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DESIGN REVIEW BOARD
February 13, 1991
Chairperson Fred Chase called the regular meeting of the design
review board to order at 7:00 p.m. at the Lino Lakes City Hall.
Members present were: Monika Slatten, Robert King, Fred Chase, and
John Bergeson. Absent was Al Robinson. Also present was: Mayor,
Harold Bisel; City Planner, John Miller; City Engineer, Dan Boxrud,
Building Official, Peter Kluegel; and Planning Secretary, Laura
Elken.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
Monika Slatten moved to approve the January 9th minutes, Robert
King seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously.
REVIEW OF A SITE AND BUILDING PLAN FOR INSIDE SPORTS, APPLICATION
#91 -01.
Ted Mattke, Engineer presented the proposal to the board for an
indoor sports facility. The facility will contain four outdoor
softball fields, horseshoe pits, and volley ball courts.
The 90 foot high inflatable soft ball dome will include a
restaurant, community rooms, offices, and batting cages. Most of
these uses will be included in a masonry structure contiguous to
the actual dome. Space will also be reserved for the future
construction of the Minnesota Sports Federation Hall of Fame,
general office, and gymnasium.
Mr. Mattke discussed drainage within the site. The developer will
leave as many existing trees and brush around the wetland as
possible.
The land is presently zoned Light Industrial and a sports dome
would be appropriate for this zone.
John Bergeson asked about the entrances to the site. Mr. Mattke
stated that Jon Street will be extended somewhat to reach the
parking lots.
Robert King stated that he lives within 100 feet of this proposed
structure. The developer met with the neighbors and there are no
complaints. The only request the neighborhood has is that 74th
Street be blocked off so that thru traffic is impossible. John
Miller suggested this be completed before construction begins to
deter construction traffic.
Fred Chase stated that as a part of the site and building plan
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approval architectural drawings should be provided. No plans were
submitted for the building attached to the dome.
Ted Mattke stated the dome consists of a concrete shell. The
concrete will be a textured finished, not a flat smooth finish.
The developer would be open to suggestions. He explained that the
developers wanted to get through this stage before they invested in
the expense of building plans.
Mr. Mattke stated that the restaurant will be a bar and grill and
will face the ballfields. The restaurant will be the centerpiece
of the facility.
MOTION: John Bergeson moved to recommend to the city council
approval of a site plan, application #91 -01 by Inside Sports
contingent upon the following:
1. Incorporation of comments by the city engineer.
2. A revised landscape plan should be submitted prior to
city council action showing the following:
A. Placement of foundation plantings on the south side
of the dome /restaurant structure.
B. Reduction of the asphalt area between the dome and
the outside fields, more trails /sidewalks should be
used and more landscaping added.
C. Sidewalks and trails should lead to the horseshoe
pits.
D. Additional trees should be planted on the berm
(city code requires 50 per cent opacity).
E. Nineteen parking spaces can be eliminated at the
west side of the parking lot.
F. Islands should be located in the parking lot at
least every 140 feet of parking aisle. The islands
should be two parking spaces side.
G. The berm should be 48 feet wide not 40. With a 4:1
slope the required six foot high berm will need the
extra eight feet.
3. Detail should be submitted on lighting fixtures and
location of standards should be shown in the parking lot.
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4. A 100 per cent opaque screen (fence) should be placed
around the dumpster.
5. Detail should be submitted on the monument sign.
6. Existing trees and brush in the northwest corner of the
site should be saved.
7. Submittal of building plans for approval by the design
review board and the city council.
8. Vacation of a portion of 74th Street and the extension of
a berm to eliminate through traffic.
9. Invest in the paving of 74th Street and 27 feet of the
right -of -way on Jon Avenue.
Robert King seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WENZEL FARMS TOWNHOMES,
APPLICATION #90 -68 AND A REZONE OF THE PROPERTY.
John Bergeson explained that in October of 1990 the design review
board reviewed the concept plan for Wenzel Farms. Tonight the
board is reviewing the preliminary plat.
John Miller stated that the board is reviewing the part of the
Wenzel Farms Subdivision that includes townhomes. The single -
family portion of the subdivision has been approved previously.
