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HomeMy WebLinkAbout12/13/2006 P&Z MinutesAPPROVEDMINUTES CITYOFLINOLAKES PLANNING&ZONINGBOARDMINUTES I.CALLTOORDERANDROLLCALL : Chair Tralle calledtheLinoLakesPlanningandZoningBoardmeetingtoorderat 6 :31 p.m.on December13 ,2 006 . II.APPROVALOFAGENDA Theagendawasapproved aspresented III.APPROVALOFMINUTES: November8 ,200 6 Theboardmovedapprovalofminutestotheendoftheagenda . Mr.Rafferty madeaMOTION to approvethe Nov ember8 ,200 6 Minutes as presented. Motionwas supportedby Mr.Laden .Motion carried 4 –0 .(M r.Pogalzabstained .) IV.OPENMIKE Chair Tralle declared O pen M ike at 6:32 p.m. Therew asnoonepresentforOpenMike. Mr.P ogalz madeaMOTIONtoclo seOpenMikeat6:34 p.m.Motionwas supportedby Mr.L aden .Motioncarried 4 -0 . V.ACTIONITEMS D ATE :December13 ,200 6 TIMESTARTED :6 :31 P.M. TIMEENDED :9 :54 P.M. MEMBERSPRESENT :Perry Laden,RobertNe lson ,Brian Pogalz (Vice Chair),Rob Rafferty (arrivedlate ),PaulTralle (Chair);MichaelRoot MEMBERSABSENT :MichaelHyden STAFFPRESENT :PaulBengtson ,JeffSmyser &JimStudenski Planning&ZoningBoard December13,2006 Page 2 APPROVED MINUTES A.CONTINUED PUB LICHEARINGfora PreliminaryPlatandVariancesfor frontsetbackanduplandlotareaforFran’sEstate Mr.Bengtson statedthatrevis edplanshadbeensubmitted ,andtherequestforfront setbackwasremoved so thevariancerequestwasforuplandareaonly.Staff recommendedapprovalofth e requestforuplandlotsizeandpreliminaryplatsubjectto the eleven conditionslistedinthe staffreport. Mr.Nelsonaskedifthe400ft.wetlandfillneededtobeacondition.Mr.Bengtsonsaid thatstafffeltthatbecausethefillwasminimal ,aconditionforthisitemwasnot necessary. Mr.Pogalz askedabouttheconditionreferringto ane xistingsepticsyste mneeding tobe abandoned onthe site.Mr.Bengtsonstatedthatth isisa standardrequirementofthe ordinance,andthatthereis notnecessarily onein existenceonthissite. Mr.Rootaskedifthe6%deviationwas considered mino rduetothelargesize ofthe property .Mr.Bengtsonrepliedthatstaff didconsiderthe percentage tobe minorbecause ofthesizeofthis property. Mr.Pogalzaskedifthereisanystandingwaterinthisarea.Mr.Studenskirespondedthat thewetland areadoesholdwaterforaminimaltime,butitisnotanissueandwillbea citymaintenanceprocess. Applicant,Mr.FranTourville,6948LakeDrive,s ai dthatheagreedwithallofthe conditionslistedinthestaffreport.Mr.Tourvillecommentedth atRiceCreekWatershed hasinformedhimthathecanfill400feetasanamendmentonhispermit. Mr.NelsonaskedifMr.Tourvillehadconcernsiftheboardaddedthe400footfillasa condition.Mr.Tourvillestatedthathedoesnothaveanyconcern sandwouldnot mind if theyadded the condition. Boardmembers concludedtoaddaconditionregardingthewetlandfill. Mr.P ogalz madeaMOTIONto closethePublicHearingat6:49 p.m.Motionwas secondedbyMr.L aden.Motioncarried4 -0. Mr.Nelson madeaMOTIONtoapprovethePreliminaryPlatandVarianceforuplandlot areaforFran’sEstatewiththefollowingconditions (Condition12wasaddedatthe meeting): 1.Existingonsitesepticsystemswillbeappropriatelyabandoned. 2.Existingwellsshall becappedwhenrequiredbyMinnesotaDept.ofHealth requirements. 3.IssuesdiscussedintheCityEngineerreviewmemomustbeaddressedtohis satisfaction. Planning&ZoningBoard December13,2006 Page 3 APPROVED MINUTES 4.Adevelopmentagreementbetweenthecityandthedevelopermustbeexecutedprior totheissuance ofanybuildingpermitsforthesite. 5.Parkdedicationmustbepaidinaccordancewiththecity’sfeeschedule. 