HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/11/1992 P&Z Minutes• PLANNING AND ZONING MARCH 11, 1992
Chairperson Fred Chase called the March llth Planning and Zoning
Board meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
ITEM 1. Roll Call. Answering to Roll Call were Al Robinson, John
Bergeson, Fred Chase and Robert King. Monika Slatten arrived
later. Also present were Robert Kirmis from Northwest Associated
Consultants, Inc. (NAC); Darrell Schneider, City Engineer; and
support person Joyce Lund.
ITEM 2. Consideration of minutes of February 19, 1992. Robert
King moved to accept the minutes of February 19, 1992 as recorded.
Al Robinson seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
ITEM 3. Open Mike. There was no one in the audience to appear
under Open Mike.
ITEM 4. Rearranging the agenda. Chairperson Fred Chase
recommended rearranging the agenda so that ITEM 4 would be the
Shores of Marshan Lake, because this item was tabled at the
previous meeting, and ITEM 5 would become the Walberg /Macioch Minor
Subdivision. Robert King moved to rearrange the agenda, Al
Robinson seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
ITEM 5. Shores of Marshan Lake. Jack Menkveld addressed the
Board. Mr. Menkveld reviewed several issues that had been resolved
since he last appeared before this Board. The DNR has established
the high water mark on Marshan Lake, and the development has
received approval from RCWD and he has submitted a landscaping plan
showing a two rows of transplanted evergreen trees shielding houses
from the Church property and Lake Drive. Mr. Menkveld stated that
houses next to each other or houses across the street from each
other will not have a like building exterior. The model on Stage
Coach Lane and Lake Drive will have a high pitched roof with a
masonry front.
John Bergeson asked Mr. Menkveld if he intended to transplant all
of the trees that are on the property. Mr. Menkveld said the trees
are growing close together and he is not sure of the number that
would survive transplanting. Mr. Bergeson said if there was a
sufficient number of trees, possibly some of them could be placed
along Lot 15 and 16 shielding those lots from the park, with the
remainder used in the park. Mr. Menkveld said he would work with
the Park Board and utilize all of the trees that are now on the
property.
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Darrell Schneider referred to the Engineers report from TKDA and
the report from NAC. Mr. Schneider referred to Item #7 in the
Engineers report, saying the Church does not anticipate
continuation of Marshan Drive on the North and the street could
possibly end in a cul -de -sac.
Chairperson Fred Chase summarized the issues that still need
attention, Item #3 referring to the depth of the lots, Item #10 as
the Board still must see the landscaping plan, Item #12 referring
to the grading and drainage plan. Mr. Menkveld said he has
received the hydrologic report and will bring in the permit.
Darrell Schneider mentioned the cul -de -sac at the North end of
Marshan Drive and Mr. Menkveld said that would not be a problem to
terminate that street.
Robert Kirmis asked if the rezoning of the development was
appropriate. Fred Chase said the rezone issue had been sent to the
City Council. Mr. Kirmis then reviewed the consulting planner
report referring to issues as variances, terminations of Marshan
Drive, drainage and utility easements, supplemental cash park land,
and relocation of the trail. Mr. Chase asked that he add screening
from the Engineers report to the list.
Darrell Schneider said Anoka County would not recognize a trail
easement but would recognize it on the plat as a linear park.
Robert King asked if the trail dedication was the same as land
dedication, creating a need for signs, benches etc.
Fred Chase reviewed the issues of concern from the NAC report
adding the item of screening and the matter of platting the trail
saying these issues need City Planner or City Engineer approval
before approval of the final plat.
Al Robinson said that with the additional footage of the trail the
needed park dedication might be met. The Park Board will be made
aware of this situation.
John Bergeson made the motion to recommend to the City Council
approval of the preliminary plat of the Shores of Marshan Lake as
outlined to include such items as listed in the planners memo plus
issues as the North (permanent) /South (temporary) termination into
a cul -de -sacs of Marshan Drive, trails recorded as Anoka County
recommends as a linear park, and screening to be approved by City
Staff. Al Robinson seconded the motion and the motion carried
unanimously.
