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Planning & Zoning Board
February 12, 1997
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CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES
DATE
TIME STARTED
TIME ENDED
MEMBERS PRESENT
MEMBERS ABSENT
STAFF PRESENT
: February 12, 1997
: 6:30 p.m.
: 9:45 p.m.
: Dahl, Dunn, Herr, Johnson, Schaps
Gelbmann arrived at 6:35 p.m.
: Robinson
: Planning Coordinator Wyland, City Engineer
Ahrens, Economic Development Director
Wessel, Planning Consultant Alan Brixius
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL:
Chair Schaps called the Lino Lakes Planning & Zoning Board meeting to order at
6:30 p.m., January 8, 1997.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - DECEMBER 11, 1996
Mr. Herr made a MOTION to approve the minutes of the December 11, 1996
Lino Lakes Planning & Zoning Board meeting, as submitted. He was supported
by Mr. Johnson. Motion carried 5 -0.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA - CHANGES /ADDITIONS
There were none.
IV. OPEN MIKE
Chair Schaps declared the Open Mike portion of the meeting at 6:32 p.m.
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to close the Open Mike portion of the meeting at
6:33 p.m. and was supported by Ms. Dahl. Motion carried unanimously, 5 -0.
V. ACTION ITEMS
A. 97 -1 Public Hearing - Millers South Glen - Rezone /Preliminary
Plat/Interim MUSA Reserve
Mr. Brixius stated that this application was previously tabled by the Board and is
being resubmitted by Richard S. Carlson Associates for a subdivision of 49
single family homes called Millers South Glen on 27.9 acres of land north of
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62nd Street and east of Ware Road. The application includes allocating 27.9
acres of interim MUSA reserve area to this property if the development is
approved. The City is being requested to vacate an existing road easement
within the property. A variance is being requested to allow a cul -de -sac that will
be greater than 500 feet in length. Trail connections have been requested and
are included. A traffic study was recently completed for the proposed
development.
Mr. Gelbmann arrived at 6:35 p.m.
Mr. Brixius reported that the City has specific policies on how its MUSA reserve
is allocated. MUSA applications are subject to the following criteria:
1. MUSA reserve application shall be considered at the time of
preliminary plat approval
2. The property in question shall be zoned R -1 or R-1X or a rezoning
application be in process in conjunction with the preliminary plat but
is not guaranteed approval.
3. The property in question must be immediately adjacent to existing
MUSA.
4. Development of the property must be considered a natural
extension of existing roadways.
5. Development of the property must be considered a natural
extension of existing roadways.
6. Development of the property shall not adversely affect the health,
welfare, and general safety of the community.
7. Development of the property shall be environmentally compatible
with the surrounding area.
8. Development of the property shall be consistent with the City's
Comprehensive Park Plan.
9. Development of the property shall be consistent with the City's
Comprehensive Sewer and Water Plan.
10. The proposed development shall comply with the City's infill policy
as outlined by Resolution No. 92 -85.
11. Roadways serving the proposed development shall be determined
adequate according to city engineering standards to handle the
additional traffic generated by the proposed development or a
financial commitment shall be made by the developer to upgrade
said roadway(s).
Mr. Brixius stated that the development is consistent with the City's
Comprehensive Plan and is compatible with the surrounding area. The MUSA
criteria still in question are Nos. 5. 6. and 11., which relate to roadways. Public
services could be extended from Pine Ridge Second Addition, which would be a
logical extension. The plat, as designed, meets R-1X District minimum
dimensions in lot area and width. There is a street jog which is recommended to
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be realigned to achieve a full intersection. The applicant is willing to comply with
that recommendation.
Mr. Brixius stated that the cul -de -sac variance has been reviewed. It is the
overall consensus of the Public Works Director and City Engineer that there is
sufficient hardship to justify the variance. Staff is recommending approval of the
variance if the project is approved. Wetland mitigation is subject to the Rice
Creek Watershed District regulations and the City Engineer's review. Park and
trail issues are addressed in the preliminary plat.
Mr. Glen Van Wormer, Traffic Engineer from Short, Elliott, Hendrickson
engineering firm (SEH), stated that his firm was contracted by the City for a
traffic study. Single family dwellings are projected to generate 10 trips per day.
With a 48 -lot subdivision 480 trips would be generated daily. Estimates include
peak hours of 48 trips in the evening rush hour. Approximately two - thirds of
those cars would be going east and the rest traveling west. Approximately 30
additional trips are estimated for the morning rush hour that would be traveling
south to County Road J or north to Birch Street. All traffic entering and exiting
the proposed subdivision must use 62nd Street and Ware Road. The
distribution of development generated traffic will further change if West Shadow
Lake Drive is extended to County Road J. This extension would also open
opportunities for additional development. If development grows to the south,
traffic could decrease as roads are extended to accommodate those
developments.
