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PLANNING & ZONING BOARD
October 12, 1994
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES
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CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL:
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Al Robinson made a MOTION to approve
the minutes of the September 14, 1994 meeting as submitted
and was supported by John Landers. All voted aye. Motion
carried.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Item V C a public hearing pertaining to
the Marshan Condominiums has been withdrawn from the agenda
by the applicant.
• IV. OPEN MIKE: Chairman Schaps declared the Open Mike portion
of the meeting opened at 6:35 p.m. Chairman Schaps at this
time asked if anyone in the audience wished to address the
Planning and Zoning Board.
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Michelle Whitney came forward inquiring about a variance
request and permit fees. Chairman Schaps indicated perhaps
this item should be under the Discussion portion of the
agenda, the Board concurred.
Bruce Hanson, 6980 Lake Drive, addressed the Planning and
Zoning Board inquiring if the rezoning of the property for
the Marshan Condominiums was also not going to be addressed
at this time. Chairman Schaps indicated the rezoning and
review of the preliminary plat would be postponed along with
the public hearing.
Steve Hoppe made comments regarding the public hearing to be
held for the Marshan Condominiums. Chairman Schaps
indicated Mr. Hoppe would be able to relate his concerns at
the public hearing to be held at a later date. He then
inquired as to the current zoning of the property. Planning
Consultant Alan Brixius indicated the current zoning is R -4,
High Density Residential. Mr. Hoppe inquired if the Board
has any power to change what type of development is on the
site. Chairman Schaps clarified that the Board is an
advisory board and the final approval lies with the City
Council. Mr. Brixius noted Staff has met with the applicant
revealing concerns of Staff and the applicant has removed
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the item from the agenda to further review options. Mr.
Hoppe inquired as to who is able to request rezoning of a
property. Mr. Brixius indicated either the City or the
property owner, but not surrounding property owners.
Chairman Schaps suggested Mr. Hoppe contact the developer to
set up a meeting between the developer and neighborhood.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to close the Open Mike portion of
the meeting and was supported by John Landers. All voted
aye. Motion carried. Open Mike portion was closed at 6:47
p.m.
V. PLANNING ITEMS:
A. 94 -24 -P, PUBLIC HEARING, K -G Development Inc.,
Preliminary Plat for the Woods of Baldwin Lake II.
Planning Consultant Alan Brixius presented a brief report
regarding this request for a preliminary plat application
for the Woods of Baldwin Lake 2nd Addition to divide a 5.6
acre property into 13 single family lots. The property is
located in the southeast corner of the intersection of White
Pine Road and Baldwin Lake Road. The property lies within
the R -1X, Single Family Executive Residential District.
Mr. Brixius recommends approval of the Woods of Baldwin Lake
2nd Addition preliminary plat, subject to the following
conditions:
1. The Grading, Drainage, and Utility Plan is subject
to review and approval by the City Engineer and the
Rice Creek Watershed District.
2. Utility easements must be provided on the Final
Plat, and be at least 10 feet wide, centered on rear
and other lot lines. Said easements are also subject
to review and approval of the City Engineer.
3. All building pad elevations must be at least 3 feet
above the high water level of the wetlands.
4. The applicant must make a cash contribution in the
amount of 10 percent of the fair market value of the
subject property to satisfy the park dedication
requirement.
5. The applicant shall enter into a development
agreement with the City.
6. Comments by other City Staff.
• Mr. Landers inquired if there were concerns of drainage,
since on the First Addition there were problems with a
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resident's driveway that was under water due to the
development. Mr. Landers inquired if the City can assure
the surrounding residents of no future problems.
Acting City Engineer John Powell indicated the majority of
the flow is south and would go towards the roadway, not
causing the same type of problem as with the First Addition.
Chairman Schaps inquired if the applicant would like to make
a presentation.
Mr. Rocky Goertz, president of K -G Development, stepped
forward to answer any questions the Board might have. Mr.
Goertz indicated a permit from the Rice Creek Watershed is
pending.
Chairman Schaps OPENED the public hearing at 6:55 p.m.
Mr. John Thompson, 6125 Baldwin Lake Road, indicated
concerns regarding drainage. Mr. Thompson owns the property
directly across from this development. Mr. Thompson has no
real objection to the development, but has concerns
regarding the holding pond, and that the water would drain
across his land. Mr. Thompson indicated the property on
that portion of his land is already low and he uses it
currently as a horse pasture. Mr. Thompson foresees
problems with the drainage.
Mr. Powell indicated several options that would resolve Mr.
Thompson's concerns. Mr. Powell indicated emergency
overflow would need to be clarified by the developer's
engineer.
