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Planning & Zoning Board
June 10, 1998
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CITY OF LINO LAKES
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I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
• Chair Schaps called the Lino Lakes Planning & Zoning Board meeting to order at 6:35
p.m., June 10, 1998.
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II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - May 13, 1998
Mr. Dunn made a MOTION to approve the minutes of the May 13, 1998, meeting of the
Lino Lakes Planning & Zoning Board, and was supported by Mr. Corson. Motion carried
6 -0.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Dunn noted that he would like to include clarification on the City's position
regarding zoning request and site plans in the Discussion Items, VI, of the Agenda.
Chair Schaps stated that Agenda Item VE has been deleted.
The amended agenda was approved as submitted.
IV. OPEN MIKE
Chair Schaps declared the Open Mike portion of the meeting open at 6:39 p.m. There
were no comments.
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Mr. Schilling made a MOTION to close the Open Mike portion of the meeting at 6:40
p.m., and was supported by Mr. Trehus. Motion carried 6 -0.
V. ACTION ITEMS
A. Highland Meadow, (Gusse Property), 77th Street, Rezone
This item was table at the May 13, 1998, Planning and Zoning Board Meeting. The
Planning and Zoning Board determined the issue would be revisited at the June 10, 1998,
Planning and Zoning Board Meeting with the following conditions:
1. Applicant present a site plan.
2. Applicant resolve neighborhood's issues.
3. Applicant meet with City Engineer to assure right -of -way requirements are met.
4. Applicant submit a general concept plan illustrating future development option for
the adjoining single family lots to the east and south.
5. Applicant waive the 60 day review period for development applications in
writing.
Ms. Wyland stated that the applicant has met with the City Engineer and the right -of -way
issues have been resolved. The applicant does have a revised site plan. The applicant is
asking for approval to rezone the southern portion of the property to R -3 Medium Density
Residential District. The northern portion of the property would remain R -1 Single
Family Residential District to provide the buffer the neighborhood wants.
Mr. Bruce Kerber, General Manager for North Suburban Development, Inc., stated that as
more property becomes available North Suburban Development will try to purchase the
property. Their plans for development do fit into the City's Comprehensive Plan. They
currently have a purchase agreement for the Gusse property. At this time, North
Suburban Development is in negotiations with other property owners in the area.
Mr. Kerber stated that the right -of -way issues have been resolved due to granted
easements. North Suburban Development is asking to leave the front 135' of the property
single family and to rezone the southern portion to R -3.
Mr. Brixius stated that regarding plans for future land use the City does have a need for
Medium Residential zoning. Progress is being made with the Comprehensive Plan but it
has not yet been formally adopted. Mr. Brixius stated that some of the issues involved
with this rezone request have been resolved. He stated he has asked for a general concept
plan to be developed involving the entire parcel. He would like to see a site plan that
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• shows limited access to Lake Drive. Mr. Brixius stated that he would like the following
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questions answered:
1. How will the houses integrate with Highland Meadows?
2. What are the future options for redevelopment of Single Family Housing to the
south and east?
3. How will the site be designed to buffer the Single Family Housing to the north?
4. What level of amenities are being offered?
5. What type of Medium Density Housing is being proposed?
Chair Schaps stated that Mr. Brixius needed more information before he could make a
recommendation. Mr. Brixius stated that he has not yet received the information he asked
for at the May, 1998, Planning and Zoning Board meeting.
Mr. Kerber stated that if the property is not rezoned North Suburban Development will
not purchase any more property.
Mr. Brixius stated that the City needs to know that other properties have been considered
regarding the rezone.
Mr. Kerber stated that they have already provided what Mr. Brixius is asking for
regarding all properties on the south side of 79th Street. Single Family Housing will be
developed on that portion of the property. Single Family Housing will be a nice blend for
the neighborhood.
Chair Schaps stated that there seems to be much disagreement between the applicant and
Mr. Brixius.