Mr. Dunn asked how many residential homes were used for traffic calculations,
noting that the project is divided into different phases.
Mr. Van Wormer answered that the calculations are based on the addition of 48
homes in the first phase. The ultimate study used an additional 29 homes in the
second phase, and a possible 23 homes in the future to the east as well as 18
buildable Tots to the south of 62nd Street were also considered. That is a total
of 116 units.
Mr. Van Wormer stated that the ability of the exiting roadway to handle traffic
jams was reviewed. With full build -out, turn lanes would not be necessary on
62nd Street. However, the condition of Ware Road is not good and is wearing
out from a structural standpoint.
Mr. Gelbmann asked where the current traffic loads currently exist.
Mr. Van Wormer responded that Ware Road has 1,200 cars per day with 120
cars in the p.m. peak hours. This information was provided by Mn /DOT.
• Chair Schaps asked if there is a projection as to how long Ware Road will last
based on these projections.
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Mr. Ahrens stated that there are two parts to the transportation issue: 1) the
impact of the new traffic from the proposed development, and 2) the condition of
Ware Road. Ware Road is currently 22 feet wide with minimal or no shoulders.
It does not meet current design standards of 32 feet width with curb and gutter,
or 30 feet with no curb and gutter and shoulders. It is substantially deficient and
is the second worst road in the City. However, 62nd Street is a good road and
ranks high in the pavement management system. There have been preliminary
discussions about Ware Road. The City Council would like to undertake
reconstruction. A realistic schedule for such a project would be ordering a
feasibility study in March to look at detailed issues of reconstruction, finance,
special assessments, drainage, etc. The feasibility study could be completed by
May, and the Council could call a public hearing by the end of June.
Improvements could begin by the end of the year or spring of 1998.
Mr. Ahrens noted that Ware Road is a Minnesota State Aid (MSA) road, and the
City has a current balance of $790,000 for MSA road improvements for 1997. It
is anticipated that $310,000 will be received for the 1998 reconstruction season.
He projected the cost of the Ware Road project to be $1.1 million. The estimate
from County Road J to Birch Street is $1.2 million. The developer has agreed to
pay $2,000 per lot from the development toward road improvements. This would
amount to an additional $96,000 the City would have toward the project.
• Mr. Johnson asked at what point in the process the Council would give the actual
decision to go forward with this project in the schedule outlined by Mr. Ahrens.
Mr. Ahrens stated approval of the feasibility report would indicate a strong desire
on the part of the Council to move ahead with the project. Once a bid is
awarded to the project the project will be actually underway.
Chair Schaps asked if the MSA dollars are earmarked for any other projects.
Mr. Ahrens answered that the Council has indicated that the entire amount could
be used to improve Ware Road, which is a collector street and designed to carry
heavier volumes of traffic. It is a high priority.
Mr. Johnson asked Mr. Ahrens to identify the worst road in the City.
Mr. Ahrens answered, West Shadow Lake Road north of Birch Street where
there are no utilities. Ware Road does have utilities except for one portion south
of 62nd Street.
Chair Schaps noted that with $1.1 million in MSA funds and a contribution of
$96,000 from the developer, there would be no cost to current residents for the
road improvement.
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Mr. Ahrens stated that City policy states that abutting property owners are
IIPassessed, but the decision on assessments is made by the City Council.
Chair Schaps asked if there is an estimate of what assessments might be.
Mr. Ahrens stated that the current assessment rate is $45 per front foot. Sewer
and water would be included.
Mr. Dunn noted that construction traffic during the process of development can
deteriorate the road condition by up to 50 percent. He asked how that is
factored into the project cost and if there is a way to recover those costs from the
developer.
Mr. Ahrens stated that the road would be designed to handle construction traffic
and take all factors into consideration. One way is to design the new road as a
9 -ton road rather than a 7 -ton road.
Mr. Herr asked how long the new road would be expected to last.
Mr. Ahrens stated that with minimum maintenance and built to current standards,
the road should last 20 to 25 years, If sealcoating were done every 7 years, the
road would last 50 years.
illChair Schaps asked if there are any plans for further extensions.
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Mr. Ahrens stated that he does not know the status of further extensions at this
time.
