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APPROVED MINUTES
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL:
Chair Tralle called the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board meeting to order at 6:30
p.m. on August 11, 2021.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved as presented.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Mr. Evenson made a MOTION to approve the July 14, 2021 meeting minutes. Motion
was supported by Mr. Wipperfurth. Motion carried 4 – 0. Mr. Reinert, Mr. Laden, and
Chair Tralle abstained.
V. OPEN MIKE
Chair Tralle declared Open Mike at 6:31 p.m.
There was no one present for Open Mike.
Mr. Laden made a MOTION to close Open Mike at 6:31 p.m. Motion was supported by
Mr. Evenson. Motion carried 6 – 0. Chair Tralle abstained.
VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Zoning Ordinance Update Discussion – PUD, Planned Unit Development,
Kendra Lindahl, Landform
DATE: August 11, 2021
TIME STARTED: 6:30 P.M.
TIME ENDED: 7:49 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Paul Tralle (Chair), Michael Root, Neil Evenson,
Isaac Wipperfurth, Nathan Vojtech, Perry Laden,
Jeff Reinert
STAFF PRESENT: Michael Grochala, Katie Larsen, Janele Waterman,
Jessica Eller
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Ms. Kendra Lindahl, Landform, presented a summary of changes to the Planned Unit
Development section of the Zoning Ordinance. Ms. Lindahl requested the Planning
& Zoning Board review changes as recommended by staff and provide feedback.
Upon receiving feedback, the draft will be revised and reviewed again in December
with the other ordinance updates.
Board Comments
In reference to section 1007.04(4), Mr. Root said the term ‘guidelines’ is not
appropriate as the verbiage implies recommendation or suggestion. He interpreted
the ordinance to be more restrictive. He suggested utilizing a phrase akin to
‘recognized standards’. In reference to section 1007.04(4)(a), Mr. Root stated the
phrase ‘presumptively appropriate’ is not accurate. He said we need to be clear the
items listed are recognized standards defined by the City. In reference to section
1007.04(6)(c)(3), Mr. Root explained since the phrase ‘open space’ can be used to
reference natural areas or developed park areas, he recommended utilizing the term
‘useable’ exclusively when referring to park areas. He requested a definition of the
term ‘useable’. Furthermore, he wanted clarification as to what parts of the open
space can be used. In reference to section 1007.04(9)(b), Mr. Root commented there
should be notification requirements regarding the neighborhood meeting, specifically
who gets notified and by what means. He asked for clarification as to what a
presented concept plan should look like at a neighborhood meeting. He
recommended making a record of the meeting in order to ensure neighborhood
concerns are addressed. He said at the neighborhood meetings, residents should be
reminded they can attend and comment at any publicly held meeting during open
mike or during the project’s public hearing. In reference to section
1007.04(9)(d)(5)(h), Mr. Root asked, in regards to the market feasibility study, who
would deem it necessary. He recommended this section should be moved to section
1007.04(2)(h) with other public benefits as recognized by the City.
In reference to section, 1007.04(9)(b), Chair Tralle stated he would like the Planning
& Zoning Board members invited to the neighborhood meetings.
In reference to section, 1007.04(1), Mr. Wipperfurth commented he prefers the
wording of the original text because it accurately addresses each point for the purpose
of the PUD. He also appreciated that the original text mentions the comprehensive
plan as it is important to emphasize the comprehensive plan could be different from
the existing zoning guidelines. In reference to section, 1007.04(9)(b), Mr.
Wipperfurth liked the idea of conducting a neighborhood meeting, but he questioned
if it would be too early in the process to have the meeting prior to the concept plan.
He said it would be more beneficial to have the meeting after the concept plan review
and before the preliminary plan review in order to give the developer more time to
assemble his/her plan. In order to hasten the construction of a park, Mr. Wipperfurth
recommended, as a requirement of the PUD, applicants submit a timeline of the
park’s construction. He commented it is unacceptable for a park’s construction to
take 1-2 years. In reference to section, 1007.04(9)(e)(5)(a), Mr. Wipperfurth asked
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given the requirement that construction should begin within one year upon approval
of a PUD Final Plan, what is the definition of construction.
Mr. Laden expressed concern with moving the rural residential PUD to the ordinance
section. He said by doing so, the City is giving up the opportunity to negotiate with
developers regarding the implementation of open space, trails, parks, etc.
In reference to section, 1007.04(9)(b), Mr. Vojtech suggested including a statement
which specifies what we will do with the information gathered from the neighborhood
meeting. In reference to section, 1007.04(2)(g), Mr. Vojtech asked for clarification as
to what would be deemed desirable to the City and who would make that decision.
