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Home My WebLink About10/20/1971 P&Z MinutesThe regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 8 :01 P.M. by Mr. McLean. All members were present with the exception of Mr. Kelling, who was hospitalized. The following corrections were made to the September 15th minutes: 1, Page 2, peragranh 3, lire 5, the word "coed" is mispe; .led. 2, Page 2, peregi ph 4, line 1, delete the word "he ". 3. Page 3, paregraph 1, line 11, "would this" should be inverted 10 "this would." 4. Pege 3, pabcg aph , line 12, after words x!; difficulty. ", add "with this suggestion„" Mr, Hill moved t3 accept the minutes of the September 15th meeting, except for the deviations, Seconded by Mr. Jester. Carried unanimously. There wes one application for sign permit by Naegele Outdoor Adv. Co., to be considered, #114 was for an illuminated sign to be placed on Mr. L Allier's prcpeity at the corners of 35E and 80th St, This would be with four surfaces, 300 in ft, each, MIr, Gotwald had approved it for location. Mr. Jester moved it be approved, seconded by Mr, Hill. Carried unanimously. Ordinence #53 was refered to by Mr, Locher as it pertains to our situation re- garding using plastic pipe in plumbing, He stated that the State preempts the Code. We have to either accept it or put it to a test in the Supreme Court, Mr. Locher talked with the attorney of St Paul. Be didn't know if they were going to contest it or not. Villages have no rights to administer their own situations, they can only levy fees, Mr, Jester reported that the Governor has appointed a 19 member committee to go over the new plumbing and heating code and they should be reporting beck in 60 days. Mr Jester moved to table this issue for 60 days until results of the committee investigating this st'te cede are made public. Seconded by Mr. Karth, Carried unanimously. It wes recommended that this be called up again in two months in order to check the status, Mr. Rehbein asked to speak as an abstaining member. He presented a request for variance on a parcel of land less than 2 1/2 acres. He has obtained e building permit for a model home using an entire 40 acre section as a legal description; he wished to get a variance to put up another model hone, Mr. Van Housen has checked over all the plans. He will do his own sewer and street construction and will put up a bond for the finished streets. He will be re- taining ownership and ultimately plot it as lot 5, Mr. Karth moved to re-- commend to the Council that they grant Glenn Rehbein a variance for the construction of a model home on proposed lot 5, Block 2, Glenrae Estates. Seconded by Mr. Hill. Carried unanimously. Mr. Rehbein asked if there was any set system for naming streets. He was told it is open as long as there is no duplication. Mr. Jandric had an extensive list. It was also suggested that the County Surveyor might have a proposed system. Mr. McLean had received a letter, dated August 31, 1971, from R. A. Matthews, of Roseville. Be asked about the possibility of raising game fish in ponds on the East shore of Lake Peltier. He wondered if it conflicted with planning 2 10/20/71 or zonning in that area. Members felt that two things would have a bearing. It would be a commercial operation in a residential area and also the St. Paul Waterworks might be involved. It was recommended that this be referred to the Council as to exact location, etc., and then they can refer it to the Environ- mental Quality group or whoever they see fit, A Variance was applied for by Marvin Hamacher and Marvin LeTendre, on Lot #7 of Golden's Rice Lake Terrace, 6935 Lake Drive. The zoning code stipulates setbacks along thoroughfares of 40 feet. A Mr. Richard Olson owns a home situated on Lot #5, with a setback of 18 feet, built before the present code. If they were to comply with the 40 feet limit; it would be necessary for them to fill in a swampy area behind them. They est:t.mate it would amount to ex- penses of maybe $8,000 to $10,000. They indicated they had a verbal building permit with W. Dupre. He indicated to them that with commercial property they could build up to the line. They would like to get started as soon as possible since it could snow anytime. The building has already been ordered and is waiting to be set up. They maintain drainage is no problem since the building would sit two feet higher than the road grade. They were informed they should have submitted 10 sets of plans 10 days ahead. They indicated they already have the state permit and its culverted in already. The members were sympathetic as to the time element involved and the fact that they had not been properly informed by a village official. It was recommended that if they got a topographical survey and all the necessary paper work taken care of they might submit it to the Council at their next meeting. Mr. Rehbein moved to recommend to the Council that they allow this variance of an 18 feet set back equal with houses on the north side, at 6935 Lake Drive. Seconded by Mr. Jectex Carried unanimously. Mr. Karth moved to recommend to the Council that Skyline Auto Body proposed building be approved for issuance of building permit based on the applicants ability to adhere to the zoning codes that apply, evidenced by Mr. Van Housen and the Village Engineer. Changes being made with the Chairman of P&Z. Seconded by Mr. Jester, Carried unanimously. The two men were advised to have 5 copies made to give to the Clerk for the Councilman. Mr. Tressler stepped. forward and asked for a Variance consideration on his property on Rustic Lane in Lakeview. There are two occupied dwellings :0 feet apart. He stated his daughter was married and her husband going to school. He rented them a structure, 14 ft. x 20 ft, (280 sq. ft.) that he fixed up for them. He felt this was a hardship case. It was stated that mobile homes have been allowed several times in the past under hardship cases. These were elderIT terminal cases. Mr. Tressler stated he brought the building in some time age, fixed it up, installed plumbing & a separate septic tank. Mr. Dupre issued him a building permit, but nothing was said about a plumbing permit. He wasn't informed he needed one. He is asking for a 3 year permit for the yonxg people to live there until he is through with school. He was told that the code endeavors to maintain the size of homes in the Village. We must set a precedent. Although he has sufficient land in total - over 3 acres - the 50 feet between buildings and the size of the second struc- ture are just inadequate. Also, there is only one access. W. Rehbein related a time 8 -9 years ago when 3 children burned in a too -small garage home in Lexington, because they couldn't get in to get them out. Mr. Tressler stated this has a big 60 x 60 in. front window so this wouldn't be a problem. He was informed that trailers can be moved off, but this is a permanent structure. It is necessary to be progressive and look ahead. If it is a hardship they 3 10/20/71 would have to work something out between them. For their own welfare if just wouldn't be safe, Mr. Karth moved to recommend to the Council that they deny this request for Variance for construction and placement of a 280 sq. ft. structure for habitation. Seconded by Mr. Jester. Carried unanimously. Donald and David Erickson wished some advice as to what to do about a roadway problem on Baldwin Lake Road. Donald Erickson owns 28 acres along Baldwin Lake Road, where the proposed state road is coming through. He would like to give his son, David, an approximately 1 acre on which to build a home. The Roadway belongs to the County, it is filed on record, but the county claims no delivery of deed. They were informed they would need a Variance on that parcel of land since it is less than 2 1/2 acres on a dedicated road. Also, if the Village has been maintaining Baldwin Road for 6 years up to Town Road, it is a dedicated road. They were told to have the surveyor get a legal description of the land and then Mr. Locher will supply them with an affidavit as to the roadway. It was also suggested they get a Village Building Code before proceeding with the house. Mr. Jester moved to adjourn at 9:45 P.M., seconded by Mr. Hill. Carried unanimously. Submitted by Joan Heath)