HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/26/2000 Environmental Board MinutesENVIRONMENTAL BOARD MEETING JULY 26, 2000
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
DATE : July 26, 2000
TIME STARTED : 6:34 P.M.
TIME ENDED : 8:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Maurene Davidson, Amy Donlin (arrived at 6:37 p.m.), Scott
Lanyon, Dave Mach, Teresa O'Connell (arrived at 6:38 p.m.),
and Mike Trehus
MEMBERS ABSENT : Rod Kukonen
Staff members present: Environmental Coordinator Marty Asleson and Community Development
Director Brian Wessel (part).
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Lanyon called the meeting to order at 6:34 p.m.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
June 28, 2000 - This item was tabled to ;the August 30, 2000 meeting.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The following items were added to'the meeting agenda:
® Lighting Ordinance Update
The agenda was approved as amended above.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
No comments were made.
PROJECT REVIEW — None.
ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD BUSINESS
A. Commercial Area Landscape Discussion — Asleson reviewed that the Environmental
Board has reviewed several landscape designs for new commercial development areas
coming into the City of Lino Lakes. Recommendations have been made to integrate
native plantings into the landscape design of the projects reviewed. There are sound
ecological reasons behind these recommendations. There is however, the "cultural" part
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of the three-ring model adopted for Conservation Development that needs to be looked at
more closely in the commercial development areas. He advised that recently, staff has
experienced a business community that reflects a different cultural view of landscape
design. He suggested the Board look more closely at this, address the concerns of the
business community, and look at the ecological concerns in relationship to these cultural
views.
Donlin arrived at 6:37 p.m. and O'Connell arrived at 6:38 p.m.
Asleson stated the City needs to look at its site resources and sometimes go beyond the
boarders with historical vegetation types. He stated it seems to him that the important
ecological principals to look at are preserving remnant historic vegetation, types,
protecting and minimizing or eliminating resource impacts, and restoring ecological
systems where the opportunity exists. The principals of "Surface Water Treatment Train"
and water retention/hydro-restoration in conjunction with soil management are very
important issues to look at for the restoration/buffering'and or preservation of
development sites. Water resources are looked at from a flow rate -control standard yet
tremendous additional volumes of water are leaving different sites. Plant communities
that have developed over time are adapted to certain historic water requirements. The
City's lake ecosystems are adapted to certain naturalwater schedules. Asleson explained
the question is how the City can address the cultural landscape design issues of the
business community and at the same time address ecological concerns.
Asleson stated the business coma unity is reacting in way that would express a different
cultural view but he believesall want to be good stewards of the land. He reported on his
conversation with a landscape architectwho supports the use of native plants, has worked
with business community design for 20 years, and agrees their view is different from the
residential view.
Chair Lanyon asked what the Board is being asked to consider.
Asleson presented a map identifying the commercial areas of Lino Lakes and commented
on the types of landscaping at several of the businesses. He noted the business park
section developediby the City over the last several years with traditional landscaping of
sod and irrigation. Asleson then pointed out the areas where the landscaping has been
transitioned with natural plantings.
Chair Lanyon noted that residential developers also have a perception of traditional
landscaping which is similar to that expressed by commercial owners. Asleson agreed.
Asleson stated the landscape architect he spoke with talked about the need to also address
water drainage issues including run-off rates and water quality. He stated the City needs
to be cautious to review models and assure water drainage issues are addressed. He asked
what the Board would like to do with the commercial district properties that do not want
to follow these guidelines.
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Chair Lanyon asked if they are resistant because they do not like the appearance or
because they don't know what to do. Asleson stated it is that as well as the cultural image
of approaching a business and how that should appear.
Donlin stated some business owners may have the impression that natural and prairie
plantings are too "wild" and not conservative enough.
Davidson concurred and noted that natural and prairie plantings can be groomed to have a
more typical business appearance.
Chair Lanyon agreed that nine out of ten business properties have conventional
landscaping and asked how close Lino Lakes is to develop a standardized response to
landscaping in business areas. He suggested a list of natural plantings be developed by
the City so the business community understands what is being requested.
Asleson agreed with the need to identify in the landscape ordinance'what the City wants
to see in the business community.
Chair Lanyon suggested the City be more specific about planting type requirements and
specific guidelines so that information can be'presented to a landscaper and assure it is
implemented.
Asleson stated the other issue that needs to be addressed is surface water, drainage, flows,
and ponding. He explained the business wants something that looks nice and ties
together.
Trehus noted whatever is required in the future needs to blend with the existing landscape
conditions.
Chair Lanyon agreed with the need for consistence today in setting a standard in the hope
that the past landscaping will come along.
Asleson stated he will talk again with the landscaper to see if a policy can be drafted for
development and business landscape designs with the ecological resources being taken
into consideration as well.
