HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/25/2004 Environmental Board MinutesENVIRONMENTAL BOARD MEETING AUGUST 25, 2004
CITY OF LINO LAKES
APPROVED MINUTES
DATE : August 25, 2004
TIME STARTED : 6: 35 P.M.
TIME ENDED : 8:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Barbara Bor (arrived at 6:45 p.m.), Barbara
Bauman, Constance Grundhofer, Rod Kukonen,
Teresa O’Connell (arrived at 6:40 p.m.), Mary
Jo O’Dea
MEMBERS ABSENT : Dennis Smith
STAFF PRESENT : Environmental Coordinator Marty Asleson
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Kukonen called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
July 28, 2004
Page 3, first paragraph: “An advantage to having a greenway would be the
association would know they would continue to have the scenery.”
Page 5, third paragraph: “He inquired of Asleson if there was any quality natural
features on the East.”
Page 5, fifth paragraph: “Grundhofer noted the wetland delineation would not tell
the quality of the wetlands. Asleson added you have to go to MNRAM for the
assessing functions and values on wetlands.”
Page 6, sixth paragraph: “Asleson answered that there was a lot of information to
consider.”
Page 6, tenth paragraph: “Grundhofer commented that pelicans had abandoned
their nests in North Dakota in a previous abandonment.”
Page 7, second paragraph: “O’Dea noted that last year staff indicated he did not
see evidence of predation on the nests. There was a successful breeding season
last year.”
Page 7, fourth paragraph: Delete the sentence “They were trying to get
greenways.”
Page 7, ninth paragraph: “Asleson added that the rare plant indicators probably
extended into those areas.”
O’Dea made a motion to approve the July 28, 2004 meeting minutes. Grundhofer
seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The Board approved the agenda as amended.
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4. OPEN MIKE
No citizen comments were made.
5. ACTION ITEMS
A. Speiser Acres
Asleson reviewed the background and analysis. He directed the questions to the
Speiser representatives. Marni Speiser Sawyer introduced herself, her spouse
Jeffrey Sawyer and her brother-in-law Thomas Paulus.
Grundhofer inquired about the location of the lot and the number of houses
planned. Mrs. Sawyer responded that it was on the East and there would be one
house on the lot.
Bauman questioned the location of the depressional area. Asleson answered the
depressional area was between the house and ditch. The depressional area
appeared to be in the wetland delineation buffer area.
Chair Kukonen inquired if the swale would be retained. Asleson responded it
would be retained.
Chair Kukonen questioned when the ditch was created. Asleson answered it was
probably put in the early 1900’s, and has been maintained.
Bauman asked if additional fill would be needed. Mr. Paulus confirmed that
some would be needed.
Chair Kukonen inquired if the aspen would be retained. Asleson asked if the
house could be positioned differently.
Mrs. Sawyer responded that the house could not be repositioned. He encouraged
them to be careful to keep as much of the aspen stand as possible. Grundhofer
added that they filter the water, so it was not merely a request to save the trees.
Asleson discussed planting native grasses on site.
The Board compiled their recommendations:
• Staff recommendations.
• Work with staff for native plantings for a buffer in ditch area.
• No imported or exported soils without City approval.
• Save as many aspens as possible.
O’Dea made a motion to approve the recommendations of the Board. Bor
seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
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B. Parks, Natural Open Space/Greenways and Trail System Plan
Jeff Shoenbauer of Brauer and Associates introduced himself and indicated his
presentation would be brief, and then he would open up for discussion. Jeff
presented an overview of the new open space and trails plan.
O’Dea recalled that when the developer for Fox Den Acres came before the
Board, he was unsure that it would work and meet the City requirements. She
inquired if they were things to strive for, or if they were requirements. Mr.
Shoenbauer responded that the City continued to retain regulatory control. With
the new approach, the developer would approach staff with a blank proposal.
Staff would give expectations, and they give their economic needs.
Mr. Shoenbauer stated that creative design could not be regulated. He had
experience with other communities that have been successful. He stated staff
understood the issue.
Bor inquired about the endowment process, and wanted to be able to express it
more effectively. Mr. Shoenbauer discussed his experience with setting up
endowment funds in other cities. Mr. Shoenbauer discussed upfront monies set
aside to set up the fund and a portion of homeowner association fees. Incentives
are used to allow the developer to initiate the endowment fund.
Chair Kukonen recalled that Mr. Black had not embraced the idea and inquired if
it had changed. Mr. Shoenbauer indicated he had changed his view.
There was a discussion of the starting point with Fox Den Acres. Mr.
Schoenbauer stated that a MNRAM analysis of the wetlands will give function of
values weight to wetlands on the site as a starting point. He recommended the
City set aside seed dollars, about $40,000/year for land acquisition. If it was truly
a community value, it would need a dollar amount assigned.
Bor inquired if there could be an adjustment to the Comprehensive Plan. Mr.
Shoenbauer answered that his recommendation would be to see the City go
through a couple of conservation developments working together with the
developers, and clarify the rules afterward. Growth controls, by themselves
would not ensure open space, but might be effective if used as one of the tools in
the toolbox. Instead of phasing, a developer could save money by the economies
of scale.
Asleson stated that he did an action sheet on the plan, and was told that the Board
should make a recommendation. Councilmember Carlson stated that it was
approved on Monday night.
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Mr. Shoenbauer indicated the approval was important. All people involved need
to find a common center point. The plan was dynamic, and Asleson was doing a
great job updating the greenway areas. He stated he looked at conservation in a
broad sense.
