HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/12/1990 P&Z MinutesDESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING
September 12, 1990
Chairperson Fred Chase called the regular meeting of the
Design Review Board to order at 7:03 p.m. at the Lino Lakes
City Hall. Members present were: Monika Slatten, Robert
King, Fred Chase, John Bergeson, and Al Robinson. Also
present were: Mayor, Harold Bisel; City Planner, John
Miller; City Engineer, Dan Boxrud; and Planning Secretary,
Laura Elken.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
Mr. King moved to approve the minutes of August 8, 1990 as
written. Al Robinson seconded the motion and the motion was
approved.
OPEN MIKE
Doug Vigers approached the board. He lives at 6152 Oak Wood
Drive in the southern part of Lino Lakes. He lives on a cul-
de -sac and his lot is heavily wooded.
Mr. Vigers wanted to put up an accessory building earlier
this year but was advised to wait until August because he did
not want to disturb the trees on his lot and create an oak
wilt problem in his area. He is now ready to construct his
accessory building and in discussing this with the city
planner and building official the accessory building
ordinance has been changed, and now he cannot build the size
of accessory building that he had originally planned.
Mr. Vigers said that his neighbors have the size building as
he would like to build. He has his neighbors approval.
John Miller said that he has visited with Mr. Vigers on two
different occasions. Under the old ordinance his building
would have been allowed. His lot measures 216 x 205 just
over an acre.
Mr. Miller informed Mr. Vigers that city staff is responsible
for enforcing the city ordinances, but that he could apply
for a variance. He told Vigers that by appearing before the
DRB under open mike he could get a feel from the board as to
if he should proceed with the variance application or not.
Mr. Miller neither discouraged him or encouraged him to
apply.
Al Robinson asked him how large of an accessory building does
he want to construct. Vigers did not have plans ready at
this time. He said that his first concern was his neighbors.
If his neighbors are comfortable with the accessory building.
Mr. Chase informed Mr. Vigers to apply for a variance and be
heard before the board in October. He was also asked to have
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written plans as to how large of a building he would like to
construct.
An application and copies of the six findings of fact will be
sent to Mr. Vigers.
VARIANCE FOR ROBERT T. NELSON FOR AN ADDITION ON TO THE HOME
ON EAST SHADOW LAKE DRIVE, APPLICATION #90 -50.
The applicant, Robert T. Nelson, was one of the first
residents in Lakes Addition. Nelson and his wife purchased
Lot 15 of Block 4 of Lakes Addition No. 2.
The property is located at 6733 E. Shadow Lake Drive and has
access to Reshanau Lake. The lot has 108 feet of frontage on
the street and approximately 87 feet of frontage on the lake.
The Nelson's residence is located at the north side of the
lot and has a side yard setback of 15 feet at the front of
the house and 12.7 feet at the rear of the home. The garage
is located on the south side of the house and has a setback
from the south side yard of approximately 38 feet.
The Nelson's wish to build a 7 x 24 addition to their home
and the only direction possible is north into the 12.7 foot
setback. Presently the city's zoning ordinance requires a
five foot setback on the house side of the lot and 10 feet on
the garage side. To construct their 7 foot wide addition the
Nelsons require a variance to build within 5.7 feet of the
side lot line.
Mr. Miller stated that when the Nelsons' home was
constructed, it was without consideration of future
subdividing or additions.
Mr. Miller added that by constructing the addition, it would
not "look goofy ", and would appear to a passerby that normal
setbacks had been followed.
Mr. Bergeson added that he did look at the site and the home
to the north of the Nelsons as quite a distance away. Mr.
Bergeson didn't feel that the addition would be distracting
to his neighbor.
The board felt that this application did meet the six
findings of facts.
MOTION: Robert King moved to recommend to the city council to
grant a variance request to Robert T. Nelson, Application
#90 -50 for a small addition to his home. John Bergeson
seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously.
REVIEW OF A MINOR SUBDIVISION, EARL OLSON, APPLICATION #90-
49.
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Robert Arnold, a Realtor, was present to representing the
owner.
The applicant owns approximately 35 acres of land at 1210
Main Street, immediately southeast of Lino Lakes City Hall.
