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PLANNING & ZONING BOARD
February 8, 1995
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES
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MEMBERS PRESENT:
ALSO PRESENT
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February 8, 1995
6 :33 P.M.
58 P.M.
Gelbmann, Landers, Mesich, Nordine,
Robinson, Schaps, Schones
Planning Coordinator Wyland, Building
Inspector Pete Kluegel, Planning Consultant
Brixius, and Acting City Engineer Powell.
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CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Al Robinson made a MOTION to approve
the minutes of the January 11, 1995 meeting as submitted
and was supported by John Landers. All voted aye.
Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Chairman Schaps noted a change to the
agenda regarding item V. D., this item would be continued
until the March 8, 1995 meeting. Chairman Schaps
indicated the Department of Natural Resources had not had
an opportunity to give an opinion and this is the reason
for the continuation.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to approve the agenda as
amended and was supported by Ed Schones. All voted aye.
Motion carried.
OPEN MIKE: Chairman Schaps declared the Open Mike portion
of the meeting opened at 6:36 p.m. Chairman Schaps at
this time asked if anyone in the audience wished to
address the Planning and Zoning Board regarding issues
not already on the agenda.
Kim Sullivan addressed the Board with an update of the
20/20 Vision Community meetings held on January 25 and
26. Ms. Sullivan noted measurable interest in the City
for the project, approximately 250 residents were
involved in the two day meetings or wrote her.
Ms. Sullivan briefly reviewed information that was
discussed at these meetings and the results. Ms.
Sullivan noted the main concerns of residents were:
1. Citizens desire a balance of growth in the city, with
environmentally friendly and in appearance, reflect the
community's strong environmental flavor.
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2. Citizens desire to maintain wetlands and wildlife
habitats.
3. Citizens want this growth to follow a documented plan
about which they are consistently informed.
4. Citizens want concentrated development: town square,
commercial /light industrial parks, residential areas and
open space.
5. Citizens want a community center.
6. Citizens want more community activities, organized
recreation and education.
7. Citizens want more information about city business
issues.
Ms. Sullivan indicated advisory groups will be formed,
made up of 12 -15 members each. Any individual wishing to
be on an advisory group should apply, Ms. Sullivan has
created a two page form that will be filled out and the
applicant is asked to indicate why they are interested in
the group and provide their qualifications.
Ms. Sullivan noted these advisory groups will meet for
approximately eight to ten weeks and then regroup and
form recommendations to the city council and boards
Mr. Mesich inquired how the groups will contain a group
with a variety of ideas and concerns. Ms. Sullivan
indicated this is the reason for the applications, this
will provide an avenue for reviewing the individuals and
establishing a variety for the groups.
Chairman Schaps thanked Ms. Sullivan for her information.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to close the Open Mike portion
of the meeting and was supported by John Landers. All
voted aye. Motion carried. Open Mike portion was closed
at 6:45 p.m.
V. PLANNING ITEMS:
A. 95 -3 -P, Hardwood Creek, 7979 24th Avenue, Minor
Subdivision.
Planning Coordinator Wyland indicated Mr. and Mrs.
Erickson, owners of the property at 7979 24th Avenue,
known as Hardwood Creek Farm, have reconsidered their
requested minor subdivision submitted at the January
Planning and Zoning Board meeting. The revised request
is to split a 10 acre parcel, containing the dwelling,
from the 50+ acre site. Ms. Wyland indicated this 10
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IIIacre parcel will meet the lot area and street frontage
requirements for the rural zoning district.
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Ms. Wyland indicated staff has reviewed the request and
would recommend approval of the minor subdivision as
submitted with the following conditions:
1. A park dedication fee in the amount of $500 be
collected prior to recording of the minor
subdivision with Anoka County.
John Landers made a MOTION to approve the Minor
Subdivision as submitted with conditions listed by staff
and was supported by Tom Mesich. All voted aye. Motion
carried.
Chairman Schaps noted this item will be reviewed by the
Lino Lakes City Council at their February 13, 1995
meeting.
B. PUBLIC HEARING, 95 -3 -C, Kids at Heart Child Care,
7330 Lake Drive, Conditional Use Permit.
Chairman Schaps OPENED the public hearing at 6:50 p.m.
Planning Coordinator Wyland, indicated the Kids at Heart
Child Care Center is located at 7330 Lake Drive in the
Gethsemane Methodist Church building. They have been at
this site since January of 1993 and hold a license from
the State of Minnesota for 35 children. Ms. Wyland noted
that recently a request was submitted to the State to
increase the number of children to 42.
