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PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MEETING
March 8, 1989
Chairman Charles Prokop called the regular meeting of the
Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board to order at 7:07 p.m.,
Wednesday, March 8, 1989. Members present were: New members
Sally Kuether, Alan Robinson, Alan Irwin, Charles Prokop,
Fred Chase, Gordon Girtz. Also present were: Councilmember
Harold Bisel, City Planner, John Miller; City Engineer, Ron
Stahlberg; and Planning Secretary, Laura Elken.
Members absent: Elmer Crohn.
Chairman Prokop welcomed new members Sally Kuether and Al
Robinson to the Planning and Zoning Board.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
Boardmember Irwin stated that the quality of the minutes have
improved imensly over the past few months, with very few,
minor errors. But... on page 4, 4th paragraph from the
bottom, the year 1989 should be changed to 1988.
Secretary's note: Thanks!
Alan Irwin moved to approve the minutes of February 8, 1989
as corrected. Fred Chase seconded the motion, and the motion
was approved unanimously.
7:15 p.m. REQUEST FROM VERN & MARILYN ANDERSON TO GRANT A
STREET EASEMENT FOR ASPEN LANE EXTENDED
The Andersons want to start the subdivision process on the
small parcel of land they own adjacent to D. Erickson's
Subdivision. However, before they start that work, their
lender is asking that access to the property be guaranteed.
The Andersons have visited with their neighbors (Mr. & Mrs.
Miers) and have obtained an easement that will serve as the
site of Aspen Lane Extended.
Mr. & Mrs. Anderson are asking the city to accept the
easement from the Miers. If the board accepts, the bank will
be satisfied on the access question.
Marilyn Anderson stated that they are planning to prepare a
small plat for Council approval. The bank determined that
the Andersons do not have access to their property without
Mr. & Mrs. Miers granting the city a thirty foot easement
over a portion of their southern boundary. The Miers are
willing to grant the easement to the city since they plan to
do some platting in the near future also. The Andersons are
only asking for a 200 foot easement at this time. All other
easements will be dedicated with the plats.
Charles Prokop suggested that a street plan would later be
discussed under NEW BUSINESS.
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After further discussion, a motion was made.
MOTION: Fred Chase moved to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request to grant a street easement for Aspen
Lane Extended. Sally Kuether seconded the motion, and the
motion was approved unanimously.
7:16 p.m. REQUEST FOR A SETBACK VARIANCE IN SUNRISE MEADOWS
FROM THE CITY OF LINO LAKES. APPLICATION *89 -10
In the summer of 1988, the city council approved a final plat
for Jack Menkveld's Sunrise Meadows Subdivision. The
development will provide 103 single- family and sewer -
available lots.
The city council has approved a trunk sewer location that
will follow the north -south Antelope Drive. However, to get
the trunk line to the catholic church land immediately north
of Sunrise Meadows, utility easements 50 feet wide must be
obtained from Menkveld. The easement would be located
between lots 6 and 7 of Block 1 of Sunrise Meadows with 25
feet on each lot.
Sunrise Meadows is in the R -1 Single- Family Residential
Zoning District. Required front yard setbacks are 30 feet
and sideyard setbacks are ten feet on the house side and five
feet on the garage side.
The Lino Lakes Zoning Ordinance and Minnesota law require
that six findings of fact be made before a variance is
granted. They are:
1. That the property in question can not be put to a
reasonable use if used under conditions allowed by
the official controls.
2. That the plight of the landowner is due to
circumstances unique to his property not created by
the land owner.
3. That the hardship is not due to economic
considerations along and when a reasonable use for
the property exists under the terms of the
ordinance.
4. That granting the variance requested will not
confer on the applicant any special privilege that
would be denied by this ordinance to other lands,
structures, or buildings in the same district.
5. That the proposed actions will not unreasonably
diminish or impair established property values
within the neighborhood.
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6. That the proposed actions will be in keeping with
the spirit and intent of the ordinance.
John Miller stated that the board has 2 options for
discussion.
1. Grant an easement variance allowing the home to be
located back more than the minimum front yard
setback.
2. Make an interpetation that the individual has the
right to build his home farther back, as long as
all setback requirements have been met.
Sally Kuether asked if the utility easement could be placed
elsewhere to allow the home to be placed closer to the front
of the lot.
Ron Stahlberg, the City Engineer, explained that in designing
the route in which utilities will run, they try to take the
shortest route possible for economic reasons. Mr. Menkveld
has agreed to this. There will be additional easements in
other lots as time goes on.
Charles Prokop recommended issuing a variance.
There was considerable discussion and varied opinions on if a
variance was needed or not.
