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PLANNING & ZONING BOARD
June 8, 1994
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES
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.1SO RESENT : Planning:.
Schneider,
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL:
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
May 11, 1994 - Al Robinson moved approval of the minutes as
submitted and was supported by John Landers. All voted aye.
Motion carried.
May 18, 1994 - Al Robinson moved approval of the minutes as
submitted and was supported by Rick Gelbmann. All voted aye.
Motion carried.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: The Agenda was approved as presented.
IV. OPEN MIRE: No one was present to speak under Open Mike.
V. ACTION ITEMS:
94 -15 -V, Niel Banta, 7829 Nottingham Lane, Variance
Planning Coordinator Wyland reviewed this request which is to
allow the construction of a 384 square foot addition to the
existing 528 square foot garage. Mr. Banta also has an 800
square foot storage building on his property. The property is
Zoned Rural, contains 1.09 acres, and is allowed a total of
1100 square feet of garage area. Property consisting of 1.25
acres or more would be allowed an 1100 square foot garage and
an 800 square foot storage building. The variance in this
case is for 712 square feet of garage area.
The Staff report indicated that variance requests are
generally discouraged unless there is an obvious hardship.
There does not appear to be one in this case. However, Mr.
Banta was insistent. There is some concern that should this
request be granted, the door would be opened for future,
similar requests.
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Mr. Banta was present and stated that his closest neighbor has
no objections to the request. He added that he could purchase
an additional 20' or so from the neighbor and then have the
additional square footage necessary to allow the proposed
construction. However, his lot is large now, the storage
building is screened by tall evergreen trees, and he would
prefer the variance request. When the storage building was
construction, in about 1983, it was a permitted use. (NOTE:
the Accessory Building Ordinance prior to 1990 allowed an 800
square foot storage building on property from 1 to 2 1/2 acres
in size in addition to an attached or detached garage).
Kathy Nordine asked what the existing storage building was
used for. Mr. Banta explained that he has a boat and motor
home stored in the building. She also asked if he would be
willing to remove that building to comply with the square
footage requirements - he was not and added that you can not
see the storage building from the street.
Mr. Schones stated that Mr. Banta is to be commended for
having such a well maintained property. However, he expressed
concern at setting a precedent by granting this variance - we
need to follow the rules we have established for the overall
good of the community.
There was some discussion concerning how this variance could
be granted without setting a precedent. Planning Consultant
Brixius indicated that if specific findings of fact are found
that would be unique to this site it may be possible.
Kathy Nordine suggested looking at the characteristics of the
neighborhood - large lots, some over 1.25 acres which would
allow the additional storage building, the fact that this is
going from a two car garage to a three and three car garages
are becoming more the norm.
Chairman Schaps suggested that the P & Z take time to consider
the request and what options are available and is it possible
to approve without setting a precedent.
After some discussion, Al Robinson made a motion recommending
that Mr. Banta return to the July meeting to allow the P & Z
time to consider his request. John Landers seconded the
motion. All voted aye. Motion carried.
B. 94 -11 -P, Trappers Crossing, Preliminary Plat /PD
This item was continued from the May 11, 1994 P & Z Meeting.
The Public Hearing was closed at the May meeting.
Chairman Schaps asked if there were any additional comments
from Staff. There were none.
• Mr. Corsan, representing Hokanson Development, stated that he
was confused about the status of the PDO. He stated that the
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PDO tool had been used in the platting of Quail Ridge, Park
Grove, and Pine Ridge. This particular plat has only four (4)
lots which do not meet the R -1X area requirements. The lot
width requirements are adhered to on 95% of the lots. The
flexibility that is being requested is on the interior of the
plat - the exterior lots all meet or far exceed the
requirements of the R -1X District. If the plat is redrawn to
conform to the R -1X standards, there would need to be
additional street area and the exterior lots would become
smaller. Mr. Corsan stated that the plan presented would look
the best and adhering to the R -1X requirements would not
improve the looks of the development. (He did not have a
drawing of an arrangement that would meet the R -1X
requirements as requested by the P & Z) The economics of the
plat are indicating that the costs will exceed $38,000 per lot
therefore requiring open field lots demanding a price of
$50,000. The Quail Ridge Plat has lots ranging from $32,900
- 49,900 with amenities like open space and wooded lots.
Al Robinson stated that when the Plat for Quail Ridge was
approved there were certain requirements regarding erosion
control. These requirements have not been met. Kirk Corson
explained that they have cleaned the street twice and used 100
lbs. of seed and hay bales for the drainage swales. The homes
in the plat were constructed in the winter and road
restrictions just went off May llth. Homeowners are putting
in their driveways, landscaping and should be sodding within
the next few weeks. Mr. Robinson indicated that Hokansons
track record was not good and the plat looks like heck. The
P & Z's intention was that the plat look good and there be no
erosion into the wetlands or storm sewer system or onto the
streets. These are the reasons I have problems with this PDO
request.
Planning Consultant Brixius advised the P & Z that the PDO
Classification has nothing to do with the erosion problems in
Quail Ridge.
Chairman Schaps stated that he believes Hokanson is shaded by
the numbers - he had wanted to see what the plat would look
like as R -1X. What we asked be done has not been done!
John Landers asked how many lots they would lose. Mr. Corsan
indicated about four which would increase the costs to over
$40,000 /lot.
Chris Lyden asked if the residents would have an opportunity
to speak to the 47 lots that do not meet the requirements of
R -1X Zoning. Chairman Schaps stated that the Public Hearing
had been closed at the last meeting.
Al Robinson then made a MOTION to deny the preliminary plat
and PDO as presented. John Landers seconded the motion. All
voted aye. Motion carried.
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VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
A. MUSA AMENDMENT: Al Brixius advised the P & Z that staff
would be meeting next week with the Metro Council to discuss
a MUSA Amendment. We may be seeking an arrangement similar to
Lakeville's where the MUSA Areas is held in a banking type
arrangement. This Amendment will set framework for an
updating of the Comprehensive Plan as outlined in the report
dated June 2, 1994.
Ed Schones stated that the report presented was a top notch
piece of work. Mr. Robinson stated that Lino Lakes is unique
in several aspects - large park areas cutting through center
of the community, extensive wetlands, City Charter
constraints. Mr. Landers asked if this item was open to
public discussion. Chairman Schaps stated - not at this time.
Mr. Landers added that there is a group of citizens, himself
included, who would like to see a new Citizen Survey done to
see what direction the citizens want the City to go. Al
Brixius stated that a full comprehensive plan revision will
address many issues, including sewer, water, transportation,
zoning. The Council has directed staff to pursue these
discussions with the Metro Council.
Diana Turner of 7404 Sunset was present and stated that she is
interested in what is going on for the future of Lino Lakes.
She is interested in volunteering to help in the process and
thinks a Citizen Survey would be a good idea. Chairman Schaps
suggested she make this request to the Council as the P & Z is
only an advisory body.
Al Robinson asked what are the chances of getting a banking
type system approved by the Metro Council. Mr. Brixius
indicated that he would know more after next week.
VI. ADJOURNMENT: Upon the unanimous consent of the Board the
meeting was adjourned at 8:10 P.M.
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