In reference to section, 1007.04(2)(g), Mr. Reinert concurred with Mr. Vojtech’s
comment asking what does desirable mean and who gets to define that. In reference
to section, 1007.04(1), Mr. Reinert expressed his appreciation for the wording of the
original text since it had more definition than the edited version.
Mr. Reinert asked City staff to comment on how densities will function in relation to
PUDs.
Staff Comments
Mr. Grochala said densities were established within the 2040 Comprehensive Plan.
He explained when City staff review a PUD, they first determine how the parcel is
guided according to the comprehensive plan. If the parcel is guided low density, 1.6
to 3 units per acre is allowed. Sometimes, a PUD may be submitted for multiple,
adjacent parcels with various densities. In this instance, the City Planner would
determine the number of units allowed per density multiplied by the number of acres
and then divide that number by the total acreage which would result in the uniform
density requirement. This would then give the developer flexibility to adjust
buildings on the site.
Mr. Grochala continued if a parcel guided low density is developed using
conventional zoning, the developer has the following zoning district options R-1, R-
1X, or R-2. City staff would then guide that parcel based on its land characteristics.
If it is heavily wooded or by a lake, characteristics such as these may dictate a change
in one of the zoning districts and the developer would need to rezone the parcel and
build accordingly. The lot size for an R-1 district is 10,800 sq. ft., but with a PUD,
the City may be flexible regarding width or depth. This is why the term ‘guidelines’
was used within the PUD section of the zoning ordinance because the developer is
using the zoning ordinance requirements as a guideline to shape the PUD.
Ms. Lindahl commented there may be an alternative word for ‘guidelines’, however,
‘standards’ and ‘requirements’ would not work because as part of the PUD,
developers are typically asking for flexibility from the district standards and
requirements.
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Mr. Root suggested inserting language which states the City is open to negotiation.
Mr. Reinert surmised, when a PUD is allowed, the R-1 district requirement of 10,800
sq. ft. remains, but the requirement of 80 ft. by 135 ft. is eliminated. He questioned if
this is because the topography in the City is such that flexibility is necessary to be
able to work with developers.
Mr. Grochala stated the 10,800 sq. ft. requirement could be eliminated as well at the
City’s discretion. A PUD is a negotiated zoning district. The developer is looking
for tradeoffs and if the City likes what the developer proposes, the City can approve
it. If a conditional use permit is submitted and it meets the requirements, it is
typically approved. Therefore, removing the PUD by conditional use permit gives the
City more control. The alternative option for a developer is to follow conventional
zoning district requirements.
Mr. Reinert clarified and gave an example of a development with 25 homes guided
low density. The district requirement would be 10,800 sq. ft., but under a PUD, the
City could allow one lot to be 9,000 sq. ft. and another lot 12,000 sq. ft. if it was in
the City’s interest to save a tree.
Mr. Grochala confirmed the City may allow the developer to condense the lot
footprint in order to preserve something currently in existence.
Ms. Larsen said typically lots abutting the wetlands are smaller and lots off of the
road are enlarged.
Ms. Lindahl informed the Board the ordinance will be reviewed, a draft will be made,
and the definitions will be revised last. She asked Mike to lead the discussion
concerning the concept plan and the neighborhood meeting.
Mr. Grochala explained the purpose of the concept plan is to have the developer
create a simple sketch of the development, present it to the Board and City staff, and
receive feedback before any significant amount of funds are spent on surveying,
engineering, etc. At the PUD concept stage, possible public provisions are identified
and it is the developer’s responsibility to incorporate those items into the plan. Mr.
Grochala then explained the neighborhood meeting should occur prior to the concept
plan in order to give neighbors an opportunity to also inform the design. He agreed
with the Board it is important to know what feedback is given to the developer at each
meeting.
Ms. Lindahl stressed the importance of ensuring the neighborhood meetings do not
include City staff. Although, she said the City should be aware of the meetings and
what is discussed. Ms. Lindahl suggested assembling a policy guideline for
developers on how to conduct neighborhood meetings. She stated the meetings
would not be required, but it would be strongly encouraged.
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Mr. Laden agreed with Chair Tralle’s comment to have the Planning & Zoning Board
invited to the neighborhood meetings since they represent the citizens of Lino Lakes.
Chair Tralle commented it is important for the Board to attend the meetings simply to
observe the conversation between the developer and the neighborhood.
Mr. Grochala said we can make sure the Board members are invited to the meetings.
However, he cautioned the Board not to get drawn into the conversation.
