HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-07-1994 Park Board Minutes CITY OF LW LAKES
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MCMAY, NOV930M 7, 1994
The City of Lim Lakes Park Board was called to order at 6:32pm
by George Lindy, Chair.
Roll Call was taken, members present were George Lindy, Sharon
Lane, Brian Bourassa, Pam Taschuk, Ken Johnson, Joe Schmidt and
Amy Donlin. Also present were Marty Asleson, Park, Recreation
and Forestry CbOrdinator, Barry Bernstein, Recreation Program
Supervisor and Sandie Wood, Recording Secretaxy.
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 3. 1994 XUU=.- There was discussion as to
the motion that Brian Bourassa made on Page 3, C:oncept Review,
Mrshan, Lake Tor nhomes- The motion should be changed and read as
follows:
"NDTION: Brian Bourassa made a Tmtion to accept the proposal as
presented. withthe following conditions.- Have a transportation
trail along Lake Drive from the north side of the property to the
north boundary of the excepticn area and continuing on, on the
south side of the exception area to the south of Aqua Lane in
front of the proposed commercial area. They should construct the
transportation trail all the way through the exception area and
the trail should extend the length of Lake Drive from north to
south in the Lake Drive night-of-way, if r-S= does not allow
construction of trail to right-of-way, then the trail can be
constructed in the development adjacent to the right-of-way. Por
rocking out the area through the exception area the developer
will be compensated as part of their casli dedication. This trail
should be rough graded and rocked with 4 inches of mock. Our
intent is to have that trail placed inside the state right-of-
way. " Ken Johnson made a motion, seconded by Sharon Lane, to
approve the October 3 Park Board minutes as corrected. Minutes
were approved.
QP-M MP;E.- There was no one present to speak under OPEM K1YJZ
REVIM: Clearwater Creek Development - Marty introduced
Tony Emmerich, developer of Clearwater Creek and gave back-ground
information on this development. Clearwater Creek is a new area
of consideration on the cast side of Interstate Highway 35E,
bounded on the north side by Clearwater Creek, can. the east side
by 24th Avenue South, and extendinq down to 64th Street an the
south side.
This will be a multi-phased project that will eventually produce
about 450 homes with varying densities in the, different phases.
The average density is between 1.2 to 1.5 houses per acre.
Although the board is recommending a dedication for only Phase I
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and TI at this time, the development as a whole must be
considered for overall park trail needs, Phasing will occur as
it relates to the cities direction for controlled development.
Marty included a number of enclosures that were relevant to the
consideration of this area for park and trail dedication. Figure
6.3 from the Comprehensive Plan depicts the original park and.
trail needs from a planning stand point. The N-15 park area is a
10.0 acre site that is centrally located within this service
area.. The need to centrally locate this park area arises from
the generally accepted service radiuses of neighborhood park
areas to residents that would use the facilit There is usually
a service radius of about 1/2 mile. The development extends
beyoad the original boundaries as depicted in figure 6.3. The
north/south orientation extends for approximately 1-5 miles.
There is a continuing concern for balancing land use issues in
relation to environmental concerns such as vietlands. For this
reason the developer has proposed a larger park area on the north
side of the development, with strategically placed mini parks
located to the south with trail linkages.
Marty stated that he and Jeff Schoenbauer reviewed the plan and
this concept should adequately serve the needs for the overall
development scheme. A copy of the developers proposal and
breakout of the land areas and proposed park dedication were
included in the members packets.
Marty stated for Phase I and II, we would take the land
dedication and any additional amount owed in caah. We would then
release this cash as needed as additional land is dedicated.
The trail corridor adequately accomplishes the goals of the
Comprehensive plan- Marty pointed out that all the trail
corridorswere indicated by the blue lines on the color'coded
maps.
Marty asked the board to refer to the color coded maps and the
larger concept for Phase I and IT. For.Phase I and IT the board
should consider the acceptance of a penhizula of land on the east
side of the development, and a triangular piece of land on the
we-stom side. This portion has the trail passing through it.