Presently the land is divided into three parcels. There is a
residence on the north western parcel, a piece of land that
measures approximately 200 x 415 feet and covers an area of
about two acres. There is a second small and separate lot of
record in the southeastern corner that also measures
approximately 200 x 415 feet. This parcel is land locked and
there are no structures on the land. The remainder of the
land is in a separate contiguous parcel that includes a
wetland and a Minnesota Pipeline Company Easement.
The applicant, Earl Olson, wishes to combine and subdivide
the three existing parcels into four lots. Olson proposes
to:
1. Eliminate the land locked two -acre lot in the south
east corner.
2. Add approximately three acres to the non - conforming
lot in northwest corner making it a "more -
conforming" five acre parcel.
3. Create three saleable ten acre parcels with access
to Main Street.
The land is located in the city "Rural" zoning district.
Minimum lot dimensions require 330 feet of frontage on a
public road and a lot area of at least ten acres. The three
new parcels each meet these requirements. The existing
parcel (Parcel A) has a width of 207 feet and an area of two
acres. The width of this lot is not increased by this action
but its area is more than doubled to five acres. It becomes
more conforming.
This subdivision would have to be reviewed by the Anoka
County Department of Transportation.
The park dedication ordinance requires a $400.00 park fee for
each new residential lot. Three new residences will be
constructed so a total park payment of $1200 should be made.
A recommendation for approval can go to the city council
contingent upon receipt of the material verifying the parcels
are buildable.
The city council has indicated that it wants soil borings and
perc tests for all non - sewered lots before they're approved.
That information has not been received at this time.
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Al Robinson pointed out that when issuing building permits
the homes cannot be close to the pipe line in this area.
Robinson stressed that the Realtor become aware of the
setbacks from the pipe line. Dan Boxrud felt that a 50'
setback is required from the pipe line, and that it may be
safer to remain 50' back from the pipe line easement itself.
MOTION: Al Robinson moved to recommend to the city council
approval of a Minor Subdivision for Earl Olson for property
described in DRB Application #90 -49 contingent upon the
following:
1. Review by the Anoka County Highway Engineer and
granting of driveway permits by the county.
2. Payment of a $1200 park fee.
3. Submittal of soil borings and perculation tests.
Monika Slatten seconded the motion.
John Bergeson amended the motion to read:
4. That the lots are indeed buildable and meet the
proper setbacks from the pipe line.
Monika Slatten seconded the motion and the motion was
approved unanimously.
REZONING REOUEST FOR PHEASANT HILLS, APPLICATION #90 -51.
Ed Vaughan has been working for several months to get a
portion of his approximately 307 acres of land 1) located
within the Metropolitan Urban Services Area, 2) served by
city water and sewer, and 3) subdivided for single family
lots. At this point in time Vaughan has been successful in
all three endeavors.
One more issue is yet to be resolved. Vaughan must get his
land rezoned from its present "Rural" zoning to the R -1X
Single - Family Executive district.
Within the Rural district no single - family development on
small lots is permitted. The minimum lot size in the Rural
district is ten acres. In addition the Rural district is
intended for areas outside the MUSA boundary.
MOTION: John Bergeson moved to recommend to the city council
rezoning of the land commonly known as Pheasant Hills from
"Rural" to "Single- Family Executive" as outlined in
Application #90 -51. Mr. King seconded the motion and the
motion was approved unanimously.
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ADAMS OUTDOOR SIGN COMPANY,
APPLICATION #90 -52.
John Bodger, owner of the property along 35E and Co. Rd. 14
addressed the board. He displayed pictures to the board
members of what type of sign is considered for this area.
John Miller addressed the board. He stated that Adams
Outdoor Sign Company wishes to erect a billboard on the
northeast quadrant of C.R. 14 and I -35E. The sign would be
two sided and visible to both north and southbound traffic on
the freeway. Dimensions of the sign include 45 feet of
height and sign face measuring 14 x 45 feet. The area of
each sign would be 672 square feet. The height of the sign
would be the equivalent of a four story building. The sign
also would be lighted.
