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PLANNING & ZONING BOARD
MARCH 13, 1996
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES
DATE ! : March 13, 1996
TIME STARTED : 6 :32 p.m.
TIME ENDED : 10:37 p. m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Gelbmann, Herr, Johnson, Mesich, Robinson
MEMBERS ABSENT : Schaps, Schones
ALSO PRESENT Planning Coordinator Wyland, Planning
Consultant Kirmis, Economic Development Director Wessel,
City Engineer Ahrens.
1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL:
11. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Guy Herr made a MOTION to approve the minutes
of the February 14, 1996 meeting as submitted and was supported by Rick
Gelbmann. Motion carried 4 -0 -1. (Al Robinson abstained as he was not
present at the February 14, 1996 meeting).
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Acting Chair Johnson noted for the audience that
Item VD., Public Hearing was removed from the agenda per request of the
applicant. He then suggested changing the order of the agenda action items
to B., C., A. and E.
IV. OPEN MIKE: Acting Chair Johnson declared the Open Mike portion of the
meeting open at 6:36 p.m.
Hearing no public comments at this time, Al Robinson made a MOTION
to close the Open Mike portion of the meeting at 6:37 p.m. and was
supported by Thomas Mesich. All voted aye. Motion carried.
V. ACTION ITEMS:
B. Site Plan Review, Metropolitan Council Environmental Services, Ware
Road
Planning Coordinator Wyland briefly reviewed the staff report regarding
the request to construct a building resembling a single family home on
Outlots A and B of the Pine Ridge 3rd Addition that will house a MCES
Sanitary Sewer Lift Station.
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Ms. Wyland recommended approval of the site plan review subject to the
following conditions:
1 . Proper building permits be obtained prior to construction.
2. The landscaping plan shall be reviewed and approved by the City
Forester. Outlot A and B shall be maintained as a single family
residence at all times with a well trimmed and maintained yard
area.
3. Site drainage plans shall be reviewed and approved by the City
Engineer.
4. Trash generated from the site shall be stored in an enclosed
container located in the garage area of the structure.
5. Noise levels generated from the use of the building shall be within
required MPCA Standards for a residential area.
Mr. Robinson asked if this would be located adjacent to the ponding area
and noted his concern with erosion control.
Ms. Wyland stated there are ponding areas behind the proposal to the
north and south. She noted the lots are quite large.
Acting Chair Johnson noted the plan included silver maple trees on the
northeast end of the property. He stated he felt there should be more
of a buffer on that edge of the property.
Planning Coordinator Wyland stated the forester had not yet approved
the landscape plan.
Mr. Herr noted there was a stipulation for the noise level generated. He
asked if there was equipment in the building which would generate a
significant amount of noise.
Mr. Bill Johnson from MCES stated the building houses a standby
generator which will run the pumps in case of electrical failure. This
generator will be quite noisy when it runs. He noted maintenance crews
come by weekly and make sure the generator is operational. He stated
he could not speculate the decibel level on the outside of the building.
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He noted the building will be cavity wall construction and face brick
which will be sound deadening. The exhaust louver for the generator
faces to the north and there are no homes close in that direction.
Mr. Herr asked if the City had any restrictions in place for maximum
decibel levels.
Ms. Wyland stated the City uses the MPCA standards which go into
great detail regarding decibels. She stated the MCES is required to
obtain a permit from the MPCA.
Mr. Johnson from MCES stated this lift station will replace the lift station
currently located northeast of Laurene Avenue. That generator has been
in place for twenty years and is mounted on a trailer. That station will
be conveyed to the City and the portable generator will be removed on
completion of the proposed lift station.
Mr. Gelbmann asked if the older lift station will remain in operation.
City Engineer Ahrens stated it would remain in operation.
Mr. Mesich asked if the tanks housed in the building contained
hazardous chemicals.
Mr. Johnson stated the tank in the building injected chemicals to protect
against erosion and provide odor control. Some possible chemicals
included ferrous chloride and dioxin. He did not know if the chemicals
were hazardous but he knew they were not flammable. He noted there
will be a diesel fuel storage tank in the building which is flammable.