Marty pointed out the eastern consideration has an exception
passing through it . The developer has indicated that he would
negotiate a realiq=nent with the property owner. This is
important from a design, privacy, and safety consideration.
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Me contlilued by saying if the board looked at this concept in an
overall -vision, and park acreage need concern, the larger area on
the north side of the development is about 19 or 20 acres giving
this area a large open space for recreation, Since the developer
does not control this land yet, he has indicated that he would
write into the agreement assurances of a land dedication in an
area that he does now own in the area indicated as Phase V, and
highlighted by the green cross-hatch in Exhibit D of the concept
plan. This area would be a 10 acre parcel in size. Marty said
this was obviously oat the best scenario for anyone-
Marty izicluded a copy of the pla=iing report for the public
hearamg concerning Clearwater Creek. The report basically covers
Phases I and IT as it refers to park dedication- He noted that
the proposed dedication is for 36.13 acres. This figure reflects
park acreage including wetlands. Thus, this figure would now be
different_
Heasked the members to refer to the break-out sheet of .and
percentages and formal proposal cover page submitted by the
developer. For Phase 1, the developable upland area is 77.2
acres. The 10 percent park land dedication would equal 7.7
acres, in an area of 153 lots zoned R-1 (single faTnily) with a
density of 9 lots per acre for Phase 1, and 2.4 lots per acre
for Phase IT. The developer has indicated in his cover letter
that he wishes to meet park dedication on a per phase basis using
a system of banking and credits. Should the land dedication of
one of the phases -fall below the park dedication requirements of
the phase being considered, the developer would submit a cash
dedication to be released upon further dedication.
Marty continued by saying the overall proposed parr dedication of
the developer exceeds the land dedication requirements of the
project as a whole. Referring to the break-out sheet, the total
buildable upland of the project is 195.8 acres, with a total land
dedication of 40.6 acres. The large area to the north is the
largest share of this, totaling 24.5 acres, This area is
considered floodplain, however, city code and our surface water
management plan allows for Uie use and development of floodplain
as park. In overall dedication, the developer wishes to exceed
his required park dedication needs.
Marty reconiiended the Park Board accept the park dedicaticn for
Phases I and :[I land and trails based on the overall concerns for
this development. The recomTendation includes banking, credits,
and cash assurances. Further should the land area to the north
not be developed, the developer would give written assurances of
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a 10 acre site in the area shown as Phase V. The land to the
east should not have the property line ru=Ang thxr-ugh it (the
exception area) and a trail access to the area is needed, but not
shown on the sketch plan,
Tony introduced himself and pointed out the areas that he did and
did not control. He showed the two areas where there was major
objection to the development and an exception area. that may or
may not be sold or developed by the owner- George asked if Tony
would consider a loop trail system. He felt it may help get
people from one end of the development to the other or to loop
them through as a long walking trail. Tony said that they would
take a look at that idea.
Ar y voiced her concern about this development. She stated that
this development was goirul to be confined and wanted to see the
people in the area have enough recreation in their neighborhoods
to keep them happy. Tony replied that if you look at the layout
of the development, you will see that there is plenty of open
space in the development.
Amy asked it they had done a study on the amount of children that
would be ente School District #624 from this development.
Tony said he Wd contacted the school district and they sent a
letter saying they approach growth as an opportunity and grow
with it. He said the letter was on file with the Planning
Department.
There was other discussion on the development. some question
asked were whether the developer could provide playground
equipment, the estimated populatim and cost of homes in Phase
III and TV, the length of time it will take to complete the whole
prof t, the nwnber of realtors that will be selling the homes,
zonlzg in the area, the trees in the development, underground
utilities and other questions and concerns about the trail
system. Ken also asked what could be done with a 3-4 acre
parcel. Marty and Tony replied there was enough room for a
ballfield if that was what the board wanted to put there.
It was decided even though the board has to look at the
develcpment as a whole, the board should make its recommendation
on Phase I and 11.
