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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/11/1992 P&Z Minutes• PLANNING AND ZONING MARCH 11, 1992 Chairperson Fred Chase called the March llth Planning and Zoning Board meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. ITEM 1. Roll Call. Answering to Roll Call were Al Robinson, John Bergeson, Fred Chase and Robert King. Monika Slatten arrived later. Also present were Robert Kirmis from Northwest Associated Consultants, Inc. (NAC); Darrell Schneider, City Engineer; and support person Joyce Lund. ITEM 2. Consideration of minutes of February 19, 1992. Robert King moved to accept the minutes of February 19, 1992 as recorded. Al Robinson seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously. ITEM 3. Open Mike. There was no one in the audience to appear under Open Mike. ITEM 4. Rearranging the agenda. Chairperson Fred Chase recommended rearranging the agenda so that ITEM 4 would be the Shores of Marshan Lake, because this item was tabled at the previous meeting, and ITEM 5 would become the Walberg /Macioch Minor Subdivision. Robert King moved to rearrange the agenda, Al Robinson seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously. ITEM 5. Shores of Marshan Lake. Jack Menkveld addressed the Board. Mr. Menkveld reviewed several issues that had been resolved since he last appeared before this Board. The DNR has established the high water mark on Marshan Lake, and the development has received approval from RCWD and he has submitted a landscaping plan showing a two rows of transplanted evergreen trees shielding houses from the Church property and Lake Drive. Mr. Menkveld stated that houses next to each other or houses across the street from each other will not have a like building exterior. The model on Stage Coach Lane and Lake Drive will have a high pitched roof with a masonry front. John Bergeson asked Mr. Menkveld if he intended to transplant all of the trees that are on the property. Mr. Menkveld said the trees are growing close together and he is not sure of the number that would survive transplanting. Mr. Bergeson said if there was a sufficient number of trees, possibly some of them could be placed along Lot 15 and 16 shielding those lots from the park, with the remainder used in the park. Mr. Menkveld said he would work with the Park Board and utilize all of the trees that are now on the property. 2 • PLANNING AND ZONING MARCH 11, 1992 t Darrell Schneider referred to the Engineers report from TKDA and the report from NAC. Mr. Schneider referred to Item #7 in the Engineers report, saying the Church does not anticipate continuation of Marshan Drive on the North and the street could possibly end in a cul -de -sac. Chairperson Fred Chase summarized the issues that still need attention, Item #3 referring to the depth of the lots, Item #10 as the Board still must see the landscaping plan, Item #12 referring to the grading and drainage plan. Mr. Menkveld said he has received the hydrologic report and will bring in the permit. Darrell Schneider mentioned the cul -de -sac at the North end of Marshan Drive and Mr. Menkveld said that would not be a problem to terminate that street. Robert Kirmis asked if the rezoning of the development was appropriate. Fred Chase said the rezone issue had been sent to the City Council. Mr. Kirmis then reviewed the consulting planner report referring to issues as variances, terminations of Marshan Drive, drainage and utility easements, supplemental cash park land, and relocation of the trail. Mr. Chase asked that he add screening from the Engineers report to the list. Darrell Schneider said Anoka County would not recognize a trail easement but would recognize it on the plat as a linear park. Robert King asked if the trail dedication was the same as land dedication, creating a need for signs, benches etc. Fred Chase reviewed the issues of concern from the NAC report adding the item of screening and the matter of platting the trail saying these issues need City Planner or City Engineer approval before approval of the final plat. Al Robinson said that with the additional footage of the trail the needed park dedication might be met. The Park Board will be made aware of this situation. John Bergeson made the motion to recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat of the Shores of Marshan Lake as outlined to include such items as listed in the planners memo plus issues as the North (permanent) /South (temporary) termination into a cul -de -sacs of Marshan Drive, trails recorded as Anoka County recommends as a linear park, and screening to be approved by City Staff. Al Robinson seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously. 