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CITY OF L I NO LAKE S
PLANNING & Z O NING BOARD MINUT E S
DATE : May 11, 2005
TIME STARTED : 6:32 P.M.
TIME ENDED : 9:41 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Hyden, Laden, Nelson, Pogal z , Rafferty, Root, and
Tralle.
MEMBERS ABS E NT : None.
STAFF PRESENT : Jeff S m yser; Michael Grochala; and James
Studenski; Paul Bengtson
I. CAL L TO ORDE R AND ROL L CAL L
Chair Rafferty called the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Boar d m eeting to order at 6:32
p.m ., May 11, 2005.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Chair Rafferty added the VFW prope rty to the end of the agenda.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: April 13, 2005
Chair Rafferty reques t ed the followin g change: P a ge 5, third paragraph from the bottom,
last s e nten ce to read : He thanked the Board for their work on this developm ent and
agreed with Mr. Pogalz comments regarding the screening, but expr essed concern that
although this was in written form , ther e were no visual plans and the Board really needed
to address it visually a nd not leave it to the unknown .
Mr. Tralle m a de a MOTION to approve th e April 13, 2005 Minutes as am ended and was
supported by Mr. Laden. Motion carried 6-0.
IV. OPEN MIKE
Chair Rafferty declared open m i ke open at 6:35 p.m .
There was no one present for Open Mike
Mr. Pogalz m a de a MOTION to close Open Mi ke at 6:36 p.m., and was supported by Mr.
Hyden. Motion carried 6-0.
APPR OVE D MINUTE S
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V. ACTION ITEMS
A. Final Plat for Legacy at Woods Edge, Village No. 3, located at the SE
intersection of Lake Drive and I-35W
Staff stated that the applicant had submitte d the final plat for Village No. 3, which
encompasses the Legacy at Wood’s Edge proj ect area. The submitted plat depicts three
lots and five outlots.
He indicated the final plat conforms to the preliminary plat layout approved with
Resolution 04-33 by the City Council on Ma rch 8, 2004. The title commitment for the
property and final plat has been forwar ded to the City Attorney for review.
As required by the Development Agreement, the village green is being dedicated as
public park, and outlot C which includes the we tland area will be deeded over to the City.
A trail easement is required on the south side of Lots 1 and 2, but the exact location and
size has not yet been determined by the City’s consulting engi neer for this project.
Staff is recommending that the street names be altered prior to the plat being scheduled
for the City Council. Particularly, the use of the eastern most segment of Town Center
Parkway should be changed to Woods Edge Boulevard, and the existing Woods Edge
Boulevard should be changed to Village Drive. Village Green should be eliminated as
that section is not a full street but rather the south half of what will be Village Drive
divided by the Village Green park which is essentially an enlarged boulevard between
two lanes of traffic.
Staff was recommending approval subj ect to the following conditions:
1. The eastern most segment of Town Ce nter Parkway must be renamed Woods
Edge Boulevard prior to this item being scheduled by the City Council.
2. Woods Edge Boulevard must be renamed as an extension of Village Drive prior
to this item being scheduled for the City Council.
3. Village Green must be renamed as an extens ion of Village Drive prior to this item
being scheduled for the City Council.
Chair Rafferty asked if the righ t angles of the roads being pr oposed were a benefit or a
detriment to this development. Mr. Bengtson replied this did conform to the Master Plan
that had been approved and the plans had been reviewed by the Consulting Engineer.
Mr. Studenski replied those we re the right-of-way areas so it did not imply specifically
that the roads would be applied in that way. He stated they would soften the radiuses if
necessary, but they felt confident this proposal would work.
Mr. Pogalz made a MOTION to recommend approval of the Final Plat for Legacy at
Woods Edge, Village No. 3, located at the SE intersection of Lake Drive and I-35W
subject to the conditions as noted in st aff’s May 11, 2005 report and was supported by
Mr. Tralle. Motion carried 6-0.
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B. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING for a Conditional Use Permit
Amendment to allow for an awning at Rehbein Transit, 6298 Hodgson Road
Chair Rafferty continued the Public Hearing at 6:43 p.m.
Staff stated Rehbein Transpor tation is proposing an 8 foot x 100 foot awning addition to
the north side of the existi ng facilities at 6298 Hodgson Road. The Rehbein property is
covered by a conditional use permit for the exis ting bus transit center. Building additions
much as those proposed in this application require an amendment to the Conditional Use
Permit.
