HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/29/2000 Environmental Board MinutesENVIRONMENTAL BOARD MEETING NOVEMBER 29, 2000
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
DATE : November 29, 2000
TIME STARTED : 6:34 P.M.
TIME ENDED : 9:25 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Maurene Davidson, Amy Donlin, Rod Kukonen, Scott
Lanyon, Dave Mach, Theresa O'Connell, and Mike Trehus
(excused at 7:56 p.m.)
MEMBERS ABSENT : None.
Staff members present: Environmental Coordinator Marty Asleson, Community Development
Director Brian Wessel (part), and City Planner Jeff Smyser.
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Lanyon called the meeting to order at 6:34 p.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. October 25, 2000 — The following corrections were requested:
Page 2, 6th paragraph, "Kukonen moved to recommend avoidance of piecemeal
development, and does not support continued road expansion or development until a
comprehensive plan for thearea to the north is completed and approved.
Page 3, 8th paragraph, correct spelling of the word "habitat."
Davidson moved to approve the October 25, 2000 meeting minutes as amended above.
Kukonen seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA'
The following items were added to the meeting agenda:
• E -Mail Discussion
The agenda was approved as amended above.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
Connie Grundhofer, 235 Linda Avenue, asked if the Board is aware that plans are being made to
expand Highway 49 into a four lane highway, which would double its current size. She stated
her concern about the potential loss of the beautiful country atmosphere in Lino Lakes. Ms.
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Grundhofer commented on the importance of maintaining highway ditches to protect wildlife
including frogs and birds. She urged the Board to consider construction methods that assure the
protection of the natural habitat and environment.
Chair Lanyon stated this highway project has not yet come before the Board.
Ms. Grundhofer stated this potential project has been considered by Anoka County for several
months and the Lino Lakes City Council has also discussed it.
Wessel suggested that City Engineer John Powell attend the next Board meeting to provide a
project update.
Mach asked if Anoka County is open to compromise when designing this road project. Wessel
stated he believes there will be the opportunity for compromise, noting the County Engineer is
concerned with addressing road safety issues.
No other citizens had comments.
PROJECT REVIEW
A. Dellwood LLC/NE Quadrant of 35W. and Lake Drive- Asleson explained this project
had been reviewed previously by the Environmental Board who indicated a desire for
implementation of tree preservation practices including moving trees from the site that
may be saved by tree spading, stockpiling, and moving back onto the site; to promote
infiltration as much as possible; to use native materials from upland to wetland; and
landscaping consistent with:the Village 'Town Center design.
Asleson presented this project fora Target SuperStore and requested general comments
from the Board concerning'`; environmental preservation and restoration. He advised that
Target has taken a strong initiative with environmental protection and reviewed the
awards they have'received including specifics of their successful recycling program.
Wessel explained that Dellwood LLC is the developer and Ryan Construction is the entity
that will build the project. He reviewed the other firms involved with the project, noting
that Target is ,driving the project. He reviewed the permitting schedule which indicates
Target would break ground in May of 2001 and be open 2002. Wessel emphasized the
need to raise the major issues of concern early in this process and encouraged the Board
to contact staff should other concerns arise.
John Payton, Parsons Transportation Group, Minneapolis, introduced his company and
background with Target Stores. Mr. Payton then introduced Jeff Fulner and his
background in development. He acknowledged that this site contains serious
environmental concerns and stated he wants to assure everything is appropriately
designed and engineered. Mr. Payton noted the many meetings that will be held where
this project will be discussed to assure all concerns are resolved.
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Mr. Payton stated preliminary wetland delineation will be started next week and done
again in the spring to assure the correct boundaries are identified. Tree tagging to identify
species and caliper inch will be conducted as well as a survey of the locations. He stated
they will also survey the boundaries of the property.
Wessel advised that the exact location of Apollo Drive is in litigation and a court opinion
will be rendered in about a month. He reviewed the projects proposed for that area and
that of the Dellwood LLC project under consideration tonight.