Wessel stated the resistance to this new approach is probably universal whether
commercial or residential, and that is not to be unexpected He suggested there could be
more education and a need to better present the vision of the City. He stated the
landscape ordinance is one of a series of ordinances being prepared in concert with the
Comprehensive Plan, which is not yet adopted. Wessel stated the issue is now under
voluntary compliance since it is not yet an adopted ordinance. However, the issue is with
implementation. Wessel stated there is one project where the company became so
discouraged with the weedy environment, that they responded by plowing it under and
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installing irrigation. He noted it should have been better communicated to that company
that the natural vegetation is a several -year process.
Wessel explained that with light industrial, it usually involves smaller companies that
cannot afford a complete professional design team. He stated these companies have been
using a landscaper to help them put together a landscape plan. Wessel stated it has also
been suggested that the City do that for them, but that would have to be further discussed
since the City does not have a professional landscaper on staff.
Chair Lanyon asked how the business community would receive draft design guidelines
and specified plantings. Wessel stated he thinks it would be well received but the
business owner may ask for assistance on implementation. He stated a fmancial incentive
could be offered via TIF to help with the long-term maintenance.
Asleson stated he thinks the business cultural view of landscapes include a certain
specific perception. Wessel stated the City suggested a pilot project in a park as a
demonstration and the City has also worked with a commercial property. However, his
concern is that it does not appear nice so the perception of that concept is not good and
may jeopardize that entire vision.
Asleson reviewed the landscaping with Lakeland Bank and the problem with the
installation of plant materials by a general contractor. He stated the clinic is impatient
with their landscaping but staff has been working with them to add more flowering
plants. He stated the native landscaping on the property next to the clinic is doing very
well.
Wessel stated the only posibti
ve perception is with the landscaping around the City Hall.
He stated it may be beneficial to have a video presentation of what it will look like in
several years to demonstrate the positive final result. He reported on a Council tour of a
native prairie restoration project.
Mach askedif the only plan is for prairie or if it also includes trees. Asleson stated native
trees are also part of .the plan. Mach noted these projects are being started from seed, but
if started from plants it would appear nice much sooner. Wessel stated that is a good idea
and could be. considered.
Trehus agreed that it will be hard to convince the business community to support a native
prairie landscape plan that looks like weeds for the first few years.
Chair Lanyon asked how the City would go about hiring a design/consulting firm to
prepare native landscape plans and a recommendation. Wessel stated that is not budgeted
for now but if it is considered a priority by the Board, he will revisit the budget and see if
it is possible to find funding.
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Donlin suggested the next agenda include an item for discussion with different interested
firms.
Mach stated the DNR has several staff members involved with native plantings and
suggested they be contacted as a resource.
Chair Lanyon agreed and suggested staff contact DNR and Arboretum staff to make a
presentation at the August meeting on what elements the City should include in the plan.
The design/consulting firms can be invited to make a presentation at the September
meeting.
Trehus suggested that information be compiled into a booklet and provided to developers.
Chair Lanyon stated it may be that the City is not seeing all the needs of the commercial
business owners which needs to be specifically addressed to assure the landscape
presentation is attractive to customers of the business. Hestated a design/consulting firm
could assist with developing a general plan and guidelines which can be provided to the
developer. Then, if they want more detailed plans for their specific property, they can
hire their own consultant to do so.
Davidson asked what the City can do to better educate the business community about
these issues. She suggested it would help for staff to have an early conversation with the
owner to explain the surface water issues that need to be addressed. Asleson agreed that
discussion needs to occur during their design process.
Chair Lanyon suggested a seriesof five-year pictures could be displayed to show the
beginning, during, and, end`'landscape appearances. Asleson stated the landscaper he
spoke with made the same suggestion.
Chair Lanyon suggested thata list of successful business sites also be compiled so they
can visualize how it will look.
Mach suggested one of the parks be used as a prototype for the business community. He
also suggested that plants be used rather than seeds to expedite the process.
Donlin commented on the landscaping of a Lake Elmo chiropractic business that contains
a garden and winding pathway to the front door.
Mach stated he also knows of a residential property with prairie landscaping that is
beautiful. He offered to get pictures of examples for light industrial and commercial as
well as depicting the appearance each of the first five years.
Wessel thanked the Board for their input and suggestions on this important issue.
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Chair Lanyon asked staff to communicate with developers that their concern of
appearance is understood by the Board and will be addressed.
Trehus suggested the City envision as a goal the need to address surface water runoff and
storm water treatment. He stated that, as well as the landscaping issue, needs to be
resolved.
Asleson clarified that storm water treatment and management is being addressed now but
the issue of surface water needs to be addressed.
O'Connell asked how the City will respond to the business community since the
information may not be finalized until November. Wessel stated two plans are already in
the works and there is a potential for one more. There are also three to four more projects
that staff will be working with next spring after that information is in place. Until that
time, Wessel stated staff will do the best they can.