Sharon said the trail system in Phase I and II should be
discussed. Marty said he would eventually like to see the trail
go all the way to Hugo. He said what we were trying to do with
the lineal trail corridor concept is to try and hug the wetlands
and use the natural area as much as possible to make it a
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recreational experience and create an edge effect. Ken asked if
the trail would be sufficientl off the roadway. Tony responded
yes. George asked if the tram that runs along Cedar Street,
towards the northern end of the development, was a separate trail
not assurning road right of way. Tony said it would determine
what was needed at that time and would not have a major affect.
George asked if the trail off Cedar Street would be a
transportation trail and where would it go on Street A when it
turns. Tony said it would be off the street area. There was
further discussion on the trail system before the nx�tian was
ma6 .
Ken asked if Tony had to go back through all the board to do
Phase III - V. Tony said yes he would.
NOTICN: Sharon Lane made a motion to approve park dedication and
accept park land as noted in use I and II. Should the, land to
the north not be developed, (Phase 111-Phase TV) , the developer
will give written assurance of a 10 acre site in the area shown
as Phase V. Establish a system of land banking and cash
assurance to balance park dedication requirements. Trail as
noted on the west side of the development with conti:ngenoy trail
link, between lots -q and 10 Street G on a temporary trail
easement, until the Kane property to the south, is developed.
Trail link from Street L to Fast park parcel as rioted. Motion
was seconded by Joe Schmidt and passed unanimously.
DMATES AND OLD BUSMW:
A. Recreation C t lex/Refergndum:. Marty included a copy of the
finished wetland delineation and a cory of the proposed
recreation CoWlex A-3 plan in the m6lbers packets. He informed
the board that the delineation information along with a letter of
intent and background information had been forwarded to the Rice
Creek watershed District. He has not heard back from them.
Marty also said he received a call from a resident that had about
ten concerns with this issue. He asked her to send him a letter
of her concerns and he, would address them with her. It necessary
he would invite her to come to the next Park Board av--etiriq.
George asked if we were going to have an ap
praisal done after we
hear back from -the Rice Creek Watershed District. Marty said if
it looks hopeful we should go ahead with the appraisal.
R. aCreat ion—Foaus Ccninitte�-,. Parry gave an overview of the
Recreation Focus Comdttee and what took place at the last
meeting- He said the cormnittee focused on instruction./how to
activities, le: How to do lawn care, flowers, orienteering.
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They also discussed the brochure and members of the ccaadttee
recamiended the brochure be included in the city newsletter.
Tbis is going to be done in the next city newsletter. Barry
explained the format that was going to be used in placing our
brochure in this dociznent. There was also discussion on selling
advertising in the brochures. Barry said he had contacted other
park and recreation departments to see what they did about
advertising- He went over the pros and cons of this subject.
'n-iere would not be advertising in the first issue of the
bracbure/newsletter. It will have to be addressed for the next:
issue.
C. Friends of tht-Rark. Joe discussed the last meeting of the
Friends of the Park Cb=dttee_ He said the next thing the
Friends of the Park is going to be focusing on is do-nations and
grant criteria. They are working with Rice Lake Elementary
School because a donator said they would give money if part of it
was used at the school. Joe said they were working on a logo for
t-shirts- Marty reported that he and Diane Jensen met with
Moline Concrete and they are interested in starting a business
arm of Friends of the Park, They will go around to other
businesses and try to get them involved with this conmittee.
Moline is going to donate 12 concrete picnic tables to the City.