Mr. Mesich asked if the building would be sprinklered.
Mr. Johnson stated his initial interpretation was that it would not be
necessary.
Ms. Wyland noted the Building Inspector has not yet performed the
inspection for issuance of the building permit. If it is found that the
State Building code requires sprinklers, the City will require it.
Mr. Gelbmann asked how frequently the chemicals in the tank are
replenished.
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Mr. Johnson stated he thought the tanks only required filling once per
month. He stated an option being considered was to eliminate the
chemicals and add them later if odor complaints were received from
residents or if corrosion was noticed.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to approve the site plan review for the
Metropolitan Council Environmental Services, 6290 Ware Road subject
to the 5 stated conditions and was supported by Guy Herr. All voted in
favor. Motion carried.
C. Site Plan Review / Minor Subdivision Progressive Engineering, 450
Apollo Drive
Economic Development Director Brian Wessel explained this was the first
of five projects which would be discussed at the next three meetings.
He briefly outlined Progressive Engineering's background. He
recommended approval of the proposed site plan and minor subdivision.
Planning Coordinator Wyland briefly reviewed the staff report regarding
a request to construct a 16,000 square foot office /manufacturing facility
in the Apollo Business Park on a parcel of property approximately 2.5
acres in size.
Ms. Wyland recommended approval of the Site Plan Review and Minor
Subdivision with the following conditions:
1. Proper building permits be obtained prior to any construction.
2. The applicant shall sign a development agreement and post
financial guarantees as specified by the City prior to issuance of
the building permit. The development agreement shall include
provisions for a shared driveway.
3. The City Engineer shall review and approve the grading, utility and
drainage plans.
4. Proper sign permits shall be obtained prior to installation of any
signage.
5. The City Forester shall review and approve the landscape plan.
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6. Roof top heating and ventilating units shall be screened and /or
blended with the design coloring of the building.
7. The parking area shall be constructed according to City Standards
including concrete curb, gutter, bituminous paving and
handicapped spaces as required by the ADA Rules and
Regulations.
Mr. Robinson asked if the project was being funded by TIF assistance.
Mr. Wessel stated all light industrial in the Apollo District was provided
TIF assistance. The provided amount was to cover land and
assessments at 10,000 square feet /per acre. The building proposed is
approximately 16,000 square feet which would result in approximately
1.7 acres of incremental assistance. They would finance the remaining
.6 acres themselves. The proposed expansion purchase would not
include TIF assistance. Mr. Wessel explained this was a new TIF district
in 1995.
Mr. Mesich asked if hazardous chemicals were used in the manufacturing
process.
Harry Chappell, owner of Progressive Engineering, stated the company
uses a small amount of chemicals. The cutting oil used in the machining
process is bio- degradable and the machine lubricant is an oil -based
substance which is recycled.
Mr. Mesich asked how the bio- degradable substance is disposed of.
Mr. Chappell explained they use an evaporator to reduce the waste . He
stated they have had the equipment for a couple of years and still have
not filled one barrel.
Acting Chair Johnson stated he liked the design and was glad to see the
diversity in the industrial buildings.
Mr. Chappell explained the exterior of the building would be an aggregate
brown color with off -set treatments. The front entrance will be
constructed of glass and colored metal to match the trim on the
windows and doors.
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Mr. Robinson asked if there would be a sign located on the back side of
the building facing Highway 35W.
Mr. Chappell stated the building in Blaine had a sign which was one foot
high with the name of the company. He felt it may be appropriate to
place this same type of sign on the back side of the building.
Mr. Herr stated he felt a lighting plan should be required and included as
a condition.
Guy Herr made a MOTION to approve the site plan review for
Progressive Engineering, 450 Apollo Drive with the 7 stated conditions
and an additional condition 8; A lighting plan shall be provided to be
approved by staff, and was supported by Al Robinson. All voted in
favor. Motion carried.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to approve the minor subdivision for
Progressive Engineering, 450 Apollo Drive and was supported by Thomas
Mesich. All voted in favor. Motion carried.
C. CONTINUATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING - 96 -1, Rezoning,Minor
Subdivision, Site Plan Review, Centennial School District, Elm Street
City Engineer Ahrens explained the Planning and Zoning Board had
continued this item at the previous meeting and directed the Engineering
Consultant, City staff and School District to meet with the residents and
present the options available for this project. This joint meeting was
held on February 22, 1996 and approximately 75 residents were in
attendance. On March 4, 1996, an open house meeting was held and
31 comment cards were received from residents in attendance.
Mr. Ahrens reported the School District was requesting action on the site
plan this evening as the site plan will not change depending on which
road plan is approved.
Acting Chair Johnson opened the public hearing 7:14 p.m.
Planning Consultant Kirmis briefly reviewed the staff report regarding
concerns which were addressed at the February 14, 1996 Planning and
Zoning Board meeting.
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Mr. Kirmis recommended approval of the Rezoning from Light Industrial,
LI and Single Family Residential, R1 to PSP, Public Semi - Public subject
to the following conditions:
A. Amend Land Use Plan to reflect the proposed use.
B. Subject to Final Plat Approval
Mr. Kirmis recommended approval of the Subdivision creating two
parcels, one parcel for the school site and one parcel for the light
industrial site with the condition that a preliminary and final plat be
submitted to the City Council for approval which includes all the
necessary drainage and utility easements as recommended by the City
Engineer.
Mr. Kirmis briefly reviewed the issues and discussions involved with the
site plan review.
Mr. Kirmis recommended Site Plan approval subject to the following
conditions:
1. On site traffic control signage must identify entry, exits, one -
ways, no parking along fire hydrants, etc.
2. The site plan dated 3/7/96 be made part of the permit approval.
3. Signs for the proposed site are in compliance with the Sign
Ordinance.
4. The tree preservation plan and landscape /fencing plan dated
3/7/96 be made a part of this permit and reviewed and approved
by the City Forester.
5. Grading, drainage and utility plans shall be submitted to the City
Engineer for his review and approval.
6. A comprehensive lighting plan shall be reviewed and approved by
the City Engineer - there shall be no lighting, except the hockey
rink, of any athletic fields.
7. Proper building permits be obtained prior to construction.
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8. The City Council adopt a roadway alignment to serve the middle
school facility which would not alter the submitted site plan.
9. The City finds no adverse environmental impact and there is no
need for an EIS as related to the EAW.
Mr. Kirmis recommended approval of a conditional use permit to allow
construction of a middle school in a PSP Zoning District and subject to
all conditions of the site plan review.
Acting Chair Johnson noted the road alignment is the decision of the
City Council not the Planning and Zoning Board.
David Mitchell, OSM Engineering presented four alternatives for the road
alignment, two of which he found acceptable from an engineering
standpoint. He stated he felt from the public safety standpoint it was
imperative that a signal light be installed on Lake Drive.
Mr. Mitchell explained Option A would provide realignment of Elm Street
to the north along the east side of the school site back to Highway 49.
This would eliminate Elm Street as it exists between 4th Avenue and
Highway 49. This option would guarantee installation of a stop light.
Mr. Mitchell explained Option B is similar to Option A except that it
would provide a one -way portion of Elm Street between 4th Avenue and
Lake Drive. This would provide access for individual property owners
who wished to access Highway 49 from the area south of Elm Street.
This option would also warrant a stop light.
Mr. Mitchell explained Option C is similar except it will maintain Elm
Street as it exists and provide access from Elm Street to 4th Avenue to
the north. There would be no access to Highway 49 coming south out
of the school site. All eastbound traffic on Elm Street will access the
school site on 4th Avenue.
Mr. Mitchell explained Option D provides total separation of traffic. It
leaves Elm Street as it is and provides no connection to the school site
from Elm Street. A cul -de -sac would be installed to terminate 4th
Avenue at the southern most access to the school site.
Mr. Mitchell noted Options C and D would not warrant a stop light.
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Troy Weigold, Cinnamon Teal Court, distributed a graph illustrating data
he and other neighbors had collected from a survey of residents in the
Wenzel Farm area. Almost all of the residents preferred option D. Mr.
Weigold felt OSM Engineering had failed to work with the residents in
reducing the number of design options and coming to an agreement on
the design. Mr. Weigold noted OSM had presented an option 5 or C1.