Mr. Rick Carlson thanked the Commission for their consideration and staff for
helping to resolve neighborhood issues. He introduced Mr. Ted Matke from
Matke Engineering. He stated that the 48 units are anticipated to sell in the
range of $160,000 to $250,000. He would like to begin as soon as possible, by
early summer of 1997 and finish by the fall of 1997. He has agreed to only take
out 15 permits in 1997. He distributed copies of the purchase agreement and
property covenants. He noted that the escrow agreement stipulates a $3,500
escrow per building site to insure the City that all requirements will be completed.
The site will not be released for building until the grading plan is completed
according to the development plan.
Mr. Carlson stated that he mailed 70 letters to residents within 650 feet of Millers
South Glen. He received one call from Mr. Nick Magnuson, who lives on the
corner of 62nd Street and Ware Road who is concerned about his septic system
failing and would be interested in hooking up to City utilities. At the
neighborhood meeting the issue of real estate taxes was raised and whether
these homes would be paying their fair share of taxes. Based on estimated
average market value, these homes will pay approximately 125 percent more in
school taxes.
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Mr. Matke stated that they have reached agreement on the drainage issue along
rear property lines with neighboring residents. It was found that there are dirt
piles in the swale, and most of the yards do not have sod yet. He has sent
letters notifying residents that the development plan will be upheld, and he will
make sure that drainage works in the spring. If there is a home that is too low for
proper drainage, it will be incorporated into the new development project to
achieve good drainage. He believes the problems and concerns of the
neighbors have been addressed, and they support the new project.
The Watershed District has indicated that the project is environmentally sound
with the creation of the ponds. There are 87.9 acres of land, and only 48 homes
will be built. That means there will be a lot of open space and big lots. It will be
a quality development.
Mr. Dunn asked how much wetland is affected by the development.
Mr. Matke responded that 1.01 acres of wetland are on the project site which will
be filled.
Mr. Dunn noted that County Ditch No. 25 is in the area and flows east and north
and ultimately into a lake. It has been identified as a major contributor of
phosphorus runoff into the lake. He asked what could be done in this
development to mitigate additional drainage through County Ditch No. 25.
Mr. Matke stated that this development will not have any drainage into County
Ditch No. 25, which is to the south of the development.
Chair Schaps opened the public hearing to public comment.
Ms. Rosemary Williams, 498 62nd Street, stated that the only problem she sees
with this development is that the Ware Road improvement has not been
approved. She would like to be assured that Ware Road will be reconstructed
and would like the road improvement project approved before the development
approval. Residents petitioned several years ago to upgrade Ware Road, but
the project was not done. She does not believe residents on Ware Road should
have to pay any assessments because of the increase in traffic and because
they will lose a portion of setback area. Ware Road is not safe without the
reconstruction, and this development would do more damage to an already bad
situation. She requested that the traffic study submitted by SEH be attached to
the minutes of this meeting.
Mr. Steve Wisner stated that Ware Road is substandard. He asked who will pay
to repair residents' vehicles. No one has addressed the safety factor of children
playing on substandard streets. He supports the development project but would
like to see the street issues resolved first.
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Mr. Tom Drau, 6317 Red Maple Lane, asked how assessments are calculated
for adjoining property to a road project.
Mr. Ahrens explained that assessments are calculated according to the number
of feet fronting the road being improved. The lot being assessed would have to
have frontage on the improved road.
Mr. Drau stated that 48 lots on 27.9 acres will be small lots. He asked how much
acreage will be used for roads and ponds and how much is buildable.
Mr. Matke responded that the average size lot is 50,000 square feet, including
the ponds.
Mr. Craig Harvey, 440 Coyote Trail, stated that he does not believe drainage can
be addressed because the current grade of his property is as high as it can be.
This means the lot to the rear of his property will have to be cut down to increase
the grade for sufficient drainage. His neighbor to the east also has a similar
grade.
Mr. Carlson stated that he intends to resolve the Harveys' drainage problem in
the spring. There are funds set aside in escrow that can be used. If the house is
too low, he will put in a window well.
Mr. Harvey stated that putting in a window well will bring the grade up to the level
of his window sill. Raising the grade higher on his house would put it above the
level of the foundation, which he does not believe to be common practice.
Otherwise, he supports the new development and believes it is well laid out.
Ms. Mary Olstad, 6130 Ware Road, stated that she agrees with Ms. Williams.
The development should not be done until after reconstruction of Ware Road,
and residents should not be assessed. She noted that many children play on
Ware Road, and there have been many near accidents. She is concerned about
the number of children with increased traffic and a speed limit of 45 mph.
Chair Schaps asked if the situation has improved with three -way stops.
Ms. Olstad stated that situation has improved a little, but before the handle is up
on a school bus cars zoom by.
Mr. Matke stated that everyone who lives on Ware Road is worried about
assessments. The City has state aid funds for state aid roads. This is what
those funds are to be used for. Assessments should only be to the extent that
the value of the property is increased.
