HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/16/1972 P&Z MinutesThe regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at
8 P.M. on February 16, 1972, by Chairmen, John McLean. All members were pre*
sent with the exception of Mr. Nadeau, who was ill.
One correction is to be made on the January 19 minutes. Page 3, paragraph 6,
line 2, omit the word "just ". Minutes were accepted es submitted with the
above change, by Mr. Kurth. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Carried unanimously.
8 :30 Hearing, Forrest Tagg, for rezoning. The Deputy -Clerk spoke to Mr. Tagg
on February 8th and he requested his hearing be postponed until the March
meeting. He stated he wasn't quite prepared. Mr. Kelling moved that we post-
pone this hearing until March, and then if he doesn't appear, that we have an
indefinite postponement. Seconded by Mr. Hill. Carried unanimously.
Naegele Outdoor Adv. made application for two sign permits. Both signs are for
the Paul Miller property, I35W end County Rd. 54.Y both are for 4 surfaces:
300 eq. feet, steel, presently unlit. Fees to #120 is to be located on Sec.
25, T.31, R. 25 Parcel 600. #121 is to be located on Sec. 24, T. 30, R22.
Any future lighting would be flouresoent with light from below. It was noted
that there have been objections to the Standard Oil sign. The gentlemen from
Neegele felt this was probably mercury vapor that's why it is so intense. Mr.
Locher could see no problem with these and they were approved by Mr. Gotwald
as far es location. Mr. Korth moved to recommend to the Council that they
approve these signs. Seconded by Mr. Kelling. Carried unanimously.
The Clerk submitted a letter listing the sign permits issued since May 22, 1971:
per the P&Z's request. Numbers 111, 112, 113, and 114 were issued prior to
October. In October 116 and 117 were submitted but are held pending informa-
tion on the code. Mr. Locher will look into this matter for the next meeting.
Mr. Korth requested information regarding a sign permit granted about two years
ego, but the sign was not constructed. Would this have to be rezoned and re-
issued now? Mr. Locher is going to check into it and advise later in the
meeting.
Glenn Rehbein requested permission to have the Pillage Engineer go ahead and
do the engineering on the sewer and water for the Shenandoah project. Don
Marier read a letter received by him from Mr. Rehbein explaining that he really
would like to do his own contracting for sewer and roads. He would probably
put up bond for the roads when the project is about complete. Mr. Locher ad-
vised that Ordinance 22 intends that the Engineer will be working for the
Village and then billed back to the project. The ordinance assumes a special
assessment. He felt Mr. Rehbein to be very practical in that it would be half
the cost to contract for it himself. Mr. Rehbein questioned if other contrac-
tors put up bond for all three, sewer, water and roads. He felt it would run
about $200- 300,000, and that would be out of the question. Mr, Locher will
check into the prevailing situation in other arees. Mr. Korth noted he would-
n't be turning the property over to the Village until it is completed anyway.
The Village would be liable if anyone were hurt on the road since there is an
easement, but otherwise toe Village has no obligations right now.
Mr. Rehbein said that at the last meeting he indicated he would not be needing
a building permit until completed with sewer, etc., but that actually he will
need to begin building before that time, Mr. Marier asked how much this is
going to cost the Village when it takes over, Mr. Rehbein said the Village wil'r
have everything turned over to them completed, end they will then share the
maintenance cost and that is ell. He further noted that telephone, water and
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gas will all be Underground. The power company wondered if they should pelt
wiring underground for Mute ,etteet;l ghtingi It would lay in the ground
until the Village would request poles in certain areas. It would be much
more economical this way. Mr. Merier will check with the Council on this.
Mr. Rehbein indicated that the 7 acre park in the project will be seeded end .
completed by him. It is already dedicated. It will be a selling point for
the project, Mr. brier will check with the Park Board ooneerning this park.
Mr. Keliing moved to recommend to the Council that the Engineer prepare plans
and specifications per Glenn Rehbein's petition per Ordinance 22. Seconded
by Mr. Sheeran. Carried unanimously.
Ken Rehbein requested a variance to Ord. f'21A, to split a 1 acre lot into the
following parcels:
Lot "A": The West 90 feet of Lot 3,
Auditor's Sub. No. 100
and
Lot "8 ": Lot 3, Auditor's Sub. No. 100,
Anoka County Minnesota, except the West
90 feet thereof."
The property is less thil2 1/2 acres on a dedicated road, The reason for thi'
appeal is that the property is 1 acre square with 208 feet of road frontage az .
by splitting it, it would enable him to build a horse on the extra piece. The
homes on both sides are approximate 100 foot lots, so he feels this would be
the thing to do with this property. Mr. Hill questioned the drainage as it
slopes toward Co. Road 23. Mr. Rehbein said it is a level piece of property
and will not need to be regraded. Mr. Locher said it would be costly to plat
this, so it lends itself to a variance. Also, the County would require e
turn around so no one would back out on Main`St. M'. Shearen moved to re-
commend that the Council apptove this varielce with the stipulation to in-
clude a turn arbund on the property. Seconded by Mr. Karth. Carried unan.
Mr. McLean read a letter dated February 15, 1972, from Mr, G0twald concerning
Mr. Rebbein's site and office building plans on Highway 8 (County Rd, 23) and
Main St. He stated that the plans generally comply to the Village Ordinance
requirements. The exception is that a detailed plan of the proposed septic
tank and drain field system is required. He recommended that the developer
submit a plan to the Village Clerk. This plan should have the approval of the
Anoka County Comprehensive_ Health Dept. The letter further states that the
plans for the disposal of storm drainage is adequate, providing that the site
is completed as shown on the plan. He did point out however, that as the
area develops, the ditch along Hwy. 8 will become inadequate.
