HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-03-1994 Park Board Minutes CITY OF r,= IJJW
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WNDAY, OCTOBER 3, 1994
The City of Lino Lakes Park Board meeting was called to order at
6:33pm by Chairperson, George Lindy.
Roll Call was taken, members present: George Lindy, Sharon Lane,
Brian Bourassa, Pam Taschuk, Ken Johnson, and Joe Schmidt. Also
present were Marty Aslescm, Park, Recreation and Forestry
Coordinator, Linda Elliot, City Council Liaison, Barry Bernstein,
Recreation Program Supex-visor, and Sandie wood, Recording
Secretary. Not present was Amy Donlin,
APPROVAL OF MMTM.-• Sharon Lane made a motion to approve the
September 7, Park Poard meeting minutes and the minutes from the
September 22, Goal Setting Session meeting, Ken Johnson seconded
the imtian and they were approved with no additions or
correct ions,
OPEN M_=_-,- There was no one present to speak- under Open Mike.
REVIM.- Marshan Lake Townhomes - Mary Asleson gave an
overview of the Marshan Lakes Townhomies Development. He
explained that it is 29.9 acres with 23.9 acres above the
wetlands (buildable) development bounded by Aqua Lane to the
South, Lake Drive to the West, Marshan Lake to the East, and the
Shores of Marshan Lake to the North. There is a proposed 1.6
acre General Business zorie an the Southwest corner of this
development. The area is zones P,-4, with 18 buildings, 12
townhomes per building for a total of 216 townhane units, or 9.04
units per acre.
The Miores of Marshan Lake Park area M-2, is projected to have a
Natal park area need of 5 acres. The Shores of Marshan Lake
Development resulted in a 1.9 acre park dedication- The Shores
of Marshan Lake Town gee would add another 3-8 acres of
contiguous park acreage for a total of 5.7 acres. This satisfies
our need for park land in this area according to the
Comprehensive Park Plan.
The remaining part of Trail Segment 18 South to Aqua Lane would
be completed as part of this project as well as a trail link to
the adjoining presently dedicated land. The trail link addition
to the south creates an access to the regional park via Aqua
Lane.
Marty stated that according to the park dedication ordinance, a
development with a density of 9 or more units would need an 18%
park land dedication. Accordingly, the acreage total or cash
dedication would be for 4.30 acres. The remaining portion of the
4.3 acres or .50 acres would be based on fair market value of the
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raw land purchase. At the $16,500 minim= per acre purchase
price, the park cash dedication would be approximately $1485.
The dedication for the conrercial 1.6 acres of land would be at a
later date and subject to the commercial park land dedication
requirements.
Kirk Corson, representing Hokanson Developer, introduced himself
and said the development was zoned R-4 and would have 15 units
per acre. Kirk and Marty continied to discuss the area and
answer questior)z.
There was a questions as to what could be placed in the park.
Marty stated that a 2801 informal hallfield would fit well in
this area. There was discussion as to placing a 4-way stop at
81m Street and Lake Drive, the re-aligrEnent of Highway 49, the
impact the alignment would have on the existing development and
how it would effect the trail. Marty responded there would be no
effect on the developwnt or trail system. Tt was asked whether
the trail would cross the freeway. Marty stated that the trail
could not cross the freeway, at the present time, as the bridge
does not have pedestrian walkways. George wanted to know where
the commercial area was 'going to be. Kirk Corson pointed out
that it was going to be on the North side of Aqua Lane and Lake
Uu�ive. Kirk said the commercial area was going to be completed
la the future and stated he thought a pizza business or something
similar, that would serve the area well, wiculd be built there.
There was also discussion on a transportation trail on Lake Drive
from the new Park Building to Shirley Yaye's. Joe thought that
there was a deep gully and several single family dwellings along
the way so it would be difficult to cc�struot it there. Kirk
said he thought the road was going to be widened to a four lane
road and would have a 120, right-of-way. George stated that this
was going to be quite a dense development and we should plan
ahead for a transportation trail going South. Marty stated the
transportation trail should run on the right-of-way, all the way,
and not on Wk property.
Kirk asked Martyr about the location of the internal trail. He
asked about trail locations, in the development, and stated he
felt they were duplicating their efforts with the trails they had
to put in. Marty said that the Comprehensive Park Plan requires
that there be a trail along Aqua Lane going into the county Park_
Kirkwanted to let the board know that they did not intend to
make a board walk or put the trail in the wetland area.
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MMON: Brian Bourassa made a motion to accept the proposal as
presented with the following conditions: Have a transportation
trail along Lake Drive from the north side of the property to the
north boundary of the exception area and continuing on, on the
south side of the exception area to the south of Aqua Lane in
front of the proposed commercial area. They should construct the
transportation trail all the way through the exception area and
the trail should extend the length of Lake Drive from north to
south in the Lake Drive right-of-way. If NNDOT does not allow
constnuction of trail in right-of-way, then the trail can be
constructed in the development adjacent to the right-of-way. For
racking out the area through the exception area the, developer
will be compensated as part of their cash dedication. This trail
should be rough graded and rocked with 4 inches of rock. Our
intent is to have that trail placed inside the state right-of-
way-
Secondly, we would like the internal trail segmt extend from
Stage Coach Trail into the park system, as staked by Marty in the
field, turn north at the main body of the park and terminate at
the north property line adjacent W the platted area.