Mr. Larry Rogers, 514 Linden Lane, stated that he supports Mr. Carlson and
would encourage the Board to approve this project. Mr. Carlson has quality
developments and has honest dealings with buyers and homeowners. He also
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does not believe it would be fair for the residents on Ware Road to bear the full
brunt of the cost to reconstruct it, but he would be willing to pay his fair share.
Ms. Olstad asked when 62nd Street will be improved. Without wider roads and
sidewalks, an influx of children from the new development will become a safety
issue. She asked if any parks are planned with this development so children
won't be playing in the street.
Mr. Matke stated that the development plan includes a proposal for a trail along
the north side of 62nd Street with this project. At this time no parks are planned.
There is an area of 13.4 acres of total park land that will be dedicated to the City
as part of the project. The area will be connected to Park Grove and Birch Wood
Acres and would be stubbed for a future connection west of Shadow Lake Drive.
There are four acres of upland which would be large enough for small ball fields.
Land for a trail connection will be provided from 62nd Street to the Park Grove
Park.
Ms. Jane Theilen, 561 Lonesome Pine Tr., emphasized the safety issue on
Ware Road. She would like to see the speed limit reduced to 30 mph. She also
suggested a bike path for children.
Ms. Wyland stated that there will be a trail provided along the north side of 62nd
Street and between the easterly side of the cul -de -sac that will connect to the
trail coming from Linden Lane. Both trails will meet and go into the Park Grove
Park which will be connected to the park land being dedicated. The Park Board
is currently working on the development o f this park.
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to close the public hearing at 7:50 p.m. and was
supported by Dahl.
Ms. Wyland stated that there is a trail graded on the east side of Ware Road. At
Fox Trace, the trail is on the west side. As developments occur, trail dedications
will be required by the City for further connections.
Chair Schaps asked what assurance there is that plans to reconstruct Ware
Road will be approved by the City Council in March 1997, before Mr. Carlson
develops this property.
Mr. Ahrens stated that the Council has expressed a desire to upgrade Ware
Road in 1998, but there is no guarantee that it will be done this year. Funding is
the major issue.
Chair Schaps asked if it is scheduled on the Council agenda.
Mr. Ahrens stated that it will be discussed at the next Council work session.
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Mr. Brixius stated that from a planning perspective, the Board could defer action
until there is a City Council decision. The comments heard from the public are
legitimate. If the Council is not prepared to take action, this development
proposal may be premature. If the Council is prepared to act, the contributions
from the developer will make it easier.
Chair Schaps asked if all five actions can be conditioned to approval of the road
improvement project.
Mr. Brixius answered that all actions can be subject to that condition. He noted
that specific conditions in the report that apply to the preliminary plat and
determinations of MUSA criteria are dependent upon the City's response to the
issue of Ware Road.
Mr. Herr asked at what point residents have the opportunity to petition out of the
project.
Mr. Ahrens stated that at the time of the public hearing on the feasibility study,
which may be in June, residents would have the opportunity to present a petition.
Mr. Johnson noted that after the public hearing there is a waiting period of 60
days before the Council can order the plans and specifications, which would be
late August.
Chair Schaps asked Mr. Carlson when he would expect to begin the project.
Mr. Carlson stated that nothing can be done until the Council takes action. After
Council approval, he would anticipate 60 to 90 days to begin. He noted that he
is limiting the number of building permits that can be done in 1997.
Mr. Dunn stated that the reallocation of MUSA is the first decision and is
fundamental to the whole project. He is uncomfortable with the safety issues
raised by residents and does not believe that criteria for MUSA is fulfilled.
Residents have testified that roadways are the fundamental issue, and they
should be the fundamental issue for the Planning & Zoning Board. He believes
Mr. Carlson will build fine homes for the neighborhood, and the tax base is
favorable to help the community, but he does not believe MUSA requirements
can be justified at this time. There is the issue of assessments and residents'
reactions. If everything in this area is rezoned, there will be nothing left to
address for the Comprehensive Task Force Plan. Many questions are not
answered. Approval of the first plat starts the domino effect to approving
everything related to the development. He would like to see the development go
forward, but the timing is premature and he would prefer to delay action until the
Ware Road issue is resolved.
Mr. Herr agreed but also believes this development is consistent with
surrounding development. Ware Road is the paramount issue, but he would be
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in favor of the project making it contingent upon Council approval of
improvements to Ware Road.
Mr. Johnson stated that the Board can only make recommendations to the
Council who can do as they wish. He would recommend approval, subject to the
Council's firm commitment to the Ware Road project. He would like to see the
Board send a strong message to the Council that this project should not be
approved until the Council is committed to the Ware Road project.