Ms. Roxanne Lapadat, 130 Woodridge Lane, indicated she had
concerns that she was not notified of this meeting tonight.
Planning Coordinator Wyland indicated the requirement of
notification is for property owners within 350 feet of the
site. Ms. Lapadat indicated she was too far, perhaps, for
notification.
Ms. Lapadat indicated a concern for traffic speed on
Woodridge Lane. She suggested perhaps a stop sign could be
added for Woodridge Lane traffic at Oakwood to slow traffic
down. Ms. Lapadat indicated the construction traffic is
also a concern, perhaps construction traffic could be
blocked.
Mr. Arlyn Wiersema owns property considered wetlands. He
also has concern for the traffic.
Mr. Jim Massa lives on the North side of Baldwin Lake Road
where White Pine Road intersects. Mr. Massa indicated he
built a home a year ago and came before this Board and the
neighborhood voted down a sewer system. Mr. Massa's concern
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was if he would be assessed for the new sewer system that is
proposed.
Mr. Powell indicated Mr. Massa would not be assessed for the
sewer system unless he was to connect to the system. Mr.
Powell indicated the cost of the sewer extension is being
covered by the developer.
Mr. Don McMahan, 6116 Baldwin Lake Road, indicated several
concerns: 1)traffic, construction workers from previous
developments have trespassed on his land using his driveway;
2)erosion from the excavation of the development;
3)drainage; 4)cash contribution instead of land for park
dedication.
Ms. Mary Ann McDougal, 6116 Baldwin Lake Road, inquired if
a temporary fence could be put up so as not to infringe on
the easement of their property and if the Board could
require this as part of the agreement. Chairman Schaps felt
this could be established.
Ms. McDougal inquired as to the plan for street lights. Mr.
Powell was not sure about the plans and will ask the Public
Works Department and inform Ms. McDugal.
Mr. Robinson indicated a silt fence is required.
Mr. Goertz assured the residents if anytime during
development there are concerns, please contact him, a number
will be on a sign at the site and he would be happy to
resolve any problems that may arise. Mr. Goertz indicated
good public relations is essential to a good business.
Mr. Goertz indicated the Rice Creek Watershed District is
strict on their policies and erosion is a concern that is
addressed in the permit process. A silt fence is required
and would be kept in place. Regarding the drainage concern,
alternatives to a culvert could be addressed.
Mr. Goertz indicated traffic problems, should they arise
where subcontractors are endangering children or families,
to please notify him. Mr. Goertz will follow any directions
the City indicates with signs and flow of traffic.
Mr. Goertz, referring to park dedication, noted there is not
enough land available for dedication and the dollar amount
of the contribution is sizeable, between $15,000 and
$16,000.
Mr. Goertz stated he would have a neighborhood meeting to
address any additional concerns of the residents.
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Al Robinson made a MOTION and was supported by Ed Schones to
CLOSE the public hearing. All vote aye. Motion carried.
The public hearing was closed at 7:30 p.m.
Mr. Powell addressed drainage concerns and also indicated
the Park Board is addressing trespassing onto the McDougal's
land by installing a barricade to prevent vehicular and
other trespassing. Mr. Powell indicated erosion issue is
also addressed by MPCA with the permitting process.
John Landers made a MOTION to deny application for
Preliminary Plat, due to the unresolved issue of drainage
and was not supported.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to approve application for
Preliminary Plat of Woods of Baldwin Lake II with stated
conditions.
Ed Schones inquired as to the inclusion of a silt fence on
this motion. Mr. Brixius recommended since the McDougal's
easement is outside the plat, the Commission could recommend
all plat access occur within the public street right of way
or within the plat itself.
Al Robinson indicated he would make an AMENDMENT to the
MOTION, stating all plat access occur through the public
street right -of -way or within the plat boundaries, and was
supported by Rick Gelbmann. 5 voted aye - 1 voted nay, with
John Landers opposing. Motion carried.
Chairman Schaps indicated this item would be considered at
the City Council Meeting on October 24, 1994 for those who
are interested.
Al Robinson requested to be excused at 7:40 p.m.
B. 94 -25 -P, PUBLIC HEARING, Gore -em LLC, Preliminary Plat
and Rezoning from Rural to R -1 Single Family for Clearwater
Creek.
Mr. Brixius presented a brief report indicating Gore -em L.L.
Corporation's request for preliminary plat approval of a 157
lot single family subdivision entitled Clearwater Creek. The
subject 121 acre site is located east of Interstate 35E and
south of Cedar Street.