Ms. Wyland noted the State Licensing Division, Fire
Marshall, the Building Inspector and herself have
inspected the site and found it to be in compliance with
all applicable requirements. She indicated the
Conditional Use Permit will be subject to various State
Inspections and City review on an annual basis.
Ms. Wyland indicated staff recommends approval of the
Conditional Use Permit with the following conditions:
1. A License from the Minnesota Department of Human
Services be maintained at all times.
2. Access to the premises be provided upon
notification of annual and periodic inspections
from appropriate City Staff.
3. An increase in the number of children to be
served in the facility will require modification of
the license from the State. Staff would require
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notification of any increase and inspection by the
building inspector and fire marshall to determine
adequacy of structure but waive the requirement of
an Amended Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Landers indicated concern if the facility was
notified of an upcoming inspection, problem areas would
be missed regarding care of the children. Mr. Robinson
indicated notification would help staff identify people
in the building, that normally would not be present.
Mr. Mesich indicated the City is not qualified to denote
any problem areas in the care giving, that would be up to
the Licensing Division, therefore notification would be
a mute issue.
Chairman Schaps invited anyone who had comments regarding
this public hearing to step forward.
Mr. John Dorsuch, 7252 Stage Couch Road, indicated since
the area is being reviewed, he would like to see a cul-
de -sac instead of a dead end street, for traffic
purposes.
Mr. Dan Cook, 7290 Stage Couch Road, indicated drainage
problems due to a ball field constructed on the church
property. City Engineer Powell indicated the issue would
be reviewed in the spring.
Mr. Cook indicated he was not opposed to the day care,
but just wanted the drainage issue addressed.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to close the public hearing and
was supported by Rick Gelbmann. All voted aye. Motion
carried. Public hearing was CLOSED at 7:08 p.m.
Ed Schones indicated he would like to add a fourth
condition directing staff to review the drainage and
grading issues and address them this spring.
Ed Schones made a MOTION to approve the Conditional Use
Permit for Kids at Heart Child Care, 7330 Lake Drive with
the stated four conditions and was supported by Al
Robinson. All voted aye. Motion carried. Tom Mesich
abstained from voting.
C. 95 -5 -P, Wayne Scanlan, 6848 Otter Lake Road, Minor
Subdivision
Planning Coordinator Wyland indicated Mr. Wayne Scanlan,
owner of the Otter Lake veterinarian Clinic at 6848 Otter
Lake Road, is requesting a Minor Subdivision to split a
4.01 parcel of property from his 5.45 acre lot. Ms.
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• Wyland noted both the existing lot and the newly created
lot will meet the lot size requirement.
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Ms. Wyland indicated the City's Economic Development
Advisory board would recommend approval of this proposed
lot split. The property is intended to be sold for the
development of a pet supply and dog training facility.
Ms. Wyland added a site plan review will, most likely, be
submitted for Planning and Zoning Board review in the
near future.
Ms. Wyland indicated staff has reviewed this request and
would recommend approval of the Minor Subdivision with
the following condition:
1. A Park Dedication fee in an amount as determined
by Ordinance No. 5 -91 be submitted prior to
issuance of any building permits for the site.
This fee is determined based on both the use of a
building and the size of said building, therefore,
a determination of the actual Park Dedication Fee
can not be made at this time.
Mr. Landers inquired if the dogs would be housed on site.
Ms. Wyland indicated they would not be housed, it would
be a training facility only.
Mr. Scanlan indicated the facility would be used for
obedience and show training.
Chairman Schaps inquired as to what time frame the
developer is estimating completion. Mr. Scanlan
indicated a fall goal has been set for completion.
Mr. Schones indicated concern that an on -site septic
system would be allowed on a small acre parcel. Ms.
Wyland indicated their is not a 10 acre requirement for
industrial zones.
John Landers made a MOTION to approve the Minor
Subdivision for 6848 Otter Lake Road, with stated
condition and was supported by Al Robinson. 6 voted aye
1 nay, Mr. Schones voting nay. Motion carried.
D. Shoreland Management Ordinance. CONTINUED TO MARCH
MEETING.
E. PUBLIC HEARING MUSA Amendment.
Planning Consultant Brixius indicated a "Neighborhood
Meeting" was held on Thursday, February 2, 1995. He
indicated the meeting was well attended. As a result of
the meeting, approximately six properties were removed
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III from the designated growth area and a few properties
added.