Mr. Payton presented a diagram of the subject site, noting the location of the roadways
and City right-of-way. He advised of the Target Superstore concept for 174,000 square
feet that includes an Archer Farms grocery component, deli, bakery, pharmacy,
photoshop, Starbucks Coffee, Crispy Cream Donuts, and a fast food such as Burger King.
He stated he was involved with the Target Store in Forest Lake which was also developed
on a difficult site. Mr. Payton pointed out the loading dock area to the back of the
building and screening in that area.
Mr. Payton addressed the storm water issues by explaining the stormwater analysis and
how they will assure adequate pond capacity. He advised of the existing soil types and
explained the predevelopment condition for a 100 -year storm event. He stated a two -
pond system with a NURP and bounce component was considered and drainage would be
handled with the incorporation of a berm to meet Rice Creek Water Management
Organization (WMO) standards for graduated outfall. He estimated a four -foot bounce
during a 100 -year event which will be accommodated by the surrounding berms to assure
the correct rate of discharge He:estimated it would take 48 hours for that bounce
retainage to dissipate Mr Payton stated after the wetlands are delineated and trees
surveyed, they will be ableto prepare a better topographical map.
Wessel stated staff has met three to four times with the developer and Ryan Construction
made a preliminary presentation at the Council worksession last Wednesday. Discussion
by staff has related to the architectural expression of these structures to assure it is
consistent with the, Town Center. Wessel advised that staff has also discussed the
location of the buildings in relation to Lake Drive.
Asleson explained an option raised by the City Engineer to use biofiltration along the
pond edge along Apollo Drive to create a natively planted and aesthetically pleasing
feature. Another option raised was underground power lines. Mr. Payton stated they will
do an air quality sampling and a traffic analysis. He stated they are excited about the
concepts being raised for parking lot depressions and islands, on-site pond infiltration,
and native pond vegetation.
Mr. Payton noted the location of a remnant parcel that cannot be developed and stated
staff is determining if it could be utilized in some fashion.
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Trehus noted that 14 cubic feet per second would be going into the third pond and asked
if that runoff would leave the site. Mr. Payton stated it would not leave the site and the
water would back up behind the berm.
Davidson asked if the goal is to keep the rate of runoff to the level it is prior to
development. Mr. Payton stated the amount of runoff after the project would be less than
before.
Chair Lanyon stated it is important to the Board to not increase runoff and to also
improve water quality. Other concerns relate to requiring down focused lighting to
eliminate night time spill, minimizing impervious surfaces in general, and creating green
spaces.
Mr. Payton explained that the longitude and latitude of the store are submitted to a
security agency who reviews the incidents of theft, homicide, etc. and uses a master
formula to determine the security level which relates to the intensity of the lighting plan.
He stated their willingness to work with the City to assure adequate lighting while also
assuring security for their customers. Mr. Payton stated they will present a sample of the
downlit lighting fixtures which Target uses along with the foot-candle calculations.
Chair Lanyon agreed that safety is paramount and asked that the lights be kept as low as
possible while assuring safety is addressed.
Donlin stated it is admirable that Target has a;major recycling effort but she is crestfallen
that a big box project is being considered in Lino Lakes. She stated she is supportive of a
Target rather than a Wal-Mart and that TIF is not involved. Donlin asked what type of
greenway corridor is being proposed.
Asleson stated a standard NURP engineered pond will be required on this site no matter
the type of development. He noted the creative ideas being discussed with biofiltering,
parking lot depressions and islands.
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Trehus stated the Board wants to see natural preservation within Lino Lakes while areas
develop and encouraged innovation to preserve trees, etc. Mr. Payton stated this is a
preliminary plan and more cannot be done until the tree survey is completed. Also, the
site must meet the Rice Creek WMO requirements for a runoff rate of two cubic feet.
Mr. Paton stated that he believes they have presented a worse case scenario and the
numbers will be lower once the project is designed.
Donlin asked how this site can be "green" once the drainage is acceptable to the Rice
Creek WMO and City. She reviewed the previous effort made to assure Lino Lakes
remains a green city and asked how this project can be developed to assure those goals
are met.