3 • PLANNING AND ZONING MARCH 11, 1992 t • John Bergeson made the motion to recommend to the City Council approval of variances in Block 1 /Lots 2 -6, 8 -10, 16 -19, 20; Block 2 /Lots 2, 3, 6 -8; and Block 3 /Lots 2 -6 of the Shores of Marshan Lake. Robert King seconded the motion and the motion carries unanimously. Al Robinson asked why Block 2 /Lot 5 was not listed for a variance and considering square footage Block 1 /Lot 20 would not need a variance either. Robert Kirmis explained how the measurements were taken and made to determine the need for a variance. ITEM 6. WALBERG /MACIOCH MINOR SUBDIVISION AND VARIANCE P & Z 92 -01 Mr. Walberg and Ms. Macioch have submitted a request to subdivide a 45,000 square foot parcel (Block 1 /Lot 6) of land in Ulmer's Rice Lake Addition into three separate lots. Two of these lots would receive municipal sewer and water, the third would rely on a private system. The variance is needed because two of the new lots would have widths of only 75 feet. Robert Kirmis reviewed the NAC report drawing special attention to the seven conditions: new lots be hooked to utilities at the expense of the developer, if the westerly lot can sustain private sewage and if there should be septic failure it should be hooked up to utilities, that utility and drainage easements be provided along property lines, park dedication, grading and drainage plans and any items to be considered that will be brought by the Engineer. Mr. Kirmis questioned if the newly created lot to the west, at 24,000 square feet, was large enough to accommodate private sewage. John Bergeson asked if park dedication was required. Fred Chase said it has been required. Darrell Schneider reviewed his comments on the Engineers report. Mr. Schneiders concern was 1) the remnent parcel should have a 10 foot wide drainage and utility easement provided along the easterly property line and a 5 foot wide drainage and utility easement provided along the north and south property lines 2) that there needs to be a commitment from the unsewered lots to hook up to utilities and 3) a drainage plan should be included. John Bergeson asked if the owner of the lot was aware of this agreement, Darrell Schneider said he has had no contact with the applicant. Monika Slatten asked if the owner was aware of his responsibility as indicated in the reports. Darrell Schneider said he has not seen the applicant since application was made, but each applicant is sent the reports in the mail. 4 • PLANNING AND ZONING MARCH 11, 1992 • John Bergeson made the motion to recommend approval of a minor subdivision for Walberg /Macioch P & Z 92 -01 with conditions as outlined in the Planners memo 1 - 6, plus regular the item from the Engineers report regarding the agreement between City and owner and the commitment for utilities. Al Robinson seconded the motion. Fred Chase expressed concern about these minor subdivisions where the land behind the property is divided and the larger lots do not get sewered. With the Charter the City gives them something and the property owners are a stumbling block and give the City no help. As the lots are made smaller they should give something in return. The motion passed unanimously. Fred Chase said the applicant needs to come to City Hall and fill out the application and pay the fee for a variance, but the Board will act on the variance tonight. Robert King made the motion to recommend to the City Council approval of a variance to create two 75 foot lots to Walberg /Macioch in accordance to the findings of fact that have been made. Monika Slatten seconded the motion and the motion passed unanimously. ITEM 7. Old Business. There was no old business. ITEM 8. New Business. John Bergeson expressed concern about developers who apply for a rezone and have to go through a lot of time and expense before it is approved. John Bergeson made the motion to recommend to the City Council that when a rezone is recommended to them from the P & Z the rezone be approved based on the concept plan. Monika Slatten seconded the motion. This motion does not apply to new items that have not come before the board previously. Monika Slatten formally said good -bye to the members of the Board whose terms have expired. Fred Chase said without the requirement the applicant keeps working on his plan taking up time and money for work that may be for naught. The motion passed unanimously. Fred Chase said there are three board members leaving, two members will remain and five new members have been appointed bringing the total number on the Planning and Zoning board to seven. They will begin their term at the April 8th meeting. ITEM 9. Adjournment. Al Robinson made the motion to adjourn at 8:00 P.M. Robert King seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously. 5