6.ApermitfromtheRiceCreekWatershedDistrictmustbeissuedpriortofinalplat approvalbytheCity. 7.Infiltrationareasproposedonsites houldhavetheCitynativeseedspecificationused. 8.Aboulevardtreeshallbeprovidedforeachlotfrontage. 9.A10footdrainageandutilityeasementmustbeprovidedtobufferalldelineated wetlands. 10.Alandscapingplanclearlydepictingconformancewi ththebufferyardstandardsin Section3.Q.5mustbesubmitted. 11.Ajointaccesseasementagreementandmaintenanceagreementsmustbesubmitted withthefinalplat. 12.Theapplicantmustfill400squarefeetofwetlandarea,inaccordancewiththeRice Cree kWatershedDistrict’sstandards,tomaximizetheuplandlotareaforthesite. Motionwas secondedby Mr.Laden .Motioncarried 4 -0 . B.PUBLICHEARINGforanAmendmenttotheCityofLinoLakes ComprehensivePlantoincorporatetheHodgsonRoadandCount yRoadJ MasterPlanfortheareaaro undtheintersectionofCSAH49/CountyRoadJ Mr.Smyser present edthestaffreport.Mr.Smyserpointedoutthataneighborhood meetingwasheldbya“propertyowner”andthatinnowayisstaffconsideringany indivi dualapplicationsfordevelopmentwith thisprojecttonight.Hestatedthathewould presentabackgroundandthe city’sconsultantCarolynKrallofLandFormwillpresent theMasterPlan . Mr.Smyserpointedoutthatthe 49/J intersectionfunctionsveryp oorlyatthecurrent time.Studiesshowthattherewillbeanincreaseintraffic.BothHodgsonRoadandCty Rd J arearterialroadwaysservingmorethanjusttheimmediatearea.Thes tudyarea lackssufficientinternalroadways.Anybusinessexpansion willrequireextensivesite planning.S taffhasacknowledgedthecurrentandfutureneeds forpublicwaterand sanitarysewerinthearea . Mr.Smyserstatedthatthisisagatewaytothecityandvisualelementsshouldbe important.Thereares everale xistingviablebusinessesinthearea andplanninghas considered bothexistingandfuturebusinesses. Planning&ZoningBoard December13,2006 Page 4 APPROVED MINUTES Mr.Smyser explained theexistingguideduses(landusemap)accordingtothe ComprehensivePlan ,andthe existingzoningmapforthisarea.He showed thetrailplan forth e area ,pointingout thatwetlandsshouldbeviewedasopenspaceandbufferareas. Mr.Smyserp o intedouttheimportanceofrecognizingtheimpacttoneighborhood residentialdevelopmentsinthearea.Staffistryingtoaccommodat etheinterestsof manyresidentsandpropertyowners.Theyneedtoconsidera ccessand traffic circulation and developmentpotential.Reducing the numberofaccesspointsisanimportantsafety issueandallowsbetterflowontheroads. Mr.Smyserpoin tedoutthatm ostofthetrafficgeneratedtothisareaisgeneratedoutside ofthestudyarea.AsignalisnecessaryattheCountyRdJ/HodgsonRdintersection. Mr.Smyserexplainedthatthereareanu mberofexistingdrivewayswithinthestudy area.T hec onceptistoprovideonemajoraccesspointtothenorthofCountyRoadJthat wouldconnecttointeriorstreetsleadingtodriveways.Staffhashad extensive discussionswiththeAnokaCountyHighwayDepttodeterminethelocationofthemajor access point.ThegoaloftheAnokaCountyHighwayDepartmentistoprovide circulationalongHodgsonRoad.TheAnokaCountyHighwayDepartment statedthata signalwouldnotbeallowedattheproposedaccesspoint. Mr.Smyserexplainedtheexistingwaterne tworkwithinthisarea ,pointingoutf our potentiallocationstohookupto the city’swatersystem.Hee xplainedtheexistingsewer systemandshowedareasofcapacityconstraintsontheeastsideofthestudyarea.The is sueistodeterminehowtohook uptoexistinglocations. CarolynKrall,LandForm ,statedthatsheisanu rbandesignerandarchitect whohasbeen workingonthisproject withcitystaff for the