The board then requested that the townhome portion of the plat
would be shown as one large lot, and the townhomes would be
reviewed and approved separately.
The plan shows 75 townhouses to be located on 12 -15 acres of land,
this amount of land would vary once park land and utility easements
were included.
The board received copies of the plat, articles of a home owners
association, and received floor plans and elevations, and what the
townhomes would look like from the outside.
Mr. Miller explained that two rezonings would actually have to be
completed. First the area would have to be rezoned from R -1
single - family to an R3 or and R4 multiple- family. Then from
multiple- family housing zoning it would have to be rezoned to a
PUD. This is necessary because the developer wishes to install
private roads. Also with a PUD the city and developer will be able
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to agree on a very detailed plan. Requiring a PUD would have
similar requirements as a R -4.
The real main issue with the board was the amount of detail they
received from the plat that was presented to the board. The board
compared this site plan with the D. Erickson's Willow Ponds
Townhomes in the past.
John Miller stated that Kirk Corson, Planner for this project was
attending the Rice Creek Watershed District meeting and could not
attend the DRB meeting. Mr. Corson is in the process of reviewing
the plan with all the required review agencies. Correspondence
from the MN Department of Transportation was given to the board
members stating that only two entrances would be granted instead of
the proposed three. The original concept plan only showed two
entrances.
John Bergeson pointed out that in the city engineers memo dated
February 7th it suggests that Lino Lakes does not have a specified
zone that complies with townhomes. A PUD may be the only viable
option the city has.
Mr. Chase stated that he was a board member when the Dennis
Erickson Townhome project was before the board along with board
member Robert King. He said that there was a considerable more
amount of detail with that project. The project shows no
screening. Ms. Slatten added that some of the townhomes were
located on the drainage easements, some of the homes would have to
be eliminated.
Mr. Chase stated that the next step the board has to make is to
rezone the property. The developer has to submit an adequate plan
first so that the board members are able to see what will go into
the property once it is rezoned. Until this is completed he
doesn't feel a rezone can be granted. He felt this should be
tabled. If it were denied the applicant would have to wait for a
year before applying again, and added that rezoning simply to an R-
4 would be impossible.
John Bergeson stated that the detail provided does not comply with
an R -3 or R -4 entirely because of private streets and other items,
so what is requested does not fit that proposed zoning.
Mr. King stated that the exterior of the building should be
discussed.
Roger Hokanson, Developer and owner of Hokanson Plumbing stated
that time is of the essence. He said that he wants the rezone
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because 10 days after approval they want to close on the property.
He stated that single- family homes would be constructed first.
Once that phase is near completion then the townhomes will be
constructed.
Mr. Chase stated that he wants to see the location of all the site
improvements, decks, lighting, fences, landscaping, etc. The
developer will meet with staff to discuss this in more detail.
MOTION: Mr. King moved to table this item until further
information is provided for the board's review. Included in the
revised site plan will be landscaping, and screening. John
Bergeson seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unanimously.
REVIEW OF A CONCEPT PLAN FROM RON BIRCH FOR TOWNHOMES LOCATED NEAR
LAKE AMELIA CALLED LAKE AMELIA ESTATES.
Ron Birch approached the board. He is the developer and builder
for this site. The concept plan is for executive townhomes near
Lake Amelia. The board is looking at the first of two phases. Mr.
Birch is hoping the city will put this item into a PUD.
The land is not within the MUSA boundary at this time. The city
would have to initiate a comprehensive plan amendment and trade
some land that is now within the MUSA.
John Bergeson informed Mr. Birch that he is a step or two behind
the applicant for the Wenzel Townhomes. He stated that the board
will be asking for the same amount of detail for his townhomes.
The plan shows a one way street on the plat. He said he designed
the project for good traffic flow and off street parking.
Monika Slatten asked about how the neighbors felt about the
townhomes. John Miller had a chance to visit with the property
owners adjacent to this area. The property owners are interested
in keeping the land as undisturbed as possible. They have done a
lot to maintain the rural setting, have lived their a long time.