MOTION: Gordon Girtz moved to recommend to City Council to
accept the variance setback, as it meets the 6 findings of
fact, pushing the home back to the 50' line. Motion died
from lack of a second.
Mr. Irwin felt that a variance is not required. He stated if
we issue a variance, we would have to issue a variance for
every home that did met the setback, but wanted to build
still a little farther back. He stated that a variance is a
privilege to do something that is not allowed in the city
code book.
Mr. Chase agreed with Irwin. All the city code states is
that the property owner is required to build his home at
least 30' from the front yard setback, and if he wants to
build further back, then that should be fine as long as he
meets the front yard setback, and the side yard setback.
Sally Kuether stated that the house will have to be built to
fit this unique situation. She was concerned about the fact
that the home would possibly look out of place set back
further than the others.
MOTION: Mr. Irwin moved to recommend that City Council put
into writing the current policy, stating that on residential
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lots no variance is required to increase any setback to more
than the minimum set by the zoning ordinance. Fred Chase
seconded the motion.
Mr. Chase withdrew his second, and motion dies from lack of a
second.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to recommend to City Council that
this lot is a buildable lot, and that a variance is not
required. Al Robinson seconded the motion, and the motion
carries with all members in favor with the exception of Mr.
Girtz voting no.
Ron Stahlberg asked if this meant that the city building
inspector could now issue building permits. The answer was
yes.
John Miller stated that this is a unique situation, the
chances of this happening again are very remote, and he did
feel comfortable with the decision of the board.
8:00 p.m. REVIEW OF CITY OF LINO LAKES PREPARED CONCEPT PLAN
FOR THE EBENSTEINER /STRAUSS PROPERTIES IN SOUTHWEST LINO
LAKES AND THE TILSON PROPERTY IN WEST LINO LAKES
Ron Stahlberg, the Lino Lakes City Engineer, has been working
at establishing the exact location of the West Central Trunk
Sewer. Construction of that sewer line will start after May
1st, but probably before June 1st.
One of the problems Stahlberg had to resolve was determining
a sewer location so that the sewer easements wouldn't be a
detriment to the future development. The sewer will be
located in several properties that are currently vacant, but
whose owners have petitioned for the improvements.
In a series of meetings with these landowners, the city
engineer was able to determine sewer locations and to develop
concept plans for the properties.
Ebensteiner Property: Located immediately north of Block
10 of the Park Lake View Subdivision. This property
would be divided into approximately 15 R -1 lots. There
is a linear street pattern, but lots on the west side of
the proposed street would be adjacent to the city park.
Strauss Property: A high, wooded area, this ten acre
parcel could be divided into 28 R -1 lots. This street
pattern is rectilinear, but the amenities are such that
the development should be very pleasant. Anytime a
developer can get 2 -8 houses per acre he or she is
guaranteed a very profitable subdivision.
Tilson Property: Actually, this should be titled "Tilson
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Properties ", as there are three separate parcels. The
parcel south of I -35W is currently zoned R -1 and the
concept plan divides the 13 acres into 28 single - family
lots. However, Tilson is presently working with Dennis
Erickson on a townhouse proposal for the land. This
would require rezoning to a PUD or R -3 zoning district.
Erickson has an architect working on a site plan and at
least a concept plan should be available at your April
meeting.
The second R -1 parcel is located south of the Marvy
Street neighborhood and north of I -35W. It shows a
curvilinear street pattern with almost 60 single - family
lots. It's my understanding that several of the large -
lot owners on Marvy Street also wish to subdivide their
lots.
The light industrial parcel is located south of the
reformatory and north of I -35W. The concept plan shows
15 single - family homes located on the west side of the
parcel and facing the Marvy Street neighbors, this is
done to placate those single - family homeowners. The
industrial lots are relatively small with many of them
being about an acre. The street pattern has been
determined in a manner that minimizes new road
construction, but gives double - frontage lots adjacent to
the freeway.
The board, in reviewing this, decided the properties should
be discussed and motions made for each property individually.
Ebsteiner Property
MOTION: Gordon Girtz moved to recommend to City Council
acceptance of the plans of the Ebsteiner property. Al
Robinson seconded the motion, and the motion was approved
unanimously.
Strauss Property
MOTION: Gordon Girtz moved to recommend to City Council
approval of the concept plan for the Strauss Property. Mr.
Irwin seconded the motion, and the motion was approved
unanimously.
Tilson Property - Light Industrial Property
Ron Stahlberg stated that there are some nice pine trees on
this parcel, in negotiations with Tilson, the easement would
do a minimum amount of damage to the pine trees.
