HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/13/2003 P&Z MinutesAPPROVED MINUTES
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONI NG BOARD MINUTES
I.CALL TO ORDE R AND ROLL CALL
Chair Schaps called the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board meeting to order at 6:36
p.m., August 13, 2003.
II.APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved.
III.APPROVAL OF MINUTES: July 9, 2003
Mr. Corson made a MOTION approve the July 9, 2003 Minutes and was supported by
Ms. Tralle. Motion carrie d 4-0-2 (Mr. Lyden and Chair Schaps abstained).
IV.OPEN MIKE
Chair Schaps declared open mike open at 6:37 p.m.
There was no one present for Open Mike
Ms. Lane made a MOTION to close Open Mike at 6:38 p.m., and was supported by Mr.
Lyden. Motion carried 5-0.
V.ACTION ITEMS
A.GEORGE AND LYNN FERNSTROM, 6340 RED MAPLE LANE
Staff stated applicants woul d like to construct a second, detached garage, but such a
proposed garage would have to be sited in fr ont of the home due to placement of a septic
DATE: August 13, 2003
TIME STARTED: 6:36 P.M.
TIME ENDED: 1:28 A.M., August 14, 2003
MEMBERS PRESENT: Corson, Hyden (arrived at 10:13 p.m.), Lane,
Lyden, Rafferty, Schaps, and Tralle.
MEMBERS ABSENT: None.
STAFF PRESENT: Jeff Smyser ; Michael Grochala; and James
Studenski; Tanda Gretz
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system. Staff noted the Zoning Ordinance allowed for such placement of an accessory
building in the Rural zone, but stipulated that it should be set back from the street right-
of-way at least 100 feet. The proposed ga rage could only accommodate a setback of 58
feet, however, due to the location of the septic system, so the appli cants were requesting a
variance. Staff reviewed the five findings of fact for a variance and indi cated hardship
could be demonstrated in this instance by the location of the septic system. Staff stated
the septic mound precluded the proposed garage from being sited in an area that would
satisfy ordinance requirements. In this wa y, hardship could be demonstrated and staff
would recommend approval of the requested variance.
Chair Schaps invited appl icant to make comment.
George Fernstrom, 6340 Red Maple Lane, stated their septic system failed last year and
was replaced. He stated they now wanted to put in a garage, but the septic system was in
the way. He noted no neighbors had expressed concerns or objected to this proposal.
Mr. Rafferty made a MOTION to recomme nd approval of a variance for a second,
detached garage with a setback of 58 f eet, as outlined by staff’s August 13, 2003 report
and was supported by Ms. Lane. Motion carried 5-0.
B.PUBLIC HEARING – Bruggeman Propert ies, SE Corner of Birch St. and
Hodgson Road., Rezone, Preliminary Plat/Planned Unit Development,
Conditional Use Permit
Chair Schaps opened the public hearing at 6:44 p.m.
Staff reviewed their August 13, 2003 report a nd reviewed the unresolved issues that
needed to be addressed further.
Staff recommended continuing the public hear ing or close the public hearing and table
the application to allow for resolution of the issues.
Mr. Lyden asked how much increase in traffic would there be from Hodgson Road north
of County Road J. Mr. Smyser replied there would be 152 homes
Mr. Lyden pointed out that there was the pos sibility of 500-600 addi tional traffic trips a
day. Mr. Smyser noted the problem with th e intersection was at the peak hours, not
generally during the day.
Mr. Lyden stated he disagreed with the traffi c figures staff was givi ng. He believed there
would be more than 28 cars ad ded to this intersection.
Mr. Rafferty asked if there would be a tra ffic light at Ware and Birch. Mr. Smyser
replied that was correct.
Mr. Tralle asked when were the road im provements proposed to be done. Mr. Smyser
replied the road improvements would have to be done as a part of this project.
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Mr. Grochala stated previously the C ity and County had disagreed on the road
improvements and the funding was used elsewhere. He stated what has transpired since
that time is that it was decided some impr ovements were needed and in November, 2002
road design plans were given to Anoka C ounty. He stated Anoka County had reviewed
the plans and had made suggestions. He indica ted they had received a letter of credit to
cover Spirit Hills share of the improvements, with the rest of the funds coming from this
development. He stated Anoka County had ag reed to help fund the signalization of the
intersection. He noted in order to get the rest of the project done, they needed this project
to be approved.
Mr. Rafferty asked if the taxpayers would pick up any of the cost. Mr. Grochala replied
they would not. If anything, if they needed to fill some gaps, it would come out of the
State Aid account, so no specific taxpayer dollars would pay for this improvement.
Mr. Tralle asked if the people living on Hodgson Road would be able to exit right or left
out of their driveways. Mr. Grochala replie d there would be no divider in the Road and
the homeowners would have full access both ways.
Mr. Corson asked if there was a concern a bout people trying to cross at Ware Road
during rush hour hours. Mr. Studenski stat ed they were improving the situation by
aligning the two roadways instead of having them offset.