Construction of the addition was begun prior to the issuance of the appropriate building
permits or this applicatio n and was stopped by the City’s Building Department. No
further construction has taken place after the first warning was issued by a building
inspector.
Under the new zoning ordinances, the site plan review is done administratively.
However, a Conditional Use Permit amendment is necessary, and a site plan review is
part of the CUP review.
Because this application invol ves the CUP amendment, it is also appropriate to review
the conditions placed on the site th rough the last CUP amendment in 1999.
This application was continued at the Apr il 13, 2005 regular meeting so the applicant
could be present to answer questions in regards to future plan s for the site as well as the
intended use of the canopy addition.
Staff recommended approval of the CU P subject to the following conditions:
1. Construction must comply with the require ments of the Centennial Fire department,
including the connection of the existing buildings to municipal water for fire
sprinkling.
2. A performance agreement between the City and the developer must be executed prior
to the issuance of any building permits for the subject site.
3. A lighting plan in conformance with the zoning code must be submitted for review
and approval by staff prior to the issuance of building permits.
4. The proposed addition is subject to double permit fees as construction was begun
prior to the issuance of any building permits.
5. No outdoor storage of materials shall be allowed under the canopy.
Mr. Nelson stated he did not believe the a pplicant was in compliance with the lighting
requirements. Mr. Bengtson replied they di d not have a lighting plan to review to
determine if those lights were a part of the last CUP, or if they were already in existence.
Mr. Nelson stated he understood that all ligh ting needed to be directed downward and
this had not been done. Mr. Be ngtson replied he was not sure how this was enforced at
the time, but they were given a Certif icate of Occupancy for the building.
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Chair Rafferty noted condition three addressed the lighting. He aske d if a lighting plan
would be submitted. Mr. Bengtson replied th ey were only looking at this addition and
not the entire site. He stated staff would not typically retroa ctively review the entire site.
Mr. Tralle noted this had been tabled for a month and it gave appli cant the opportunity to
come into compliance with the conditions, whic h he did not do. He indicated he was not
comfortable approving this because he had not met the conditions of the first CUP,
including fire sprinkling. Mr. Bengtson repl ied that the applicant had indicated there
would not be additional lighting with this pr oposal and they were going to comply with
the fire sprinkling requirement.
Mr. Tralle noted recommendation three was the same in this request as it was in the
previous CUP.
Mr. Root stated he had the same concerns previously mentioned. He asked if it was
appropriate to review the performance of the current situation versus the requirements of
the 1999 CUP to see if there were any violati ons to the previous conditions before they
moved forward. Mr. Bengtson replied the Boar d could look at the pr evious situation if
they wanted.
Mr. Root asked if the Board could add the previous conditions to the proposed new
conditions. Mr. Bengtson repl ied that could be done.
Mr. Pogalz asked if the applicant would be reimbursed for any co st associated with
obtaining a photometric plan if it was determin ed the lighting was in compliance. Mr.
Bengtson stated that the app licant would not be reimbursed.
Chair Rafferty invited applicant to make comment.
Reid Rehbein, 6298 Hodgson Road, stated the lighting was already there and he did not
see any reason for a lighting plan.
Mr. Laden asked if he understood the reside nts had problems with their lighting. Mr.
Rehbein replied they had not ha d complaints since they had angled the lighting down. He
asked if they wanted to change the lighting.
Mr. Laden replied the Board want ed to review the lighting.
Mr. Tralle stated he understood they had light s going into the resi dential properties and
they needed to bring these lights into complia nce. Mr. Rehbein replied he could tear the
lights down, but noted he did not know the re sidents had a problem with the lights. He
stated he has not had a complaint in 8 years.
Mr. Nelson stated he lived in the neighborhood and there were a lot of complaints that he
has heard. He stated he did not believe th e lights were aimed downward, but were aimed
outward.
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Mr. Rehbein stated if the City had received co mplaints, they were never conveyed to him.
He indicated he could take the lights down and place them on the edge of the property
facing inward. Mr. Nelson replied he believed that would solve the lighting issue.
Mr. Laden asked what was the purpose and inte nt of the awning. Mr. Rehbein stated they
had a smaller awning and they wanted a ne w awning to cover the drain oil tank and
electrical box to protect them from the elem ents. He stated the new awning would keep
the ice and snow off of the tank and electrical box. He indicated there would not be
anything stored under the awning excep t the tank and el ectrical box.