Mr. Wipperfurth appreciated Mr. Grochala’s explanation as to why the neighborhood
meeting should occur at the concept stage and he agreed. He reiterated it would be
more difficult for a developer to make changes to the development after plans are
drawn and money is invested.
Mr. Grochala then changed the conversation to address rural cluster developments.
He said there are a few permanent rural areas in the City that will never receive City
sewer and water specifically between Rondeau Lake Rd and 35W and a corner
section in the southeast quad of the City. In these areas, the City is considering
letting owners subdivide at a higher density to allow for cluster developments;
however, 50% of the land would need to be preserved as permanent open or
agricultural space. The lot sizes would be a minimum of two acres with a community
drain field.
Mr. Laden stated it would be helpful to see a map of the permanent rural areas
throughout the City.
Ms. Larsen commented there are few permanent rural areas that will never receive
City sewer and water.
Mr. Evenson asked if the zoning ordinance specifies permanent rural.
Mr. Laden agreed and questioned if it is clear the ordinance is referencing permanent
rural areas and not areas current zoned rural.
Ms. Lindahl said it should have been more clear in the staff report, but the language
in the draft is specific. She commented a map of the permanent rural areas will be
included.
Mr. Grochala explained City staff also discussed allowing cluster developments in the
post 2040, urban reserve areas; however, the 50% open space requirement would be
temporary. He said this idea is not currently proposed as it could create unintended
consequences.
Ms. Lindahl reiterated in the permanent rural areas, the cluster developments would
maintain a 50% permanent open space. If proposed, in the urban reserve areas, open
space would be protected until municipal sewer and water arrives.
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Chair Tralle questioned if there is a cluster development in an urban reserve area and
municipal sewer arrives, would those in the development have to hook up to City
sewer.
Mr. Grochala said the cluster development would be required to connect to City
sewer.
Chair Tralle asked who would be responsible for the sewer connection cost.
Mr. Grochala explained the homeowners in the cluster development would be
responsible for the connection cost, but the cost would be mitigated since they would
also sell their open space for urban development. He reminded the Board this
concept is not currently proposed, but it is an idea the City is considering.
Mr. Grochala then addressed Mr. Laden’s concern with moving the rural residential
PUD to the subdivision ordinance section. He explained the City would not be giving
up the opportunity to negotiate with developers because 50% of the land is required to
be preserved as permanent open space per the rural residential PUD.
Chair Tralle expressed his support of the cluster developments.
Ms. Lindahl informed the Board district standards will be discussed in the months
ahead.
Chair Tralle asked if conditional use permits will be addressed.
Mr. Grochala said conditional use permits will be covered in each individual district.
Mr. Reinert inquired if the surface water management plan in relation to residential
impervious surface percentages will be discussed.
Mr. Grochala replied the surface water management plan in relation to the individual
residential districts will be addressed.
Chair Tralle questioned if outdoor storage issues would be a topic of discussion.
Ms. Larsen said outdoor storage could be addressed under the general provisions
section.
Chair Tralle explained he would like to talk about storage given the recent situation
concerning Glamos Wire. It was his understanding Glamos Wire was renting out
parking lot space to someone for the purpose of parking semis and the lot was built to
do so.
Ms. Larsen said the lot was not built for storage purposes.
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Mr. Grochala stated the lot was originally built for employee parking.
Chair Tralle went onto say he did not understand why people in residential areas are
allowed to park unhooked, utility trailers on City streets for months at a time, but
Glamos Wire is prohibited from renting out lot space to park semi-trailers.
Mr. Grochala explained the City allows outside storage per conditional use permit if it
is screened and there is a primary business on the site. The ordinance does not allow
outside storage without a principal building because it will generate the lowest tax
value on that property and it has the potential to lower the property values of
surrounding properties. Regarding residential areas, Mr. Grochala said recreational
vehicles can be parked in driveways if they are parked in accordance with the street’s
minimum setback. Also, recreational vehicles do not need to be screened. Mr.
Grochala stated if a homeowner is unable to meet any of those requirements, the
homeowner is still allowed, per an exemption in the City Code, to park recreational
vehicles on the street. However, you cannot park in the street between the hours of 2
a.m. and 6 a.m. beginning November 1st through April 1st.
B. Project Updates
Staff provided verbal updates to the Board on current City projects.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Wipperfurth made a MOTION to adjourn the meeting at 7:49 p.m. Motion was
supported by Mr. Vojtech. Motion carried 6 – 0. Chair Tralle abstained.
Respectfully submitted,
Janele Waterman, Community Development Administrative Assistant