Mr. Grochala noted with the signalization of Birch and Hodgson there would be gaps of
traffic.
Mr. Lyden asked if there would be any tra ffic control at Ware Road and Birch. Mr.
Grochala stated there would be stop signs, but in order to get a four way stop or a signal,
there were requirements that needed to be met and at this time, that intersection did not
meet those requirements, but they would be watching this area.
Chair Schaps invited appl icant to make comment.
Greg Schlink, 6564 Rollingview Drive, Bruggema n Properties, stated they could review
the issues now or comment after the public comments.
Chair Schaps invited anyone for or ag ainst the proposal to make comment.
Perry Laden, 6425 Hodgson Road, stated he was glad to see the changes with respect to
the commercial aspect and what they were proposing now was much more suitable for
the neighborhood. He stated they had done a nice job of transitioning between low and
medium density and he asked for the same consideration along the Hodgson side. He
expressed concern regarding the architecture and elevations of the townhomes. He noted
this would be a highly visibl e project and the image of it would have an impact on the
City and he hoped the City would want a qua lity project. He stated he believed the
proposed businesses fit better for a neighbo rhood business instead of a limited business
and encouraged a rezoning. He stated he di d not know if this development rose to the
expectations of neighborhood focal point and he asked the City to consider making the
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park a public park. He stated there were no playgrounds within a reasonable distance for
the children in the neighborhood.
Diane Lange, 6449 Hokah Drive, stated she was concerned about the traffic issues,
especially around the Arrowhead area. She st ated the image of the City of Lino Lakes
was not represented by this medium density townhome development. She stated she had
moved to the City because of the open spac e and she stated she was worried about the
overpopulation of the area, as well as the increases in tra ffic, and the pollution. She
asked them to look at the area and asked if the townhomes fit into the look of the area.
Mr. Lyden stated he would like to se e a development without the PUD.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to close the public hearing 7:57 p.m., and was supported
by Mr. Lyden. Motion carried 5-1 (Lyden).
Greg Schlink, Bruggeman Properties, stated they had made adjustments to this plan for a
lower use on the commercial property. He stated he believed the plan they were
presenting now was a good plan that f it into the City’s requirements.
Mr. Tralle stated he wanted this devel opment have the look and feel of a neighborhood.
He stated while he agreed this project was a great improvement over the original plan, he
wanted to see a variety of color in the si ding and shingles. Mr. Schlink reviewed the
types and colors of materials they were proposing to use for this development.
Mr. Schlink stated he would like to come back with more detail on the exterior materials
and colors to see if it would meet with th e Board’s requirements. Chair Schaps also
expressed concern about having all of the townhomes look the same.
Mr. Schlink stated they would change the el evations to address the Board’s issues.
Mr. Corson asked about the private park vers us a public park. Mr . Schlink replied the
Park Board’s concern was that there was not enough public access to the park.
Mr. Corson asked if the park would be m onitored. Mr. Schlink replied it would be
private property and it would be up to the To wnhome Association as to how it would be
enforced. He stated they did not have a ny problem with the park being public and they
would be willing to have it as a public park.
Mr. Corson noted there was not another park in the area and it would be nice to have a
park for the residents. Mr. Lyden pointed out this would be consistent with the
comprehensive plan to have a neighborhood focal point if the park was public.
Chair Schaps asked how they could recommend a public park if the Park Board
recommended against it. Mr. Smyser replie d the Park Board had a serious discussion
regarding this and if it were going to be a public park, the Board was not comfortable
with the design of the park. He noted it was an isolated area and it was not a space
conducive to public use. He stated if there were going to be a pub lic park on the site, it
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would need to be set up differently. He noted this park did not fit into the Park Board
plan.
Mr. Grochala stated staff w ould explore the option of a publ ic park with design changes.
He stated they would bring this back to the Park Board for their thoughts.
Mr. Lyden stated this development needed a pl ace for kids to play. He noted this type of
a development was an unhealthy development for kids. He strongly recommended the
park be made public.
Mr. Corson asked if there were issues with drainage because of all of the bituminous in
the area. Mr. Studenski replied they woul d install reverse grade pipes, which would
handle any runoff.
Peter Hillger, Portfolio Design Services, reviewed the commercial site.
Mr. Rafferty stated he unders tood there was a certain degr ee of give and take and he
believed the developers tried to do a good job at giving for this development. He stated
he believed the developer had come a tr emendous way since their first proposal. He
indicated he liked all of th e trails through the development and the sidewalk around the
development. However, he expressed concer n about all of the r ooftops, bituminous, and
driveways. He stated he did not be lieve there was anything innovative in the
development itself. He stated they had maximi zed this land to the best of their ability to
put as many units as possible. He noted he was not in favor of going forward on this
development at this time based on its architectu ral standards. He stated he would like 3-4
units per acre instead of the proposed 6 units per acre. He indicated he did not want to
see Lino Lakes look like Woodbury. He tha nked the developer for addressing some of
the Board’s issues, but he was not in favor of this development at this time. He suggested
110 to 120 maximum units. He stated he di d not want to see the 8 units along Hodgson
Road. He suggested 4 units along Hodgson Roa d. He stated he did not like the colors
they were proposing for the exterior. He asked for more variety and innovative design.