Mr. Kerber stated that is because he does not know how to provide Mr. Brixius with any
more information. If North Suburban Development proposes three different options, and
the property is not rezoned or they do not purchase the property, those options are
useless. The purchase agreements are contingent on a rezone. Any development plans
will still conform to City codes.
Mr. Johnson asked why the maps provided show different street alignments. Mr. Kerber
indicated different options are being presented due to ownership of property.
Chair Schaps asked if it is common to review a rezone proposal and the site plan at the
same time. Mr. Brixius stated that is common. The zoning needs to be consistent with
the Comprehensive Plan. His concern goes beyond the property that the applicant owns.
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The City would like to see a rough concept to tie together all the property for future
development.
Chair Schaps indicated he did not think that request was unreasonable.
Mr. Kerber stated that if he does not know where roads will be developed he cannot
present the entire site plan.
Chair Schaps stated that he should then acquire all property before presenting a site plan.
Mr. Kerber stated that if he had some direction from the City he could present a site plan.
Mr. Corson asked if the applicant presented a ghost plat that would be acceptable to the
City. Mr. Brixius indicated that is what he is looking for. Because this is just a small
triangular portion of land, he is not looking for a land survey. Mr. Brixius stated that he
is asking for an idea about development that will preserve the rights of the current
property owners.
Mr. Corson asked about coaving. Mr. Brixius stated that coaving had been approved for
Highland Meadows.
Mr. Kerber stated that they are dealing with a very small property and are not going to do
anything to dissatisfy current residents. At the neighborhood meeting one of the issues
was the neighborhood did not want townhomes on 79th Street. The neighborhood wants
a nice flow going into Highland Meadows. Mr. Kerber referred to a map showing 79th
Street and possible access. He stated that there are many variables to work with.
Mr. Corson asked if presenting a ghost plat would be a problem. Mr. Kerber stated that a
ghost plat was done with Highland Meadows. A ghost plat is very difficult to do because
the area is so small.
Mr. Dunn stated that if the Board were reviewing this in January, 1999, the
Comprehensive Plan would be in place. Conceptually, the Task Force is in agreement
with what Mr. Kerber is presenting. Because the Planning and Zoning board is an
advisory Board, Mr. Kerber will need City Council approval. The Planning and Zoning
Board cannot guarantee the R -3 zoning. Mr. Dunn suggested that Mr. Kerber work with
City Staff to address the City's issues.
Mr. Kerber stated that adhering to the City's request would be just like adding lines to a
piece of paper. It will have no meaning.
Mr. Dunn indicated the City did not see it that way. North Suburban Development, Inc.,
is the ultimate benefactor from this effort.
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Mr. Kerber stated that initially they had considered a ghost plat. They felt it was a
useless tool. The critical tool regarding this development is the rezone.
Chair Schaps stated that Mr. Brixius will work with North Suburban Development, Inc.,
to resolve the City's concerns. When Mr. Brixius is satisfied that these issues have been
resolved, he will recommend approval to the Planning and Zoning Board.
Mr. Brixius indicated he is looking for an assurance of quality development. Mr. Wessel
stated that City Staff are available to work with the developer to complete this project.
Mr. Kerber stated that he did not know how to satisfy Mr. Brixius.
Chair Schaps directed Mr. Kerber to work with City Staff.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to continue Highland Meadows II (Gusse Property) Rezone
to the July 8, 1998, Planning and Zoning Meeting, and was supported by Mr. Dunn.
Mr. Johnson asked when the Comprehensive Plan will be in place. Mr. Wessel stated
that the target for the Comprehensive Plan is the end of 1998.
Motion carried 6 -0.
B. PUBLIC HEARING, Holly Estates, 1101 Holly Drive, Preliminary
Plat/Planned Development Overlay
Mr. Wessel announced that Mr. Tom Sohrweide, SEH Transportation Engineer, is present
to answer any engineering questions regarding this plat as Mr. Ahrens is on vacation.