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John Bergeson made the motion to recommend to the City Council
approval of variances in Block 1 /Lots 2 -6, 8 -10, 16 -19, 20; Block
2 /Lots 2, 3, 6 -8; and Block 3 /Lots 2 -6 of the Shores of Marshan
Lake. Robert King seconded the motion and the motion carries
unanimously.
Al Robinson asked why Block 2 /Lot 5 was not listed for a variance
and considering square footage Block 1 /Lot 20 would not need a
variance either. Robert Kirmis explained how the measurements were
taken and made to determine the need for a variance.
ITEM 6. WALBERG /MACIOCH MINOR SUBDIVISION AND VARIANCE P & Z 92 -01
Mr. Walberg and Ms. Macioch have submitted a request to subdivide
a 45,000 square foot parcel (Block 1 /Lot 6) of land in Ulmer's Rice
Lake Addition into three separate lots. Two of these lots would
receive municipal sewer and water, the third would rely on a
private system. The variance is needed because two of the new lots
would have widths of only 75 feet.
Robert Kirmis reviewed the NAC report drawing special attention to
the seven conditions: new lots be hooked to utilities at the
expense of the developer, if the westerly lot can sustain private
sewage and if there should be septic failure it should be hooked up
to utilities, that utility and drainage easements be provided along
property lines, park dedication, grading and drainage plans and any
items to be considered that will be brought by the Engineer. Mr.
Kirmis questioned if the newly created lot to the west, at 24,000
square feet, was large enough to accommodate private sewage.
John Bergeson asked if park dedication was required. Fred Chase
said it has been required.
Darrell Schneider reviewed his comments on the Engineers report.
Mr. Schneiders concern was 1) the remnent parcel should have a 10
foot wide drainage and utility easement provided along the easterly
property line and a 5 foot wide drainage and utility easement
provided along the north and south property lines 2) that there
needs to be a commitment from the unsewered lots to hook up to
utilities and 3) a drainage plan should be included.
John Bergeson asked if the owner of the lot was aware of this
agreement, Darrell Schneider said he has had no contact with the
applicant. Monika Slatten asked if the owner was aware of his
responsibility as indicated in the reports. Darrell Schneider said
he has not seen the applicant since application was made, but each
applicant is sent the reports in the mail.
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John Bergeson made the motion to recommend approval of a minor
subdivision for Walberg /Macioch P & Z 92 -01 with conditions as
outlined in the Planners memo 1 - 6, plus regular the item from the
Engineers report regarding the agreement between City and owner and
the commitment for utilities. Al Robinson seconded the motion.
Fred Chase expressed concern about these minor subdivisions where
the land behind the property is divided and the larger lots do not
get sewered. With the Charter the City gives them something and
the property owners are a stumbling block and give the City no
help. As the lots are made smaller they should give something in
return. The motion passed unanimously.
Fred Chase said the applicant needs to come to City Hall and fill
out the application and pay the fee for a variance, but the Board
will act on the variance tonight.
Robert King made the motion to recommend to the City Council
approval of a variance to create two 75 foot lots to
Walberg /Macioch in accordance to the findings of fact that have
been made. Monika Slatten seconded the motion and the motion
passed unanimously.
ITEM 7. Old Business. There was no old business.
ITEM 8. New Business. John Bergeson expressed concern about
developers who apply for a rezone and have to go through a lot of
time and expense before it is approved. John Bergeson made the
motion to recommend to the City Council that when a rezone is
recommended to them from the P & Z the rezone be approved based on
the concept plan. Monika Slatten seconded the motion. This motion
does not apply to new items that have not come before the board
previously.
Monika Slatten formally said good -bye to the members of the Board
whose terms have expired.
Fred Chase said without the requirement the applicant keeps working
on his plan taking up time and money for work that may be for
naught. The motion passed unanimously.
Fred Chase said there are three board members leaving, two members
will remain and five new members have been appointed bringing the
total number on the Planning and Zoning board to seven. They will
begin their term at the April 8th meeting.
ITEM 9. Adjournment. Al Robinson made the motion to adjourn at
8:00 P.M. Robert King seconded the motion and the motion carried
unanimously.
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