Mr. Lyden stated he would like to see a plan without a PUD and he supported Mr.
Rafferty’s suggestions.
Chair Schaps expressed concern about the size of the garages. He noted cars were getting
larger and the City wanted to encourage resident s to keep their vehicles in their garages.
Mr. Schlink stated the development they were proposing was a successful development
from past experience, but they would look at the elevations and more variety in the
colors. However, he noted they would have an issue with decreasi ng the number of units.
He noted they were within the City requirements.
Mr. Rafferty stated he believed they were attempting to maximize this development and
he still wanted to see 3-4 units per acre and not 6 units. He indicated if he had his way,
they would not have more than 3 units per acre.
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Paul Bruggeman, 3565 Willabye Drive, White Bear Lake, stated they were a for profit
business and have been around since 1959. He stated they had a product that residents
wanted in their communities. He stated there was a need in this area for a variety of price
ranges. He stated if they brought this down to 3-4 acres pe r unit, it would bring up the
price of the unit, which would leave out a large market. He stated they have met every
City expectation he knew about. He poin ted out they had more green space than
originally proposed. He stated a townhome was a great product and they needed it in the
City. He stated they were investing a lot of money into this project and were being
required by the City to invest a lot of money into the roads and trails.
Chair Schaps asked them if they could lower the density on the northw est side. He asked
what was the price range of the units. Mr . Bruggeman replied they would be sold for
$165,000.00 to $200,000.00.
Mr. Rafferty stated he had seen Mr. Brugge man’s developments and knew they could
have a more innovate development. He stated he liked green space and he wanted to see
more open space. He indicated this would be a successful development with more green
space. Mr. Bruggeman respectfully disagreed with Mr. Rafferty’s opinion.
Mr. Tralle stated he was not in agreement with Mr. Rafferty’s opinion. He indicated he
wanted to see his children live in the co mmunity and with the home prices going up, they
could not afford to live here. He asked where would the kids in the area live. He
indicated if the City had noth ing to offer the kids that th ey could afford, why would they
want to stay here.
Mr. Rafferty stated he was con cerned about the density. Mr. Tralle stated he wanted to
go on record with disagreeing with Mr. Rafferty.
Ms. Lane stated she liked the development and this was the kind of home that belonged
in that area. She stated this was a good tr ansition into the othe r neighborhoods and she
also disagreed with Mr. Rafferty and Mr. Lyden.
Mr. Corson stated it was important to creat e a good image for the City and asked for
more architectural innovation. He stated he was satisfied with the development if they
could address the concerns with the exterior and the park. He believed this was a good
development for the area.
Mr. Smyser stated he was not uncomfortable with this proposal. He stated they could
work out the exterior buildi ng materials prior to City Council. Park dedication was an
issue and ultimately Council would need to make this decision. He stated regardless of
whether they tabled it or voted on it, th e Council would make the final decision. He
stated he did not see any a dvantage to tabling this and staff would be comfortable
approving this with conditions.
The Board agreed they wanted the park to be public and not private.
Mr. Rafferty suggested a proposal for satisfying his concerns.
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Chair Schaps recessed the meeting at 9:10 p.m. and reconvened at 9:18 p.m.
Mr. Smyser presented the following condi tions of approval for this project:
1.Developer must construct or participate in the improvements to Ware
Road, Birch Street, and Hodgson Roa d, as appropriate, including traffic
signals at Birth and Hodgson intersecti on. Specific costs and participation
shall be determined prior to City Council approval.
2.It must be verified that the propo sed right-of-way dedi cations are adequate
to accommodate the ultimate CSAH 49 roadway improvements prior to
City Council approval.
3.It must be verified that the proposed stormwater ponds will accommodate
the ultimate CSAH 49 roadway impr ovements prior to City Council
approval.
4.Park dedication shall be determined for City Council consideration. It is
the intent of the Planning & Zoning Boar d that the park f acility be public
with the development being consis tent with the comprehensive plan
community focal point.
5.Additional landscaping/screening shal l be added to the commercial site
along Hodgson Road prior to City Council approval.
6.A signage plan shall be prepar ed prior to City Council approval.
7.Exterior lighting fixtures must be 90-degree cutoff fixtures: this shall be
verified prior to City Council approval.
8.Issues discussed in the July 24, 2003 TKDA memo must be addressed to
the satisfaction of the City Engineer.
9.Exterior building materials to be on all sides of the buildings subject to
City Council approval.
10.The garage sizes are to be subj ect to the City Council approval.
Mr. Rafferty stated after further discussion with the developer he agreed they should
move forward with the development as pr esented. He stated while he was not
comfortable with this, he believed the devel oper was attempting to work within the City’s
requirements.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to approve the r ezoning of the residential area to R-3
Medium Density Residential, and the commer cial site to LB Limited Business and was
supported by Mr. Tralle. Motion car ried 3-2 (Rafferty and Lyden).