Mr. Brixius stated that K.C. Development Corporation is requesting preliminary plat
approval for an 11 lot single family subdivision entitled Holly Estates. The subject five
acre site lies west of 12th Avenue, and north of Holly Drive. the site is zoned R -1X,
Single Family Executive Residential District.
To allow a degree of design flexibility within the subdivision, the applicant has requested
a PDO, Planned Development Overlay.
Mr. Brixius stated that the Park Board has recommended the following at its May 4,
1998, meeting.
1. A transportation trail be provided along Holly Drive eastward to the Trappers
Crossing cul -de -sac.
2. The Park Board further decided they would like a cash dedication in lieu of land.
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Chair Schaps verified that what is needed from the P &Z is an endorsement of the PDO
and formal action on the Preliminary Plat.
Mr. Corson stated that the developer for Trappers Crossing paid for sewer and road
improvement. He asked what this plat will dedicate. Mr. Brixius indicated that this issue
will be raised with the City Council. Mr. Corson stated that he would like to see
consistency.
Mr. Trehus asked if it was possible to move the pond over to eliminate the need for the
PDO. Mr. Brixius stated that the drainage function of the pond was best suited in the
proposed site.
Mr. Johnson asked what the City would be receiving to justify the PDO. Mr. Brixius
stated that Trappers Crossing had a similar plan. The City will be getting a development
that will fit into this site. The integrity of the zoning will be maintained.
Mr. Schaps noted that most of the current members of the Planning and Zoning Board
were not involved with Trappers Crossing. He stated that the narrowness of the two
corner lots concerned him. Mr. Brixius stated that the lots can maintain the side setbacks.
Mr. Dunn stated that Trappers Crossing involved more lots. He expressed concern
regarding a precedence being set by the City. Although Trappers Crossing was granted a
PDO, a broad scale for another development is not necessarily justified. He stated that
the lot sizes are too small, there is a traffic hazard at the corner of Holly Drive, and ditch
25 could cause a problem.
Chair Schaps asked about eliminating one lot. Mr. Brixius stated that if one lot is
eliminated there is not the need for a PDO. Chair Schaps asked if eliminating one lot has
been considered by the applicant. The applicant indicated he wanted to pursue the 11 lot
PDO.
Mr. Corson stated that Holly Drive reminded him of Ware Road because of children and
bike traffic. He asked about possible trail options. Ms. Wyland indicated that the
proposed trail along Holly Drive to Lot #1 is for the purpose of gaining access to Birch
Park through Trappers Crossing.
Mr. Corson asked about any comments from the Rice Creek Watershed District. Ms.
Wyland indicated that the Rice Creek Watershed District has reviewed a permit
application and approval of the permit is pending.
Mr. Dunn wondered why this item was already scheduled for City Council
approval/denial when the Planning and Zoning Board has not given a recommendation.
Mr. Brixius stated that it was on the schedule for a City Council Meeting. A
recommendation is still required from the Planning and Zoning Board.
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Mr. Chuck Lund, K.C. Development Co., stated that when the project began he was
unaware of the 90' lot requirements. Because it is a small development, he would not
like to lose even one lot. Financially, losing one lot would be a hardship because they
still have to develop all the streets. The lots that overlook the creek will sell for a
substantial amount of money.
Chair Schaps declared the public hearing open at 7:30 p.m.
Ms. Sue Walseth, 1101 Holly Drive, came forward and stated that ditch 25 is 115' from
her property. The 10 lots she owns would have a very small impact on ditch 25. She
stated that there are currently trails on busy streets in the City. She indicated that Lot #8
is within 6' of the minimum specification. Ms. Walseth stated that there is not wetland
on lot #1. The lot sizes on Lots #1 and #2 are larger than the minimum specifications.
She stated that the corner lot width has been reduced the length is larger than what is
required. Ms. Walseth encouraged the Board to allow the sale of her 10 lots to go
through. She stated that City recommended development of her property many years ago.
Mr. Dunn asked if she is the current owner of the property. Ms. Walseth stated that she is
the current owner of the property.