pasttwoyears.Ms.Krall presented the MasterP lan.Alightedintersectionwithpedes trianimpro vementswasakeyelementin the process.Planning determined itwasimportanttomaintainresidentialflowbetween LinoLakesandShoreview. Ms.Krall confirmedthisareais agatewaytothecity.Thereisano pportunitytocreate pleasinge lementsonth e corner sandprovide identitybywayofa w elcometothecity sign.Theydonotwanttocreatea genericsuburbanshoppingmallarea.Theyp laced businessesclosertotheroadway inordertobe pedestrianfriendlyand for traffic calming. Ms.Krallp ointedoutthatparkingisproposedbehindthebuildingswithwalkable connectionsbetweenthebuildings.Shee xplained the visionfortrailsthroughout the studyarea . Ms.Krallexplainedthattheproposedplanprovidesforav arietyofsm allretailand commercialbuildingswitharangeofhousingtypesthatmeetthecomprehensivePlan’s anticipateddensities.Shep ointedoutthattheareatotheeastisanecologicallysensitive areathathasbeenaddressedandaccountedfor.She address edtrailconnectionsto existingparks,bufferareas,wetlandmitigationandreducedparking.Sheaddedthatthey havet riedtoincorporate the interest s ofpropertyownersand int eresteddevelopersinthis area.Shesaidthattheyhavebeen approachedw ithaninterestforasmallbigbox and theyhaves tudied the potentialimpactforthisarea. Planning&ZoningBoard December13,2006 Page 5 APPROVED MINUTES Mr.Smyser statedthat theyrecentlyreceived atrafficanalysisforthearea .Heexplained thatther esults showedthata bigbox commercialunit wouldprob ablynotbe accommodatedbytheroadsystemevenafterthe trafficsignals areaddedandasecond majoraccesspoint accountedfor .Abigboxwould potentially pushthetrafficcapacity over t hethr esholdfortrafficgeneration. Mr.Nelsonpointedoutth ats ignals areclosertoeachotherin thecityofS horeviewwith trafficflow ing justfine.Mr.SmyserrepliedthatHodgsonRoadisa nAnoka County StateAidHighway ,andthat Anoka C ountyandRamseyCountyhavedifferent approaches.Ramsey County ismu chmoreurbanizedandtheirpoliciesreflectthat.Ms. KrallstatedthattheCountyhasstatedtheirstandardsforthecity. Mr.Ladenasked if the fullydevelopedretailcouldpushtraffictothelimit.Mr.Smyser saidthatstudiesuseaninflationfac torforbackgroundtrafficandthenaddnew development.Mr.Laden askedwhatthetimeframeforthisdevelopmentis.Mr. Smyser repliedtheyarelookingat 2015forfulldevelopment. Mr.Nelsonaskedabouttheproposalforutilitiesandiftheyhave specificsolutions.Mr. Smyserrespondedthattheplanwillbeimplementedwitheachdevelopmenttoeventually fitwithintheplanandthatutilityconnectionswillbedeterminedasdevelopmentoccurs. Mr.Rootaskedifstaffanticipatesthatdevelopmen twilloccur throughPlannedUnit Developments(PUD).Mr.Smyser repliedthat mixedusealwaysrequireaP UDi nthis city.Headdedthat PUD ’s willprobablybethemosteffectivesolution. Mr.TralleaskedMs.KrallifHodgson Road willremaina55mile perhourroad.Ms. Krallsaidshehasnotbeengiventhatinformation.Mr.Smyserpointedoutthatin urbanizedareasyoudon’tdriveasfastwhentherearenotwideopenspaces ,andthat theyh avenotproposedreducingthespeedlimit. Mr.Tralleexpr essedconcernaboutincreasedtrafficbeingasafetyconcern.Ms.Krall respondedthat oneofthereasonstodoamasterpl a n is tomakesuretheymakethe necessaryroadimprovements. Mr.Smyserpointedoutthattheoverlayimagesshowthattheexisting businesseshave beenplannedtocontinuetoexistwithinthisplanuntiltheymaydecidetodevelop differentlyinthefuture.Staffandconsultantsdidthebesttheycouldtoplanaround