The transportation trail should also be laced alonU the southern
border of the Marshan Lake TownhoTre d=4;:nt from Lake Drive
to the connection point of the trail on the east side of Stage
Coach Trail. The trail from Lake Drive to Stage Coach Trail, on
the north side of Aqua Lane, should also be a transportation
trail, graded and rocked.
Motion was seconded by Joe Schmidt and passed unanimusly.
E22AM:
A. Regreation Cormlexl&ferendum.- Marty told the Park Board
that the wetland has been delineated and surveyed. We ]nave
received the rough draft of the delineation and it did not look
quit as had as be thought it would. He stated we should have the
final draft by October 4th or 5th, he would talk to Jeff
Schoenbauer and take it to the Rice Creek Watershed District to
find out what can and cannot be done. Marty said the next step
would be to get an appraisal and meet with the property owners to
discuss a purchase agreement, first right of refusal, or
tinancing me ism.
13. Recreation Focus Committee.-, Martyr reported that there was
good turnout for the last meetuug. ecpcomrmtittee is starting to
come up with ideas and are ]planning for spring and summer events
already. He mentioned one idea was an inline skating league.
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of a portable boarder patrol system. He is looking into the cost
of these two methods. There was discussion aj:,out the bituminous
overlay and tl� pro's and con-s to this method. (ie. ice, melt
from sun on a dark surface.) The board thou .
thought the new
ew rink at
City Hall Park might be a good location because of the new
building and because it is a heavily used park. Marty asked if
this could be researched and then report back to the Park Board
at the next meeting.
Marty also mentioned that he had met with Nick Eloff and Lisa
Gilliland and they were impressed with the -94 City Earth Day
Celebration and wanted the city to get involved in their Fall
Festival at the Wargo Nature Center- Marty would like to use the
nature center for -future programs, such as maple syruping and
orienteering.
C. Friends of the Park: Marty explained he had taken the
minutes at the last Friends of the Park meeting and he felt there
was a lot of positive things that happened at the meting. A
motion was passed that would allow city staff to expeud up to
$30/plaque for 3 recognition plaques. He also mentioned a
donation that was given by Ace Solid Waste in the amount of $670.
These monies were to be used for new neighborhood parks requests
on a cost match basis and $100 was to be used for the SNAC
PrcVram at Rice Lake Elementary Park. Marty e%plained that a
m"Lion authorizing Marty to spend up to $1000 for the Little
League irrigation project at SZmrise Park, ballfield #4,
consistent with the intent of the designated donation, and upon
approval by the Park Board had been passed.
MOTICH-- Joe Schmidt made a motian that the Park Board authorize
Marty Asleson to spend the =mey, from the Friends of the Park,
for the irrigation system and the plaque dedicated to the lAttle
League. The motion was seconded by Pam Taschuk and passed
unanimously.
George asked if scae of the neighborhood parks could request
money from the Friends of the Park as long as they had matching
funds. Marty said yes, the Friends of the Park Cormdttee is
looXing for neighborhood involvement and ways to get their funds
visible in the commurtity.
D. 1995- Goa3 Session., Marty gave an averview of the goal
setting session held an September 22, 1994. He stated that since
the Comprehensive Park Plan was approved in 1992 the Park Board
had takeTi goals and priorities and looked at new Park and
Recreation issues that have com up. Marty said it is important
that the board revisits the goals, priorities, schedules and
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funding, for the projects, each year. Marty explained that the
1995 Park Goals had been sent to the maTbers in their packets.
He said the members were asked to prioritize the goals, according
to their level of importance (0 being IOW-10 high) and
bring them to the October 3rd Park Board Meeti;�7 George asked
when these requests would go before the City Council- Marty
replied January. George stated the neighborhood projects require
months of preliminary work and neighborhood meetings before
construction can start, so he thought they should be brought
before the City Council prior to Jam)ary so eylpenditures can be
approved. At this point it was found that several members had
not coup-leted the surveys correctly, so it was decided that they
would redo them and turn them in at the end of the meeting.
Marty said staff would do a tally and get an average score for
Bch, project and put it on the agenda for the next meet Ken
suggested that after the priority list i completed
s cpleted it =ld be
discussed and a decision made on what projects city staff can
complete and what should be contracted out.
E. 0Lh&K Park andRecreation. Ekdates: Marty reported that the
Playground raising at Woods of Baldwin Lake Park went well.
There were many enthusiastic people there and as the day wore on
many more came:. He said that the timbers and pea rock have been
put down and it looks very nice. He added that the trail has
started to be graveled.
Barry reported that the recreation prograrm are going well. The
first sessions of aerobics and karate classes are filled and we
have received registrations for later prog:cams- He then talked
about volleyball program locations, He explained that the sites
are not listed in the brochure because at the time the brochure
went to press we did not have confirmed locations. He said that
the schools are very cooperative and he is pleased that we have a
gcx)d working relationship with them. Marty said that Rice Lake
Elementary school has provided the Park and Recreation Department
with a bulletin board.