Chair Schaps asked for a motion to close the public hearing and indicated the Preliminary
Plat would go before Council on June 22, 1998.
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to close the public hearing at 7:40 p.m., and was
supported by Mr. Trehus. Motion carried 6 -0.
Mr. Dunn asked if Mr. Ahrens has looked at the safety of the corner road. Ms. Wyland
stated that OSM and Dave Ahrens had reviewed the plat and indicated no concerns with
the road configuration.
Mr. Dunn asked if Mr. Ahrens said the road is not a hazard. Ms. Wyland stated any
concern regarding the road would have been indicated in the report.
Mr. Trehus asked what trails were developed for Trappers Crossing.
Chair Schaps indicated a trail was developed and the end of the north cul -de -sac which is
intended to access Birch Park. Ms. Wyland stated that future trails have also been
indicated on the south end of Trappers Crossing.
Mr. Trehus asked about the time frame for these trails. Ms. Wyland stated that the north
trail is going to be constructed very soon. The Park Director is currently working on the
development of that trail.
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Mr. Trehus asked what the developer dedicated for that trail. Ms. Wyland stated that the
developer provided the land for the trail and rough grade and rock.
Chair Schaps stated that Trappers Crossing needed 4 -5 meetings to obtain approval.
Trappers Crossing started with 160 lots. The final number of lots was reduced by 20%
for many reasons. He stated that he believes these lot sizes are too small and it would not
be unreasonable to reduce the development by one lot. If the development is reduced by
one lot, a PDO is not required. The preliminary plat could be reconfigured.
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to deny the PDO request on the grounds that it does not
meet the requirements, and was supported by Mr. Dunn. Motion carried 5 -1 with Mr.
Schilling voting no.
Mr. Corson made a MOTION to approve the Preliminary Plat with the R -1X requirement
and subject to the following conditions:
1. Reconfigure Lots 9 and 11 to bring lot 8 to minimum district standard
requirements.
2. The forthcoming final plat include ten foot wide utility easements centered on rear
and other lot lines. Drainage easements should also be placed over the site's
wetlands. This item should be subject to further comment by the City Engineer.
3. The submitted grading and drainage plan is subject to review and comment by the
City Engineer.
4. A utility plan is submitted subject to review and approval by the City Engineer.
5. Trail corridors by provided along Holly Drive eastward to the Trappers Crossing
cul -de- sac.
6. If applicable, a phasing plan is submitted subject to City approval.
7. Comments from other City Staff.
Mr. Dunn made a friendly amendment adding that Mr. Ahrens review the safety of the
corner road regarding traffic. The MOTION to amend was supported by Mr. Dunn.
Motion carried 5 -1 with Mr. Schilling voting no.
C. PUBLIC HEARING, Lake Center Partners, I -35W and Lake Drive, Planned
Development Overlay
JADT Development Group, LLC is requesting planned development overly concept plan
approval for a 144,500 square foot retail commercial development to the east and south of
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Lake Drive and 77th Street. The proposed development is to be a mix of retail, restaurant
and other commercial uses (i.e. bank) within 11 buildings for the first phase of the
development. A second phase is intended to occur to the ease of Phase I, although no
plans have been formalized for that portion of development. The approximate 28.5 acre
parcel is zoned SC, Shopping Center District.
Mr. Wessel stated that the proposed 144,500 square foot development to be constructed is
generally consistent with the intent of the Comprehensive Plan and Shopping Center and
PDO provisions of he Zoning Ordinance from a Concept Plan perspective.
Mr. Wessel asked the Board for an endorsement of the concept plan subject to the
applicant addressing the following issues:
1. Redesign of the Site Plan in consideration of the following factors:
Cluster stand alone buildings around shared parking lots.
Reduce the number of access to the Apollo Drive extension.
Consideration for the location of a proposed village bridge.
Provide at minimum one loading area per structure.
Provide sufficient stacking space and a by -pass in association with
proposed drive - throughs.