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Mr. Payton explained every project has "needs" and "wants" that have to be quantified.
The "needs" are a requirement of the project and one need is to provide five parking stalls
per 1,000 square feet. A retailer's needs and the City's needs also relate to the number of
parking stalls.
Donlin commented on the importance of assuring balance in all developments including
economics, culture, and environment.
Kukonen asked if pervious parking surfaces have been considered for this project. Mr.
Payton stated that would have to be looked at in relation to high volume of traffic and the
need to assure emergency vehicle access.
Chair Lanyon asked if the current site plan impacts existing wetlands. Mr. Payton stated
it does.
Mach stated his concern with impacting the type and amount of vegetation that will
survive. He stated his agreement with Donlin and Trehus related to the lack of green
space and high volume of drainage that would be directed into these ponds.
Asleson noted the location of significant trees.
Mr. Payton commented on the importance of this type of dialog and assured the Board
that following the tree survey and wetland delineation, they will be better able to design a
project to resolve the concerns being expressed tonight. He stated that this project will
impact the wetland but they will work towards a goal to preserve the natural elements
present on this site.
Chair Lanyon stated it has been alluded to that Lino Lakes would not consider big box
projects due to the difficulty of imagining how a Target Superstore could be consistent
with that City image He noted that this will be the challenge to the developer, to develop
a project that matches the City's image, which will take a lot of creativity and green
spaces.
Davidson stated she walked this property several years ago and knows there are
significant trees on this site. She recommended that as part of the green feature, all trees
possible be preserved.
Wessel stated those trees are located on property that is not part of this project. He
suggested that if the Board believes this is a critical entryway parcel, the Board may want
to consider whether the parcel should remain under City ownership to assure the trees and
trail connections are preserved.
Trehus asked if there is some leeway in building design to eliminate the long straight wall
design. Wessel stated that issue was raised by the Council as well and during the Council
worksession, the architect presented some architectural designs including building
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materials that better match the Town Center and pedestrian environment. He stated they
found the Target representatives and development team have been very willing to discuss
those options. Wessel stated there will be more building articulation but agreed it will be
a major challenge to deal with this big box concept.
Chair Lanyon raised the issue of native plantings and the Board's desire to assure they are
included in the planting plan.
Mach suggested that the oak savanna be incorporated and intermingled into the parking
areas along with native plantings.
O'Connell stated all logos for Target stores have a lit logo (a red bullseye) including the
billboard on Hwy. 35 and asked if it is being proposed. Mr. Payton stated this project
will meet the City's sign ordinance requirements. Smyser stated staff has not yet looked
at the signage plan but agreed it will be reviewed during the project review process.
Trehus left the meeting at 7:56 p.m.
O'Connell asked about signage that would face Lake Drive. Mr. Payton stated that he
does not have specific sizes but monument signs will be designed that meet the sign
ordinance. Wessel noted this is the Lino Lakes Town Center and the objective will be to
identify that aspect and assure the lighting, signage, etc. all tie together.
Donlin asked if the sign ordinance had been completed. She pointed out that everyone
will know of the location of this Target and she does not believe a large sized bullseye or
"TARGET" sign is needed. •
Chair Lanyon summarized that the Board has many concerns about how this project can
meet the image they have for. Lino Lakes and encouraged the developers to continue their
work to resolve those concerns and bring this project closer to that image.
ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD BUSINESS
A. Minnesota DNR / Wildland Interface Project / Peggy Sand — Asleson reviewed the
City's involvement with the Wildland Interface Project which incorporates smart growth.
He introduced Peggy Sand, Metro Region Forestry Manager and Wildlife Interface
Project Manager.
Ms. Sand explained the DNR has a reputation of managing its own land and placing
regulations on other land but, in the metro area, the DNR owns very little land and is not
as effective as they'd like to be to provide guidance and assistance to communities. She
commented on the different regulations of local communities and explained they are
trying to create cohesive, consistent, and well-timed assistance to communities and
landowners. In that effort, a guidebook is being created for landowners.