existingbusinesses. Mr.NelsonaskedifSadder’swouldbeable toremain.Mr.SmyserandMs.Krall expressedthatphysicallytheycouldremain.Ultimatelytheyhopethateventuallythe entireplanwilldevelopasproposed,but that mayoccurpiecebypiece. Mr.PogalzaskedwhatAnokaCounty’splansarefor anexp ansionof CSAH 49.Staff repliedthatA noka C ountyhasnoplanorfundingfor an expansion.Mr.Studenskistated thatthemoney thatwaspreviouslyproposedforthisarea wasusedelsewhereand thatthe improvementsatB i rchStreetand thebridgeimprove mentsareit. Planning&ZoningBoard December13,2006 Page 6 APPROVED MINUTES Mr.Ladenaskedifanyofthetrafficissuesaddressthe C om prehensivePlanAmendment proposed thisevening.Staffpropose d tostrikethebigbox s tatementintheplan. Mr.Trallecalledaten -minuterecessat8:10p.m. Mr.Trallecalle dthemeetingtoreconveneat8:20p.m. Mr.TralleopenedthePublicHearingat8:20p.m.andpointedoutthatpublichearing guidelineswillbefolloweda slistedonthe agenda. Mr.PeterC oyle ,attorneywithLarkinHoffman ,onbehalfofCoreDevelopmen tgroup statedthat asoftodayCore Development submittedanapplicationpackageasamixed useproject ,including groceryand senior residential.Hec omplimentedstafffor providingaframeworkfordiscussion.(Mr.Raffertyarrivedat8:22p.m.)M r.C oyle expressedthathedoesnotagreewithstaffoneveryissueofthisproject.Hed isagrees with theproposed primaryaccesslocationonHodgsonRoad.Hesaidth eythinkitcan bedoneinasafemanorandasignalwillberequired.Her equest ed theas sistanceofthe cityforbetteropportunitiestooccur.Hestatedthatt heapplicationsubmitted addressed utilitysolutionsandthe startofatransportationsolution. Mr.Alan Klugman,W estwood P rofessional S ervices ,statedthat ,f ortherecord ,he com mendsthestudyandtheprinciplesinvolved,butlooksattheplanningstudywith concernsthatthestudyfavorsoneside ofHodgsonRoad overtheother.Hesaidthey h avereviewedtheplanningstudiestothisdate,stay ed currentwiththecity’sanalysis and requestedtolookatthenewesttrafficstudyresults.Heg reatlysupport s asignalized intersection,butknow s thatitwon’tgoinrightaway.Hewondered what wouldhappen betweennowand 2014.Heh asreviewedTKDAtrafficstudiesanddetermined that70% oftrafficisgoingtothesouthandthatonly30%isgoingtothenorth.Hesaidm ost criticalisaleftturnoutofdevelopments.Hestatedtheyd on’tagreethatbettermassing oftrafficistotheeastside. Greg G anyo,own erofinsuranceo fficeonthe 2 nd lot north of CountyRdJ/HodgonRoad, speaking asafriend,neighbor,fellowbusinessowner ,statedthatp iecemealcreatesa detrimenttoexistingpropertyownersandbusinesses.Hesaidheisn otafraidof developmentandwantstoseec ityprosper ,butinafairandequitablemanner.Henoted thatth eyarethecurrentinfrastructureandwouldliketoseenotjustpiecebypiecebut haveagoodplanandusethemajorplayerstoencouragedevelopment.Hisconcernis thattheyshouldbes uretokeepexistingbusinessesinsite. Bill O lson,W oodridge L ane,s t ated concernabout a bi g boxon the westside.Hesaid thathea ttended the meetingof C ore D evelopmentandstatedthatanumberofneighbors areopposedtoaCubbeingdevelopedont hewestside.HesaidthattheW oodridge neighborhoodwastherefirstandwouldbedisappointedinaCubfoodsgoingin. Mr.Mike B lack,R oyal O aks R ealty,present onbehalfof BrunnB rothers ,e xpressed interestindeveloping onthe cornerofWareRoada ndCountyRdJ.Hesaidhea ttended the neighborhoodmeetinganddistributedtheircommentsfortherecord.He Planning&ZoningBoard December13,2006 Page 7 APPROVED MINUTES c omplimentedstaffbutalsohadissueswithpolicies.HestatedthatB