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Mr. Tralle made a MOTION to approve the preliminary plat/PUD plan with the
conditions as outlined by staff both in their report and at the meeting and was supported
by Mr. Corson. Motion carried 3-2 (Rafferty and Lyden).
Ms. Lane made a MOTION to approve the conditional use permit with the conditions as
outlined by staff both in their report and at the meeting and was supported by Mr. Tralle.
Motion carried 3-2 (Rafferty and Lyden).
Chair Schaps stated he wanted a strong r ecommendation made to the City Council that
the Board wanted the park to be a public park to expand on the urgent need for park
space.
C. PUBLIC HEARING, Roger Hokanson, NE corner of Lake Drive and Aqua
Lane, Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Chair Schaps opened the Public Hearing at 9:24 p.m.
Staff stated applicant has submitted a request for a comprehensive plan amendment. The
subject site is four acres of property at the northeast corner of Lake Drive and Aqua Lane,
adjacent to the existing Marshan Lake Condomin iums. The request is to change the land
use category from Medium Density Resident ial to High Density Residential, which
would be consistent with the adjacent devel opment. Staff reviewed their analysis and
recommended approving the amendment to the comprehensive plan to change the land
use category from Medium Density to High Density, and submit the amendment to the
Metropolitan Council.
Chair Schaps asked if any residents had made comments to staff. Mr. Smyser replied he
had received some calls from residents calling for information only.
Chair Schaps invited anyone for or ag ainst the proposal to make comment.
Bill Gillespie, 624 Aqua Circle, stated he wa s opposed to this because he did not think
the area was ever zoned commercial. He stat ed he has lived in Lino Lakes for 28 years
and they bought on this site so they had a la rger townhome on the lake. He stated there
was a community atmosphere on the property that did not include 32 or 38 townhomes.
He stated they had a lot of issues with Mr. Hokanson. He stated he had a crooked
chimney and Mr. Hokanson has been unresponsive to fixing their concerns. He asked
that they deny this request. He noted it di d not fit what was intended for this area.
Chair Schaps pointed out this had nothing to do with a plan or Mr. Hokanson. Mr.
Gillespie stated he understood this, but he want ed to make the City aware of the issues.
Mr. Rafferty asked if he would be opposed if the development would continue with the
large plexes. Mr. Gillespie re plied he would not be opposed to that as long as it was
consistent with the existing development. He stated they did not want a gas station, a fast
food restaurant, or a large ap artment building. He wanted the ambiance of the area to
continue.
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Steve Butler, 612 Aqua Circle, stated he had a concern regarding th e density. He stated
he did not want to see high density in this area. He indicated he would be agreeable to
the development as long as it was consis tent with the existing development. He
expressed concern regarding tr affic on Lake Drive and Aqua Lane. He encouraged the
builder be involved with upgrading that intersection.
Jim Crawford, President of Marshan Lake Townhome Association, stated they were
concerned about the density and that a larg e apartment complex could be put in. He
stated they had a plat proble m now with the stub street that was put in and stated this
could be a conflict down the road. He st ated the townhome association would have no
objection to a development of the same density and nature as the existing development.
Shelly Supan, 504 Aqua Circle, stated she was not opposed to townhomes being built on
this property, but she was opposed to high density. She stated the townhome she was
currently living in was too small, especia lly the garage, and she would not recommend
the City approve the size of townhome she wa s living in or smaller townhomes in the
future. She stated she did have problem s with this developer and recommended a
different developer build on this site.
Mary Strohmayer, 7178 Ivy Ridge Court, stat ed she was on the Board for Wenzel Farm
Townhomes. She noted they would be opposed to a large apartment complex, but they
would not be opposed to townhomes. Sh e expressed concern about the traffic.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to close the pub lic hearing at 9:45 p.m. and was supported
by Mr. Tralle. Motion carried 5-0.
Ms. Lane pointed out that everything around there was medium density and she did not
believe they should increase the density.
The Board agreed the density should not be increased.
Ms. Lane made a MOTION to deny the amendment to the comprehensive plan to change
the land use survey from Medium Density to High Density and was supported by Mr.
Lyden. Motion carried 5-0.
D.PUBLIC HEARING, Glenn Rehbein, Ma rshan Lake Industrial Park
(formerly known as Lakes Business Park), NE of Blue Heron Elementary
School (West of Lake Drive and East of I-35W), Preliminary Plat
Chair Schaps opened the public hearing at 9:52 p.m.
Staff stated applicant is reque sting Preliminary Plat approval of a four-lot subdivision, to
be sited on 30.6 acres of land for the purposes of developing an industrial park. The
property is located northeast of Blue Heron Elementary School and west of Lake Drive.
Staff reviewed their analysis and recomme nded approval of the Marshan Lakes Industrial
Park with the eleven (11) conditions as noted in staff’s August 13, 2003 report.