Mr. Brixius indicated the proposed subdivision will open a
new area of Lino Lakes for development. The successful
development of the residential plat will offer the City the
opportunity to provide municipal utilities to the I -35 and
County Road 14 interchange area, opening areas of commercial
and industrial zoning for economic development.
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Mr. Brixius indicated several studies are ongoing including:
TDKA, an Area Wide Utility Feasibility Study; SEH, The Otter
Lake Improvement and Alignment; and OSM, in cooperation with
the City of Hugo, the City is participating in an area Storm
Water Management Study.
Mr. Brixius reviewed concerns of Staff. He stated that with
a number of studies pertinent to this subdivision being
outstanding, he does not believe sufficient information is
available to properly evaluate this development proposal.
He recommended a continuation of the public hearing to the
November Planning and Zoning Board meeting.
Mr. Gelbmann inquired as to the current traffic generation.
Mr. Brixius indicated he did not have that information
available tonight.
Mr. Gelbmann indicated the Town of White Bear Lake has
approved a multi - theater complex on Centerville and Ash,
will this have an impact on the traffic. Mr. Brixius
indicated they have received the traffic impact analysis and
he believes this information was available to SEH when their
report was made.
Mr. Landers indicated a concern for the number of new homes
that would be built through the five year phasing, this
would indicate 91.2 new homes each year and he feels this is
too many. Mr. Brixius indicated generally the limit to
phasing would be based on market conditions.
Chairman Schaps OPENED the public hearing at 7:55 p.m.,
reminding the audience that the public hearing will be
continued to the November meeting.
Mr. Jay Cain, 6584 Otter Lake Road, indicated he had several
comments and question. Mr. Cain indicated his property,
which is directly south of the proposed development, is not
for sale for development.
Chairman Schaps requested Mr. Cain to point out his
property, which is directly south of the proposed
development.
Mr. Cain indicated a concern that this development would be
an "island" of development and incompatible to surrounding
land use, surrounding properties are horse farms and to
suggest this property is compatible is incorrect.
Mr. Cain noted this type of development would be very costly
and inquired if the City is subsidizing the project in any
way. Staff indicated the developer would cover all costs of
the project.
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Mr. Cain inquired if the developer is covering the cost of
wells, etc., how can this be indicated as opening up the
area for future development. Mr. Powell stated any
improvements that benefit the City, such as storage tanks or
wells sized for City use, would be covered by the City.
Mr. Cain inquired if the costs would be made available to
the public. He also stated that he had a major concern for
a proposed roadway intersecting onto the 55 mph roadway, the
intersection is on the crest of the hill and entry onto the
roadway would be blinded. Mr. Cain also questioned the Park
Dedication as the area indicated is swamp land. Mr. Brixius
indicated the Park District will be reviewing the location
of the Park Dedication at their meeting on the first Monday
of November.
Maryanne Cross - Schmitz, 6579 24th Avenue, indicated concerns
regarding the wildlife on the land. Ms. Cross - Schmitz
agrees with Mr. Cain and does not feel the development is
compatible, she is opposed to the development.
Mr. Ken Speltz, 6440 Otter Lake Road, property south of Mr.
Cain, agrees the development is not compatible. He believes
this Otter Lake Road will not be able to support the
traffic and that the lifestyles of his family and neighbors
would be drastically affected by this development.
Ms. Tammy Flechner lives directly east of Mr. Cain. Ms.
Flechner indicated the value of her property is
approximately $300,000 and feels the development would
decrease the value of her property. Ms. Flechner indicated
concerns for the wildlife which she enjoys on her property.
Ms. Flechner indicated the mature trees would also be
affected. She recommended the developer meet with the
surrounding property owners to address the concerns of the
neighbors.
Mr. Mike Cross - Schmitz, indicated concerns regarding the
drainage. He indicated he also will not be selling any
portion of his land.
Mr. Tony Emmrick developer for the property stepped forward.
Mr. Emmrick indicated the majority of the homes would be
executive homes. Mr. Emmrick indicated a neighborhood
meeting would be set before the next Planning and Zoning
Board meeting.
Chairman Schaps inquired as to the proposed price range of
the homes to be developed. Mr. Emmrick indicated the price
would range from $150,000 to $450,000.
Mr. Schones inquired as to the number of homes in the
411 phasing. Mr. Emmrick indicated the number would still be
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III approximately 100 per year, but he noted he would work with
the City.
Ms. Nordine inquired as to what the developer would do, if
he was not able to obtain the additional land desired. Mr.
Emmrick indicated the land currently under contract would
meet any critical mass requirements and cover any utility
costs.