runn B ro ther s bought10acreson thenorthwest cornerof W are RoadandC o unty RoadJ .Hesaidthe propertyisguidedforresidential ,isnot in the MUSA ,andisinthe stageonegrowth area.He saidhe isp rimarilyconcernedwith the masterplan intersectionandfuture developmentof the 10acres.Heshowedplans thatthey believewouldworkontheir property. Mr.SteveThompson,815AshStreet ,stated thatthe roadismaintainedbyRamsey Countyandthisplanneedstobeworkedoutbetweenallstakeholdersinvolved.Hesaid that RamseyCountyandShoreviewshouldbeinv olved and itshouldbeajointproject betweenresi dentsandlandowners .Hestatedt hisprojects h owsalackofcooperation. Hestatedthatw hatheishearingisthatthisareaneedstobecleanedupandthatthereisa goodconsensusofthat.Hesaidl andownerstherearenotexpressinginterestinsellingon theeastsideofHodgsonRoad ,andthatt hisplaneffectivelytiesuptheabilityforthemto improvetheirproperties.Hec omment ed thethereisnotextinthedocument describing stagesorbuildi ngs,butreferstothem.Hei sconcernedabou t thecitymarchingforward withthecity’sbudgetandnotinvolvingneighboringcounties. Connie G rundhofer,235 L inda Avenue ,askedabout theproposedlanesforCSAH49, statingshehasseenmultipleproposa ls.Shealsoasked whatahighlyenhancedbuffer zonemeans. Mr.Raffertym adeaMOTIONto close thePublicHearingat8:50p.m.Motionwas s econd ed by Mr.N elson.M otionpassed5 -0. Mr.Tralleandcitystaffansweredquestionsposedbyspeakersdurin gthepublichearing. Ms.Krall explaine dthatHodgsonRoadisproposedtoincludetwo throughlanesand two turnlanes(rightandleft)attheintersection,addingth at then orthboundlanes willbe determined.SheaddedthatCountyRoadJwillbe dete rminedbetweenthetwocounties. Shesaidthatif developmentdoesoccurtheywillneedsignalsandturnlanes.Shestated theyaren otattemptingtodeterminewhatwillbeneededtothesouthofCountyRoadJ , asitis notnecessaryatthislevelforth ismasterplan. Mr.Smysers tated thataccesspointswouldbeestablished .Hestatedtheyn eedtomake sureroadlocationsareequallyfairtoeverybody and will planforbothsidesoftheroad. Mr.Smyserstatedthattheplanningobjectivesstate thattherearecertainthings establishedrightwheretheyareshown. Mr.Smyserstatedthat they haveworkedwithalloftheneighboringcitiesandcountiesin acollaborativeefforttogetanswersandmakedeterminations.Hesaid theyarenotatthe le velwheretheyneedto determinespecific dimensions ,andthey couldaddastatement thattheyarenotestablishingthelocationsandspecificsofanyshownmedians.He addedthatt hereisastatementintheplansayingthatspecificbuildingdetailsare notyet established. Ms.Krallreiteratedthatallexistingbusinessescouldfunctionwithintheproposedplan, butright -of -wayacquisitioncouldaffectparking. Planning&ZoningBoard December13,2006 Page 8 APPROVED MINUTES Ms.Krall statedthatthemasterplandescribesa highlyenhancedbuffer asscreeningand landscapingthatincludesfencing,etc.toincludelightandnoisebuffering. Mr.SmyserexplainedthatthecityofLinoLakeshasaMUSAreserveinwhichthecity isallowedtoallocatetheavailableMUSAastheyseefitwitheachdev elopment. BoardMem bersdeterminedthattheywouldlike toremove t helasttwoparagraphson page35referringtobigbox. Mr.Trallecommentedthatthecitywillnotbeforcinganyonetosellbut thismasterplan willallowthosewhowanttodevelopanopportunitytodoso . CoreDevelopmentstatedthatiftheamendmentmovesforwardthisevening,thentheir proposalwillnotfitintothispropos edplan .Hesaidt heyhaveabigprojectandare