HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/18/1973 P&Z MinutesApril 18, 1973
The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board
was called to order by Chairman McLean at 8:10 P.M. on April 18,
1973. Members present; Karth, Hill, Ke l I i ng, Shearen. Absent;
Nadeau; Farrand. Councilman Marier was also present.
Mr. Karth moved to accept the minutes of the March 21, 1973
meeting as presented. Seconded by Mr. Hill. Notion carried.
`r'ir. Ernie Zelinka, representing the For -Jay operations was there
to present the plans and specifications for the years 1973 and
1974. Mr. McLean read Mr. Gotwald's comments on the site and
site plans. There are at the present time, 11 buildings and the
seedling house. The plans for 1973 call for the construction
of buildings 12 through 20. These buildings permits are to be
issued by number. There is also plans for the construction of
a double aarego and storage building in 1973 as well as a fence
along the frontage on old Highway #8. This fence w i l l either
be of the chain Zink variety or a rustic cedar rail fence. This
decision was left to the owner. Mr. Hill asked if the request
was for the Board to review the entire package. Mr.Zelinka said
that he was only asking for approval of the 1973 plans. at this
time. He said the overall design of the buildinp will be the
same except that they will enclose the cooling systems on new
construction.
He was asked how they disposed of the used water and nutrients.
Mr. Zelinka said the solution is used for about 2 weeks and
then it is dumped in back of the present buildings in a wet well.
This contains nothing that is not found in good soil. In order
to serve the purpose for growing their vegetables it must be a
perfect balanced solution and after about 2 weeks use it loses
some of the nutritional value and must be replaced.
!ir. Hill asked if they had plans for screening on the North and
South l i nes of the property. Mr. Zelinka said there was no n ro-
biem, if this is the desire of the Board. There was discussion
on the interior streets. Mr. Ze 1 i nka said the streets w i l l have
a rock base with a limestone cover and will meet all State Specs.
tir. McLean moved to accept the For -Jay Greenhouses proposal as
presented for 1973 to include buildings 712 through #20 plus a
two car garage and storage building, fence across west frontage,
either chain Zink or rustic style, I" to 2' Dia. Basswood or
Green Ash on North and South property lines for screening, roads
will be of crushed limestone. Prior to construction in 1974,
For -Jay will make a presentation the P &Z, outlining their- plans
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for that year and a complete typographical map showing water
run -off. Seconded by Mr. Kell ino. Motion carried.
Mr. McDonald appeared in connection with the radio tower to be
located on Birch Street on the Amelia Rehbein property. Mr.
McLean read a letter from Ir. Gotwald stating there was in-
sufficient information to make a decision on this proposal. He
would need plat plans. Mr. ticLean read a letter the Clerk had
received from Mr. Hugo Jorgenson which included a request for
free service for the Village and two meter amateur radio re-
peater groups.
Mr. McDonald said this would be a two -way receiving and sending
tower with a range of about 25 mile circle.
Mr. Hill asked about the poorer watage. Mr. McDonald d said the
out -put would be about the same as a 40 watt light bulb. This
is an UHF from 450 to 470 MHz. The service road would be of
class 5 gravel just for the use of an econoline van used to ser-
vice the tower. ;fir. McDonald was questioned on the 225' set-
back from the center line of Birch Street. He said he choose that
spot from the results of soil test. This proved to have the
necessary soil for a stabel base for the tower. The Board was
concerned about the tower blocking the roadway it it should ever
topple. The tower would be set on a cement base and have several
layers of guy wires. This sort of construction does not topple
over they sort of collapse within the guy wires.
Mr. McDonald gave the Clerk a cony of the permit issued by the
FAA. This permit is in effect until 3rtember of 1973, for the
construction of this tower.
Mr. Gordon Mi k leson of ;!CCO was in the audience. He said there
was some problems in connections with the property owned by that
station and located South of this site. But he felt that they
were things that could be resolved. He also said that this sort
of a tower does not topple that it w i l l fall within the guy wires.
They want to know more about the plans and whit landscaping is
planned for this site. He has some date that he will submit to
Mr. Gotwald before the next meeting.
A lady from the audience asked who this company is and whet they do.
Mr. i•-1cDonal d said he is the company and he builds and manages two
way radio towers. She asked what plans he had for the remaining
land. Ir. McDoeald said that they only had use for 10 acres but
the owners do not want to break up the forty acres so they
bought the entire piece and at the present time they have no
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plans for the rest of the acreage. They will not disturb the land
in any way. She asked if this would interfere with radio and TV
reception. Mr. McDonald said, No, and Mr. Pllkleson added that
if there was interference, then the company would be required to
screen it out. This is according to FCC rules.
Mr. Karth asked if there would be a fence around the tower and
cables. Mr. McDonald said there would be an ei g;it foot chain link
fence .sound the area, also, the lower bolts would be removed
from the tower to a height of 20 or 30 feet.
Mr. Hill asked about the welding. Was it done on the site or is
it shop welded? Mr. McDonald said the welding is done in a shop
and he is not sure of what kind of inspection is done or required.
This is one thing the Board would require -a report on the type of
inspection done on the welding.
