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Planning & Zoning Board
November 9, 1994
CITY OF LINO LAKES
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MINUTES
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Planning Coordinator Wyland, Economic
Development Director Wessel, Planning
Consul Brixius, and Acting City Engineer
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CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: John Landers made a MOTION to
approve the minutes of the October 12, 1994 meeting as
submitted and was supported by Ed Schones. Tom Mesich
abstained, Gelbmann, Landers, Nordine, Robinson, Schaps
and Schones all voted aye. Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Agenda was approved as presented.
OPEN MIKE: There was no one present to speak under Open
Mike.
ACTION ITEMS:
A. 94 -27 -S, Hardwood Creek Farm, 2306 80th Street Site
Plan Review.
Planning Coordinator Mary Kay Wyland presented a staff
report regarding this request to move a single family
home onto the property located at 2306 80th Street. The
property is located on the south /west corner of 80th
Street and Elmcrest Avenue and is Zoned R -BR.
Ms. Wyland indicated the City's Building Inspector, Pete
Kluegel, has inspected the dwelling and indicated the
structure is sound and in good repair.
Ms. Wyland indicated staff would recommend approval of
the request to relocate a structure to the property at
2306 80th Street. The staff recommends the address for
the new structure will be on Elmcrest Avenue. As a
condition of approval staff would suggest the following:
1. A permit be obtained from the Rice Creek
Watershed District. We understand that an
application is being reviewed by the Board on
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2. Proper building permits be obtained for the
structure and garage addition.
3. The septic system be installed as per the
recommendation of Mr. Dale Eklin.
Mr. Gelbmann inquired if there is a limit to dwellings on
a property. Ms. Wyland indicated in the R -BR zoning
there is no required limit.
Ed Schones made a MOTION to recommend to the City Council
approval of application 94 -27 -S, Hardwood Creek Farm,
2306 80th Street, Site Plan Review with conditions
outlined above and was supported by Rick Gelbmann. All
voted aye. Motion carried.
B. 94 -28 -P, Kevin McLevish, 6880 Rustic Lane, Subdivision
Ms. Wyland presented a brief staff report regarding a
request to split a 1.74 acre parcel of property into two
lots. She indicated the property is Zoned R -1,
Residential and indicated as urban residential in the
Comprehensive Plan. Utilities are available to serve
both sites and, in fact, services have been stubbed to
the property line off Glenview Drive. The applicant is
aware that assessments will be due and payable on the
newly created lot.
Ms. Wyland indicate staff would recommend approval of the
proposed subdivision with the following conditions:
1. Both properties be connected to City utilities.
2. A park dedication fee be collected on the newly
created lot at the time of deed recording.
3. Drainage and building plans be approved prior to
issuance of building permits on the new lot.
John Landers made a MOTION to recommend to the City
Council approval of application 94 -28 -P, Kevin McLevish,
6880 Rustic Lane subdivision with conditions outlined
above and was supported by Kathleen Nordine. All voted
aye. Motion carried.
C. Continuation Of Public Hearing: Clearwater Creek,
Otter Lake Road And Cedar Street, Rezoning And
Preliminary Plat
Chairman Schaps CONTINUED the public hearing at 6:50 p.m.
Planning Consultant Alan Brixius presented a brief staff
report reviewing the request for rezoning from Rural to
R -1 and preliminary plat for Clearwater Creek.
Mr. Brixius reminded the Board to be aware of the time
restraints of this application. He indicated this
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development is in keeping with the Comprehensive Plan for
Lino Lakes.
Acting City Engineer John Powell reviewed the proposed
utility improvements. He pointed out the critical mass
required to finance the project would be covered in the
first two phases of the development.
Mr. Powell indicated a traffic study had been done.
According to the study, after the completion of all
phases it is forecasted that approximately 4,500 trips
would be made on County Road 84 and that, according to
the Traffic Engineer, the roadway is adequately designed
to handle the additional traffic load.