Mr. Pogalz asked what the Fire Department said about not having a concrete containment
system on the tank. Mr. Rehbein replied it was a double walled tank and it was in
compliance with all of the State Codes, as well as it being on a concrete slab.
Mr. Pogalz asked if he was willing to take down the existing lighting and replace it with
new lighting. Mr. Rehbein replied he was willing to do that and it would not be an
expensive proposition to do that.
Mr. Laden asked if the lights would be shie lded. Mr. Rehbein stated he did not know
this, but they were rectangular boxes.
Mr. Nelson noted there was a light on the south side of the property that was not shielded
that he wanted a shield put on.
Mr. Bengston stated staff would work with a pplicant to submit a lighting plan that would
be in compliance with City standard s prior to the City Council meeting.
Mr. Laden stated the City Comprehensive Plan stated it was the intent to eventually
relocate this business. He asked if Mr. Rehbe in had been informed of this. Mr. Rehbein
replied he had heard of this proposal, but he did not have any further information and
they had no immediate plans to move at this time.
Mr. Hyden asked if Mr. Rehbein had any pr oblem with staff’s recommendations. Mr.
Rebhein replied he had no issues with th e conditions and they would meet them,
including hooking up the fire sprinkling system.
Chair Rafferty invited anyone for or ag ainst this CUP to make comments.
There were no further comments made.
Mr. Laden made a MOTION to close the pub lic hearing at 7:12 p.m. and was supported
by Mr. Hyden. Motion carried 6-0.
Mr. Hyden asked if they needed to add a number six addressing the lighting. Mr.
Bengtson revised condition number 3 to read: Prior to this item being scheduled for the
City Council a lighting plan for the entire site must be submitted for review.
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Mr. Root revised condition 2 to read: A performance agreement with appropriate
financial sureties between the City and the developer must be executed prior to the
issuance of any building perm its for the subject site.
Mr. Root made a MOTION to recommend approval of a Conditional Use Permit
Amendment to allow for an awning at Rehbe in Transit, 6298 Hodgson Road, subject to
the conditions as noted in staff’s May 11, 2005 report and was supported by Mr. Nelson.
Motion carried 6-0.
C. PUBLIC HEARING for a PUD Develo pment Stage Plan/Preliminary Plat
approval for Settings of Woods Edge, located in the Legacy at Woods Edge,
at the SE intersection of Lake Drive and I-35W
Staff stated the Community Development De partment received an application for a
Development Stage Plan/Preliminary Pl at for 157 unit condominium (townhome)
development in the Legacy of Wood’s Edge master plan area sout h of 35W and east of
Lake Drive. This application was added to the agenda at that time so the appropriate
public notices could be made in the newspaper as well as to the surrounding property
owners.
In the time following the notifications, City staff has had more time to review the
application materials and it was determined th at not only is the application incomplete,
there are also significant issues in regards to meeting the development standards for the
site.
Staff has sent a letter outlining the information that is still needed to complete the
application, as well as th e large number of issues that still need to be worked out prior to
scheduling this item for another Planning a nd Zoning Board meeting. Therefore, the 120
day review period has not begun and will not be an issue in the ongoing review of the
project.
As soon as the application is complete and ready for review it will be added to the next
available Planning and Zoning board meeting ag enda. Staff is therefore, recommending
that this item be tabled w ithout opening the public hearing or any discussion before the
Board.
The Board tabled this item.
D. PUBLIC HEARING for an Amendment to Planned Unit Development and
Preliminary Plat for Marketplace Third Addition, located at the NE corner
of Lake Drive and Apollo Drive
Chair Rafferty opened the pub lic hearing at 7:17 p.m.
Staff stated Ryan Companies is propos ing to amend the existing Planned Unit
Development (Planned Development Overlay) for the Marketplace to combine what was
originally planned and platted (T he Marketplace) as four lots with individual commercial
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buildings into two lots. Lot 1 would th en be developed with a 14,000 square foot
commercial building and Lot 2 would be reserved for two future users.
This request requires amending the existing Pl anned Unit Development to allow different
building types and site layouts to be used. The request also requires a new Development
Stage Plan/Preliminary Plat and eventually Final Plat to change the lot configuration.
The focus of the application will be the building for Lot 1, however, periodically
references will be made to the buildings on Lo t 2 since they will need to be appropriately
addressed in the design standards for their future development.
Staff presented their analysis and reco mmended approval subject to the following
conditions:
1. The site plan must be revised to include a landscape/pedestrian circulation island in
the middle of the double parking aisle for Lot 1.
