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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/13/1999 P&Z Minutes• Planning & Zoning Board Octoberl3, 1999 Page 1 CITY OF LINO LAKES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES DATE TIME STARTED TIME ENDED MEMBERS PRESENT MEMBERS ABSENT STAFF PRESENT • October 13, 1999 6•30 P.M. : 8.20 P.M. Johnson, Corson, Dunn, Schaps, Schilling, Lane, and Carlson : None :.- Planning Coordinator, Wyland; City Planner, Smyser; City Engineer, Powell I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Chair Schaps called the Lino Lakes Plann' ni oard meeting to order at 6:30 p.m., October 13, 1999. II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - S ,1999 Ms. Carlson made a MOTI 1999, meeting of the Li Lane. Motion carried III. APPROVAL 0 pro the presented minutes of the September 8, lanning & Zoning Board, and was supported by Ms. r Schaps abstaining. Chair Schaps advise hat Action Item VA will be addressed after Action Items VB and VC. The agenda was approved as presented. V. OPEN MIKE Chair Schaps declared open mike open at 6:35. No one was present for open mike. Mr. Corson moved to close open mike, and was supported by Mr. Schilling. Motion carried 7 -0. Planning & Zoning Board Octoberl3, 1999 Page 2 VI. ACTION ITEMS B. Johnson/Killey, 261 & 271 Elm Streit, Minor Subdivision Mr. and Mrs. Johnson currently own the property at 261 Elm Street which consists of a 108' x 208' parcel containing their home and a 56' x 216' parcel to the north of their home. They would like to transfer the east 56' x 108' of this parcel to the Killey's. The proposed conveyance would provide for two parcels, each consisting of a 108' x 264' parcel. Staff recommended approval of this minor subdivision based on conditions. \\Mr. Johnson asked about the 1/2 foot discrepancy in the property. Staff advised the discrepancy is a private matter that will be settled by the own Mr. Bob Killey, 271 Elm Street, stated his attorney has was given to the County. The 1/2 foot discrepancy w He added that the transaction took place a year ago across. description that d into both parcels. ots even all the way Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to approv subdivision based on the following conditions: 1. The proposed subdivision sh d with Anoka County. 2. The newly described p c 1 1 be combined for tax purposes with new Property Identification Number is ',.,_ that combine Parcel 0011 with the west 108 feet of Parcel 0023 and Parce ith the east 108 feet of Parcel 0023. The MOTION wa d by Ms. Carlson. Motion carried 7 -0. C. City of Lino takes, Montain & Molitor Property, 6510 Centerville Road and 6410 Centerville Road, Minor Subdivision to facilitate future recreation complex The City of Lino Lakes is processing this minor subdivison as the applicant on behalf of the Montain's and the Molitor's. The minor subdivision is required to facilitate the City's purchase of property for a future community recreation complex at the south east corner of Birch Street and Centerville Road. The property in question is zoned rural and indicated as such on the existing Land Use Plan. The proposal is to purchase approximately 60 acres of property from the Montain family leaving a 10 acre parcel containing their homestead. Additionally, the City would purchase five (5) of the 6.6 acre Molitor parcel. The balance of 1.6 acres would be added to their existing homesite of 1.4 acres for a total of 3 acres. Right -of -way for the future • • • • Planning & Zoning Board Octoberl3, 1999 Page 3 reconstruction of Centerville Road and Birch Street will be dedicated from the Montain parcel to Anoka County. The City is not requiring dedication of right -of -way from the Molitor parcel due to the fact that the property to be split does not front on Centerville Road. Staff recommended approval of the subdivision request with conditions. Ms. Lane made a MOTION to approve minor subdivision based on the following conditions: 1. 27' of right -of -way is dedication from the Montain property for the future reconstruction of Centerville Road and Birch Street as indicated on the submitted survey document. 2. The remaining 1.6 acre parcel on the Molitor parcel is ad eir existing homesite for a total of 3 acres. 3. The City Council approve the purchase agreeme t 6 + cre Montain parcel and the 5 acre Molitor parcel for a future community re at plex. • The MOTION was supported by Mr. Schil Mr. Dunn stated he would like to see development of the complex. Motion carried 7 -0. ental Board be involved in the A. PUBLIC HE bill Ponds, (former Lichtscheidl Estate), Main Street, Preliminary P Staff advised Heri opment has submitted an application for a preliminary plat. The site is on the so side of Main Street across from Wood Duck Trail and Blue Bill Lane. It is in the exi mg MUSA. Staff referred to a table which indicates land use and zoning for the site and surrounding land. The site include 35 acres. The proposed plat would create 72 single family lots. Wetlands cover approximately two acres. Gross density would be 2.06 units per acre. Net density, subtracting the wetlands, would be 2.18 The lots, blocks, and right -of -way widths meet City requirements. However, there are numerous issues that need to be addressed. Staff reviewed the preliminary plat analysis in detail. Staff recommended the public hearing be continued to allow the applicant to redesign the plat and supply additional information to address the outstanding issues. Planning & Zoning Board Octoberl3, 1999 Page 4 Chair Schaps declared the