In late 1988 Adams Outdoor Sign applied for conditional use
permits to erect two signs near the city's freeways. In
early 1989 after review by the economic development committee
and the planning and zoning board the city council denied
both permit applications.
The land proposed as the site for the billboard is within the
city's "LI" Light Industrial zoning district.
Section 5, Subd. 5 of the zoning ordinance makes provision
for and outlines the procedure of the granting of conditional
use permits. The ordinance states in part:
The planning commission shall recommend a conditional
use permit and the council shall order the issuance of
such permit only if it finds that such use at the
proposed location:
A. Will not be detrimental to or endanger the public
health, safety, morals, comfort, convenience or
general welfare of the neighborhood or the city.
B. Will be harmonious with the general and applicable
specific plans and policies of the Comprehensive
Plan of the city and this Ordinance.
C. Will be designed, constructed, operated, and
maintained so as to be harmonious and appropriate
in appearance with the existing and /or intended
character of the general vicinity and will not
change the essential character of that area.
D. Will be served adequately by essential public
facilities and services, including streets, police
and fire protection, drainage structures, refuse
disposal, water and sewer systems, and schools; or
will be served adequately by such facilities and
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services provided by the persons or agencies
responsible for the establishment of the proposed
use.
D. Will not create excessive additional requirements
at public cost for public facilities and services
and will not be detrimental to the economic welfare
of the community.
F. Will not involve uses, activities, processes,
materials, equipment and conditions of operation
that will be detrimental to any persons, property,
or the general welfare because of excessive
production of traffic, noise, smoke, fumes, glare,
or odors.
G. Will have vehicular approaches to the property
which are so designed as not to create traffic
congestion or an interference with traffic on
surrounding public thoroughfares.
H. Will not result in the destruction, loss, or damage
of a natural, scenic, or historic feature of major
importance.
I. Will conform to specific standards of this
ordinance applicable to the particular use.
In addition, the ordinance requires the city make a finding
of fact with either approval or denial.
The current comprehensive plan shows the land planned for
commercial uses. However the city has contracted with Short,
Elliot, Hendrickson to complete a land use study and
engineering feasibility study of the area. This is being
done in response to petitions received from local land owners
for the extension of utilities into the area. The plan will
be completed in fall of 1990. Planned land uses will
definitely be changed in that plan.
John Miller also stated that Adams Outdoor Sign is making
much of the fact that its proposed sign location is more than
1200 feet from the nearest billboard and more than 750 feet
from the nearest residence. Attached to its application
Adams submitted a court order overturning the City of
Bloomington with denial of a conditional use permit for a
billboard.
In reviewing the court document though Mr. Miller found that
the reasons Bloomington gave in the denial were as follows:
1. Farvue Sign had a bad "track record" outside of
Bloomington.
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2. Farvue would advertise only KSTP.
3. Farvue had an "aesthetically undesirable" airport
sign outside of Bloomington.
The Bloomington court order (actually a writ of mandamus)
states "...The application by Farvue met all of the objective
and subjective criteria contained in the city's ordinance..."
The emphasis here should be on objective and subjective.
Adams is stating something like "We're meeting all the
distance requirements now you've got to give us a conditional
use permit or else."
The city denied applications from Adams before and John
Miller feels the city should do so again. Miller thinks this
is the wrong place for a billboard. With utility petitions
from the landowners the city can initiate improvement
projects in the area. The assessments will force quick
development. The planning process in place for the area now
will end this fall with a "developer's luncheon" in which the
metro area developers will be invited to start construction.
I doubt that a business located under a 4 story lighted sign
would be desirable. If the city permits this sign erection
it may well be doing so at the cost of other development.
Mr. Chase asked if any other applications have been before
the board since the denial in 1988. Miller answered no.
John Bergeson stated that'an interchange study is now being
completed for this area. The city is not sure yet the
results of this study. He feels it would be wise to deny
this application at this time.
MOTION: John Bergeson moved to recommend to the city council
denial of a conditional use permit for Adams Outdoor Sign
Company to erect a billboard as outlined in Application #90-
52 based on the following findings. The billboard:
1. Will be detrimental to the general welfare of the
neighborhood and the city.
2. Will not be harmonious with the general and
applicable specific plans and policies of the
comprehensive plan of the city.