Larry Olsen, consultant for Tony Emmerich Homes,
indicated the proposed phasing per staff request. He
indicated there would be an average of 60 -70 lots per
phase developed. He indicated the developer hope's to see
approximately 75 permits on an average year and they
would proceed to the next phase when approximately 60% of
the lots were sold in each phase.
Mr. Olsen indicated a change to the connecting street to
Otter Lake Road to alleviate sight distance issues and
the entrance to the development has been enlarged.
Mr. Olsen indicated there has been a reduction from 157
lots to 154 lots in the preliminary plat. He noted all
the lots are well within the lot size requirement, lots
range in size from 10,800 square feet to 27,000 square
feet. He pointed out if the property to the south is not
obtained the dead end street would be looped around to
the other street.
Mr. Brixius indicated staff recommend approval of
rezoning and preliminary plat.
The applicant, Mr. Tony Emmerich, indicated he had held
a neighborhood meeting approximately two weeks ago.
Mr. Gelbmann indicated concern for pedestrian traffic on
Otter Lake Road.
Mr. Emmerich noted the trails throughout the subdivision
and in phases five and six a trail corridor would be
provided.
Mr. Schones inquired if traffic studies reflect the
future phases. Mr. Powell indicated the study does
reflect all phases.
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Mr. Mesich inquired if the City is able to put limits on
the lots developed in each phase. Mr. Brixius indicated
the fact that each phase would be required to be 60%
developed would give the City some control.
Mr. Landers indicated concern regarding the dchools,
White Bear Lake District indicated new schools would be
recommended, but they have no plans of expanding and in
fact are currently cutting back.
Chairman Schaps opened the floor to comments from the
audience.
Tom Donlin, 6100 Otter Lake Road, inquired about the
sewer and water costs. Mr. Powell indicated the cost for
an improvement benefiting the entire City would be shared
by the entire City.
Mr. Jay Cain, 6584 Otter Lake Road, indicated continued
opposition to the development. He feels the traffic
increase could not be supported by Otter Lake Road. He
continues to feel this is an "island" development. He
indicated future phases of this development contain his
land and he has not sold it and has no intention of
selling. He feels this is an assumption on the part of
the developer and indicated the costs to develop this
parcel are extensive. Mr. Cain indicated the designated
park land is marshy and not appropriate for park land.
Mr. Powell indicated the costs for this project are very
similar to any other project, there is nothing
extraordinary to this development. He indicated the
traffic study was done by professionals and the traffic
projected was due to the development.
Mr. Emmerich wished to clarify the park land dedication.
Using the map, he noted only a portion of the land
labeled park is actual park, the wetlands are not
included in the park land dedication.
Mr. Art Hawkins, 6102 Centerville Road, indicated perhaps
the City was moving too fast in developing new areas and
should slow down.
Ms. Darla Lowell, 6559 24th Avenue, indicated support for
the development. She indicated they purchased their land
with the knowledge of a future roadway easement and the
knowledge future development could be possible. She
added that the Cain property also contains this roadway
easement and that Mr. Cane advertised his property for
development all summer. She stated that the homes
constructed in this development would provide good tax
base.
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Sherrie Eisele, 6509 24th Avenue, indicated this
development is very large and will consist of over 400
homes when completed. She indicated concern for the
impact this development would have on the school system.
Dennis Cunningham, 2310 Cedar Street, -,U. indicated
opposition to the development. He stated that 12 years
ago he and his wife were required to obtain signatures
from all residents within 300 feet of their property in
order to allow the boarding of horses. He indicated no
one has asked the surrounding neighbors for permission
for the development. He indicated poor road conditions
and overcrowded schools as additional reasons for
opposition.
Mr. Tom Schuette, representing the commercial property
owners at 35E and County Road 14, pointed out thAt this
property is zoned Gateway Commercial. He indicated
support for this development since it would - provide
utilities to the area. He noted that commercial
development will not be possible without the extension of
utilities.