* Include more pedestrian circulation opportunities throughout the
development.
* Provide a 50 foot principal building setback from Apollo Drive.
2. Resolve location of Apollo Drive /77th Street Intersection.
3. Accesses to development from Lake Drive should compliment interior site
circulation.
4. Reduce parking stall supply to a number more approximate to the estimated
parking stall requirement outlined herein.
5. Explore alternative options for reducing the number of required parking stalls and
methods of construction as suggested by the Environmental Board.
• 6. Indicate provision of significant landscaping along north property line of Phase I
to screen loading areas of the 72,000 square foot building.
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7. Address the infiltration issues identified by the Environmental Review Board.
8. Coordinate a tree preservation plan with the City Forester.
9. Comments of other City Staff.
Mr. Wessel indicated he recommends approval of the concept plan pending approval of
the Planning and Zoning Board and resident feedback. He stated that the applicant would
like to go before the City Council in July, 1998. McDonalds would like to come before
the Planning and Zoning Board in August, 1998, and begin construction in the fall. They
would like to be operating by the end of 1998.
Mr. Wessel stated that Tim Baylor, developer, Ron Krank, architect, and Dan Engstrom,
a representative from McDonalds, are present to speak to the Board.
Mr. Baylor came forward and stated that it has been a pleasure to work the City Staff of
Lino Lakes. When the project began, they were just looking for a site for a new
McDonalds store. The vision of Lino Lakes is much broader than anticipated. Putting
the whole package together was very difficult. The group that has been put together to
develop this project is top notch. He believes the project is in the best interest of the City.
The timing is good in regards to the growth potential of the City. Mr. Baylor stated that
interest from retailers and developers is already being generated regarding this project.
Mr. Krank came forward and briefly discussed the architectural design of the project. He
stated that K. K. Architects has much expertise in the design of shopping centers. Other
projects they have developed include: Tamarack Village, Woodbury Village, Mall of
America, Golden Valley Commons, McDonalds at Southtown Center, and the
McDonalds at Miracle Mile Center.
Mr. Krank stated that the project does include good visuals, traffic constraints, and the
City vision of I35 -W south. He indicated that the site layout with current road
configuration led to dialog for the retail interest.
Mr. Krank then went over sketches for the proposed project. They are proposing a large
retail building with smaller shops that will include a restaurant, ban, gas station, and drug
store. They are proposing a series of small parking lots with common lighting and
landscaping.
The next step of the project is to take it to the market. The purpose of the presentation
tonight is to share their vision with the Planning and Zoning Board. The developers must
now take the concept to large retailers and test the concept. Mr. Krank stated that he is
looking for concept approval from the Board. He stated he is aware that they must come
back before the Board with detailed site plans.
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Chair Schaps asked the location of the first tenant. Mr. Krank referred to a map and
explained where the first retailer (McDonalds) will be located.
Mr. Brixius stated that he is very excited about the project. He indicated that the
proposed project is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and the long term zoning
plan. He stated that Staff has reviewed the plan in detail. He noted that the access off of
Lake Drive would be signaled. He also noted that zoning is place and is consistent.
Mr. Corson asked about the landscaping and possible berming on 77th Street. He also
expressed concern regarding Phase I and II regarding storm water ponding and the
wetland indicated on the plat. Mr. Brixius indicated that landscaping options and
berming on 77th Street will be included in Phase II of the project. The wetland and
drainage issues will be addressed in the development phase.
Mr. Dunn asked about the proposed grocery store square footage. Mr. Krank indicated
that the proposed square footage for the grocery store is 35,000 - 40,000 square feet. That
square footage is approximately half of a typical Rainbow Foods grocery store. Mr.
Krank stated that market research has shown that the market would support a grocery
store of this size.
Mr. Dunn stated that the Cub in White Bear Lake was restricted regarding square footage.
He believes that was a mistake. He asked if the market research accounted for
population. He would like to see expanded vision regarding the square footage of the
grocery store. Mr. Krank indicated that grocery retailers carefully analyze the market.