Through Mr. Miller's visit with them they reached the realization
that on three sides of their property it is eminent that urban
development will occur. The owners on the west is owned by North
Oaks people and they realized that they are in essence on a rural
peninsula.
They starting looking at different things to do to the area to
protect the wildlife as much as possible. The lake would be
restricted not to allow motorized boats. Mr. Birch said that the
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DNR questioned him about this issue. He said that he wants the
wildlife to stay in this area and will not allow boating or did not
want the construction of gazebos etc.
Mr. Chase stated that Birch is proposing two units per acre, this
is a different type of townhome development.
MOTION: John Bergeson moved to recommend to the city council
approval of the concept plan for Ron Birch for Lake Amelia Estates
with the following conditions:
1. Comprehensive plan amendment to place the land in the
MUSA boundary.
2. Land use plan amendment and rezoning to permit
townhouses.
3. Completion of a utility agreement with White Bear
Township.
4. Submittal of detailed landscaping and site and building
plans, and a two way street be included in the plat to
allow more flexibility.
5. Plan approval by all other permitting agencies.
Robert King seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unanimously.
MOTION: Robert King moved to recommend to the city council
approval of a comprehensive plan amendment as presented to the
board. John Miller asked that Brian Bourassa work with Dan Boxrud
on this item. Monika Slatten seconded the motion and the motion
was approved unanimously.
The area to be taken out of the MUSA boundary will require a public
hearing. Mr. Miller will hold a special neighborhood meeting
involve them in the decision making process.
8:21 p.m. a five minute recess was called.
8:21 p.m. the meeting was reconvened.
MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR MARLIN HANSEN, APPLICATION #90 -15.
John Miller reviewed some of the history regarding this property.
He stated that in 1985 Mr. Hansen was interested in constructing an
accessory building. His lot was one acre in size. Mr. Hansen
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brought in an application and the building of a boat house was
approved with the contingency that parcels would be combined to
create a two and a half acre parcel. Then the boat house would be
in compliance with city code. The code read that the applicant had
to have between 2 1/2 to ten acres of land to have a structure of
1,000 feet. In 1985 the building official was given two
verification numbers from the county stating that Mr. Hansen's land
had been combined. Contrary to what the building official was told
the land was never combined.
Presently Mr. Hansen wishes to sell part of his land to Mr. Bob
Adamson so that he can have access to his proposed plat Oak Brook
Peninsula.
Frank Kern addressed the board. He stated that Mr. McClain was on
the P &Z board in 1985 and is related to Mr. Hansen. Mr. McClain
did step down and abstain from voting on this issue.
Mr. Kern stated that at one point many relatives had bought land
from Mr. Hansen and covenants were written up. Now Mr. Hansen is
saying that the covenants are no good.
Mr. Kern also stated that his property is in violation of the
ordinance because an apartment has been constructed. There are two
meters and he has falsified documents showing that he is in
compliance with the ordinance and the city council's wishes.
Mr. Kern added that the reason for installing the boat house was to
keep his boats inside. He said that there are at least 10 cars
parked outside his lot.
Mr. Kern recommended the following:
1. The board force Hansen to remove his boat house because it does
comply with city code or...
2. Let him keep his boat house once he complies with the
provisions set in 1985, and pay back taxes that would be due to
him.
Mr. Chase stated that the issue before the board is can the
applicant take one large parcel and subdivide it as asked of them.
If the board says no it is up to the city to pursue forcing Hansen
to combine his parcels.
John Bergeson stated that he needs to know if a subdivision of
these parcels were approved the board is still unsure about how the
road will be designed leading to Oak Brook. Bob Adamson stated
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that the roadway leading to his development will not disturb Mr.
Hansens lot. Also Mr. Adamson stated that the elevations of the
road will not cause any problems.
The board discussed the possibility of Mr. Hansen purchasing land
from Adamson south of his current lot to create a parcel of 2 1/2
acre minimum.
Mr. Adamson stated that a condition put on him from the DNR was
that some land be reserved for a walk way for the residents to get
to their docks on the lake.
After further discussion a motion was made.
MOTION: John Bergeson moved to recommend to the city council
approval of a minor subdivision for Marlin Hansen as requested in
Application #90 -15 with the following modifications:
1. The applicant create an antiguous 2 1/2 acres to include
his residence and boat house.