No letter of reccndation had yet been received from Mr. Van Housen.
Mr. McLean suggested that the back line should be screened from the home area.
He felt a positive, physical screening would be indicated (instead of just
pine trees) such as redwood fencing, It was thought this might be best work-
ed out with the neighbors.
W. Hill was concerned that the culvert across Vicky Lane might not be
aiifficient to handle the disposal of storm drainage. One of the neighbors
present indicated that the culvert is plugged up at present. Mr. McLean re-
commended we continue on with this site plan until the March meeting to give
Mr. Rehbein time to conform to the suggestions in Mr. Gotweld's letter. Also,
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that Mr. Van Housen be alerted to submit his approval in the next week, and if
not, that Mr. Gotwald be instructed to perform this function prior to the
meeting. Seconded by Mr. Hill, Carried unanimously. It was noted that the
Clerk should see that Mr. Rehbein gets a copy of the February 15th letter and
also a copy of Mr. Van Housen's letter upon receipt. It was suggested that
Mr. Rehbein meet with the neighbors as regarding the fencing before the next
meeting also.
The Clerk wrote to El Rehbein & Son on February 2, 1972, reminding them that
a year had passed since they granted permission to start construction on
three apartment buildings on land adjoining his office, which was rezoned to
commercial for that purpose. Mr. Rehbein's reply is dated February 4th, in
which he states it is still their intent to build these apartments, but be-
cause of the money and tax situation, they felt it was necessary to hold off
construction for another year. He asked that everything stay as it is for at
least another year. Mr. Locher noted it is zoned commercial without limita-
tion. Therefore, no action was taken.
A. A. Johnson Tool submitted plans for a building addition. The planned add-
ition is 60 x 60 facing off =Aqua Lane. This is a machine shop and tool and
dye - no painting operation, no cleaning or metal treating done.
Mr. Gotweld indicated in his February 15th letter that the plans as submitted,
do not fulfill the requirements of Ordinance No. 56, Section 5.03. The
following items should be included:
1. Certification of plans by a registered architect.
2. Existing or proposed well locations.
3. Parking area and location.
4. Driveway entrance locations.
5. Proposed site elevations and drainage.
6. Septic tank plans and county approval„
7. Set back distance from the south property line to the new
addition.
He also questioned the location of the septic tanks as to set back requirement:
There is only a one foot setback indicated on the addition plans from the ad-
joining property. There should be a 10 foot-set-back from side property, but
the existing building sits back less than that. Mr. Johnson was advised to
check with the Engineer concerning this set -back. Mr. Van Housen hadn't sub -
mitted his comments.
Mr. McLean said that Mr. Gotweld had advised that this should be referred to
the plumbing inspector. He felt there might be some problem here with drain-
age. Mr. Hill advised checking out a new sewage system instead of upgrading
the old.
Mr. Hill moved to hold this over until the March meeting upon satisfaction of
the requirements as outlined in Mr. Gotwald's letter and also comments by the
planner. Seconded by Mr. Kelling. Carried unanimously.
U.S. Lakes Development Co. requested a variance to the zoning code as pertains
to the minimum square footage requirements for a multiple family dwelling.
Mr. McLean advised them that we will be looking at this particular section of
our code within the next two months. He questioned why an individual property
owner should pay for our study. We need to take a look at this square footage
allowance for the whole Village, as pertains to single family hoaxes as well as
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multiple units,
Mr, McLean questioned whether they would be presenting P&Z with a quadrominitmn
home proposal within the next three months. Mr. Woolen said yes, as it appear.
now. Mr. McLean stated we would try end target ourselves to coincide with
their activities, This is to be put on the agenda for the next meeting. He
recommended P&Z members acquaint themselves with different quads in the mean-
time.
Mr. Locher advised Mr. Korth he could find nothing immediately as to whether
Mr. Bratland could construct his sign on the property zoned commercial two
years. He will call the commissioner about it and advise Mr. Bratland.
Mr. Hill questioned whether the Park Board bad done anything about setting up
snowmobile trails in the Village. Mr. Marier said no, but the Drifter's
Snowmobile Club has trained about 70 people recently, They also plan to do
policing.
Mr. Locher received a call from Mr. Hamacher the owner of the property next to
Bob Wilson's and the Skyline Auto Body. He plans to fill in the concrete
block and cement (75% plus). The rest will be lumber and some pipe. Mr.
Hutchinson approved this as long as they do it:
1. Within one week
2. Have two feet of cover.
3. County will inspect in spring, and then the owner must
refill if the cover has sunk.
Mr. Hamacher said this land is not swamp, it is dry. He plans to put up
cyebne fencing in the spring. At present he has the towing contract for the
highway department for this area.
The advertisement for the "Snowmobile Ranch" on Birch Street was brought up
again. Mr. Metier advised that the Clerk was writing them a letter and they
will appear at the next Council meeting.
Mr. Locher had a report from the police department concerning Bob Wilson's
property on Highway 49, next to Dick Olson's. Mr. Hutchinson's office is
trying to catch him at some time also.
Mr. Kelling moved to adjourn at 10:30 P.M. Seconded by Mr. Hill. Carried
unanimously.