B. DNR Project/ Updates - Asleson presented an update on the DNR Wild Land Urban
Interface Project, noting they have not held another meeting since the Environmental
Board's last meeting. He advised their next meeting is scheduled for August 15, 2000 if
anyone is interested in attending.
Asleson also reported on a grant that was received which will cover part of Lino Lakes
and the recent finding of a rare habitat that has been identified.
G. Environmental Education Packett Webpage/Newsletter - Asleson reviewed efforts to
develop the environmental education packet and webpage. He noted the article prepared
by staff for inclusion in the fall issue;>of the Lino Lakes News regarding the website that
the Environmental Board and the Bell Museum of Natural History have collaborated
together to create for; environmentally responsible homeowners. Asleson stated this
newsletter will be delivered to residents the last week of August.
Trehus suggested that the information in the article be rearranged to present the webpage
address at the end of the article. The Board agreed.
Donlin suggested the sentence from the article: "Here you will find numerous options to
explore ways to keep our environment healthy through your own back yard" be included
in the webpage. Chair Lanyon stated he will include that statement on the webpage.
Davidson presented an update on the Environmental Education Packet and a DNR
publication that can be included.
D. Letter of Recommendation / Brauer & AES - It was noted that Davidson had
volunteered to put this information together based on the Board's input.
Trehus stated he found the letter to be well written and clearly stated.
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Asleson stated staff will ask for a legal review as well.
Donlin commented on the letter from a DNR employee and her evaluation of the Lino
Lakes Technical Report product which was not favorable. Donlin noted the evaluation
criticizes the City's plan as it does not integrated the DNR ways of doing business into
the product. Donlin stated if Lino Lakes wants connecting corridors and links, it should
include the same classification system as used by other communities so they are not trying
to be an "island." Donlin commented on the importance of working with its neighboring
cities.
Chair Lanyon agreed with the importance of using a consultant that will assure the plan is
compatible with its neighbors. He suggested Donlin ask the DNR employee for
permission to share her comments with others.
Trehus suggested this topic be included on the August 30, 2000 meeting agenda if the
DNR employee grants permission to share the evaluation.
PROGRAM / PROJECT UPDATES
A. Restoration Updates — Asleson presented an update on the Town Center project and his
concern with regard to maintenance and management issues. Mach advised that burning
encourages the grasses while cutting encourages the flowering plants.
B. Forestry Updates - Asleson reported on the oak wilt problem that has been identified
which may be related to the past storm damage. He also reported on trees that have been
planted.
C. Solid Waste/ Recycling Updates -Asleson reported on staff's recent activity on the
SCORE -grant application. He advised of his upcoming budget request for a part-time
staff position.
OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. 4H Community Tree Plant Program - Chair Asleson asked if there is merit to become
involved in this type of program. Asleson stated the 4H Community Tree Plant Program
is an excellent program and there are local 4H groups that may be interested. He stated
he will research this possibility.
B. " Rescue Tree" Program - Mach reviewed his memorandum which detailed the creation
of a "Rescue Tree" or "Adopt a Tree" Program. He commented on his activity to
"rescue" trees from development projects and give them away. He suggested information
be drafted to educate how to transplant a tree and to advertise when trees are available to
be "rescued."
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C. Lighting Ordinance Update - Chair Lanyon distributed copies of the memorandum he
prepared from the Environmental Board to advise the City Council of the Board's request
for the City to create a lighting ordinance and consider it as a priority.
Trehus suggested the other information on "Dark Sky" be included for the Council's
review. Chair Lanyon suggested that be presented a month later and commented that it
should not take long to draft a lighting ordinance since model ordinances from other cities
are available.
D. Heron Update - Donlin provided information on Herons including their nesting habitat
and impact from predatory owls and development activities.
CLOSE MEETING AND CONFIRM NEXT MEETING DATE
It was noted that the next meeting of the Environmental Board will be on August 30, 2000.
There being no further business, Trehus moved to adjourn at 8.30 p.m. Davidson seconded the
motion. Motion carried unanimously.
Transcribed by:
Carla Wirth
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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City of Lino Lakes
Environmental Board Meeting
Lino Lakes City Hall
July 26, 2000
6:30 PM
Agenda
1. Call To Order/Pass Sign -In Sheet
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Approval of Agenda
4. Citizen Comments
5. Project Review
6. Environmental Board Business
A. Commercial Area Landscape Discussion
B. DNR Project/Updates
C. Environmental Education PacketlWebpage/Newsletter
D. Letter of Recommendation/Brauer&AES
Program/Project Updates
A. Restoration Updates
B. Forestry Updates
C. Solid Waste/Recycling Updates
7. Other Discussion Items
A. 4H Community Tree Plant Program
B. "Rescue Tree" Program
9. Close Meeting and Confirm Next Meeting Date