Chair Schaps stated that the fear is that the project will be built, but the road will
not be done. He noted that houses will not be salable if customers have to drive
on a poor road. Bad roads deter sales. This project more than anything may
push the road project to be done. There will be Tess incentive for the road
reconstruction if the project is delayed. He agreed with Mr. Johnson about letting
the Council set the schedule.
Mr. Gelbmann stated that he would approve the project which will test the
Council's resolve for this improvement. He also agreed that this project will drive
the needed road improvement.
Mr. Brixius suggested that before making any recommendations, it be noted that
it was the consensus of the Planning & Zoning Board that the Ware Road project
is a priority and will support the Council in their consideration of the road
improvements. The Board supports the Council's position as to what needs to
be done for the City. With this improvement and also as a condition of approval
the applicants' agreement to assist with financing, this may be an opportunity
that otherwise may be missed. With that preface, the Board would recommend
approval subject to the Ware Road improvement being undertaken.
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to recommend approval of the South Millers Glen
development project, including rezoning to R -1 X, approval of the preliminary plat
and interim MUSA allocation; acquisition of 27.9 acres of the City's interim MUSA
reserve; vacation of an existing road easement within the property; and variance
to allow a cul -de -sac in excess of 500 feet in length; with the understanding that
the Board supports the Council's position as to what needs to be done for the
City; and that with the applicants' agreement to assist with road improvement
financing, this action is taken so as not to miss an opportunity for the City. Mr.
Gelbmann seconded the motion.
Chair Schaps amended the motion to include a condition about Coyote Drive as
outlined in the public hearing.
Mr. Johnson accepted the amendment.
The motion carried unanimously, 6 -0.
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Chair Schaps called a break at 8:16 p.m. and reconvened the meeting at 8:28
p.m.
B. 97 -2 Public Hearing - Century Farms Development - MUSA Amendment -
North Side of Lilac Street
Chair Schaps declared the public hearing open at 8:24 p.m.
Mr. Brixius stated that Mr. Gary Uhde has submitted a request to amend the
City's Comprehensive Plan to include the Behms Century Farms subdivision
within the MUSA. The request is for 48.4 net acres of land north of Lilac Street
between Sunset Road and Fourth Avenue. The area is zoned R -1. Preliminary
plat approval has been given for the first three phases of development which is
51 acres or 105 single family lots. In 1995, the Metropolitan Council approved a
MUSA land exchange resulting in the addition of 25 acres of MUSA of the
Behms project, and Phase 1 was developed. The balance of the Century Farms
land has not been included in MUSA. The application for MUSA expansion
would allow platting of the two other phases of development. When the MUSA
expansion request was made in 1995, the 99 gross acres were identified as a
growth area to be included in MUSA in the future. At the time of the Phase 1
MUSA expansion, the Metropolitan Council noted concern about traffic volumes
and the capacity of the intersection at I -35W and County Road 23. A traffic
study has determined that currently the northbound ramp heading into the City is
already operating at a deficient level of service. Any additional development
under current conditions would result in a level of service rating of F for the
functioning of that intersection, which is substandard.
Mr. Brixius stated that the City has not prepared an analysis or submitted an
improvement plan on the intersection to the Council. The City's transportation
engineer has identified the need for the ramps to be signalized at I -35W and
County Road 23. This is a need that will have to be addressed if the Town
Center area is going to continue to grow. Until the City Council has the
opportunity to make a determination on the expenditure, the development is
premature.
Mr. Johnson stated that the signals would have to be approved by Mn /DOT and
Anoka County. He asked if any problems are anticipated.
Mr. Ahrens stated that the ramps and bridge are under state jurisdiction, and
County Road 23 is under Anoka County jurisdiction. Installing the signals is a
matter of funding from the state and county, and this intersection would be a low
priority. The traffic volume of the intersection must meet warrants to warrant a
signal. It is the traffic engineer's opinion that it meets those warrants. A signal
justification report can be submitted, and then it becomes a funding issue.
Mr. Johnson stated that there is the potential for a string of traffic signals with the
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Mr. Wessel stated that the northbound ramp is of particular concern at this time.
Additional traffic signals are scheduled over the next five years.
Mr. Gary Uhde, Century Farms Developer, stated that this request for MUSA
expansion is a timing issue. The second addition needs to proceed. Five
builders made a commitment last August to preview at this location. There is a
market momentum that he does not want to lose. While he understands that the
final decision on MUSA expansion is made by the Metropolitan Council, he
needs the City to indicate approval to strengthen his request. He would not be
making this request except for the timing issue. If one month is lost, the entire
season could be lost. If the season is lost, those who have invested in showing
models will not have lots to build them.