Some of the residents were in favor of this option. He stated he felt
OSM is not addressing the citizens concerns but only the concerns of the
Superintendent. He stated OSM has not presented data of the impact
of any of the designs on the intersection of 2nd Avenue and Elm Street.
He expressed his concern with the trees on site. He questioned if the
trees removed could be sold for firewood to help fund the road project.
He felt there was not enough specific information being provided to
make an informed decision.
Kim Sullivan, 7132 Whippoorwill Lane, stated she agreed with much of
what Mr. Weigold had expressed. She felt an easier solution would have
been obtained if the City would have discussed this project with the
citizens in the earlier planning stages. She stated she believed Option
C1 had been developed with the input of the citizens. 100% of the
citizens are not in favor of option C1 but it will produce the minimal
impact to the most people. She stated the citizens are not fighting
placement of a signal Tight on Highway 49. Citizens are concerned with
the safety issue. She was concerned that a pedestrian survey had not
been completed. She felt this was necessary and believed the City
would have full resident support. She advocated a flashing yellow light
at the intersection of Elm Street and Highway 49 to mark the crosswalk.
She stated the citizens did not want a lot of traffic on EIm Street and
EIm Street was not in condition to support a lot of additional traffic. She
asked that a condition be included for no parking on EIm Street. Ms.
Sullivan stated she was concerned with the balance of residential,
commercial and industrial properties in the overall development plan of
the area. She asked that the Tree Preservation Plan be reviewed
carefully before approval. She was concerned that a buffer be provided
between the school and the citizens. She noted the Minnesota
Department of Education Facilities had submitted their Planning Design
Guidelines of a comparison for the proposed athletic fields. She
suggested this be taken into consideration but the City look at the site
individually and make the best decision based on what would fit in this
space and design.
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Steve Wurscher, 7132 Gray Heron Drive, stated he had been asked to
represent the citizens at the joint meeting. He felt the proposed plan
was making a road more dangerous to rationalize a stop Tight. He did
not believe MnDOT would feel this was a good idea. The residents do
not want Elm Street closed. He asked that the Planning and Zoning
Board consider the neighbors as well as the School District. He noted
the property owners in the area were concerned with the decrease in
property values.
Angela Weigold, Cinnamon Teal Court, stated she felt if there was
enough money available to turn Elm Street into a four lane road, there
should be enough money available to create a cul -de -sac and not
intermingle the school, residential and Tight industrial traffic.
Dave Radik, 7184 Cinnamon Teal Court, stated last night he saw the
new plan which created a "freeway" on Elm Street. He expressed
concern for the children in the area. He felt the cul -de -sac was the best
option and would keep the citizens in the area happy.
Angela Weigold noted OSM has indicated there will be difficulties with
stacking of the buses and cars. She suggested the designers be more
creative and find a way to design the site so the neighborhood would not
have to have the impact of the increased traffic. She felt it was not fair
to force Cinnamon Teal Court and Gray Heron Drive to withstand the full
impact of the increased traffic.
Daryl Mullens, 7199 Cinnamon Teal Court, stated he had been one of
the persons out obtaining the survey information. He stated the
residents he had talked to were concerned about the extra cost incurred
with the cul -de -sac option but were also concerned with the traffic flow.
He felt the City and School District needed to work together to
determine the best possible solution.
Donald Dunn, 6885 Black Duck Drive, stated he did not understand the
purpose of creating a right- turn -only onto Elm Street. He felt it would
not be long before traffic would be using 2nd Avenue as a cut - through.
He asked if the impact to 2nd Avenue had been considered. He stated
he was non - impacted because he did not live in the neighborhood but
was impacted as a citizen of Lino Lakes who would like to see things
done right. He encouraged the Planning and Zoning Board to send a
strong message to the City Council.
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Hearing no further comments, Al Robinson made a MOTION to Close the
Public Hearing at 8:06 p.m. and was supported by Thomas Mesich. All
voted in favor. Motion carried.
Mr. Mesich noted EIm Street was currently substandard and stated his
disappointment that none of the plans included upgrading of that street.