Economic Development Director Wessel indicated that the
EDAAB passed a resolution at their meeting of November 3,
1994, supporting the proposed development.
Ms. Karen Cunningham, 2310 Cedar Street, indicated
opposition to the development. She expressed concerns for
the drainage onto her property, overcrowded schools, the
condition of Otter Lake Road and the density of the
development.
Mr. Mesich inquired if the drainage plan is part of the
preliminary plat application. Mr. Powell indicated that
a preliminary drainage plan had been submitted with the
preliminary plat information. Specific details, however,
are not available at this time.
Mike Cross - Schmitz, 6440 Otter Lake Road, indicated there
is a seasonal creek that would prevent a loop in Street
E. He indicated continued opposition to the development.
Mr. Mesich inquired who did the delineation of the
wetlands. Mr. Emmerich indicated the delineation had
been done by professionals.
Mr. Mesich inquired as to the amount of fill. Mr.
Emmerich indicated minimal fill would be done.
Maryanne Cross - Schmidt indicated concern for the traffic
on Otter Lake Road, she is also in opposition to the
development.
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Mr. Al Demotts, 6265 Holly, reminded the Board of the
construction of the new theater complex, which will add
to the traffic.
Ms. Amy Donlin, who serves on the Park Board, requested
the ability to address the Board as a resident., Chairman
Schaps allowed her to speak as a resident. Ms. Donlin
indicated opposition to the development. She indicated
numerous concerns: overcrowded schools, too many roof
tops, not a sufficient tax base and drainage.
Mr. Wessel responded that EDAAB would like to see
utilities extended into the commercial area. In order
for this to happen, a residential development, with the
proper critical mass, is needed in the area.
Mr. Cain indicated only high profile, executiv& homes
should be developed if the project went through.
Mr. Emmerich stated that the projected value of homes for
the area is $150,000 to $400,000. Mr. Olsen reviewed a
drawing which indicated that there are 21 lots (14 %)
between 10,800 & 11,000 sq. ft.; 36 lots (23 %) between
11,000 & 13,000 sq. ft.; 14% between 13,000 & 15,000 sq.
ft. and 49% are at or above 15,000 sq. ft. Additionally,
the square footage figures have been calculated above the
wetland. The larger lots sizes naturally dictate higher
value homes.
Mr. Schones questioned the park dedication which was
explained by Mr. Emmerich. Mr. Emmerich also advised the
Board that their total park dedication exceeds that
required by the ordinance by almost 10 %, for a total
dedication of near 20 %.
Al Robinson made a MOTION to CLOSE the public hearing and
was supported by John Landers. All voted aye. Motion
carried. The public hearing was closed at 8:49 p.m.
Tom Mesich made a MOTION to recommend denial of
application 94 -25 -P for rezoning of Clearwater Creek from
Rural to R -1 because the submittal falls short of the
criteria required in reviewing a rezoning in the area of
traffic and facilities. He was supported by John
Landers.
Chairman Schaps asked if staff would need specific
findings of fact and was advised by Mr. Brixius that they
would. He than asked Mr. Mesich to outline his reasons
for recommending denial.
Mr. Brixius outlined the criteria:
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1. Consistency with Comprehensive Plan:
Mr. Mesich replied yes
2. Compatible with present and future land uses:
Mr. Schones indicated that this was questionable,
in his opinion.
Mr. Mesich stated future land uses - yes -it may be
compatible, however, there are no other R -1 areas
near this proposed development.
3. Conforms with performance standards within the Zoning
Ordinance.
Mr. Mesich stated that he has concerns about the
wetland delineation which he feels will be
addressed by the City.
4. The proposed use can be accommodated by e *isting
public services and will not overburden the city service
capacity.
Mr. Mesich stated that the City capacity might not
be a problem unless the phasing was so great it put
a burden on the City Building Inspectors. There
is, however, a question about the school
facilities. The letter from WBL did not address
the question to my satisfaction.