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Ms. Sand stated the other component of this project is the local unit of government
project to establish a set of materials and determine what they would recommend for
various projects. She stated they received federal funding for this component and decided
to work with the cities of Hugo and Lino Lakes on this project. Ms. Sand noted the
information provided to the Board which detailed a permitting process time line
indicating this project would be completed in August or September of 2001. She
reviewed their primary activities will include the development of a checklist for natural
resource guidance, conducting natural resource inventory and assessments, and to provide
information and assistance to local communities.
Ms. Sand asked if the Board is working on other plans and policies on which they would
like DNR involvement. She stated they would also like to provide some voluntary input
to work with developers. Ms. Sand provided a detailed list of what the DNR would like
to produce as part of the Wildland Interface Project to help local units, a checklist for
natural resource inventory and analysis checklist, a checklist for addressing natural
resources in the City's Comprehensive Plan, and a checklist for a site based management
plan for natural areas. Ms. Sand also provided a copy of the Best Management Practices
in Minnesota booklet entitled Conserving Wooded Areas in Developing Communities.
Ms. Sand displayed a digital aerial photograph of the Saddle Club property depicting land
cover classification data including different vegetation communities, imperviousness,
forest, non-native, and wetland areas. She also provided maps identifying the level of
disturbance and map of tree canopy cover which creates environmental benefits. Ms.
Sand stated they intend to do mapping for the site by the elementary school that may be
developed.
Asleson reviewed the site to the west of the Lino Lakes Elementary that is currently under
a purchase agreement for development. He noted the trail corridor alignment and advised
of the uses of the property to the north.
Ms. Sand stated Metro Greenway staff reviewed the site to consider the potential for a
planning grant and land acquisition assistance. She presented Chair Lanyon with copies
of that information. Asleson advised of possible involvement with the Anoka
Conservation District to assist with grant writing.
Mach stated this property by the school is valuable and asked if the Board can do
anything to assure it is protected. Asleson stated the Board can support a statement
encouraging that preservation.
Chair Lanyon stated in the past, the Board has not made specific recommendations about
particular sites that need to be saved. He indicated support to move toward that position
and suggested the development of a statement to the City Council emphasizing the
importance of preserving this site, noting it contains an almost pristine wetland and abuts
a school.
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Smyser stated it is admirable to look at areas to protect. He explained that as the City
Planner, he needs to address many different aspects and one of the first things the City
Council will want to know is "why." Smyser noted the City operates on a lean budget so
a list of very good reasons should accompany such a recommendation.
Chair Lanyon stated he would like the Council to be made aware of the fact that there are
areas in Lino Lakes that are environmentally valuable and should be preserved.
Asleson advised that the planning and land acquisition grant applications are due January
20, 2000. Ms. Sand noted it may not be fee title ownership but, rather, easement
acquisition. She stated it may be appropriate to talk with the land owner since the grant
may not be approved if the project does not have the support of the land owner.
Kukonen stated he believes there are many in the community who believe this area is
more important with its variety of plant life and wildlife than even the Wargo Nature
Center.
Asleson suggested a dialogue between the developer and land owner to determine the
intent of the developer. Ms. Sand reviewed her conversation with the developer and
stated the developer was provided with conservation easement information.
Smyser suggested this topic be discussed at the next Council worksession to determine if
they will entertain the idea of purchasing, this site., If the Council does not support a
purchase, it may not be prudent to continue the process.
Chair Lanyon noted the City's indication that it wants to be a "green community" and
suggested there is no better way than to save such a site with endangered species.
Davidson suggested that representatives of the Board attend the Council worksession.
Chair Lanyon and O'Connell, stated they will plan to attend. Smyser stated that Asleson
will present this issue before the Council.