Mr. Hyden arrived at 10:13 p.m.
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Mr. Tralle expressed concern about the traffic. He stat ed he would like to see the
development, but asked what was going to happen with the bridge over 35W. Mr.
Grochala replied staff was continuing to work on that, but what ultimately needed to be
done was a total reconstruction of the bridge . He noted the biggest issue was movement
coming off the northbound ramp from 35W. He stated signalization on an interim basis
was needed, which would require realignment of the ramps. He stated this was not the
highest priority bridge with Anoka County, but they were coming up with a package to
present to the County for reconstruction. Howe ver, he noted they did not anticipate the
bridge being reconstructed w ith the next five years.
Mr. Lyden stated there were only three or four places in the City that would support
commercial development and Lake Drive was the place to put commercial development.
He noted this site was too valu able to put an industrial site on it. He stated in 10 to 15
years they would want this to be commercial land. He stated the City might have to be
patient, but the wait would be worth it. Mr. Grochala replied he made a viable point and
this was a piece of valuable land. He stated this land however, had been zoned industrial,
and what was being proposed was consistent wi th the existing zoning. He pointed out the
land north of this development was zoned commercial.
Mr. Lyden replied he realized this, but he be lieved this area should be zoned commercial.
Mr. Corson stated he believed this was a difficu lt site to develop and stated he wanted the
City Engineer to review any plans.
Mr. Rafferty expressed concern about the east elevation and the tr ailers that could be
lined up at the doors. He asked why they needed 30 doors on the visible side of Lake
Drive. Mr. Grochala stated they did not want to put the doors along I-35W either. He
noted what they wanted to do was to put the doors more interior to the site. He pointed
out when Lot 1 developed, there would be addi tional screening to the doors. He stated if
they faced the doors along I-35W, it would be there permanently with no screening, but
once Lot 1 was developed, there would be screening.
Mr. Rafferty expressed concern about the lack of landscaping and the loss of trees. Mr.
Grochala stated this was a concern of the Environmental Board and they would attempt to
preserve as many trees as possible.
Ms. Lane agreed she would like to see this area commercial.
Chair Schaps invited anyone for or ag ainst the proposal to make comment.
Theresa Weinkauf, 7280 Lea Court, stated she owned three properties in Lino Lakes,
including TRW Tax Service off of Lake Drive. She stated when the moved her business
in there and purchased the prop erty, one of the concerns of the Board was that it was safe
for her clients to enter and exit. She stat ed her concern was what was going to happen to
the access to her property with the right turn lane being installed there. She asked if her
driveway was set back far enough and expr essed concern about losing one of her
accesses. She expressed concern about the truc k traffic in the area. She asked how far
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back would the building sit from the propert y line. Mr. Grochala replied what was
proposed was a right turn lane, which woul d taper down. He stated they were not
proposing closing any driveways to the site. He indicated there would be shoulder work
done in that area. He noted what happened down the line with Lake Drive with the
County however, was out of their control.
Ms. Weinkauf expressed concern that both of her accesses would be in a turn lane. Mr.
Grochala stated they would attempt to avoid any impacts to her accesses.
Carl Buchholz, 7417 Lake Drive, asked wher e would the docks be in relation to his
house. He expressed concer n about construction occurri ng 24 hours a day. Mr. Grochala
pointed out where the docks would be in relation to his property.
Mr. Pat Lind, Palico Instruments, Lake Drive, asked what were the plans to get City
water and sewer to him. Mr. Grochala replie d they were getting it up to that point and as
development took place it would be exte nded. He noted the City was committed to
getting a waterman through this area with san itary sewer as needed. He indicated it was
heading that way.
Mrs. Pat Lind, Palico Instruments, Lake Drive, stated she was objecting to the size of the
building as well as the increase of traffic, es pecially truck traffic. She noted if was
difficult to see at the intersection of 35W and Lake Drive. She stated this area needed
traffic control and this was the important issue at the moment. She requested this
development not be put in until the traffic issue was addressed.
Donna Carlson, 6808 East Shadow Lake Drive, stated vision 20/20 indicated this was the
main gateway to the City and the proposed land use and comprehensive plan said this
area was commercial. She noted the City had just established this area as a TIF district.
She stated her main point is traffic and the County’s refusal to reconstruct the Lake Drive
bridge. She stated with the addition of futu re housing, as well as commercial traffic, it
did not make sense to add additional truck tra ffic to Lake Drive. Mr. Grochala pointed
out this area was currentl y zoned light industrial and the proposed land use was light
industrial, and with respect to TIF, the City took action to establish a TIF district. He
noted no commitments have been made to the developer for TIF. He stated staff had
looked at this option for traffi c improvement in this area. He stated Anoka County had
dropped the Lake Drive bridge project becau se of funding limitations and the City not
approving the Hodgson Lake corridor. He stat ed it was his main concern to get this
bridge reconstructed as soon as possible.
Mr. Lyden stated he believed this area should not be a TIF district.