Mr. Landers inquired as to the location of the sewer and
water. Mr. Powell indicated it would be via a lift station
to the force main on Cedar Street to the Forest Lake
interceptor. The water source and storage would be located
on the east of 35E with a trunk extension across 35E to the
rest of the system.
Mr. Landers inquired if the resident who do not wish to sell
would be affected by the sewer and water development. Mr.
Powell indicated it would have to be developed within the
plat.
Ms. Karen Cunningham, 2310 Cedar Street, explained her
property would border the development. Ms. Cunningham's
concern is the drainage, the surrounding wetlands, and a
concern for the wildlife. She felt her way of life would be
affected and opposes the development.
Mr. Jim Keefe, 6300 Rolling Hills Drive, directly south of
the second phase, indicated concerns of development located
in the middle of large acreage, creating an island of
development. Mr. Keefe indicated opposition to the
development.
Ed Schones made a MOTION to CONTINUE the public hearing
until the November meeting and was supported by Rick
Gelbmann. All voted aye. Motion carried.
VI. DISCUSSION
A. Michelle Whitney inquired as to the feasibility of a
variance for an accessory building. Her property is located
in a Neighborhood Business Zoning District and is considered
a pre- existing non - conforming use. No structural
alterations are allowed. Ms. Whitney indicated earlier she
would like to construct an addition to her garage for a
total of 960 square feet. The existing garage is 460 square
feet.
Planning Coordinator Wyland indicated this problem is not an
unusual one, and Staff has discussed reviewing the issue.
Mr. Landers inquired as to the size of surrounding lots.
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Ms. Whitney noted the average size of the lots is one acre.
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Ms. Whitney indicated the property in question is
approximately two lots north of a possible realignment of
Apollo Drive (Lilac) at Lake Drive.
Mr. Brixius indicated the premise of the Non - Conforming Use
Regulations is to allow use to continue after it becomes
Non - Conforming. Mr. Brixius indicated the issue of
accommodating the single family homes is faced on a daily
basis and recommended that perhaps amending the ordinance
could be considered.
Ms. Nordine indicated changing the ordinance would take
longer than providing a variance. Mr. Brixius indicated a
variance would set precedence on the issue, but could be
covered in the new ordinance.
Ed Schones inquired as to what is allowed in R -1 District,
for accessory buildings. Ms. Wyland indicated 1,000 square
feet is the limit to the size of the building, no matter the
size of the home.
After discussion, it was concurred if the variance would
come before this Board it would be denied.
Ed Schones made a MOTION to direct City Staff to review
Ordinances relating to Non - conforming Uses to correct this
problem and future problems, and was supported by John
Landers. All voted aye. Motion carried.
B. Behm's Century Farm /Lino Air Park - Discussion. Mr.
Brixius briefly review the issue for Board members. He
indicated Gary Uhde has discussed the acquisition of this
portion of Lino Air Park and is looking at the potential re-
subdivision in conjunction with Behm's Century Farms. A
P.D.O. may be necessary to allow hanger facilities for those
sites on the air park.
Ms. Nordine inquired as to the size of the hangers. Mr.
Brixius indicated approximately 40' x 40' or larger.
Discussion was held relating to the Air Park and the
proposed P.D.O. Mr. Brixius indicated he would provide a
site plan for review at the November meeting.
C. Accessory Building Ordinance. Ms. Wyland presented a
brief report regarding the request for Ordinance review.
Ms. Wyland indicated following a denial of a variance
request by Mr. Neil Banta, the City Council directed staff
to review the accessory building section of the Zoning
Ordinance, in particular Section 4, Subd. 7 (9) (G) which
deals with accessory building specifications for lots 32,671
acres to less than 1.25 acres in size.
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Ms. Wyland indicated staff believes that the current
accessory building requirements are satisfactory and should
not be altered to increase the amount of accessory building
space permitted. The City Building Inspector supports the
existing ordinance 100 %.
D. Chairman Schaps requested a letter from Carolyn Graff of
6613 Ruffed Grouse Road be entered into the record.
Chairman Schaps reviewed the concerns of the Graffs and the
unsightly stock pile of dirt located near their property.
Chairman Schaps indicated the City has taken steps to
resolve the problem by freezing any further building permits
for the Quail Ridge Development.
E. A question was raised referring to monuments on
developments. Ms. Wyland indicated it is not a requirement
and that some developers have taken it upon themselves to
construct the monuments. The City sees them as somewhat of
a future maintenance concern.
VII. ADJOURNMENT: Upon unanimous consent of the Board the meeting
was adjourned at 9:32 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth McLaurin
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial
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