5. Traffic generated by the proposed use is within the
capability of the streets serving the property.
Mr. Mesich stated that it sounds like Otter Lake
Road can not handle the traffic that would come out
of this development regarding the condition and
capacity of the roadway.
Mr. Gelbmann stated that he was concerned about
bicycle and pedestrian traffic and it has not been
addressed.
Mr. Schones felt the traffic study was done with
the complete project in mind and the flow through
the development, therefore, this individual phase
could pose problems with circulation.
Mr. Gelbmann stated that he asked at last meeting how
much traffic would be generated by the theater complex.
John Powell indicated the theater complex would involve
off -peak traffic and that it was taken into
consideration. Planning Coordinator Wyland indicated
that she had spoken with Mr. Glen VanWormer, SEH, who
prepared the traffic report and that he indicated traffic
from the theater complex would not significantly impact
this proposed development.
John Landers stated that there would be additional major
traffic turnover during holiday times.
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Mr. Schones stated that common sense dictates that we
move cautiously and wait. There has been a lot of
building, 20/20 Vision is in progress, and I think it is
prudent that we slow down.
Mesich, Landers, Gelbmann, and Schones voted iri favor.
Nordine, Robinson, and Schaps voted in apposition.
Motion carried.
John Landers made a MOTION recommending denial of
application for preliminary plat for Clearwater Creek and
was supported by Ed Schones. Landers, Mesich, Gelbmann
and Schones voted in favor. Nordine, Robinson and Schaps
voted in opposition. Motion carried.
A brief recess was taken at 9:06 p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 9:13 p.m.
VI. DISCUSSION:
A. Gary Uhde /Lino Air Park Discussion Item. Mr. Brixius
indicated at the last meeting a brief presentation was
given regarding the issue of the Lino Air Park. He
indicated one correction he would like the Board to note,
the lots sizes are not 1 acre, but average 30,000 square
feet, the average dimensions would be 120 feet x 260
feet.
Mr. Brixius indicated he would like to see a P.D.O. used
only to provide flexibility for the hangers, regarding
oversized buildings.
Mr. John Johnson, Engineer for Mr. Uhde, indicated the
changes that would be made to the lots, nine lots would
be designed from seven currently platted lots along the
Air Park run -way. He indicated the actual net increase
of lots for the entire area would be between 5 -10 lots.
He also indicated Thomas Avenue would not be extended.
Mr. Johnson requested guidance from the Board regarding
the preliminary plat and P.D.O.
Mr. Brixius indicated the process would consist of two
stages, 1) a revised plat and 2) P.D.O.
Discussion was held regarding the Board's concerns.
Chairman Schaps indicated a general feeling of the board
would be to approve the project, although there was
concern that the property was not currently in the MUSA.
B. Non - conforming Use Ordinance Revision, was tabled
until the next meeting.
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C. Two Principal Uses on one lot. Mr. Brixius requested
direction of the Board regarding the current ordinance.
He would like to revise the ordinance to limit one
principal use on a lot in all residential zones.
It was the consensus of the Board to direct staff to
draft an amendment regarding Principal Uses on a lot.
D. Conflict of Interest. Mr. Robinson said it had been
suggested by John Landers that he, Robinson, perhaps had
a conflict of interest, serving on the Planning and
Zoning Board. Mr. Robinson asked Mr. Landers what the
conflict would be. Mr. Landers indicated a reference to
the sale of sod to developers. Mr. Robinson stated he
believes any new development will benefit any number of
businesses in the community and he is one of the
businesses, he does not believe this is a confiict of
interest. Mr. Robinson added that Mr. Landers has not
had a positive vote for development while he has-been on
the Board and that he takes exception to him speaking out
about him as he has. If he has a problem with Mr.
Robinson he should deal with it face to face!
VII. ADJOURNMENT: Upon unanimous consent of the Board the
meeting was adjourned at 10:04 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth Mclaurin
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