Mr. Uhde stated that from the beginning he has understood that the traffic at the
intersection of the I -35W ramps and County Road 23 has been an issue. While
he understands that the City is in the process of a major Comprehensive Plan
review, waiting another 12 months will not work. He has tried to find a property
owner with MUSA land who would be willing to work out an exchange but has
been unsuccessful. His last option is to seek this MUSA amendment. Even so,
it will be 60 to 90 days before that approval. Another 30 days delay of approval
by the City will cost him the season because 70 percent of homes are sold from
January to the middle of May.
Chair Schaps noted that the Planning Board expressed concern about the
number of Tots that would be developed when the original project was started in
1994, when it was agreed to proceed in phases.
Mr. Johnson asked if Mr. Uhde is requesting approval for MUSA expansion for all
seven phases.
Mr. Uhde answered, yes, and noted that the Metropolitan Council may scale
back the request. However, he would prefer not to have to come back to the City
for approval with every phase because it slows the process. At this time phase 2
will be done over a construction year and a sales year. Typically it takes 18
months to complete a development, and planning must be done a year ahead.
Mr. Dunn asked if Mr. Uhde owns the property and the average home price in
the development.
Mr. Uhde stated that he owns all of the property. The projected price range for
the homes is $135,000 to $140,000. As development moves to the west, the
values of the homes will increase because the lots are larger and wooded. It will
cost more to develop them, and he estimated the price range to increase up to
the $160,000 range.
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Mr. Uhde introduced Mr. Peter Coyle from the law firm of Larkin, Hoffman, Daly
and Lindgren, who has agreed to work with him and the Metropolitan Council for
the MUSA expansion.
Mr. Coyle stated that the developer understands that the traffic issue is the
challenge and is prepared to help with the solution. The Metropolitan Council
has indicated that they are amenable to a Comprehensive Plan amendment for
this project because they do not anticipate that it will generate a significant
increase of traffic relative to the problem that already exists. In order for Behms
and the Town Center to further develop, a traffic signal must be installed. The
application for a MUSA amendment must come from the City. The developer is
prepared to offer prefunding for the signalization of the northbound ramp, which
amounts to approximately $125,000. In return, Mr. Uhde is requesting that staff
work out a method for him to recapture a portion of the prefunding. He is
prepared to take this risk because of the timing issues identified, subject to a
good faith effort on the part of the City to establish a mechanism by which he can
recapture this funding through future development.
Chair Schaps asked if the developer is comfortable that a signal for the
northbound ramp is all that is needed for Metropolitan Council approval of the
MUSA expansion.
Mr. Coyle stated that the Metropolitan Council wants to see the City address this
problem. This MUSA expansion will extend utilities into an area that will be
beneficial both to Behms and to the City.
Mr. Dunn asked if the developer expects to pay a proportional share of the traffic
signal and not expect to recapture the entire cost.
Mr. Coyle stated that the generation of traffic trips can be calculated for each
project to contribute a percentage of the cost.
Mr. Dunn asked if this would benefit the City's effort to develop Town Center.
Mr. Wessel answered, yes.
Mr. Brixius added that the Comprehensive Plan Task Force recently reviewed
the Land Use Plan and issues regarding a town /village development. Even
without the development of Behms, the transportation plan requires signalization
at that interchange for the Town Center development.
Mr. Herr asked if a frontage road will be incorporated for future development of
the Town Center.
Mr. Ahrens stated that he would see the signal installation as a temporary
measure until there is a major improvement with the bridge replaced and a
permanent installation. The proposed improvement would raise the intersection
level of service operation to a rank of B, which is a safe level of operation.
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Mr. Brixius stated that staff's original recommendation was to suggest tabling
action in anticipation that within a month the City would be able to determine
whether or not the signal improvement would be undertaken. However, staff has
no objections to Mr. Uhde's offer to prefund the signal knowing that the City does
not know where the funding will come from. The urgency presented by Mr. Uhde
may be an opportunity from which the City would like to take advantage.
Mr. Johnson noted that the signal is in a tax increment financing (TIF) district.
He asked if staff envisions TIF funding to be used for improvements like this one.
Mr. Wessel stated that not all of the intersections are in a TIF district. TIF is
primarily used for areas zoned light industry. The City has to be careful how TIF
funding is used, and it is not a source of funding for this type of project. He
stated that the master plan for the village development was approved two weeks
ago, and review of the first project in the village is expected within the next two
months. This signal is an improvement that the City must address for the village
development to go forward. He believes Mr. Uhde's offer is a good way to
initiate a resolution for Behms and for the village project.