B. Lino Lakes Population / Amy Donlin — Donlin distributed a written statement on the
growth of Lino Lakes, noting it was 74% during the decade of the 1990s. At this rate of
increase, the population of Lino Lakes jumped from 8,807 in 1990 to 15,324 at the end of
the decade. She explained that to avoid surpassing the City's published goal of not
exceeding 20,500 by the year 2020, no more than 5,176 new residences can be added, or
an average of 257 newcomers per year for the next 20 years. She indicated support to
assure the population goal is not over reached.
Davidson stated she shares the concern for population growth. She noted the comment
indicating "city officials adopted another figure" may not accurately reflect what occurred
during the process of drafting the Comprehensive Plan, which has not yet been adopted.
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Donlin stated the Board sees projects first and, thus, should say things first if it thinks
something is awry. Smyser updated the Board on the progress of the Comprehensive
Plan. He advised that this population data is well known by the staff and Council.
Chair Lanyon requested quarterly reports on housing starts and commented on the
difficulty of managing growth that is too rapid.
C. Development Concerns / Birch Street and Centerville Road - This item was tabled to
the December 27, 2000 meeting.
D. Property North of Lino Lakes Elementary - This item was discussed as part of Item
6A.
PROGRAM / PROJECT UPDATES
A. Environmental Education — This item was tabled to the December 27, 2000 meeting.
B. Forestry Updates — This item was tabled to the December 27, 2000 meeting.
C. Solid Waste/Recycling Updates — This item was tabled to the December 27, 2000
meeting.
OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. E -Mail Discussion - Since Trehus:was not in attendance, this item was tabled to the
December 27, 2000 meeting
B. Status of Sign Ordinance `O'Connell inquired regarding the status of the Sign
Ordinance. Asleson stated that while there was discussion as part of the McDonald's
project, the City has not formally addressed a revision to its current Sign Ordinance. He
explained this is a very large task but he believes a Sign Ordinance overhaul is needed.
Asleson advised that a Lighting Ordinance revision has been included in the 2001 budget.
He reported the Tree Preservation Ordinance was reviewed twice by the Planning
Commission and they have directed major revisions on which staff is working.
O'Connell requested a copy of the Sign Ordinance.
C. December Agenda Items - Chair Lanyon requested the December agenda include a
discussion of the Highway 49 Expansion, Elementary School property, Environmental
Board Authority, and the Dellwood LLC/Target Project.
Chair Lanyon stated the Board wants to establish a relationship with developers to
provide basic general guidelines that can be incorporated into their project design prior to
presentation before the Environmental Board.
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Smyser stated the Environmental Board's responsibility does not include giving direction
to developers. Rather, that direction should be given to staff so they can work with
developers and that information will then be reported back to the Board.
Mach asked that an agenda item be included to discuss the process under which the Board
operates so it can assure environmental issues are incorporated into the plan.
Chair Lanyon agreed with the benefit of being more proactive than reactive, which may
be helped by becoming involved with the ordinances.
Smyser encouraged the Board to keep staff informed of their concerns so ;they can be
raised and resolved by the developer.
CLOSE MEETING AND CONFIRM NEXT MEETING DATE
It was noted that the next meeting of the Environmental Board will be on December 27, 2000.
Chair Lanyon advised that he is not available on December 27, 2000.
There being no further business, Donlin moved to adjourn at 9:25 p.m. Davidson seconded the
motion. Motion carried unanimously.
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City of Lino Lakes
Environmental Board Meeting
Lino Lakes City Hall
November 29, 2000
6:30 PM
Agenda
1. Call To Order/Pass Sign -In Sheet
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Approval of Agenda
4. Citizen Comments
5. Project Review
A. Dellwood LLC/NE Quadrant of 35W & Lake Dr.
6. Environmental Board Business
A. Minnesota DNR/Wildland Interface Project / Peggy Sand
B. Lino Lakes Population / Amy Donlin
C. Development Concerns/Birch St. and Centerville Rd.
D. Property North of Lino Lakes Elementary
7. Program/Project Updates
A. Environmental/Grant Update
B. Forestry Updates
C. Solid Waste/Recycling Updates
9. Close Meeting and Confirm Next Meeting Date