preparedtoparticipatefinancially. Mr.Nelsonaskedhowlongtheyexpectton e edtoworkwiththecityandthecounty. M r .Coyle replied thebigboxispreparedtogo inimmediately,wouldfittheaccess points,andwouldfitwithintheproposedtrafficandconfirmedthathewouldliketo movetheaccesspointfurthernorthonHod gson.Herequestedthattheboardtablethe item. Mr.Tralleaskedwhentheyneedtomoveahead.Mr.Smyserstatedthattheearlierthey establishrulesfordevelo pmentinthisareathebetter. Mr.Coylestated thattheplan as presentedforeclosesopp ortunitiesthatcouldbe availabletothecityand he wouldlike achancetotryandworkontheirproposedplan. Mr.Raffertyaskedifitwouldbebeneficialtowaittomaketheirdecisiontoensurethey haveaccommodatedallpartiesinvolved.Mr.Smyse raddressedthatthelocationofthe accesspointonHodgsonroadisacriticalpieceofthemasterplan,thattheissuehasbeen addressedandallproposalshavebeenlookedatextensively f oralongtime ,andthatthe proposedlocationiswherethecity firmlybelievesitshouldbe. Mr.Raffertyexpressedconcernthatallcountiesarenotonboardwitheachotheratthis point.Mr.Krallrespondedthatthecountyhasnotacknowledgedimprovementsinthis areabecausenodevelopmentplanisinorderfor thisarea.Ms.Krallsaidtheyarenot abletomoveaheadwithfurtherplanninguntilaplanisinorder.Sheisnotconvinced thereisasmuchforeclosurewithpotentialbusinessasisbeingstatedtonight. Mr.Nelsonappreciatedstaff’seffortsover theyearsintheplanningofthisarea.Mr. Nelsonsuggestedthattheboardcontinuetodiscussthisfurtherandthattheboardhasnot hadadequatetimetodiscusstheplan. Mr.Smyserstatedthatthecityshouldnotmakedecisionsbasedononeapplica nt’s submittal ,addingi tistheresponsibilityofthecitytolookatthebigpictureandnotwhat Planning&ZoningBoard December13,2006 Page 9 APPROVED MINUTES individualdeveloperswanttodo.Heexplainedthe reason for plan ning anareaisto determinethebestcoordinateddevelopment toservethelargerpublic . Mr.Pogalz saidheunderstands themasterplanningprocessandthevision ,buthas troublewiththefactthatadeveloperhasproposedaplanandisreadytomoveahead. Boardmembersrequestedtohaveanopportunitytoseetheproposedplanandifitw ould havepotentialtoworkinthisarea.Mr.Nel s on wanted tohearandlearnmoreaboutthe accesspoint. Ms.Krallstatedthat a workshopsessionwiththeP&Zboardtoreviewthepossibilities of theplan couldbebeneficial.Ms.Krallstatedthatit shouldbeinaworkshopsetting,not apublichearing,thattheycouldexplainthealternativesandgiveabetterunderstanding ofthepossibilitiesforhisarea. BoardmembersproposedaworksessionforThursday,January4.Staff statedthey w ould conf irmdetailswithboardmemberspriortothemeeting.Mr.Trallemadeitclear thattheboardischoosingtoholdaworkshoptobettereducatethemselvesinorderto makeadecisionandnottofavoraproposeddevelopment,andthathewouldconductthe mee tingasaworksession. Ms.KrallrequestedthatCoreDevelopmentshouldsubmitanyrevisionstocitystaffas soonaspossible. Mr.Raffertymadea MOTION totablethe AmendmenttotheComprehensivePlanto incorporatetheHodgsonRoadandCountyRoad JMasterPlanfortheareaaroundthe intersectionofCSAH49/CountyRoadJ totheJanuary 10 ,2007Planning&Zoning BoardMe eting.Motionwass econdedbyMr.Laden.Motion carrie d5 -0. VI.DISCUSSIONITEMS A.2007MeetingDates Mr.Smyser statedthatthe CityofLinoLakes2007ApplicationDeadlineandMeeting Schedulew as includedinthepackets. VII .ADJOURNMENT Mr.Raffert y madeaMOTIONto a djournthemeetingat 9 :54 p .m.Motionwas supportedby Mr .Nelson .Motioncarried 5 -0. Respectfullysubmitt ed, DawnBugge CommunityDevelopmentAss istant