Marty then discussed a Consortium City ALA Disability Focus Group
n'P-Qting that is scheduled for October 6, They are getting
together to discuss bow they can form a Consortium Recreation
Accessibility to Recreation Program Group. He added that
District 11, Centennial Conrunity School, Shoreview, Spring Lake
Park, Blaine, Circle Pines and Lexington as well as other cities
are interested in cost sharing. Bridging and networking is being
&>ne now been Roseville and New Brighton, Hopkins and
Minnetonka as well as other cities.
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F. Shoreview Building: Marty said he had talked to Jerry Hafman
and he informed him that the building wouad not be available to
the Park Department this fall- They are not going to he building
their new building this fall so they will need to use it this
winter. Marty also said he had talked to John LaC�sse and he
will do a site plan for the board to look at. George said we
should be proactive in planning this so when the building becomeo
available we are ready to put it together. He thought we should
also plan ahead so if a bituwdxxjuz mat is going to be laid for
in-line skating it can also be done.
OLD BUS
There was no old business.
NW Buspm:
A. Volunteer_y&goc.Wit gA and Barry had
_ Marty said that he
discussed this issue and they feel it would be nice if the Park
Board could give recognition to volunteers. One group that came
to mind was Jean Briggs arid the Girl Scaut Troop that had
fulfilled their Adopt--.A,-Park contract at Lino Park. They have
cleaned up the park twice, planted flowers, and watched the park
for tbings: that were wrong and called him to let him know. Marty
said it would be nice if the girl scouts were invited to a Park
Board meeting and given individual certificates of appreciation
or a group plaque. He also suggested the media be invited to the
meeting so they could take pictures. Other people or groups that
can. be recognized are volunteer coaches, special events
volunteers, and neighborhood groups. George stated that if
Barry, Marty or anyone else sees something that a group or
individual does, that is extraordinary and merits attention,
they recognize and thank them. Recognition should be done rigtt
away and not pit off.
RECCWWMTI0X-. Ken Johnson made a recommendation that a
Certificate of Appreciation from the City of Lino Lakes, with the
mayor's signature, be given to Jean Briggs Girl Scout Troop at
the next Park Board meeting.
R. Trail Dedication Ordinance:
Marty explained the reason he started thinking about this was
because of the amount of dollars we spend to build trails. He
said the money the City sperxis, to build trails, could be used
for purchasa-ng playground equipment or provide other services and
facilities. He stated the purpose of this proposal is to amend
the present trail ordinance to include the provision requiring
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developers to completely finish all dedicated trails including
the asphalt surfaces. He explained that he is looking at the
City of Lakeville's trail dedication plan as a model. George
stated we have to substantiate a change in the ordinance. Marty
said it must be fair and equitable and how do you, as a Park
Board, just-ity what is being done and the need- we have to come
up with a figure and reflect that back on the total trail needs
through the year 2010. Brian said the methodology of taking the
overall cost of the whole system and dividing it equally between
all usersis being used all over with capitol improvements for
sewer, for water, etc, George said the developer is still
responsible for providing the land as indicated by the
Comprehensive Park Plan, but we as a City would pay for the
development and, firdshing of these trails from the determined
dedication fee- Marty said what we need to tie together is the
cost of the trails and the relationship to projected housing
density so a dollar figure can be reached. There wvas also
discussion on boardwalk cost per foot and trail cost per foot.
This will also have to he factored into the new dedicated trail.
fee.
RECOMMENDATION: George recommended that we pursue a new trail
dedication ordinance and be willing to spend mxiey on engineering
fees to evaluate cost of trail system and project an average
cost per foot and average cost per building lot.
Brian said that most of the necessary work has been completed.
We already have the lengths of all the trails setup and Michael
Krech, City of Lino Lakes Engineering Tech, is working on
developing the projections for the r&uW:)er of lots. It should not
take much mare time to couplete this.
Before adjourning Marty said that Amy Donlin had called him with
a couple of issues. Curie was a trail issue off Woodridge Lane
which enters onto the Max7yAnn McDugal property. MaryAnn is
concerned about cars going onto her property. Marty explained
that the trail is posted but barricades are going to be placed at
the end to help prevent this from bappening.
The other issue was expansion of parks an private property- He
mentioned that when he and George met with the people in the
Braxvlywood area future park expansion was discussed. die said
that wrong information had gotten to property owners in the
southern part of the city and the people were upset with what
they bad heard. Amy feels property owners should be notified and
in-formed as to what is anticipated to happen in their area.
Brianasked if the property owners had been given the opportunity
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to cane to City Hall when the develo disused.Vmant was being dissed.
Marty responded. yes, there were public hearings. George
con'nented that these people have been contacted and they have
voiced their opinions and they did not want to sell their
Property becauBe they wanted to keep them as hobby farms. He
continued by saying it had been agreed that we would not attain
their property through eminent. domain. George said this should
be addressed at the park development level and in this case the
neighborhood discussion level.
N-MM The next meeting is scheduled for November 7,
1994, 6,30pm, at City Hall.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:37pm,