Chair Schaps asked if the City Council is aware of Mr. Uhde's offer.
Mr. Wessel stated that discussion of it only took place that afternoon. The
Planning Board's recommendation is needed for the Council to make its own
assessment.
Mr. Johnson stated that there are no written recommendations to approve this
offer. He would feel more comfortable with a written proposal.
Chair Schaps stated that it appears somewhat risky to the City in the way it has
been outlined.
Mr. Wessel responded that Mr. Uhde has made an interesting offer to which he
responds positively. The key question is engineering and the traffic issue.
Mr. Ahrens stated that many of the engineering and traffic issues are addressed
with the growth on Lake Drive and plans for the village development. He agreed
that this is a good opportunity to capture funds that the City would not otherwise
receive. With the signal, the intersection will be improved to a level B service
operation. Without it, the level of service is F, which is a failed system.
Mr. Johnson asked when the signal would be installed. Mr. Ahrens stated that if
the Council approves, a justification report will be submitted to the state and
county for installation this year.
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to close the public hearing at 9:02 p.m. and was
supported by Herr. Motion carried unanimously, 6 -0.
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Mr. Brixius stated that if the Planning Board decides to approve this action, he
would recommend adding two conditions: 1) that the financing of the traffic
signal at the northbound ramp of I -35W and County Road 23 will be pursued, as
outlined by Mr. Peter Coyle and reflected in the minutes; 2) that the four lots on
Lilac Street and Laurie Avenue be included in the MUSA extension, so that if
septic systems fail those properties can be connected to City utilities.
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to approve the request to amend the City's
Comprehensive Plan to include Behms Century Farms subdivision within the
Metropolitan Urban Service Area (MUSA) which include 99.9 gross acres located
north of Lilac Street between Sunset Road and Fourth Avenue, and including the
four lots on Lilac Street and Laurie Avenue as approved by the Board at the
January meeting; with a financing plan for the traffic signal at the northbound
ramp of I -35W and County Road 23, as outlined by Mr. Peter Coyle at this
meeting. The motion was seconded by Mr. Herr. Motion carried unanimously, 6-
0.
C. Shoreland Management Ordinance, Public Hearing
Chair Schaps declared the public hearing open at 9:04 p.m.
Mr. Brixius stated that the Shoreland Ordinance has a 50 percent open space
requirement and a 35 percent impervious surface requirement, which appears to
have been included in error. The impervious surface provision appears to be
based on the State Model Ordinance but has been modified by the City for
residential and commercial development. The DNR has indicated no objection
to removing the 35 percent impervious surface provision as long as the
mandatory 50 percent open space provision is retained. Development plans are
reviewed by the Rice Creek Watershed to maintain the highest level of water
quality and land use.
Mr. Dunn stated that the initial intent was to allow only a certain percentage of
impervious surface.
Mr. Brixius stated that the amendment would allow more flexibility and still
maintain the mandatory 50 percent of open space. The reference to 35 percent
impervious surface is confusing and conflicting and was a mistake that was not
caught in the final review of the ordinance.
Mr. Ahrens noted that performance standards on ponding under Best
Management Practices cover practices for handling surface water runoff. The
plan must conform to Rice Creek Watershed District and Vadnais Lake
Management Organization. Both have similar performance standards that must
be followed for detention ponds as part of development review to keep runoff
rates to pre- existing development conditions.
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Mr. J.P. Houchins, 7284 Stagecoach Trail, stated that this amendment will
increase impervious surface in PDO development from 35 percent to 50 percent.
He is vigorously opposed to the amendment and urged the Board to protect the
City's natural resources. The amendment has been presented as a mistake, but
he does not believe that to be the case. He distributed copies of a transcript of
the public hearing that was held when the ordinance was passed. It was
reviewed in January 1995, and a number of questions were raised. The public
hearing was continued for two months. In those two months Mr. Brixius had the
opportunity to clarify a number of issues and contact the DNR.
Mr. Houchins noted that the transcript clearly indicates the intention
to allow 35 percent of impervious surface and require 50 percent
open space.
Mr. Houchins stated that he does not know the reason for this ordinance change,
but does not believe it is in the best interests of the City. Both the Metropolitan
Council and Watershed District take samples of water quality every summer.
Water in Marshan Lake is ranked F; Peltier Lake ranks D; Baldwin Lake is F, etc.
The only way to improve water quality is to be vigilant.
Chair Schaps asked how water quality is defined and how a ranking of F
compares with other lakes in the metro area.