public hearing open at 6:45 p.m. Mr. Johnson asked about the street going east in the concept plan. Staff advised the street was shown to give an idea where the street could continue to. The City has no intention of condemning property to put a street through. Mr. Johnson asked about the street going northeast in Highland Meadows. Staff indicated that street may not be part of the plat. Revisions are being made to Highland Meadows. A connection is needed from Highland Meadows to Main Street. Mr. Dunn stated the plan is too premature to take action. He stated he wants a better understanding of the traffic patterns out of both subdivisions and on Main Street. He stated the City should develop a way to curtail vehicles cutting through residential areas. Mr. Bill Frogner, 475 Lois Lane, stated he has lived on his stated there is a culvert under Main Street that has no o to handle the excess water. Chair Schaps advised the drainage plan has no r 20 years. He d how the City plans Mr. Tim Anderson, 547 Lois Lane, came <Mnd stated he moved here in 1988 for the open space. There are many large s;`ea and the 1/4 acre lots are a horrible concept that doesn't fit into the ne . • `fig •o• " e stated there isn't a wetland or tree replacement plan and hopes this e re vision for Lino Lakes. He continued stating he is not against deve t •$ ;.• evelopment should be at a lesser density. He asked about the possibilit •". its if the easement is not granted on the south side so future subdivision ther Mr. Brian David, values in the area reet, stated that if City water and sewer come all property fected. He suggested the MUSA boundary be expanded. Ms. Debbie Waldock 559 Lois Lane, distributed a petition signed by residents that are against the proposed development. She asked that the City protect them from the builder land locking their property. It was indicated that eventually a road would come in behind these lots and residents would be able to subdivide their property. All property owners were told that the development was designed to construct a road behind their homes. The petition was officially entered into the record. Mr. Daryl Cooper, 8125 Wood Duck Trail, stated the road cannot handle the number of families proposed in the development. The City sewer will affect all property values. He stated he is not against higher density but against the traffic problems that will occur from higher density. He suggested 1.5 acre lots. He stated that land locking is also a big issue. He added that not all residents in the area were notified of the neighborhood meeting. • • • • • • Planning & Zoning Board Octoberl3, 1999 Page 5 Mr. Rich Matzke, 482 Main Street, stated he is concerned about the cost of City sewer because he owns 5 acres. He stated the noise and traffic on Main Street is a big concern also. He stated the number of homes in the plan is too large for the area. There are Oak trees over 100 years old that should be saved. The park should be more centralized. If the road is widened 27' there will be even more problems. The school being located where it is should also be considered. He added that he would like to see the area zoned commercial. Mr. Al Robinson, 8299 4th Avenue, stated the size of the lots are due to the cost of developing the lots. Larger lots cost more to do because of the cost of sewer and water. Residents do not have to hook up to City sewer and water if they don't want to. He stated his main concern is the drainage in the area. Also, access will be limited on Main Street and the County may ask for a service road. He asked if the School District is aware of the development plan. He asked that the lots be 2 acre lots. Staff advised the School District is aware of the potent or ment. Mr. David came forward again and stated that if 27 expansion he will lose his house. There are m development needs to slow down in that ar n for the highway dren on that street and Mr. Dave Bombeck, 626 Main Street is concerned about the planned roads being tied to future development. ong in the future before the roads are developed and where will they . - ? r :' a he supports the other's concerns regarding overcrowding in the area. e ; oncern of the location of the parks and additional traffic in areas +s play. The City sewer and water assessments are also a concern. Mr. Tim Rehbine he is in litigation property will happe treet, stated he is not opposed to development. He stated operty. He asked how to insure that a dead end road at his Staff advised that this plan will change significantly. The City has many dead end roads that are temporary until the property owner decides to develop. Mr. Neil Benjamin, 466 Main Street, stated he has always had a water problem on his property. Drainage is a real issue. Another concern is the fact that no one has been able to maintain a street in front of or over the ditch. Every winter the road is ruined. Traffic in that area is already very dangerous and a problem. Mr. Robinson stated the crossing over the ditch was never installed correctly. The culvert was not excavated with the proper material. He stated the ditch needs to be cleaned and upgraded. Planning & Zoning Board Octoberl3, 1999 Page 6 Ms. Danna Cross, 8025 Wood Duck Trail, stated she is concerned about the traffic also. She asked that all residents be notified of the next neighborhood meeting. She stated the Church is under great pressure to cooperate with the developer. Any additional traffic on Main Street will be a problem. Mr. Frogner stated there are beautiful woods in that area that need to be saved. Mr. Robert