Moline is also going to go to their next board meeting and
discuss the hockey rink and building at City Hall Park. Marty
indicated that criteria letters had been sent out to the
neighborhood contacts and hoped to hear back from some of them in
the near future-
D. 1995 Goal Session Rankings: Marty explained that he took the
figures, totalled them and divided by 7 (the number of members)
to get an average and rated them 1-10 in
priority. George said
he will write a letter for the council work session explaining
these are the Park Board goals for 1995 and discuss what was
accomplished in 1994. Ken asked how close the dollar figures are
to what it is actually going to cost to do the projects. He was
wondering if we had to contract the work out if the dollar
figures would be close. Marty said he would have to prioritize
and then would deal with whether it had to be contracted or done
by City crews. He said that inspection of the parks on a regular
basis is goiiig to have to be done. Sharon indicated that she
would be interested in working with a neighborhood group because
she is new on the board a-ad not on any committees.
E. Shoreview Building Hbghg5r Rink: Marty passed out a cad
drawing of the possible layout of the rink and building at city
Hall Park. George indicated that location #1 was the best uay to
go He also thought it was a reasonable use of furx3z to move the
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pea rock vs the cost to put in a new road, parking lot etc. He
asked what the cost would be to move the existing playground.
Marty thought it would cost approximately $1,000-$2,000. Barry
said the had been in contact with the hockey association and they
are willing to help out with the labor for this project. George
stated that Marty should wait a month to see what Moline was
willing to do to help out. Marty said he would ask the Friends
of the Pik to help out. too.
F. Border PatralZInline Skatigg Rink: Marty said that Barry had
gotten a video tape on border patrol if anyone was interested in
watching it after the meting. He and Barry indicated it would
cost approximately $4500 to purchase it. Barry went on to
describe the system and size. Marty said tbexe was a possibility
of selling advextising space. The members discussed the pros and
cons with border patrol vs a permanent bituminous surface in a
hockey rink. It was decided they would prefer using a bituminous
surface rink because we could use the existing hockey lights and
did not have to move or try to keep track of where the system
was. Marty said he had talked to people about the life
expectancy of the bituminous surface and maintenance. He
estimated it would cost $4500 to $5500 for the mat. Members
asked Marty to get quotes on the vat so they had an idea of what
they were looking at. Pam said if inline skating became a
passing fad the rinks could be used as basketball courts.
G. Other LTpdates/Md Business:. Marty said he was going to be
meeting with the police park patrol to discuss park rules and
regulations and he would give them our inspection forms and ask
if they could be filled out if they saw anything in the parks.
Members had questions about the park patrol. Barry suggested
they contact Police Chief Dave Pecchia to get their questions
answered. Maxty also mentioned that Jeanne Keenow has completed
her CPTED training.
Marty told the Park Board that all the park trails have been
signed with standard signs designating them as city trails.
Woods of Baldwin Lake - Marty reported that the employees were
now working on seeding the park. All the playground equipment is
done and the grills have been placed. The fencing has not been
completed but he hopes to have it completed yet this fall.
Ken asked abcA;.t a more equitable trail ordiriance, Marty said
Michael Krech is working an a figure for projected housing
through the year 2010 so he can relate trail distances with
tuture housing. Mart said the new ordinance hinges on the
Mayors 2020 vision an the wetlands ixi Lim Lakes. It will take
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him awhile to finish a new trail ordinance.
Joe then asked about the volunteer recogn-ition award for Jean
Briggs Girl Scout Troop 834. He reported that they are going to
come to the December 5 meeting and they would receive a plaque,
NEW EMPM9:
A. Eagle SccautCourt of Honor/lhc Mgs Jen
sen: George passed
around the invitation that the Board had received from Tbomas
Jensen, Brian and Marty said they would probably be attending
the ceremony. Marty hoped that others would also be going
because this is a biq accomplishffLent in this young mans life.
B. Qthtx_ New Business.-. Marty discussed Board Members terms and
mentioned that Brian would be attending his last meeting next
month and told Sharon that she should write a letter of intent to
Dan Tesch. George stated that he had been contacted by a
resident that wanted to know what the procedure was to become- a
Park Board member. Marty said people could send their letters to
him or to Dan Tesch.
IV-= The next meeting is scheduled for December 5,
1994, 6:30pm, at City Hall
ADJOURNNWiT: Pam made a motion, seconded by Sharon to adjourn
the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 9:33pm.