2. A minimum of six shade trees must be adde d to the west side of the building along
the street.
3. The architectural design standa rds approved as a part of this application must be
supplied to each incoming tenant upon signature of a lease.
4. A development agreement must be executed between the developer and the City prior
to the execution of a final plat for the site.
5. Appropriate drainage and utility easeme nts must be shown on the final plat.
6. All lighting fixtures used on the site mu st be in conformance with the design
standards.
7. The trash enclosure must be large en ough to house both trash receptacles and
recycling receptacles.
8. The trash enclosure must be constructed w ith the same materials as the proposed
building.
9. The decorative lighting for this site a nd all other develope d sites within the
Marketplace must be installed prior to th e issuance of a certificate of occupancy for
the multi-tenant building on Lot 1.
10. The elevations must be enhanced with a stronger cornice element along the entire
roof line.
11. The sunshade device proposed for the building must be similar in style to that of the
example submitted for the North Carolina project, but shall be limited to three foot
maximum extension from the face of the building.
12. The applicant must submit a revised plan set prior to the scheduling of this item for
the City Council that incorporates all of the changes required by these conditions of
approval.
Mr. Root asked how the sidewalks would connect to the other portions of the site. Mr.
Bengtson responded the entire building was surrounded by a sidewalk in addition to
adding a sidewalk for the people who pa rked on the far side of the building.
Mr. Root asked if someone could park in one place and get around without it being
dangerous for them.
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Mr. Laden noted this site was in the middle of the other retail sites and he believed it was
the original intent to connect everything w ith sidewalks. Mr. Bengston replied staff
could work with the applicant to make this a pedestrian friendly site.
Mr. Root stated they needed to have pedestrian connections and without that he could not
vote in favor of this.
Mr. Pogalz stated he would also like a pedestrian walk along the auto service and
restaurant portion of the site. Mr. Bengts on stated that the layout would be reviewed
when the site plan was presented and pedestri an walkways could be added at that time.
Mr. Laden asked what prompted the change in direction from the original site concept.
Mr. Bengtson replied he would ask a pplicant to answer that question.
Chair Rafferty invited applicant to make comment.
Steve Broyer, Civil Engineer for applicant, stat ed they agreed with the linking of Kohls to
the retail site and he did not believe there w ould be any issues with that. He stated he
also did not have any problems linking the auto service and restaurant to this
development. He noted they were relocating the storm sewer, but this would be an issue
to be required the six to seven over story tree s over the sewer system . He asked if they
could have that requirement removed from the conditions.
Mr. Tralle noted on the origin al plan, pedestrians could go building to building and it was
more of a better flow. He stated he liked th e front of the building, but he did not like the
back of the building facing the way it was. He indicated he liked the concept of smaller
buildings, rather than one larger strip mall. He stated he did not like this plan.
Mr. Laden asked what had changed the concept of this site to this strip mall. Mark
Kampmeyer, Ryan Companies, stated the orig inal plan had six buildings, but they had
come to the conclusion that there were not e nough tenants to fill these buildings, so they
reduced the size of the development and were proposing one strip mall. He noted market
change was what drove this site plan. He asked if they could have some kind of
landscape considerations to hide the back of the building. He stated that he understood
their concerns with the building.
Mr. Tralle expressed concern that this building was faci ng backwards and the tenants
might have issues with signage. He noted th ey should not be looking at the back end of
buildings when they were on a busy street.
Mr. Laden stated he did not ha ve a problem combining the bu ildings, but they needed to
look at a different model for this site. He stated he would like to see store fronts on both
sides, such as what they had at The Village in Blaine. He believed this type of a design
would work on this site. He noted if they ha d some type of this design, he would be in
favor of this, but as it was being proposed, he could not support it.
Mr. Tralle noted even if they had some type of a center area, it woul d be better than what
was being proposed.
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Mr. Kampmeyer noted there had to be a back of the building somewhere, but they could
look at options. He noted no matter which way they faced the building someone would
have to look at the back of it.
Mr. Tralle asked what types of businesses th e tenants would be. Mr. Kampmeyer replied
hair care, services uses (dental, medical), food services, etc.
Chair Rafferty asked them to be creative in their design. He not ed Lake Drive was
important and the back of the building should not face Lake Drive. Mr. Kampmeyer
stated The Blaine Village had a number of big box retailers, so sm aller retailers were
more willing to fill in the gaps. He noted The Marketplace was quite a bit smaller in
scope and its drawing power, so it was difficult to design the same type of buildings as
The Blaine Village had because the smaller tena nts did not want to pay for the expense of
having two storefronts. He indicated they wanted to work with the Board.