He suggested traffic be brought into the school site from Elm Street, the
cul -de -sac installed, and the business park install it's own road if
necessary. A signal Tight could then be installed on Elm Street.
Mr. Ahrens explained a pedestrian study is planned to assist the school
staff and police staff to determine a plan to meet the pedestrian traffic
in the area. This pedestrian study will not be performed until a specific
roadway plan for the area is determined. He noted there is intent to ask
the City Council to consider EIm Street as a state roadway. At that
time, it would be possible to consider reconstruction of the road with
State Aid. Mr. Ahrens noted Elm Street is narrow and a trail is proposed
for the south side of Elm Street. He stated the City Council would be
asked to install regulatory signing assuming the roadway approved is
inadequate for parking.
Mr. Mitchell stated he was confident the pedestrian issue would be
addressed. He noted the signal Tight is a major issue in this proposal.
EIm Street currently carries 1000 trips per day. It is estimated the
school will generate 1500 to 2000 trips per day. Options A and B will
triple the amount of traffic on Elm Street. Option C decreases the
amount of traffic and Option D eliminates the traffic on Elm Street. He
noted the proposal is making a more dangerous intersection to provide
for a safer intersection with installation of a signal light. OSM feels this
is a better option than having two mediocre intersections. Option C
does not allow for a signal light and Option C1 which will leave Elm
Street open does not provide for a signal light. He noted if southbound
traffic on 4th Avenue is forced to go to Elm Street and wanted to access
Highway 49, their best opportunity would be to use 2nd Avenue. This
would impact 2nd Avenue. He noted, however, all options would impact
2nd Avenue.
Mr. Mitchell noted the option presented by Mr. Mesich had been
considered but was not feasible as it would not provide ample storage
for the signal. He stated from a professional standpoint, he could not
support either Option C or D.
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Police Chief, Pecchia, stated the Police Department had requested a
pedestrian survey be performed. He noted it would be easy for middle
school age children to ride their bikes to the school and there is concern
of how they would cross Lake Drive. He stated the pedestrian survey
was not an issue which should be addressed by the Police Department
or the School District as they did not have the necessary expertise.
Acting Chair Johnson asked if the Police Department would be able to
monitor the intersection during crossing times if it was not possible to
have a signal light installed.
The Police Chief noted there currently is not the staff available to do so.
The School District would have to hire someone to perform the
monitoring.
Mr. Wessel noted the industrial park and school site were two separate
issues. There was no relationship between the two sites.
Mr. Mesich asked if the school site could be shifted over on the property
to allow stacking for busses and other traffic on EIm Street.
Mr. Mitchell stated this would be a much more palliative situation. He
explained the difficulty with this option was a row of houses and also it
would only provide for one access to the school. He noted the original
site plan did provide access to EIm Street for the sole purpose of parent
drop off or pick up of the children. He indicated residents were against
that proposal.
Mr. Robinson asked if Mr Rehbein was a party to the funding of the road
being built to Lake Drive and if so, which option he preferred.
Mr. Ahrens noted Mr. Rehbein was a party in the funding. He stated at
the last meeting held in January of 1996, all parties involved had agreed
to Option B which included realignment of EIm Street.
Mr. Wurscher stated he felt if there was an option to negotiate with Mr.
Rehbien for more support it should be explored.
Mr. Weigold stated it was obvious to him, after hearing the conversation,
that there were still too many questions involved to make a decision.
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Mr. Mesich stated his biggest fear was the intersection at Elm Street and
Highway 49. He questioned who regulated installation of crosswalks.
Mr. Ahrens stated any activity on a State right -of -way required State
approval. He noted installation of crosswalks had to be approved by
MnDOT.
Mr. Mitchell explained crosswalks required the same warrants be met as
signal lights.
Acting Chair Johnson noted the actions before the Board tonight
included rezoning, minor sub - divisions, site plan review and conditional
use permit.
Guy Herr made a MOTION to approve the Rezoning from Light Industrial,
LI and Single Family Residential, R -1 to PSP, Public Semi - Public for
Centennial School District, Elm Street, subject to conditions A and B
stated by staff and was supported by Al Robinson. All voted in favor.