The market research could possibly be shared with the Board when it is completed.
Mr. Dunn asked if the concept plan is possibly setting a cap on what is being strived for.
Mr. Krank explained that they go to the retailers and show them the market and the site.
The retailers work within those boundaries.
Mr. Dunn asked if a formula is used in the market research that reflects residential
growth. Mr. Krank indicated that a formula is used and possibly that could be shared
with the Board.
Mr. Dunn asked if the concept plan allowed for flexibility on the square footage of the
sites. Mr. Krank indicated that the concept plan did allow for flexibility.
Mr. Dunn asked if the developer is receptive to working with the Town Center
Committee. He also asked if 14,000 square feet would accommodate a typical
Walgreens. Mr. Krank stated that he is going through the architectural designs with the
architect for the Town Center. He indicated that 14,000 square feet is the prototype for
all Walgreen stores.
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Mr. Dunn stated that the City has waited for a center for many years. He asked for Mr.
Wessel's professional opinion of the project. He asked Mr. Wessel if he believes that this
is what the City is looking for and why.
Mr. Wessel stated that he is very comfortable with this project. He believes that this is
what the City is looking for. He stated he is looking for flexibility in the concept plan.
Every individual project will go through the Town Center Committee, Planning and
Zoning Board, and City Council. The Apollo Drive extension is important regarding the
consideration of this project. He stated that if the project is developed correctly, it will be
a real contribution to the City of Lino Lakes.
Mr. Dunn stated that he believes this project does support a PDO because of the creativity
involved. He asked if there was a way to forego the tabling of the PDO and move to
approve the concept plan this evening. Mr. Brixius stated that the Board could endorse
the concept plan this evening. He encouraged the Board to listen to comments from the
public.
Mr. Trehus stated that the site plan appears to be user friendly to cars but not pedestrians.
He also expressed concern regarding the residents in the area. He stated that unless there
is a plan for redevelopment in the area the residents property is not valuable. Mr. Krank
indicated that there are two residential and two commercial properties adjoining the site.
He believes that the City will want to develop that land. The proposal leaves a 50' buffer
between the property. Mr. Krank stated that the proposal is pedestrian friendly. The plan
encourages people to park their cars and walk from business to business. With a more
detailed plan, paths will be indicated from building to building.
Mr. Trehus asked about the possibility of placing the buildings closer together, which
would be consistent with the Village concept. Mr. Krank stated that was difficult to do as
they are trying to create an edge for the property.
Mr. Trehus asked if the phasing plans will be done in clusters. Mr. Baylor stated that the
scale of the project will dictate where retailers will be placed. At this point, retailers have
been placed where they are most appropriate. Mr. Baylor indicated that he is anticipating
multiple site plans will be presented.
Mr. Trehus asked how the architectural design compares to the Town Center. Mr. Baylor
stated he has not yet seen the guidelines for the Town Center. The project will try to
accommodate those guidelines.
Mr. Wessel stated that the City has not yet given the design team any guidelines. The
discussion regarding design will begin next week. Mr. Wessel stated that he anticipates a
more commercial look for this project than the Town Center. All of these issues will
come before the Planning and Zoning Board at a future date.
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• Mr. Trehus expressed a concern regarding infiltration for the future pond. Mr. Krank
stated that a Civil Engineering Firm will be hired to resolve the ponding issues.
Chair Schaps asked if any consideration has been given to pedestrian rest areas. Mr.
Wessel indicated a focus will be put on pedestrian movement.
Chair Schaps asked how large the proposed retailer will be in Phase II. Mr. Krank
indicated the retailer in Phase II will be 100,00 square feet.
Chair Schaps asked if the representative from McDonalds would like to address the
Board.
Mr. Engstrom came forward and stated that he was available for any questions from the
Board. He stated that he will be back to present to the Board the final plans in August,
1998.