Ms. Weinkauf asked if the State could contri bute to the bridge. Mr. Grochala replied
with the State turn back to the County, it did include some limited dollars for the bridge
project, but the County had utili zed those dollars elsewhere.
Jim Wyatt, 1705 85 th Avenue, Blaine, stated he ow ned a business at 7337 Lake Drive.
He asked if he could waive out of connecting to sewer and water at this time. He stated
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he was not opposed to the project, but he di d not need to hook up to City water and sewer
right now. Mr. Grochala replied it w ould end prior to his property line.
Mayor Bergeson, stated comments by Councilm ember Carlson did not represent the City
Council and requested the Board keep this in mind.
Ms. Carlson stated when she approached the podium, she was not acting as a
Councilmember and she did not introduce hersel f as a Councilmember. She stated she
was expressing her concerns as a l ong time resident of Lino Lakes.
Ms. Lane made a MOTION to close the public hearing at 11:14 p.m. and was supported
by Mr. Corson. Motion carried 6-0.
Chair Schaps invited appl icant to make comment.
Jeff Raduechel, representative of developer, st ated this was not anticipated to be a high
volume industrial operation. He stated the building was a very hi gh quality industrial
building. He noted this would be a substa ntially higher quality buildings then what
existed on the north side of 35W. He noted th ey were being sensitive to the environment
in the area. He noted while this was a la rge building, it would be significantly screened.
He stated when the area was fully deve loped, the impact of the docks would be
minimized.
Mr. Rafferty stated he could appreciate th e comments from the developer and staff
regarding the design and orientation of the building, but he expres sed concern about the
number of dock doors. Jeff Raduechel point ed out the doors would be significantly
screened and they had tried to minimize the impact. He stated the number of docks was
relatively small in comparison to the size of the building. He indicated they chose the
colors to coordinate with the school.
Rob Davidson, Davidson Companies, stated they were not contemplating a 24-hour
operation. This was intended to be a distribu tion facility only. He stated there would be
125-150 employees on the facility and there w ould be low truck traffic volume. He
stated this was an existing busine ss consolidating to a new location.
Mr. Lyden asked what were the hours of operation. Mr. Davidson replied Monday
through Friday from 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. with an occasional ½ day on a Saturday.
Mr. Rafferty asked if there would be a lot of truck retainage at the dock doors. Mr.
Davidson replied the trucks would be in and out of the facility. He stated they did not
own any of the trucks and trucks would not be stored on the facility. He indicated there
might be trucks on the property for a shor t period of time, but not for long periods.
Mr. Lyden asked if they were receiving an y TIF funding on the prop erties they currently
owned. Mr. Davidson replied to his knowle dge there has not been any TIF funding.
Ms. Lane pointed out this was for prelimin ary plat approval only and they were not
approving the business.
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Ms. Lane made a MOTION to approve the Marshan Lakes Industr ial Park with the
eleven (11) conditions as noted in sta ff’s August 13, 2003 report and adding condition
twelve (12) to state and also upon further inve stigation of the drivew ay to the satisfaction
of Ms. Weinkauf’s business and was suppo rted by Mr. Corson. Motion carried 5-1
(Lyden).
Chair Schaps recessed the meeting at 11:40 p.m. and reconvened the meeting at 11:52
p.m.
E.PUBLIC HEARING – Fogarty Investment s, Lino Lakes Sportatorium, West
of 35E and North of Cedar St., Condi tional Use Permit, MUSA Allocation
Chair Schaps opened the public hearing at 11:52 p.m.
Dick Thompson, consultant, stated applicant is proposing to develop part of a 40-acre
parcel located east of Center ville and west of I-94. Sta ff noted applicant was proposing
to use the southern one-third of the parcel for an inflatable bubbl e to house three ice
rinks, a restaurant, a banquet hall, and a pro shop. In addi tion to the bubble, the proposal
includes on-site parking for 462 vehicles. Staff recommended approval of the MUSA
allocation request, the conditi onal use request based upon height requirements and the
restaurant/banquet hall/pro shop subject to th e four (4) conditions as noted in staff’s
August 13, 2003 report.
Mr. Lyden inquired about fire protection in this type of a building. Mr. Thompson
replied there were emergency exits, but ther e were not any extraordinary precautions for
fire protection.
Mr. Hyden asked if the rinks could be ta ken down to play baseball. Mr. Thompson
replied the rinks could be removed.
Chair Schaps invited appl icant to make comment.
Brian Bourassa and Brian Robbie, applicants.
Ms. Lane asked how much heating would there be in the Winter. Mr. Bourassa replied
the heating would be minimal. He noted this was primarily for practice and not games.
In the summer, the boards would come down a nd there would be football, baseball, and
soccer.
Brian Robbie stated the flooring would have refrigerated ice and the refrigeration in the
summer would act as the air conditioner. He stated when the hockey season was over,
they would put down turf for baseball, socce r, football, etc. pr actice and tryouts. He
indicated this type of a facil ity would be in demand and would definitely be utilized. He
stated in the summer, they would have football camps, baseball camps, volleyball, etc.