Motion carried.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to approve the Subdivision creating two
parcels, one parcel for the school site and one parcel for the light
industrial site for Centennial School District, Elm Street, with the
conditions stated by staff and was supported by Rick Gelbmann. All
voted in favor. Motion carried.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to approve the Site Plan for Centennial
School District, Elm Street, with the nine conditions stated by staff and
was supported by Rick Gelbmann.
Mr. Mesich stated he felt in order to approve a site plan for a school, the
site plan needed to fit the school and amenities into the area and should
also address the study of safety. He stated he did not believe the
pedestrian safety issue was being addressed at all in this plan. He
suggested if the site was not able to be made safe, then possibly this
was not the correct site for a school. He noted the townhouses that
were being built and suggested there would be many more children in
the area. He noted the City park and asked how children would cross to
access the park.
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Acting Chair Johnson acknowledged these concerns but noted these
were not issues for the Planning and Zoning Board to address. He stated
they could be referred to when the Board members stated their
preference of road plan.
Mr. Herr stated he would like to be ensured a pedestrian study would be
conducted and a correct decision be made based on results of that
study.
Acting Chair Johnson suggested that could be included as a condition of
approval.
Mr. Herr suggested amending the MOTION to include condition 10; That
a pedestrian study be conducted and propose the necessary safety
measures to solve the pedestrian traffic.
Mr. Robinson amended his motion and Mr. Gelbmann concurred.
Voting on the motion: 4 -1 (Mr. Mesich voted naye). Motion carried.
Mr. Herr made a MOTION to approve the Conditional Use Permit to allow
construction of a middle school in a PSP Zoning District for Centennial
School District, Elm Street, subject to all conditions of the site plan
review. Voting on the motion: 4 -1 (Mr. Mesich voted naye). The
motion carried.
Mr. Robinson stated he preferred roadway Options D and C1. He stated
he was concerned with closing Elm Street. He stated he could not
imagine the State not installing a signal light in an area with this
magnitude of traffic. He asked if the City could install a signal light on
their own.
Mr. Mitchell stated the City would not be allowed to install a stop light
without State approval. Traffic from the school alone would not warrant
placement of a stoplight.
Mr. Robinson suggested a stop sign instead.
Mr. Mitchell stated there were similar warrants required for installation
of a stop sign. It was not likely that the State would install a stop sign
on this type of roadway. Mr. Mitchell expressed his concern with the
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legalities of either Option C or D and suggested this be discussed with
the City Attorney.
Mr. Gelbmann stated he preferred Option C. He stated he understood
the concerns of the neighborhood and the desire to keep the traffic off
Elm Street. He felt it was in the City's best interest to justify a signal
light at tfzte -ir rs rr'f 11 fie expressed concern that the students
rn would-not use the light at 4t -.• • -ma, way.
Mr. Herr stated he preferred Option C -1 because of the added potential
of pedestrian traffic.
Mr. Mesich stated he preferred Option C -1 due to the combination of
trips per day and pedestrians.
Acting Chair Johnson stated he would prefer either Option B or C -1. He
emphasized the concern for pedestrians crossing at Elm Street and felt
this needed to be addressed.
Mr. Herr noted the concerns of the Church had not been addressed
tonight. He stated the Church had been present at the last meeting and
had expressed concern about the closing of Elm Street.
Angela Weigold stated she felt Option C -1 was not appropriate as it still
called for the stoplight to be placed at 4th Avenue and Highway 49 and
Elm Street to be widened.
Paul Snyder, Project Architect, stated he wished Superintendent
McClellan was present at this meeting tonight. The School District is
struggling to make the site and the whole area safe. The 1880 students
are their responsibility and Mr. McClellan feels strongly that a Tight
should be installed to make the site safe for students and residents. Mr.
Snyder noted it is his responsibility to make sure the building and whole
project are under budget. He asked the Planning and Zoning Board to
make their recommendations by considering total build -out. All parts of
the project may not be completed at once, it may have to be done in
phases.
