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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01/19/1972 P&Z MinutesThe regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 8:00 P.M., January 19, 1972, by Mr. McLean. All members were present, with the exception of Mr. Ted Winieeki, who had been in an accident. Mr. Hill moved to accept the minutes of the December 15th meeting as submitted. Seconded by Mr. Kelling. Carried unanimously. The first matter of business was to elect a Chairman and Vice Chairman for the commission. Mr. Kelling moved to have Mr. McLean serve as Chairman of P&Z for the 1'72 period. Seconded by Mr. Karth. Carried unanimously. Mr. Karth moved to have Mr. Kelling serve as Vice Chairman for the 1972 period. Seconded by Mr. Nadeau. Carried unanimously. New members were introduced. They are Mr. James Shearen, Mr. Pete Nadeau, Mr. Ted Winieeki, not present, and new laison member, Mr. Don Marier. Skelly Oil was requesting a height variance to the sign ordinance, but it was laid over as Mr. Hedberg hadn't arrived yet. Mr. David Anderson, Jr., requested a variance to Ordinance No. 21A. The fee was paid. It is less than 2 and 1/2 acres on a dedicated road. Mr. Anderson said he is going to sell his home this spring, but doesn't want to sell all the property, he wants to save one lot. Glenn Hehbein is going to put a road in through to his Shenandoah project along the west side, so a 60 foot strip was left stipulated as Lot A. Inasmuch as it is not a buildable strip, the transaction with Glenn is brought into this. Mr. Anderson said he will deed this land over to Glenn soon. The purchase agreement is already made on land Glenn bought from him behind this average. There was general discussion as to the possibilities available. One was that they could give him a variance en the whole parcel and then he could come back later and get another variance for the 60' strip. Mr. Anderson preferred not to have it done this way. Mr. Kelling moved to approve the variance for Lot A and B with the stipulation that Lot A either be deeded over for road purposes or deeded back to Lot B. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Carried unanimously. Mr. Locher advised he had further information about the new state sign code. Any permits for signs issued after the date of the state code must be on industrical or commercial property. Mr. Locher had talked to Mr. Hoohmeyer, Naegle Outdoor Advertising, and he feels it is good. They won't lease property unless it is properly zoned and the land owner would be responsible for doing it.. In an ideal situation, no survey being necessary, the cost for rezoning would approach $200.00. If a survey were necessary it could be $1,000 to $1,500 easily. Nothing else affects our code. This would just deal with freeways 35W and E in our village. The effective date of the state sign code was May 22, 1971. Nothing erected prior to that is liable, except if the sign were to blow over or burn down, then it would have to be rezoned. Mr. Locher noted all the regulations aren't out as yet. It was recommended to the Council that the Clerk go ahead and issue renewals on all existing permits. It was also recommended that the Council should have a list of the signs granted since May 22, 1971. Some action will have to be taken to notify these people of the problem. 2 1/19/72 Mr. Locher advised it would not be necessary to alter our ordinance. The state code reempts it. He did suggest there are some items that beer checking. It was advised that the Clerk make copies of this code available to the Council, Planner, Engineer and P&Z members and herself. 8:30 continued Hearing on Forrest Tagg rezoning request. The affidavits of Publication and Affidavits of Mailing of Notices to owners of parcels within 300 feet are on file. This hearing was begun at the December meeting of P&Z. The Council laid it over to the January 24th meeting. On Jan. 18, 1972, the Clerk received a call from Mrs. Tagg stating they wouldn4t be here for the P&Z meeting this Jan. 19th, but they wanted to be put on for Feb. Mr. McLean read a letter from Mr. Van Housen, dated January 11, 1972, in which he outlined that the least of Mr. Tagg's problems were his ten plans not being submitted on time. He totally failed to read or comply with the original 21Rt•C Ordinance and now Section 5.03. Mr. Van Housen's general comment was: "A request for rezoning on the total parcel of land and only a portion of it was drawn end submitted. The most valuable corner in the Village - put together in a very unsatisfactory and detrimental manner for the village.' Mr. Gvtwald stated that Mr. Tagg's biggest error is that he just hadn't identified everything that had to be done. Mr. Tagg had informed him that he was getting things put together now. Mr. Kelling moved to lay this rezoning matter over until next month. Seconded by Mr. Karth. Carried unanimously. 411 Den Waalen, U.S. Lakes Development Co., presented the revised landscaping plan for Chomonix South, showing the additional parking in red. This additional adjacent parking area wasn't shown on the last submitted plat. Sec. 101 states there must be two spaces per driveway - one of which must be enclosed. The concern of Mr. Merier was that this left no visitor parking except on the street. This could be a real hazard to the people in the area. Mr. Hill questioned if this kind of additional space could be made mandatory in our code. Others agreed it would be good. Mr. Karth moved to recommend that this be accepted as presented for additional parking. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Carried unanimously. A soil capabilities map was presented by Mr. Al Fisher, District Conserva- tionist, Anoka Soil and Water Conservation District. These maps are air photos, the one he showed being 9 field sheets, 1 inch equalling 1,000 feet. He indicated soil samples are taken quite often. Soil capabilities were used in farming most frequently in the past. They can be used to interpret land for urban use. This could foresee some problems that might come up, such as sewer drainage and foundation problems. Mr. Fisher said the map the Metro uses was taken in 1916 and there are only 4 kinds of soil dileniated. The County now uses 50 -60. Even the areas marked as severe limitation as far as building is concerned could be overcome by really working it out, but you must know the soil types and limitations so as to do it properly. The overlay shows major expressways orzone numbers so you can identify what you're looking at. The cost of a map such as this would be $125.00 and $25.00 extra with colors. The planner book is $50.00. 1/19/72 Mr. Gotwald says he has no access to this type of map and it would be a big aid to the P&Z Board. M. Van Housen stated they have access through the Metro Council. Mr. McLean suggested that the members be thinking about any items they might like to consider as targets for this new year. Lest year it was the zoning code. This year he felt it should be the comprehensive plan. He felt it should be the number one target during the first half of the year. Another target should be the building code as we get information available from the attorney. Mr, Van Housen presented his report. He showed the low air maps of the Village. He stated that the big job completed last ye €r was Ordinance 56. It gave them a basis from which to work. Be stated that 1/3 of the Village is ii. water prohl =*s or related problems. There are 23;000 total acres, 4,620 of wh_.ch are park land. This runs concurrent with Anoka County4s report - they were only abo 't 3.00 &ores apart. 2400 acres are water of this 4620. The state demands a public hearing at both P&Z and Council levels for zoning map. H:s advised that to be realistic we would have to think in tezzus of 4 or 5 hearings, es there is bound to be opposition. Mr. Van Housen would like for the Council and =tubers of P&Z to drive through the Village one afternoon and look et why these suggestions are being made. Thera is an existing zoned map - it is only sparsley zoned. Commercial and residential were the only zoning. He felt to wait will only make more trouble. The comprehensive plan Mr. Van Housen figured could now be entirely completed for up to $1,000. He originally stated about $3500, and about $2000 has already been spent. He indicated he just deals with zoning and doesn't have anything to do with sewer, building, etc. Mr. Kelling noted much of the problem over the land designated as Park Land is a matter of defining our words. This land is more just conservation or preservation and natural resource, as opposed ts a real park land with motorized vehicles, picnic tables, etc., although certain areas could be built up by the Village for these purposes. Mr. Van Housen stated all infor- mation should be made available for anyone to see, it should be right out in the open to anyone. Mr. Gotwald presented his report. He indicated that the highway ordinance might be brought up and updated. Concrete curbs and driveways should be considered. He showed the water study map. In 1963 he made the preliminary sewer report. He indicated people should be made aware that the area just north of Centennial school does have sewer available IF the people want it. He suggested that the Detention Center could be a real pollution problem in the future and if so it should be fairly easy to get a government grant to put the 42" line up 4th Street. The Village would be responsible for this. Ix. Gotwald said he would prepare a water study wall map for the P&Z. He has nap showing where all signs are situated in the Village and also one showing the thoroughfare plan. Mr. Marier had some suggestions to present as recommended by the Council. 1.) That we consider the state building code in 1972. 2.) It was felt our single dwelling size is inadequate as stated in the code. 3.) what is a farm 4 1/19/72 or farm property - we should probably set a minimum. 4.) Plumbing inspection fees are $7.00 a visit. $15.00 was an arbitrary figure recommended. The Council would like a recommendation as to some increase from P&Z. 5.) Must go through existing codes and up date them. Mr. Karth mentioned the building constructed by Bob Wilson on Highway 49 next to Dick Olsons. He was informed that the Chief of Police, per the Council's request, was going to check into this matter of his not having a building permit, and what he is doing there. We will get back at this after the Chief's inspection. Mr. Karth also recalled that they had granted Ken Rehbein one year to start construction on a set of apartment buildings at Highway 23 (Old Highway 8) and Main Street. The agreement was that if he didn't do anything for one year he would have to resubmit plans. Nothing has been done as yet and it should be looked into. Mr. McLean stated he had seen an advertisement in the paper by the Riding Stable on Birch Street, indicating snowmobiles for rent. There are signs on either side of the stable which state they are open 24 hours. It was recommended that the Council look into this. Would they need a special use permit for this operation? Mr. Kelling moved to adjourn at 10 :33 P.M., Seconded by Mr. Hill. Carried unanimously.