He stated their busy time would be from October through May, but they would be open
year round. He indicated this would be a nice, well maintain ed facility. He noted the
restaurant would be family-oriented.
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Mr. Lyden asked how old was the dome a nd how long would it last. Mr. Bourassa
replied it was approximately ten years old and should generally last 20 to 25 years.
Mr. Tralle asked if figure skating would be allowed on the hockey rink. Mr. Robbie
replied it would.
Chair Schaps invited anyone for or ag ainst the proposal to make comment.
Mark Fourre, West Cedar St., expressed c oncern regarding maki ng West Cedar a four
lane road. He stated he would like to see them come off of 21 st and build another
driveway. Chair Schaps replied applicants were agreeable to having a driveway off of
21 st .
Mr. Fourre replied they wanted most of the tr affic to come off of 14. He stated he would
like the sidewalk to be on the other side of West Cedar Street, so the sidewalk was not
crossing driveways. He expressed concern re garding the drainage. He expressed concern
about increased traffic along West Ceda r Street, especially late at night.
Maureen Fourre, West Cedar, expresse d concern about the traffic increase.
Connie Duellman, 2162 Cedar Street West, expressed concern about the lack of
information being provided and the lack of representation by th e developer at the
Environmental Board. She expressed concern a bout the size of the dome. She stated this
was a cheap way to put up a structure to ma ke money. She expressed concern about the
buffer and screening. She expressed concern about the entrance off Cedar Street. She
asked if both entrances could come off of 21 st Street and not attach Cedar Street to 21 st
Street. She expressed concern about possibl y being assessed for sewer and water. She
requested the Board deny this request.
Ken Duellman, 2162 Cedar Street West, stat ed he was opposed to this because he
believed it would be of benefit to maybe five percent of the population and it would have
a negative effect on the adjacent property owners.
Mr. Tralle made a MOTION to close the publ ic hearing at 12:40 a.m., and was supported
by Mr. Corson. Motion carried 6-0.
Mr. Bourassa stated he had met with the resi dents in an attempt to explain to them what
this development would entail. He stated they had no problem with the sidewalk on the
other side of Cedar Street. He stated they were proposing a 38-foot wide street on both
Cedar Street and 21 st Street. This would not allow for four lanes to be constructed, but it
would allow for center turn lanes and an on str eet trail system. He noted the bulk of the
drainage off Cedar Street would be pushe d to the north, and once it got past 21 st Avenue
it would be drained toward 20 th Avenue. He stated they would be watching the drainage
issue. He stated that Cedar Avenue would be moved and the residents would be gaining
front yard area. He indicated they had al ways had the banquet hall as a part of this
proposal and he apologized for being unable to attend the Environmental Board meeting.
He stated they would work with staff to get the 40-foot buffer. He noted they would like
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entrances off of Cedar and 21 st . He stated they would meet with each of the residents to
determine where they wanted their services stubbed to their property.
Mr. Robbie stated he believed this facility would be fully utilized and would serve the
entire population. He stated this would not be a cheap operation.
Mr. Lyden made a MOTION to approve a llocation of 38 acres of MUSA and was
supported by Mr. Tralle. Motion carried 6-0.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to approve the Sportatorium as a conditional use with
conditions as noted in staff’s August 13, 2003 report based upon ex ceeding the height
requirements of the City Zoning Ordina nce and was supported by Mr. Lyden.
Mr. Tralle requested under condition number 4 the word “should” be changed to “will”
provide.
Motion carried 6-0.
Mr. Hyden made a MOTION to approve the restaurant/banquet hall/pro shop as a
conditional use with conditions based upon the requirements of the City Zoning
Ordinance and was supported by Mr . Corson. Motion carried 6-0.
F. PUBLIC HEARING, North Suburban Develo pment, Crystal Cove, SW Corner
of Lake Drive and 79 th St., Rezone, Preliminary Plat, Variance
Mr. Lyden left the meeting at 12:51 a.m.
Chair Schaps opened the public hearing at 12:51 a.m.
Staff stated this site was platted as Outlot B when the Highland Meadows East plat was
approved in 1999. The parcel of 0.64 acres is located at the southwest corner of Lake
Drive and 79 th Street. The application involves the rezoning of part of the outlot and a
preliminary plat that covers th e entire outlot. The plat would create three lots: one lot for
a single family detached home, and two lo ts that would accommodate a two-family
attached structure (duplex). The rezoning applies to the two duplex lots. The irregular
shape of the property creates a number of c onstraints that affect the ability to meet
several minimum requirements regarding lot di mensions and area. Staff reviewed their
analysis and recommended approving the rezoni ng of the eastern portion of the site (Lot
2 and Lot 3 on the preliminary plat) from R-1 to R-2; approve variance s: lot depth for all
three lots, lot width and lot area for Lot 2; and approve the preliminary plat for Crystal
Cove with the eight (8) conditions as noted in staff’s August 13, 2003 report.