Randy Schumacher, City Administrator, noted the pedestrian study had
not yet been completed due to the engineer's recommendation to wait
until the road design had been determined. The City and School District
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have agreed to perform the pedestrian survey. He noted a previous
instance on Birch Street where the City and School District worked
together to fund an underpass for pedestrians. He noted the Police
Department is only being asked for input as a department.
Acting Chair Johnson called a brief recess at 9:07 p.m.
Acting Chair Johnson reconvened the meeting at 9:16 p.m.
E. PUBLIC HEARING - Animal Ordinance
Planning Coordinator Wyland reviewed the changes to the Animal
Ordinance. She noted a letter which was received from Sharon J. Lane,
a member of the committee who worked on the ordinance, who was
unable to attend this evening. Ms. Lane expressed her approval of the
ordinance but asked that a collar not be required for animals which are
strictly confined to the indoors. Ms. Wyland recommended Planning and
Zoning Board approval of the ordinance as submitted and that it be
forwarded to the City Council for adoption.
Acting Chair Johnson opened the Public Hearing at 9:22 p.m.
Steve Andre, 495 Ash Street, stated he had been present at every
meeting regarding the ordinance. He explained the ordinance had
originally become a concern for a majority of the citizens when their
quality of life and value of their homes was affected by a kennel being
placed 50 feet from their home. He expressed concerns that the
proposed ordinance did not state a maximum allowable number of dogs
in a private kennel and allowed a kennel to be placed on 1 acre rather
than the previously required 5 acres. He felt the proposed ordinance
was too permissive and did not protect the rights of the adjacent
property owners. He noted the ordinance did not include violation
guidelines for revocation of a kennel permit. He recommended the
ordinance not be approved as it was not in the best interest of the
majority of the community and the detrimental impact to the quality of
life in Lino Lakes it would produce.
Donald Dunn, 6585 Black Duck Drive, stated he had also attended the
meetings and had no grudge against dogs. His concern was with the
owners of the animals and the abuse of the privilege of licenses. He
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objected to animals running loose in the City and depositing feces in
other property owners yards. He felt the ordinance needed to be more
clearly defined and more restrictive to protect the rights of people who
do not have dogs. He stated there had not been a consensus reached
at the last two meetings regarding this ordinance. He stated the ease
with which a private kennel could go from 2 to 5 to 10 dogs bothered
him. He felt the minimum amount of land required for a private dog
kennel in residential areas should be maintained at 5 acres. He
expressed concern that the maximum number of dogs allowed in a
private kennel should be clearly stated in the ordinance. He felt the limit
of one litter in a 12 month period per kennel license would allow too
many litters.
Mr. Gelbmann explained this restricted the owner to "one" litter per
kennel license, not per dog.
Mr. Robinson explained the input from neighbors was always considered
at the public hearing when issuing a kennel license and is included in the
conditions of issuance of the permit. If the conditions are not adhered
to, the permit will be revoked.
Mr. Dunn stated he was concerned that if the requirement for a private
kennel was reduced from 5 to 1 acre there would be a flood of people
requesting permits.
Mr. Robinson noted there had only been 2 applications for a private
kennel license in the City in the past 9 years.
Police Officer Jeanie Kenow noted some items specific to cats and pot
belly pigs.
A resident at 6250 Red Maple Lane, felt the ordinance needed to be
restrictive in order to prevent nuisances from occurring rather than
allowing them to happen and having to resolve the issues after the fact.
John Sullivan, commended Mr. Mesich and Mr. Schones for their work
on the ordinance and stated it had been a pleasure to work with them.
He felt the group who worked on this ordinance had diverse input and
had made an attempt to work towards the center. He noted it had been
stated there was not a consensus in the group but he felt there was. He
felt the group had toughened up the ordinance. He stated by allowing
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the number of dogs, etc. to be determined by the Conditional Use Permit
process, situations could be evaluated individually. He felt the Planning
and Zoning Board would make decisions in the best interest of the
residents of the City of Lino Lakes.
Mark Kinney, 6425 Rice Court, stated he did not think this ordinance
would be acceptable to the residents of Lino Lakes. He felt the
restrictions for a private kennel should be left as they were in the
previous ordinance or this ordinance should be sent back for further
consideration.
