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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06/21/1972 P&Z MinutesJune 21, 1972 The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was called to order on June 21, 1972, at 8:10 P.M. Mr. Winiecki and Mr. Kelling were absent. Corrections on the May 24, 1972 minutes were: Page 1, Paragraph 4 from the bottom, Line I, "selling" is misspelled. Mr. Hill moved to accept the minutes to the May 17th and May 24th meetings as presented with the correction. Seconded by Mr. Karth. Carried unanimously. Floyd Miller request for two variances was reviewed at this time because oone of the others on the agenda were as yet present. These variances are requested on West Rondeau Drive and they are nonplatted. On the parcel labeled Lot A he requests a variance for less than 2/ acres. The parcel would be 209'x414'. He is selling it. He mentioned that percolation tests were taken on it. Mr. Nadeau moved to recommend the Council grant variance to Mr. Miller on Lot A. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Carried unanimously. The second variance is for the adjoining parcel labeled Lot B. He is giving this as a gift to his son and is asking for a variance for less than 21 acres, and more specifically for 120' frontage. The Board asked him if he could give his son 30 more feet to bring it up to our code of 150 ft. He was told we don't want to set precedent for granting less. There was general discussion as to the reason for the setback of 414 feet. He said it was due to a ditch running through hack in there. He figured it would make it easier for dividing up later on as he wouldn't have to work around that ditch. Mr. Shearen moved to recommend that the Council grant a variance on Lot B for less than 2$ acres with frontage of 150 ft. Seconded by Mr. Hill. Carried unanimously. Mr. McLean advised receipt of copies of agreements from Brede with Jesse Heller and Ed Karth. These easements provide access to signs, and will be given to the Council for their information. Mr. Nadeau asked if anything has been heard from the attorney regarding the mining of black dirt. It was mentmoned that Marvin Rehbein is doing the same thing off of Highway 49. Mr. Marier said a letter had been sent, but nothing has been received regarding this matter. Mr. Marier and Mr. McLean noted the fact that 90% of the items on the agenda are for variances. Mr. Marier said that either our ordinance is wrong or it is right. Everything should be treated according to the ordinance with good judgment. We must live with the ordinance or change it if it is bad or wrong. Mr. Marier pointed out an article in the paper regarding the adoption of the State Building Code as of July Ist. The article noted the villages would still be given the right to regulate sizes of buildings. He felt that, in view of this, he was right in recommending 100 sq. ft. minimum areas. Mr. Marier also commended the Board for doing their work and doing it well. Bill Leonard requested an extension of 64th Street for about 1/4 of a mile road back into the Iverson property (40 acres). 9r. McLean informed the lversons that the develoner provides all roads. Benefitting property owners would have to share in the cost. This would be extending a Village road - the County would have nothing to do with it. Blacktop and curbing are required in our Code. Mr. Marier advised that assistance is available for roads, and our Village Engineer would consult with them regarding all problems. it was sug- 2 6/21/72 gested they submit plans for developing this acreage and find out if the Council would pass on it first. Mr. Iverson said his dad told him about 15 -20 years ago that he had two accesses through to that property. He was advised to ask Mr. Locher to look it up. Skelly 011 requested a variance to Ordinance No. 51. Three months ago they applied for and were granted a permit for a 65 ft. sign. They would now like to apply for one 100 ft. tall. This would be at the Highway 35W and 49 inter - secdion. They maintain that at 65 ft., coming from the South, the Food modular would not be visible, and it is important that they identify the restaurant. Photos were submitted showing a boom indicating the 100 ft. mark. There is a sign on the expressway erected by the State informing of food and gas next exit. Sixty percent of the investment is X in the station and forty percent in the restaurant. There is no standardization on their restaurants, they are run by independent people. Mr. Hill moved to recommend denial of the request on the location previously granted a 65 ft. sign in view of the local ordinance Seconded by Mr. Nadeau. Carried unanimously. Ken Rehbein is requesting variance to Ordinance No. 56 under Section 5.05, for a pole barn on commercial land. Mr. Locher told him a special use permit would not enter in here since this is an addition to what the area is already used for, and it will be used in the same way. The pole barn will be used for stor- age of hay and to keep horses in during shows In the winter. There will be no sewer or water in the building, and use is established, therfore he couldn't see any sense to submitting more detailed plans. Mr. Karth moved to recommend the Council approve a variance for a pole barn on the property on which the horse arene is located. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Carried unanimously. Forrest Tang requested a variance to Ordinance No. 51, for a 100 ft. sign. Ed Kully, the gentleman selling him the sign, showed drawings and photos of the proposed sign. It has a 205 sq. ft. face and says simply, "Western ". Mr. McLean advised them that our Code specifies all steel construction. Mr. Kuliy said at 85 ft. you can just see the boom from the exit and it is too late to turn. This could cause a real traffic problem. They want to put the sign abou 200 ft. down the fence line and it will be at least 1/4 mile from the Skelly sign. They can work around the requirements of the Ordinance here. The real problem is the big white oaks blocking the view on 35W going north. Mr. Tagg said that if people can't see the sign they owon't turn off; they'll go on to Forest Lake. The Board advised that the reasons for their objections were the Ordinance specifies 65 ft.; airplanes fly at less than 100 ft. along the expressway; and signs that large are not a beautifying asset to the Village. There was dis- cussion as to what other course of action might be taken. Mr. Kully said he had looked into all possibilities. Naegele charges $200 a month to rent space and then they won't rent permanently. Mr. Karth noted that he had heard from Brede that the State gives out sign permits under certain circumstances. Mr. Kully said this is just when it isn't zoned and then it is still up to the Village. Mr. Hill asked if there might be another means of advertising. Mr. Nadeau said he is in sympathy because there certainly exists a hardship here. The consensus of the Board was that both the Skelly and Western sign must be considered at the same time. The same problem exists for them both. Mr. Nadeau recommended, then moved to table the variance request until next month and that the Village Planner be advised of the request and asked to 3 6/21/72 submit an opinion within the next two weeks. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Carried unanimously. The Clerk was told to notify all people on the agenda who did not appear: Chomonix, Mrs. Youngbauer, Arlo Morehouse, Gilbert Menkveld and Mr. Giischin- ski, and tell them they were dropped from the agenda, and they would have to reapply to be on for another month. Mr. Shearen moved to adjourn at 10:10 P.M. Seconded by Mr. Karth. Carried unanimously.