Reinertson, 439 Main Street, stated that traffic is already a big problem. He stated that his kids are not allowed anywhere near the street. The cross walks for the schools were taken out and added to the problem. Mr. Fred Rodman, Pastor of House of Praise Church, stated he has been in contact with the developer. He stated that a cross road at Wood Duck trail would be appropriate. The Church has not yet made a final decision and negotiations continue. He indicated he believes that a deal can be worked out but doesn't want to be ed. Mr. Dave Heller, representative for Heritage Develop st� plan is flexible to be able to address the concerns of the residents. Not ve been addressed. Chair Schaps stated the plan is not ready. He s s z th- eveloper have another neighborhood meeting. The Planning and cannot ignore the comments of the neighborhood. Mr. Schilling added that he also e true attempt be made at hearing early to act on. ghborhood meeting. He asked that a g the issues of residents. The plan is too Chair Schaps stated he li see at least 1/2 acre lots. The problems on Main Street are a carbon cop rch Street relating to traffic. Adding this many homes in this area is not fe age is also an issue that has not been addressed. He stated the developer sho ith City staff regarding the road that was intended to go in on the south end. Staff advised they will research the proposed road noting this is the first time he has seen residents that want a road. He added that the property is zoned R -1 and in the MUSA boundary. The developer has the right to develop property at a minimum of 10,000 square feet per lot. The City cannot require larger lots. Chair Schaps added that he would like to see a useable park built into the plat. The park should be large enough to support the number of houses being developed. Mr. Dunn suggested the property be changed to R -1X resulting in larger lots and higher priced homes. The lot sizes need to balance with the lots that are in the area. Fewer homes would allow for less traffic and more room for a park. He stated this proposal is not reasonable. Planning & Zoning Board October 13, 1999 Page 7 Mr. Johnson stated the traffic on Main Street will steadily increase with or without the development. Main Street is going to be a major road. He stated that the drainage is a regional problem and a solution is needed. He asked how the drainage will be affected in Highland Meadows and who pays for the improvements to the ditch. He agreed that the density should be lower and suggested a cluster design. Staff advised the drainage is a regional problem. The Highland Meadows development has been split regarding drainage. A portion of the development drains to the southeast. The City charges developers for drainage issues and improvements. Ms. Lane stated cluster housing is a good option. She stated drainage and traffic is a major concern. The residents have very valid concerns. The plan needs more work. She added that the City needs an east/west roadway north of 694. Mr. Corson added that traffic is an issue that isn't going to uickly. Main Street is a major concern and drainage should be looked at as ' • lem. Ms. Carlson requested staff provide information of u for Main Street and the proposed road on the south end of the subdivis' as d if there are any traffic control plans made by the school relating is • acre:' She stated the County needs to address the danger of Main Street. She r vironmental Board's comments relating to this project. She stated th ,�� a� a preservation development that is being developed. She asked for cod` the developer to resolve all issues. Chair Schaps stated the deve need to be patient and cou needs to be found. Th that access on Wood right to develop. The residents and developer here are concerns on both sides and middle ground eeds to continue working with the Church. He noted ail would be much more acceptable to the Board. VI. DISCUSSION I A. Site Plan Resew - relocated structures (garages) Staff advised the City occasionally receives requests from property owners to move structures into the City. In the past the City has required a site plan review for any relocated structure whether a single family dwelling or a detached accessory building larger that 120 square feet in size. Staff read the section of ordinance that pertains to this situation. Staff advised they believe the section of the ordinance could be interpreted to apply only to a "vacant lot ". Therefore, a developed site, already containing a single family home, may not apply. When a request involves a relocated garage, staff would still require a building permit and inspection by the building department to insure compliance with applicable building codes. However, staff would prefer to eliminate the site plan review Planning & Zoning Board Octoberl3, 1999 Page 8 process including the application fee (which is in addition to the building permit) and the time delay of a site plan review before P & Z and Council. Staff asked Board members for their direction concerning this interpretation. It was the consensus of the Planning & Zoning Board members to accept staff's interpretation of the ordinance. Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to accept staff's ordinance interpretation, and was supported by Ms. Lane. Motion carried 7 -0. VII. ADJOURNMENT Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to adjourn the meeting at 8:20 p.m., and was supported by Mr. Corson. Motion carried 7 -0. Respectfully Submitted, Kim Points, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. • • •