Mr. Hyden suggested they “fold the building in half” so there were businesses on both
sides. He stated they did not want to look at a long back of a building. He noted
businesses on both sides would be different, so they would not have two store fronts. He
indicated as the mass started accumulating, they would have additional space to add
another building.
Mr. Laden stated they needed to look at a different model of a strip mall than what was
being proposed. He indicated the building was attractive, but a diffe rent model was more
appropriate to this site.
Mr. Hyden understood a business having two stor efronts was expensive for a tenant. Mr.
Kampmeyer stated all of these ideas we re good and he would have his architect
investigate these comments and see if th ey can come up with a better proposal.
Mr. Pogalz stated the only function the back of the building serv ed as egress and he
believed they could “fold the building” with a center corridor. He stated The Blaine
Village worked well because the stores were anchored either on one end or both ends
with a restaurant, or other major retail ar ea. He noted by having a restaurant the key
tenant at one end, he believe d this proposal could work.
Chair Rafferty believed Mr. Hyden’s suggestion was a good one and there was a lot of
merit to that suggestion. He noted the City n eeded to understand that if they were patient,
they would have a much stronger market place. He stated it was important to get the
trash facility inside the building and not have it a freestand ing structure also.
Mr. Laden stated one of the things that ma de The Blaine Village successful was that it
was pedestrian friendly and that element had to be added back to this site plan. Mr.
Kampmeyer stated they would look at their pl an again and see what options they had.
Mr. Tralle stated he persona lly liked the building, but not in this location.
Chair Rafferty invited anyone for or against the PUD to make comment.
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There were no further comments made.
Mr. Pogalz stated applicant s hould look at the whole site al so, including the restaurant
and auto service site to determine those uses.
Mr. Hyden suggested they flip flop the restaurant site a nd the auto service site.
Mr. Laden made a MOTION to continue th e public hearing and was supported by Mr.
Hyden. Motion carried 6-0.
E. PUBLIC HEARING for a Conditional Use Permit for Northern Lights Car
Wash, located at 7990 Lake Drive
Staff stated the Community Development De partment received an application for a
Conditional Use Permit for an automated car wa sh on the southeast corner of Lake Drive
and Main Street. This application was deemed to be complete and was added to this
agenda at this time. The public hearing was noticed and printe d in the appropriate
newspaper outlet and mailings were se nt to surrounding property owners.
The applicant, Kevin Irlbeck, has now reque sted that this application be tabled
indefinitely to do further study on the feasibility of the project. He has granted the City
an indefinite extension of time on the application, so staff is in agreement with the
request of the applicant.
The applicant will need to inform the City in writing of his decision to either continue
with this application or withdr aw it from consideration. If he chooses to continue with
the request, it will then be added to the next available Planning and Zoning Board
agenda.
The Board indefinitely tabled this item.
F. Final Plat for Angie’s Acres , Al Powers, 290 Elm Street
Staff stated A and J Propertie s have requested approval of a single-family residential
development entitled Angie’s Acres. The s ubject property is adjacent to the southeast
corner of Elm Street and Rice Lake Lane and is currently developed with one single-
family dwelling which will remain.
The final plat conforms to the preliminary plat layout approved with Resolution 05-29 by
the City Council on March 14, 2005. The title commitment for the property and the final
plat has been forwarded to the City Atto rney for review and are acceptable.
All conditions of approval from the pr eliminary plat will be met through the
Development Agreement and building permit review processes.
Mr. Pogalz made a MOTION to recommend approval of Final Pl at for Angie’s Acres, Al
Powers, 290 Elm Street, and was supporte d by Mr. Tralle. Motion carried 6-0.
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VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. AUAR Update
Staff updated the Board on the AUAR.
B. Temporary Signs
Staff recommended the Board come to agreement on pennants and miscellaneous
signage.
Mr. Nelson noted there was at least one busines s in town that had tattered pennants and it
was an eyesore, so he believed they did need to be regulated.
Mr. Laden asked if there was a way to not regu late them, but to state the pennants needed
to be maintained and in good repair. Mr. Nelson indicated that would be acceptable.
Chair Rafferty stated in his personal opinion he would like to see pennants eliminated.
Mr. Laden asked if the City wrote an ordi nance regulating pennants, would the current
businesses using pennants need to comply with the ordinance. Mr. Smyser replied those
businesses would need to comp ly with the ordinance.