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Mr. Brixius presented a report regarding the MUSA
amendment and its contents. Mr. Brixius noted the
designated growth areas and estimated growth rate.
Mr. Brixius explained the designated growth areas are
areas that are anticipated to have the greatest pressure
to develop, due to surrounding existing developments.
Mr. Brixius reiterated, although an area is designated,
it in no way states that this area will be developed,
that will be up to the individual property owner.
Mr. Brixius indicated the benefit of the Land Bank
procedure is so that property owners are not required to
pay inflated taxes due to property value based on
designated MUSA land. He indicated this would give the
owner an opportunity to decide whether their property
should be developed or not, if undeveloped it would not
be included in MUSA designation.
Mr. Robinson inquired if there is 40 acres to be
developed but only 20 acres is buildable and the rest is
wetland, is the entire amount contributed as MUSA land.
Mr. Brixius indicated only the buildable land would be
attributed to MUSA land.
Mr. Schones indicated that the fact that Lino Lakes
contains so much wetland, should be a viable cause for
the Met Council to review the flexibility requests. Mr.
Brixius indicated actually the Charter will be more
viable as an indication of unique features in Lino Lakes.
Chairman Schaps CONTINUED the public hearing at this time
and opened the floor for public comment.
Mr. Christopher Lyden, 6275 Holly Drive, inquired if the
City decides that 300 homes a year is too much for
development, what is the recourse. Mr. Brixius indicated
the City will continue to have control on the amount of
development and what kind of development.
Mr. Lyden indicated he did not feel the Land Bank would
provide efficiency and believed it to be premature. Mr.
Gelbmann indicated the efficiency referred to regarding
the amendment, is in regards to providing urban services,
such as utilities, emergency services, not how the City
develops and how many house can be developed in one year.
Ms. Amy Donlin read a letter from her father, Mr. Art
Hawkins regarding the MUSA amendment. He had indicated
he felt further review should be made and numbers
verified before the City move forward. Mr. Hawkins did
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state the proposed ordinance presented a wealth of
information for long -range planning, but hoped the word
was not final yet.
Ms. Donlin then indicated resident concerns for well
rounded development and not just roof top development.
Mr. Maurice Chenal inquired if the MUSA would require low
cost housing to be included in development. He also
inquired as to the determination of affordable housing.
Mr. Brixius indicated affordable housing is based on the
regions average income, and currently Lino Lakes has one -
third of stock of homes that are under $90,000.
Mr. Gerald Clausen, 6129 Baldwin Lake Road, indicated he
was against the requirement for residents to hook up to
city sewer. He believes his property would not benefit
from city sewer and would only impose unnecessary
additional taxes.
Mr. Powell indicated clarification, residents will not be
forced to hook to city sewer as dictated by the City
Charter. Mr. Powell indicated because the MUSA is
designated does not mean the sewer will be developed.
Mr. Powell also indicated when assessments are made, the
burden of proof falls on the City to show that utilities
will appreciated the value of the property. If this
cannot be proven in an amount at least equal to the
proposed assessment, the assessment is not allowed.
Mr. Powell noted for information that other areas such as
North Oaks has had contamination to on -site septic
systems and sometimes on -site septic system can provide
for a catastrophic circumstances.
Mr. Paul Montain indicated support for the MUSA amendment
and noted he believed this to be a tool to help the City
better plan development in the future. He noted
residents are not forced to develop, but those who wish
to develop their land can then have an opportunity to
apply for MUSA designation.
Ms. Sue Moliter, 7806 Sunset Avenue, indicated support
for the MUSA amendment and noted she was impressed with
the City staff and all their efforts. Ms. Moliter
indicated she had attended the 20/20 Community meeting
and the concern was for proper planning. She believed
the MUSA amendment is the preliminary stage and will
compliment the goals of the residents, therefore there
would be no reason to wait to proceed with the amendment.
Ms. Moliter indicated the rights of all residents need to
be insured, including the residents who wish to develop
portions of their properties.
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Ms. Tracy Douglas, 540 Lilac Street, indicated support
for the MUSA amendment.
Mr. Duff Dorshner, 307 Lilac Street, inquired if he
wished to divide his property how would his taxes be
affected. Mr. Brixius indicated his taxes would not be
affected until the time of actual development, excluding
any increase in property value.
Mr. John Johnson indicated support for the MUSA
amendment, he is representing Mr. Gary Uhde who will be
developing 40 acres in the Behm's Century Farms project.