2. A sixty foot wide parcel be created and used for road
access to Oak Brook Peninsula.
3. A third parcel include the land north of the cul -de -sac
on Otter Lake Drive and a portion adjacent to that east
of the channel and be contiguous with the land north of
the road and east of the channel.
John Bergeson stated that the motion passed by the city council in
1985 to combine the land went beyond what was required at that
time.
If Mr. Hansen does not end up with an adequate amount of land he
may purchase some from Bob Adamson to create a 2 1/2 acre parcel
Mr. Bergeson added that the testimony given at the meeting points
to other violations by Mr. Hansen. That is not the board's
concern. The fact that Mr. Hansen is renting out a portion of his
home is an issue that will have to be dealt with by city officials.
Mr. King seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE FOR DARLA LOWELL REGARDING ROAD WIDTH,
APPLICATION #91 -02.
Darla Lowell, 6559 24th Avenue South approached the board. She
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owns 10 acres of land that was recently subdivided into four - 2
1/2 acre lots. They are planning on extending a street giving
access to these lots, and are seeking a variance for the street
width. The street is 1300' long and they do not feel that a wide
street with concrete curb and gutter is necessary.
She stated that Elmcrest, (which is the cross road) is going to
upgraded in the near future and that street is only going to be 24
feet wide, with no concrete curb and gutter.
She petitioned for the road in 1988 before the new street standards
took into effect. This road is not going to be highly traveled.
Dan Boxrud stated that the street standards were amended in the
spring of 1990 to require concrete curb and gutter in all
locations.
Dan Boxrud stated that he sees six possibilities for the Lowell.
They are as follows:
1. Allow rural streets (ditches) for areas not planned to
receive sanitary sewer by the year 2000.
2. Allow rural streets for those areas which do not yet have
sanitary sewer available but are within the MUSA line and
conceivably could receive sewer by the year 2000.
3. Allow rural streets for all areas not currently receiving
sanitary sewer service.
4. Allow a bituminous curb (urban section, no ditches) for
areas not planned to receive sanitary sewer by the year
2000.
5. Allow bituminous curb for areas within the MUSA line.
6. Allow bituminous curb for all areas not currently
receiving sanitary sewer service.
Dan Boxrud stated that if the reason the improvement is not ordered
is due solely to cost, deleting the concrete curb and gutter alone
would not save the money the property owners indicate they would
want to save. The cost savings for deleting concrete curb and
gutter is only about $5.00 per linear foot, or in this case about
8% of the front footage assessment rate. If the project is changed
to be a 24 foot rural roadway with 3 foot gravel shoulders, the
assessment rate would drop about 19 %, or about $12.00 per front
foot.
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Dan Boxrud stated that he does not believe that this financial
issue would lead one to believe that the six findings of fact
necessary to grant a variance would be met.
MOTION: John Bergeson moved to recommend to the city council to
deny a variance for Darla Lowell, Application #91 -02 for a street
width of 32 feet. The six findings of fact cannot be met on this
issue. Robert King seconded the motion. John Bergeson stated that
the design review board is the keeper of the rules and we have to
pay attention to that. This item can still go before the city
council for another chance to plead your case. The motion was
approved unanimously.
REVIEW OF THE DRAFT INTERCHANGE STUDY
Randy Thoreson of SEH discussed the interchange study. The two
study areas were areas surrounding 35W and 35E. Michael Mulrooney
analyzed the growth potential within the areas. To touch on this
briefly the area surrounding 35W and Lake Drive would largely be
commercial and small businesses. Whereas the area surrounding 35E
would consist of industrial growth with some commercial business
close to the interchange.
Mr. Thoreson suggested that this be followed up with an action plan
to implement some of what the study brought up. The action plan
could result in a comprehensive plan amendment.
OLD BUSINESS
John Bergeson asked about any progress regarding Henry Laska. John
Miller stated that a report will be given to the board members next
month.
Mr. King moved to adjourn the meeting. Ms. Slatten seconded the
motion. Meeting adjourned at 10:23 p.m.
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