Ms. Lane asked if there would be some t ype of an agreement between the homeowners
for maintenance. Mr. Smyser replied there would be.
Chair Schaps invited anyone for or ag ainst this proposal to make comment.
There were no comments either for or against this proposal.
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Ms. Lane made a MOTION to close the public hearing at 1:00 a.m., and was supported
by Mr. Tralle. Motion carried 5-0.
Chair Schaps invited appl icant to make comment.
Seth Marshall, Generation Homes, 14601 Krip ton Street, Ramsey, stated they had no
problem shifting the lot lines over and would comply with all of the recommendation and
conditions. He stated all of the siding w ould be vinyl with no painting involved. He
stated these would be si ngle-family owned homes and would not be rentals.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to recommend approval of a rezoning of the eastern
portion of the site (Lot 2 and Lot 3 on the preliminary plat) from R-1 to R-2, and was
supported by Ms. Lane. Motion carried 5-0.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to recommend approva l of the variances: lot depth for all
three lots, lot width and lot area for Lot 2, w ith the specific dimensions to be determined
prior to City Council review, and was s upported by Mr. Hyden. Motion carried 5-0.
Ms. Lane made a MOTION to recommend approval of the preliminary plat for Crystal
Cove, with the eight (8) conditions as listed in staff’s August 13, 2003 report, and was
supported by Mr. Corson. Motion carried 5-0.
G. PUBLIC HEARING, JADT Development, In c., East of Lake Dr. and South of
Apollo Drive, Conditional Use Permit
Chair Schaps opened the public hearing at 1:06 a.m.
Staff stated in September, 2002, the City Council approved the JADT Addition, which
included the creation of four lots for singl e and multiple tenant use on property located
east of Lake Drive and South of Apollo Driv e. Applicant is now requesting site plan
approval for development of Lots 2 and 3. The proposed development consists of two
multi-tenant retail buildings that ar e 13,847 square feet and 3,500 square feet
respectively. Staff noted the smaller buildi ng also consists of a proposed three bay
automobile repair facility. Staff presente d their analysis and recommended approval of
the CUP subject to the twelve (12) condit ions as noted in their August 13, 2003 report.
Chair Schaps invited anyone for or ag ainst this proposal to make comment.
There were no comments either for or against this proposal.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to close the public hearing at 1:10 a.m., and was supported
by Mr. Tralle. Motion carried 5-0.
Applicant was not present to make comment.
Mr. Hyden expressed concern about major auto repairs being made. Mr. Grochala
replied this was being classified as a minor repair facility.
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Mr. Rafferty asked if staff had any concerns about traffic and the garage doors opening
and closing. Mr. Grochala replied staff was comfor table with the proposal.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to recommend appr oval of the CUP subject to the twelve
(12) conditions as noted in staff’s A ugust 13, 2003 report, and was supported by Mr.
Tralle. Motion carried 5-0.
H. PUBLIC HEARING, Woodstone Builders, Inc., Apollo Center, SE corner of
Apollo Dr. and Lilac St., Conditional Use Permit
Chair Schaps opened the public hearing at 1:16 a.m.
Mr. Thompson stated applicant is proposi ng to construct a sm all strip mall of 15,763
square feet on the SE property at the intersec tion of Apollo Drive and Lilac Street. The
Lino Lakes Comprehensive Plan designates this area as commercial. Staff noted
applicant is proposing to construct a small st rip mall on the south end of this triangular-
shaped lot. The mall would include an au to repair shop of approximately 3,100 square
feet with attached retail sp ace to the east of approximately 12,663 square feet. The strip
mall and auto repair business would be located on the back side of the lot with parking to
the north and south. Staff presented thei r analysis and recommended approving the
conditional use permit subject to the condit ions as noted in their August 13, 2003 report.
He stated staff would work with the deve loper on the color scheme of the building.
Mr. Tralle asked if the home located on this property would be removed. Mr. Grochala
replied it would be demolished. He pointed out there would not be two Precision Tune
franchises in this area, even though the pr evious approval also approved a Precision
Tune.
Chair Schaps invited appl icant to make comment.
Charles Skarphol, Woodstone Builders, stated it would be decided by Friday which area
the Precision Tune would be located at.
Chair Schaps inquired about the color of the banding. Mr. Skarphol re plied it would be a
forest green color, not lime gr een as depicted on the drawing.
Chair Schaps invited anyone for or ag ainst this proposal to make comment.
There were no comments either for or against this proposal.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to close the public hearing at 1:25 a.m., and was supported
by Mr. Tralle. Motion carried 5-0.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to recommend approval of the conditional use subject to
the three (3) conditions adding the condition that developer work with staff on the
exterior colors of the bu ilding as noted in staff’s August 13, 2003 report, and was
supported by Mr. Rafferty. Motion carried 5-0.
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VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS
None.
VII.ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Rafferty made a MOTION to adjourn the meeting at 1:28 a.m., August 14, 2003 and
was supported by Ms. Lane. Motion carried 5-0.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathy Altman, Recording Secretary
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