Mr. John Thompson indicated his property is located along
Baldwin Lake Road and is in support of the MUSA
amendment. He believes the Land Bank system to be a
practical way to development Lino Lakes.
Mr. Roger Weisner, 499 -62nd Street, indicated support for
the MUSA amendment and is looking forward to development.
Ms. Alice Junes inquired how her land that has been
designated as growth area could be developed, since over
50 percent is wetland. Mr. Brixius indicated that her
land would not be developed unless she requested platting
and then she would apply for MUSA designation, if it is
not in the desire of the owner to develop they do not
have to develop.
Mr. Tom Donlin indicated general support for Land
Banking, but noted a couple of problems. First he
indicated transportation will have to be addressed, and
secondly schools.
Mr. Chris Lavear, indicated he believed the City should
slow down and wait for the recommendations of the 20/20
Community Project.
Mr. Mesich inquired as to amount of land zoned R -1 and R-
lx. Mr. Brixius noted except for a small portion the
land is not zoned. Mr. Mesich indicated then the City
still has control over the development that would be
constructed. Mr. Brixius indicated this would be
correct.
Chairman Schaps indicated there is also the possibility
that the Met Council might not even accept this MUSA
amendment.
Ms. Sharon Lane indicated her support for the 20/20
Community Project and felt the City should wait until
June when recommendations from the community have been
made.
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Ms. Wyland indicated she had received a letter from a
resident from, 505 62nd Street, wished not to be included
in the designated growth area.
Ms. Caroline Dahl indicated she would like the City to
wait until the recommendations of the Community Project
are presented.
Chairman Schaps indicated this MUSA amendment provides a
vehicle by which to develop, but does not establish
developments. He indicated this would also provide for
flexibility against citizens being unfairly taxed if the
land is never going to be developed.
Mr. Schones indicated his desire to wait on a decision.
Ms. Nordine commented that moving forward would not
affect the recommendations of the 20/20 Community
Project.
Mr. Robinson publicly thanked Ms. Nordine for her
contributions to the Planning and Zoning Board, this
would perhaps be Ms. Nordine's last meeting.
(Ms. Nordine excused herself at 9:05 p.m.)
Ms. Wyland noted that she had received a letter from Ray
Miller, property owner along 62nd Street, who would like
to be included in the designated growth area.
Mr. Tim Kytonen indicated support for the MUSA amendment
and noted interest in developing land south of Fox Trace.
Mr. Tom McDonough indicated support for the MUSA
amendment as a property owner near Ash Street and Baldwin
Lake Road.
Ms. Joyce Sharpen indicated support for the MUSA
amendment, she noted the City should proceed and not
wait.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to CLOSE the public hearing and
was supported by Tom Mesich. All voted aye. Motion
carried.
Discussion was held at length regarding the MUSA
amendment.
Ed Schones made a MOTION to table the MUSA amendment
until a later date and was supported by John Landers:
Ayes: Schones, Landers
Nays: Gelbmann, Mesich, Schapes Robinson
Motion was failed.
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Al Robinson made a MOTION to approve the MUSA amendment
and was supported by Rick Gelbmann.
Ayes: Robinson, Gelbmann, Schaps, Mesich
Nays: Landers, Schones
Motion carried.
Chairman Schaps called a brief recess at 9:25 p.m.
The meeting was reconvened at 9:38 p.m.
F. Ordinance N. 1 -95 Revisions to Fence Ordinance PUBLIC
HEARING.
Chairman Schaps OPENED the public hearing at 9:39 p.m.
Planning Coordinator Wyland indicated at the request of
our Building Inspector, City Staff has reviewed the
existing fence ordinance and proposed changes.
Ms. Wyland indicated staff has reviewed the fence
ordinance in several adjoining communities including
Circle Pines, Blaine, Hugo, Forest Lake, White Bear
Township, New Brighton, and Arden Hills.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to CLOSE the public hearing and
was supported by Rick Gelbmann. All voted aye. Motion
carried.
Discussion was held regarding fence requirements for
businesses.
By consensus the addition to condition number six was
removed and left as originally written.
Rick Gelbmann made a MOTION to approve the Ordinance
Amending the Fence Ordinance and was supported by Al
Robinson. All voted aye. Motion carried.
VI. DISCUSSION: Mr. Landers requested information regarding
low income housing at a future meeting.
VII. ADJOURNMENT: Al Robinson made a MOTION to adjourn the
meeting. All voted aye. Motion carried. The meeting
was adjourned at 9:58 p.m.
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