Mr. Sullivan questioned why the people who were against this ordinance
did not get involved with the planning process. He stated the committee
had worked together to try to determine an ordinance which would work
for the entire City. He felt individual circumstances could be handled by
the Conditional Use Permit process and the Planning and Zoning Board
would not allow a private kennel in an area which was not good for the
whole community.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to close the Public Hearing at 10:00 p.m.
and was supported by Tom Mesich. All voted in favor. Motion carried.
Mr. Mesich explained the committee had tried to establish a set of
guidelines as they worked through the ordinance. The committee felt
putting an artificial number on the number of dogs allowed was not
putting faith in the Conditional Use Permit process. He noted there was
a $350.00 fee for a Conditional Use Permit and he did not feel people
would apply if they were not serious. The kennel license application
requires submittal of a site plan illustrating where the kennel will be
placed, where the neighboring houses located, how it will be kept clean.,
etc. Neighbors within 1000 feet are notified and a public hearing is held.
He noted this ordinance is more restrictive than many other City's animal
ordinances.
Mr. Gelbmann asked under what circumstances an owner would want
more than six dogs in a private kennel.
Mr. Mesich stated there may be special cases which would apply to
smaller dogs such as poodles, etc. This can be addressed with the
Conditional Use Permit process.
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Mr. Gelbmann expressed concern that owners of a private kennel would
breed one dog every year and keep the litters.
Mr. Mesich stated this was not an option. The Conditional Use Permit
would limit the number of animals allowed.
Mr. Gelbmann stated he would like to see a limit on the number of
animals allowed included in the ordinance.
Mr. Mesich noted there were other restrictions stated in the ordinance
which would result in violation such as the kennel being kept properly.
Ms. Wyland noted the Conditional Use Permit also included an annual
review process. Other items have been included in previous Conditional
Use Permits such as restrictions that when one dog expired, it could not
be replaced with another.
Mr. Herr stated he saw a problem with an unspecified number of dogs
being allowed in a private kennel.
Mr. Gelbmann noted there could be situations where a resident would
want to have more dogs, such as raising dogs for dog sledding. But he
agreed that he would like to see a maximum number of dogs allowed
with flexibility for persons with special circumstances.
Mr. Mesich stated he felt the problem in Lino Lakes was not with people
with more than one dog but was with people who owned one dog and
were not responsible.
Mr. Herr stated he would like to see six dogs specified as the maximum
unless there was a reason for exception.
Ms. Wyland stated the reason the number had been eliminated was that
the Committee could not agree on a certain number. They then decided
the Conditional Use Permit was appropriate to determine the number
allowable.
Officer Kenow stated she felt the proposed ordinance would allow for
better enforcement in the field.
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Mr. Herr stated he felt a maximum number of dogs allowed should be 4
and private kennels should only be allowed on lots 5 acres and above.
Mr. Mesich suggested verbiage be included in the ordinance that if a
resident with a Conditional Use Permit receives more than three
violations the Conditional Use Permit will be revoked.
Mr. Gelbmann made a MOTION to approve the Lino Lakes Animal
Ordinance with three modifications; 1. Property of greater than one acre
and less than five acres be allowed 6 dogs in a private kennel.
Properties of 5 acres and above are allowed an unspecified amount of
dogs to be kept in the kennel which will be specified at the time of the
issuance of the Conditional Use Permit. 2. Three or more violations in
one calendar year are grounds for revocation of the Conditional Use
Permit. 3. No leash is required for cats or fish which are kept indoors
at all times and was supported by Al Robinson. All voted in favor.
Motion carried.
VI. DISCUSSION: Ms. Wyland stated due to scheduling difficulties, she
• would contact the Planning and Zoning Board members to schedule the
upcoming work session.
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Mr. Mesich announced this would be his last Lino Lakes Planning and
Zoning Board meeting as he was moving to Elk River. He thanked the
City and stated this had been a great learning experience.
Members of the Board thanked Mr. Mesich for his service.
VII. ADJOURNMENT: Thomas Mesich made a MOTION to adjourn the meeting at
10:37 p.m. and was supported by Guy Herr. All voted in favor. Motion
carried.
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