Mr. Houchins responded that a ranking of F is the dirtiest 10 percent of tested
water. The ranking is based on phosphorous and chlorophyll content and
transparency. Water is flowing from remote locations, and he urged the Board to
not weaken the standards of the Shoreland ordinance that would increase the
pollution of lakes. Holding ponds are a good measure of prevention and remove
50 percent of the pollution before the water flows into the lakes.
Mr. Houchins stated that if 50 percent impervious surface is allowed, the vast
majority of that open space is concentrated at the shoreline because of the
setback requirements.
Mr. Johnson asked what the practical implication would be to Marshan Shores
development if the ordinance were changed.
Mr. Houchins stated that with the maximum limit of 35 percent impervious
surface, there would have to be more green space between buildings.
Mr. Brixius stated that with the last approval with maximum density for Marshan
Shores Townhomes, impervious surface was at 35 percent and open space at
50 percent including what is planned for commercial. This is the specific
application that raised the confusion regarding shoreland regulations. When the
development was originally presented, the City did not have shoreland
regulations, and the developer was pushing the issue under the old regulations.
He noted that there are 200 -foot setbacks from the lake before the first
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townhome. He further stated that George Watch Lake does not have any
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Mr. Houchins stated that the ordinance should not be written for one site. It is
important to keep the standards in place. If the 35 percent stipulation is
dropped, the interpretation will be to allow 50 percent of impervious surface.
Chair Schaps asked the origin of this request. Mr. Brixius stated that there is
confusion in addressing issues with the Marshan Shores application.
Chair Schaps asked how many units are approved for Marshan Shores. Mr.
Brixius answered, 130 units. No further application for development has been
received, and the corner the developer would like to develop as commercial is
not zoned commercial.
Mr. Dunn stated that he is inclined to support Mr. Houchins and agrees that the
City should not create regulations on the basis of one area. The regulations
should be applicable citywide. There is enough doubt that the matter should be
tabled and left to a work session. It is important to strive to improve the water
quality of the City, and this could potentially be a door that should not be opened
without more data.
Mr. Herr asked if the most recent plan approved was on the basis of 35 percent
impervious surface. Mr. Brixius responded that the entire land holdings of Mr.
Hokanson are under one contiguous parcel which complies with the letter of the
law as it is now written.
Mr. Herr stated that his recollection of the discussion in 1995 is that the City
intended a maximum of 35 percent impervious surface.
Mr. Houchins stated that he calculated Marshan Townhomes at 45 percent
impervious surface, not 35 percent of the total land holdings. The initial parcel
and amount of available area on the site after taking out park land and roads
leaves 18.2 acres. Additional land of 1.6 acres was added that was called a
commercial site.
Mr. Brixius explained that Mr. Hokanson had more units than were allowed and a
4 -unit townhouse was eliminated. The balance of the commercial site had to be
included with the remaining residential development.
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to close the public hearing at 9:35 p.m. and was
supported by Dahl.
Mr. Dunn made a MOTION to return this matter to staff for further consideration.
Mr. Brixius stated that if the Board is seeking additional data and more
information, a report can be prepared. If the Board would like to retain the 35
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percent stipulation of impervious surface and not change the regulations,
approval can be denied.
Mr. Dunn withdrew his motion.
Mr. Dunn made a MOTION to deny approval of the Shoreland ordinance
amendment and was supported by Herr. Motion carried unanimously, 6 -0.
D. Sign Ordinance Amendment - Continuation of Public Hearing
Chair Schaps opened the continued public hearing regarding the sign ordinance
amendment at 9:37 p.m.
Mr. Gelbmann stated that he has several questions regarding the proposed
language in the amendment.
Mr. Gelbmann made a MOTION to further table this matter and was supported
by Dunn.
Mr. Dunn stated that he has questions about the regulation of traffic signs,
daycare signs, garage sale signs and "House for Sale" signs which he will further
discuss with staff.
illThe motion carried unanimously, 6 -0.
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VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mr. Wessel noted receipt of a letter regarding architectural guidelines for the
master plan effort for the Town Center. Ultimately architectural design issues will
end up with the Planning & Zoning Board. He suggested a March meeting to
present a preview of what is being drafted by the committee.
Chair Schaps noted a public forum meeting March 13, for residents to respond to
the task force presentation of the village plan in Districts 1 and 2.
Mr. Johnson asked if the name has been officially adopted. Mr. Wessel
explained that the quadrant has been referred to as Town Center in the past.
The use of the name village is informal to designate that particular quadrant.
Mr. Johnson requested that Lino Lakes be incorporated into the name, so that
the development is identified with the City.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Johnson made a MOTION to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 p.m. and was
supported by Ms. Dahl. The motion passed unanimously, 6 -0.