Chair Schaps asked if he was anticipating local ownership of the McDonalds and if there
will be a playland. Mr. Engstrom stated that he was unsure if the McDonalds would be a
franchise or a local ownership. He indicated there will not be a playland. The total
square footage of this unit will be 6,000.
111 Mr. Corson asked if specific market driven units will see pad sites connected. Mr.
Wessel indicated they will try to cluster the pad sites.
Mr. Trehus expressed concern regarding drainage going across I35 -W. He believes they
need to be very cautious so a large amount of water will not go into area lakes. Mr.
Brixius stated that this will be reviewed in the future.
Mr. Wessel stated that the Rice Creek Watershed District will be involved in the project.
Chair Schaps declared the public hearing open at 8:55 p.m.
Mr. Wessel stated that he had received a letter from Ann Iota, who is not present. She
expressed concern regarding the projects impact on Carol Drive and its residents. She
asked about the possibility of a cul -de -sac on the south end of Carol Drive eliminating
direct access from 77th Street. Mr. Wessel stated that he forwarded the suggestion to the
City Engineer. Mr. Wessel indicated that Ms. Wyland had also received a call from a
resident on Carol Drive with similar concerns.
Roy Stanley, 700 and 702 77th Street, expressed concern regarding the widening of 77th
Street for traffic accommodation, utilities and assessments regarding the project, and
lighting at the end of 77th Street.
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Mr. Wessel stated that improvements to 77th Street will be made. He could not address
Mr. Stanley concerns this evening. He stated that those concerns will be addressed in the
future.
George Palace, 7722 Marilyn, expressed concern regarding the lighting for the project.
He asked the Board to consider how far the lighting will bleed over into the
neighborhoods.
Tom Vacha, 7702 Lake Drive, asked about Lake Drive being able to absorb all the traffic
from 77th Street. Mr. Wessel stated that Lake Drive will be upgraded to a 4 lane road.
He stated that he is securing a study from SEH explaining the ramifications of the
development. He will receive the report in a few weeks. Mr. Vacha indicated that there
is too much traffic already. He would like to see the road built before the project begins
to accommodate the traffic.
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to close the public hearing at 9:00 p.m.., and was
supported by Mr. Corson. Motion carried 6 -0.
Chair Schaps asked for a show of hands from the Board of those in favor of the project
and endorsement of the concept plan. All Board members raised their hands.
D. Paul Munoz, 55 Ash Street, Variance
Ms. Wyland stated that Paul and Dorothy Munoz have resided at 55 Ash Street since the
late 1970's and have experienced several changes along County Road J. /Ash Street.
Their property is on the north/east corner of Ash Street (County Road J.) and Baldwin
Lake Road. The most recent change experienced was the widening of County Road J.
from Hodgson Road to the west. This widening resulted in the condemnation of
approximately 17' of their property and the removal of a row of mature evergreen trees.
Since the roadway improvement, several property owners across County Road J. have
installed board on board 6' privacy fences on their rear property lines. These properties
are located in Shoreview. With the completion of each fence installation, the noise
experienced on the Munoz property has increased. They are now requesting permission
to install a similar fence.
Ms. Wyland indicated staff recommended approval of the variance subject to Anoka
County Sight Line Standards as they relate to the intersection of Baldwin Lake Road and
County Road J.
Mr. Johnson asked where the fence will be located. Ms. Wyland stated the fence will be
placed on the inside front row of pine trees toward the house.
Mr. Trehus stated that additional right -of -way may be required if County Road J. is
extended to a 4 lane road. He indicated that visibility is also a concern. Ms. Wyland
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• stated that currently there is enough right -of -way to support a 4 lane road. Anoka County
Sight Line Standards will apply to relate to any visibility concerns.
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Mr. Johnson stated that any obstruction of visibility would come from the trees, not the
fence.
Ms. Munoz came forward and explained the location of the proposed fence. She stated
that currently noise from the traffic is a real problem.
Mr. Corson suggested the City Engineer review to ensure the sight line is adequate.