3. Will be designed so as not to be harmonious and
appropriate in appearance with the intended
character of the general vicinity and will change
the essential character of the area.
4. Will be detrimental to the economic welfare of the
community.
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5. The area is being considered in a land use study
and the interchange study has not been completed
yet.
Mr. King seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unanimously.
John Bodger may take this application to the city council. A
public hearing is required for a conditional use permit. If
the applicant wishes to pursue this application the public
hearing would be scheduled for the fourth Monday in October.
REVISION OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REGARDING WETLANDS /DAN
BOXRUD
Dan Boxrud addressed the board. He stated that there has
been a considerable amount of discussion recently regarding
impacts of ponding and drainage areas on new subdivisions.
The City of Lino Lakes has started to require developers to
include ponding areas and other drainage facilities in
easement areas on platted lots, as opposed to separate
outlots. This is contrary to the city code book. In
addition, Mr. Boxrud said that how individual lots are sized
adjacent to ponding areas and wetland vegetation areas has
become clouded as a result of the Army Corps of Engineers
protecting certain wetland vegetation areas which may not
ever have standing water. This can occur where the water
table bounced up to within inches of the ground surface
causing wetland vegetation to flourish on land not having
standing water.
Mr. Boxrud felt that Section 1001.08, Subdivision Design
Standards, should be modified at Subdivision 6, Lots,
paragraph (4). The board members received a photocopy of
this portion of the code. Boxrud feels that the area should
be changed so that the ponding areas and other drainageways
are included in the lot.
Mr. Boxrud discussed the reasons he feels that the
drainageways and ponding areas should be included within the
easements on the lots as opposed to separate outlots. He
explained that with separate outlots under city ownership,
the city becomes totally responsible /liable for the property.
The city would rather be in a position of only being
responsible for maintaining the drainage system, not
maintaining the property to the satisfaction of the adjoining
property owners nor being responsible for removing debris
people may discard in the ponding areas.
With the ponding area being within easements on a lot, the
adjoining property can maintain their property as they see
fit, within the limitations imposed by the Army Corps of
Engineers, the DNR, the Rice Creek Watershed District and
other city requirements. With a separate outlot owned by the
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city or a Homeowner's Association, the individual property
owner does not have that freedom.
This paragraph of the city code should also be rewritten in
order to make it more clear that the ponding area is not to
be considered as part of the buildable area of the lot.
Mr. Boxrud suggested that the definition which paragraph (4)
refers back to should also be changed. The only definition
in the subdivision code relating to water courses is called
"Natural Water Way" and is listed as item (12) in the list of
definitions.
Mr. Boxrud recommends the definition for a natural water way
be changed to read as follows:
(12) Watercourses - As mentioned in this chapter shall
mean any natural or man -made passageway on the
surface of the earth so situated and having such a
topographical nature that includes ponding areas,
drainage channels, swales, waterways, creeks,
rivers, lakes, streams, wetland areas, and other
open surface water flow which is the result of
storm water or ground water discharge. This term
does not include man -made piping systems commonly
referred to as storm sewers.
Boxrud also recommends that paragraph (4) of Subdivision 6 be
revised to read as follows:
(4) Watercourses - Watercourses shall be protected by
easement to the anticipated high water level as
determined by the city. Lots shall be of
sufficient dimensions and area to equal or exceed
the minimum specified in the zoning chapter for
the district in which these lots are located, as
measured above the normal water level in the
watercourse as determined by the city.
Paragraph (4) as rewritten would require that the buildable
area on a lot abutting a watercourse be equal to the minimum
requirements of the zoning district, so that the lot would be
comparable to a lot not abutting upon a water course. One
minor exception would be that during a significant rainfall
event, the water would creep into the lot a minor amount
decreasing the available lot size during the storm. For
example, a ponding area with a "bounce" of two feet during a
storm may creep into the property 6 to 20 feet depending on
how the lot is graded. A 3:1 slope, the steepest slope
recommended, would result in only a 6 foot encroachment. A
10:1 slope at the side of the pond would result in a 20 foot
encroachment. Likewise, the easement limit would be 12 to 20
feet toward the house from the normal water level.
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