Mr. McDonald said that the FAA specifications for the Ainneapolis
are a wind load of 30;'-` per /square inch to withstand an 80 mi le
an hour wind. This tower would be built to with a wind load of
40# per /square inch to withstand a 100 MPH wind. The specs for
the tower exceeds the FAA requirements.
Mr. Ke l t i ng moved to continua this hearing to the May 16, 1973
meeting in order to have adequate information. Seconded by Mr.
Karth. Motion carried.
Mr. Ron ?!i I l iams appeared to request the erection of modular home
models on property located in front of the Acton Construction
buildings. There was also a lack of information submitted with
this request. Also, since Hr. i"1i li iams will only be leasing this
iand, the Board felt that Mr. Paul Mi Iler, the owner, should be
present at the hearing. There was discussion on these homes -
they will be set up on cement pillars and wi l l have no utilities ,
except power. The office will have a private utility stystem.
There were questions as to the ingress and egress of the lo-
cation with the Board suggesting that he divide the narking area
from the street. The surfacing of the parking was discussed.
Mr. Wi I l iams had considered limestone for a covering but Mr.
McLean said that the Board has been requiring blacktop on parking
areas.
Mr. Hill questioned the construction of these homes and was told
that they are very well constructed, they are delivered in two
sections and put together at the site -they have all the appliances
built in; carpetinci, draperies, these are included in the price
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of the houses whirs, --a in the range of $20,000.00 to $28,000.00
incl a-03,000.00 lot. The smal lest house has 1008 sq. ft.
Mr. Ke I I i ng moved to de l ay a deci s i'on on this unt i 1 the May 16,
1973 meeting. Mr. ?Williams will contact Mr. Gotwald and get the
information necessary to meet the codes of the Village. He will
get this information in the Clerk's office by May 6, 1973.
Seconded by Hr. Shearen. Motion carried.
The Board also requested that Mr. Paul Mi I l er appear at that hearing.
Mr. Dielentheis appeared for U.S. Lakes Development with sign
permit ap1ications to erect temporary signs directing prospective
buyers to the Chomon i x Development, now known as "Country Lake".
These signs are to be located on the Arthur Hawkins property on
Co. Rd. "J" and Centerville Road at the intersection of .Birch
Street.
There is a sign on Centerville Road at the present tire that there
is some question about. This must be cleared up before any action
can be taken on this application.
There was much discussion on whether these applications were for
temporary signs or permanent signs. Mr. Dielentheis said his
understanding of the code would make these temporary signs, Mr.
McLean was under the impression that they would be permanent
signs. The Clerk was asked to contact Or. Locher for a ruling
on this.
Mr. Karth moved to recommend to the Council the issuance of a
sign permit to U.S. Lakes Development for e sign to be erected
10' east of the micro wave tower fence and 10' north of the
right -of -way 1 irie on Co. Rd "J" per specs i n app 1 i cation.
Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Motion carried.
Mr. Dielentheis asked if the Board would not recommend approval
of the second sign subject to Mr. Locher interpretation of the
sign ordinance and removal of the existing sign. Seconded by
Mr. Shearen. Motion carried.
The Board considered the two applicants to serve as planning
consultant for the Vi Ilage. Mr. McLean went through the final
letters received from the applicants. After review and discussion,
Mr. McLean moved to recommend to the Counci I the hiring of Mr.
Lee Starr of Beckman Yorer, and Seay, Inc. with Mr. Starr to
start immediately. Seconded by Mr. Hi II. Motion carried.
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No one was present to represent either Skyline Auto Body or Able
Systems. Their request for a building permit was postponed until
the May 16, 1973 meeting, with Mr. Ramacher to answer the following
questions; the meeting of the previous requirements for asphalt
parking, sodding and shubery; screening especially on the North
side and rear; what about the parking drawn in on Lot 8, what is
it to be used for, the surface, when completed; what are the plans
for the rear of the lots al lsw for 60' road in order not to land -
lock; what about frost footing -can this building be erected on a
floating slab and meet state requirements; and the building use.
Mr. McLean felt that Mr. Gotwald should take a look and check the
specifications.
Mr. McLean asked that when a planner is hired by the Village that
a special meeting be set up by the Planning and Zoning Board to
meet with him and discuss the current position of the Village
Planning.
Mr. Karth asked about the Orono Ordinance. Mr. McLean felt that
there wasn't sufficient time to discuss this thoroughly and suggest-
ed postponing it until the next meeting. Mr. McLean moved to
recommend that the Council take some action on the old gravel
pit since it has become a sanitary landfill by virture of the
dumping of trees and all forms of rubbish. The old block buildings
is full of overstuffed furniture. The gravel pit is posted but
Mr. McLean felt that it should be fenced and the building should
be removed. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. lotion carried.
Mr. H i l l suggested that in ,: the future, the Board require
security lighting, such as is on Restoration Enterprise building,
to be either of soft light or to be directed so as not to shine i
into the highway.
Mr. McLean also suggested that we contact one of the places that
haul away junk cars free for the parts. This could be done in
connection with the Spring clean -up week in April and could be
handled through the Police Department,
Mr. Ke l l ing moved to adjourn at 10:45 P.M. ''Seconded by Mr.
Shearen. AYE