Chair Kukonen recommended that Asleson and the other staff needed to be
utilized. Mr. Shoenbauer answered that the staff were integral to the process,
otherwise the document would be over 500 pages.
O’Connell expressed concern that Mr. Black not be led to believe that the Board
was singling him out. She reiterated that the Saddle Club could be used as an
example for Fox Den Acres because it was adjacent and had similar issues. Mr.
Shoenbauer responded that the example was used. They wanted to know the
City’s desire in protection, infiltration, buffering, and greenways.
Mr. Shoenbauer stated Lino Lakes was fortunate that Rice Creek Watershed
District was so progressive in conservation development and unique surface water
treatment and management techniques.
Chair Kukonen mentioned stormwater management in its natural state can be a
community value, but he inquired about flood plains. Mr. Shoenbauer responded
there was no catch all rule that gave regulatory strength, but the City needed to
use reasonableness. He encouraged bringing the community's values and City’s
needs as a starting point at the table. He reminded the Board that without the
development community, the City would not obtain the greenways.
Bor inquired if the Board was holding any given plan to the Comprehensive Plan,
the zoning ordinance would limit the creativity. Mr. Shoenbauer answered that
economies of scale in the larger developments could have benefits, and may
warrant a lifting of the population caps in an instance where a developer would
take a conservation development approach.
O’Dea made a motion to approve the plan. O’Connell seconded the motion.
Motion carried unanimously.
6. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Environmental Board Search
O’Dea presented the updated information, and requested that Board members
begin working on other cities. She noted that Barb Bauman obtained a
considerable amount of information from Shoreview.
O’Connell noted that the Minneapolis meetings were not held on a monthly basis,
but more unstructured and occasionally.
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O’Dea stated that if a City had been done, a member should list what was found,
or state there was no group in that City. Bauman indicated that she believed it
would be helpful to know there was no group. She recommended noting a contact
person for the City as well.
Marty mentioned that he would like to have the environmental groups get
together.
The Board chose cities to explore for environmental groups as follows:
O’Connell -- Plymouth and Crystal
Bor -- Woodbury
Chair Kukonen -- Blaine and Lexington
Grundhofer -- Centerville, Circle Pines, Fridley, and North Oaks
B. Solid Waste Reports/County Advisory Committee Updates
Asleson stated that Mary Eide was not present. Recycling Day would be October
2, 2004. He hoped there would be good weather, and requested help.
C. Goals 2004 and 2005
Chair Kukonen reviewed the goals for 2004, and indicated that several had been
met.
Asleson stated the kiosk needed to be updated because residents have been
interested, and mentioned he had money for copies if needed. He noted that
Extension classes had been held, but few Lino Lakes residents had attended. The
next class would be a turf class at Chomonix on September 2, 2004. The
Extension was open to do more classes as well. O’Connell recommended putting
the information in the Quad.
Chair Kukonen indicated there would only be 10-25 spaces for the class. He
noted that Chomonix used organic fertilizer, which could be compared with other
conventional options. He also expressed concern that Lino Lakes would have
difficulty being certified as a Community Wildlife Habitat.
Grundhofer noted the National Wildlife Federation had the Community Wildlife
Habitat program changed in May. There would be no new applications
considered, until the new requirements were established in September. She also
indicated that her E-Mail was not working, so she would need to be phoned if she
was needed.
The Board briefly discussed E-Mail concerns.
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D. Other reports from Staff and Environmental Board
Asleson stated there were two funding opportunities. The Friends of the
Mississippi River have up to $50,000 available, and they are interested in
reviewing our ordinances so that they work with the RCWD CWMP process. A
research consultant would do the review, and would be meeting next week. The
second was the Metro Wildlife Corridor would be meeting on September 16, 2004
from 9 a.m. to noon at the Coon Rapids Dam looking at unique parcels in Anoka
County with money available for preservation. Either of these opportunities
could help the City with conservation development.
Bauman inquired if the DNR had any grants available. Asleson responded the
Board’s efforts were having a snowballing effect that can help with future funding
and that we are looking for funding opportunities to help.
Grundhofer stated she had located an oil based floor paint for heron tracks. She
had gone to a craft store and made a pattern of the left and right feet of a heron.
She indicated she would probably present it to Council for possible application in
City Hall.
Chair Kukonen mentioned he and Grundhofer had a booth at the 5K Rookery
Run. They handed out information and indicated the Jaycees wanted to make it
an annual event. He inquired if anyone had gone to the parade. (No other Board
members had attended.) Grundhofer added Chair Kukonen began the race with
the starting gun.
There was an update and discussion of the heron issue. Bor inquired about the
amount of flashing necessary for the trees.
Chair Kukonen questioned the placement of the flashing on the tree. Asleson
responded that there was a concern about bridging to adjacent trees, although the
trees seemed to be far enough apart to hinder it.
Grundhofer stated that they should put a call out for adults to help with the
flashing in the Quad.
Chair Kukonen inquired if the heron films could be edited to make an educational
video.
7. OTHER DEPARTMENT REPORTS
A. Forestry
This item was tabled to the September 29, 2004 meeting.
B. Solid Waste Recycling
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This item was tabled to the September 29, 2004 meeting.
C. Environmental
This item was tabled to the September 29, 2004 meeting.
8. ADJOURN
It was noted that the next meeting of the Environmental Board will be on
September 29, 2004.
There being no further business, Grundhofer moved to adjourn at 8:30 p.m. Bor
seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
Transcribed by:
Brigette Blesi
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