Mr. Hyden stated he believed there was a c onflict between pennants and banners. Mr.
Smyser replied it was easy to dist inguish between the two visually.
Mr. Laden stated in his opi nion, the pennants would not ha ve lettering on them. Mr.
Hyden asked at what point would as pennant become a sign.
Mr. Laden replied if the pennant had lettering on it, it would be a sign.
Mr. Pogalz stated it was hi s understanding from the Board that pennants would be okay
as long as they were maintained and had no lettering on them.
Mr. Laden agreed if the pennant contained letters, it would be considered a sign and not a
pennant.
Mr. Tralle asked if they needed to li mit the number of pennants allowed.
Mr. Laden asked if they could have different regulations in different zones and if so,
when would they address this issue. Mr. Smyser replied they could have different
regulations in different zone s and he had not thought about when or if they should
address this issue. He stated he would like the Board to leav e this issue to the staff when
it came to a final draft.
Mr. Laden stated he could go either way on th e pennants, but he did see some appropriate
uses for pennants.
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Mr. Hyden noted many cities simply banned pennants.
Chair Rafferty asked for recommendations. He indicated he was not in favor of pennants.
Mr. Hyden made a MOTION to prohibit penna nts altogether and was supported by Chair
Rafferty. Motion carried 4-3. (Root , Pogalz, and Tralle opposed).
Mr. Smyser asked the Board what they wanted to do with respect to miscellaneous
signage on commercial busi nesses. He stated sta ff recommended prohibiting
miscellaneous signed altogether.
Mr. Laden agreed these types of signs should be prohibited on commercial businesses.
Mr. Nelson asked if this would include the “A” type frame signs. Mr. Smyser replied this
would not include those types of signage and th ey would address those types of signs at a
later date.
Mr. Laden noted they needed to narrow down the wording on “other non-permanent
signs”. Mr. Smyser stated he would work on that wording.
Mr. Tralle made a MOTION to prohibit all signage on pylon signs, temporary stakes, and
posts and was supported by Mr. Root.
Mr. Pogalz stated he believed if they banned pennants then these ot her small signs also
needed to be banned.
Mr. Laden noted the distinction in his mind was that pennants did not “speak” because
they had no words. He noted his only con cern what where they were going with what
they were made of because he believed some metal signs, or weathe r resistant signs could
be allowed.
Mr. Tralle withdrew his motion a nd Mr. Root withdrew his second.
Mr. Laden made a MOTION to di rect staff to write up an ordinance banning these types
of signs with more clarification as to de finitions and was supported by Mr. Root. Motion
carried 6-0.
Mr. Smyser stated at the next meeting th ey would be discussing real estate and
development signs.
C. CSAH 49/County Rd J Study
Staff updated the Board on CSAH 49/County Rd J.
D. VFW
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Chair Rafferty noted they had received a le tter from Bert and Deb Noren, 785 Lois Lane,
regarding some issues they had with the VF W including noise, stre et parking, garbage,
and the proposed helicopter in the north parking lot.
Mr. Smyser stated he had spoken with the bui lding official about these concerns. He
indicated with respect to the noi se by the fans, there was a si x-foot privacy fence in place
and he did not know what else they could do about that, but he w ould look into this.
With respect to the parking on the street, th e issue was that the pa rking lot on the south
side of the building was not finished and th is was something they would ask the VFW to
finish. With respect to the garbage, they would talk to the VFW about this and all
garbage needed to be enclosed. With resp ect to the helicopter, the VFW had inquired
about putting a nonfunctioning helicopt er on the site. He stated they had received from
the Department of Defense a helicopter, which would be mounted on a pole over the
pond. He stated the VFW did not need permi ssion for his helicopter and there were no
City regulations not allowing it. He noted the VFW had asked permission for this
helicopter, but the City had no regulations to deny it.
Chair Rafferty requested all of the Board member s view the site prior to the next meeting
and come back with their questions and aske d staff for a site plan of this site.
Mr. Tralle stated the Mueller building was faced backwards also and did not face Lake
Drive. He noted Mueller also had a pile of dirt in the City ’s right-of-way that needed to
be removed. He stated at the distribution cen ter there were huge p iles of dirt and those
needed to be removed. He indicated they need ed to address sites such as these to make
sure they were cleaned up.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Hyden made a MOTION to adjourn the m eeting at 9:41 p.m., and was supported by
Mr. Laden. Motion carried 6-0.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathy Altman, Recording Secretary
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