Mr. Trehus asked if the applicant has considered a 4' fence.
Ms. Munoz stated that she hoped the City would be more sympathetic to their problem
and allow the 6' fence. She stated that they did not ask for the road widening.
Mr. Dunn stated that he believes the variance is justified. A 6' fence is appropriate. He
stated that he does not see a site line problem occurring. Mr. Dunn asked if the fence did
conform to the Anoka County Sight Line Standards. Ms. Wyland indicated that she is
unsure of the County's Sight Line Standards. If the Planning and Zoning Board
recommends approval, the County will be notified.
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to approve variance subject to Anoka County Sight Line
Standards as they relate to the intersection of Baldwin Lake Road and County Road J.,
justified by the following circumstances:
1. County Road J. is a heavily traveled roadway.
2. The front property line has been reduced with the previous road construction.
3. A natural sound barrier has been removed.
4. An echo effect has been created with the fences across the roadway.
Mr. Corson made a friendly amendment to have the City Engineer review to ensure the
site line is adequate. Mr. Johnson accepted this as an amendment to his motion.
The MOTION was seconded by Mr. Dunn. Motion carried 6 -0
E. Joan Tschida, 7090 21st. Avenue, Variance
• This item has been temporarily withdrawn by the applicant.
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F. James Brandl, 7057 Rice Lake Court, Variance
Ms. Wyland stated that Mr. James Brandl, 7057 Rice Lake Court, is requesting a variance
to allow the construction of a 32 x 28 detached garage 19' from the property line. The
Zoning Ordinance requires a setback of 30', therefore, the variance requested is for 11'.
Mr. Brandl's property is located on the corner of Rice Lake Lane and Rice Lake Court.
The proposed garage will face Rice Lake Court. Mr. Brandl has recently removed two
structures from his property, a 24 x 24 car port and a 12 x 20 barn that was located in the
same position as the proposed garage. The total square footage proposed will be within
the requirements of the Ordinance as will the number of accessory buildings allowed.
Mr. Johnson stated that this is a very large lot. He asked if the lot could be subdivided.
Ms. Wyland indicated the lot cannot be subdivided because of the wetland south of the
home.
Chair Schaps stated that there was a similar situation a couple years ago where a building
was constructed too close to the property line. Ms. Wyland indicated that the Council
determined there were unique circumstances and granted that variance.
Mr. Trehus asked if the similar situation involved a shed. Ms. Wyland stated that it was
an accessory building and the setbacks requirements are the same.
Mr. Trehus asked if a building this size is permitted in an R -1 zoning. Ms. Wyland
indicated one detached building this size is permitted.
Mr. Trehus asked if the wetland was counted in the lot square footage. Ms. Wyland
stated that the wetland was not factored in.
Chair Schaps stated that in this case two buildings have already been removed. In the
past similar situation, buildings had not been removed.
Mr. Dunn made a MOTION to approve variance as requested, and was supported by Mr.
Johnson. Motion carried 6 -0.
VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mr. Dunn asked Ms. Wyland for a informational sheet regarding the City's position
regarding zoning request and site plans. Ms. Wyland indicated she would provide the
Board with that information.
Mr. Trehus announced that there is a Focus Group Meeting on June 11, 1998, 6:30 p.m.
at City Hall. He invited those present to attend. Mr. Trehus also noted that in the future
the size of the maps in the packets will be l i x 17.
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Chair Schaps noted there is a City Council Work Session regarding the Comprehensive
Plan on Monday, June 15, 1998, 4:30 p.m., at Centennial Middle School. There is a
Town Center Meeting Thursday, June 18, 6:00 p.m. Also, there is a Comprehensive Plan
Task Force Meeting on Thursday, June 25, 1998, 6:00 p.m. at City Hall.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Dunn made a MOTION to adjourn the meeting at 9:27 p.m., and was supported by
Mr. Corson. Motion carried 6 -0.
Respectfully Submitted,
Kim Points, Recording Secretary
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