John Miller stated that the industrial lots are only about 1
acre in size here. John was not sure of the market
desirability of the 1 acre lots - He requested to increase
the size of these lots. He felt the depth of 250' was good
enough, but feels they could be widened and appeal to larger
businesses. The land does have freeway visibility, and is
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very desirable.
Charles Prokop thought the Economic Development Committee
might like to comment on this also, and suggested tabling
this until it can go before the EDC.
MOTION: Fred Chase moved to table the Light Industrial ,
the triangular piece bounded by 74th, John, and interstate
35W until the EDC can review it, and make a recommendation
upon lot sizes, review sewer location, and residential
buffer. Sally Kuether seconded the motion, motion carried
with Girtz voting no.
Discussion continued with the residential lots south of
Marvey street, and north of I -35W. Ron Stahlberg met with 5
or 6 property owners and most of them can subdivide. 2
service lines will go into each of these lots. It is not
platted yet.
Mr. Irwin felt this was the area that the board considered
rezoning. He sees some concern with the industrial traffic
being a problem with the residents.
Charles Prokop discussed a buffer on the residential side to
help with the problem.
Harold Bisel stated that the residents there do want a
buffer.
MOTION: Mr. Irwin moved to recommend to City Council
approval of the concept plan of the R -1 area northwest of 35W
and East of Sunset Road with the consideration of rerouting
the sewer along the south line of lot #9 and northerly
towards lots 8 & 9, as shown on the submitted drawing. Mr.
Chase seconded the motion, motion approved with Girtz
opposing.
Ben Benson stated that this is just a concept plan, and may
look different once the final plat is approved.
Discussion continued regarding the parcel south of 35W.
Tilson is interested in selling this property for townhouse
construction. There are now 2 individuals interested in that
land. John Miller recommends not approving the concept plan
at this time, but yes to approving the sewer plan. Most of
the trees in this parcel will be saved.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved recommend to city council to approve
the concept plan for sewer line location through the Tilson
parcel south of I -35W. Girtz seconded the motion, and the
motion was approved unanimously.
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MEETING
March 8, 1989
8:45 p.m. REVIEW OF COMPREHENSIVE SEWER PLAN REVISIONS
City Engineer, Ron Stahlberg updated the old comprehensive
sewer plan. and presented it to the board.
Ron Stahlberg felt that the key to this plan is getting Metro
Council to update their sewer plan.
The septic failures in the city were given to TKDA, and Ron
noted that on the map.
Mr. Stahlberg suggests the board adopt this plan amendment,
and then it will be given to Metro Council for their
approval.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to recommend to city council
approval of the boundary changes in the comprehensive sewer
plan. Girtz seconded the motion, and the motion was approved
unanimously.
9:02 p.m. DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED METROPOLITAN URBAN SERVICES
AREA BOUNDARY CHANGES /JOHN MILLER
John Miller stated that Lino Lakes is able to extend
utilities only to certain sections of the city. There sewer -
available areas are all within what the Metropolitan Council
and the Metropolitan Waste Control Commission refer to as the
"Metropolitan Urban Services Area" better known by its
acronym as MUSA.
Mr. Miller went on to say that this problem or limitation is
compounded by the Lino Lakes City Charter which, in a
nutshell, in Section 8 states "If you don't want sewer, you
don't have to pay for it ". The result is that any sewer
extension project requires almost 100 per cent support from
adjacent property owners. This in itself makes it very
difficult to extend utilities, but when other provisions of
the charter are taken into account, (such as the lengthy time
requirement after the public hearing before city council
action), the charter makes sewer extension extremely
difficult.
Listed below are five other current conditions in Lino Lakes:
1. The city is fast depleting its inventory of
sewered, single - family lots. If an individual
wants one of these lots today, he can go to only
about three different developers. This is not much
of a choice.
2. There are several landowners adjacent or near the
present MUSA boundary that are either in the
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process of platting their land now (Elmer Crohn) or
who would like to start (Ed Vaughn).
3. There are landowners within the MUSA who have
indicated they are not interested in city utilities
at this time, yet they are using part of the city's
MUSA allocation.
4. I'm aware of only a very small number of people who
still advocate development of 2 1/2 or ten acre
lots. Almost everyone who has considered the
consequences of these large lots has decided they
poorly serve the interest of both the landowners
and the city.
5. Residential development in the form of new
subdivisions in the Birch Street area is presently
nil. There is no additional capacity remaining in
the eight inch Birch Street force -main.
There are three non -MUSA areas where individuals have
indicated they would like utilities extended.
1. East on Birch Street in the ED Vaughn area.
2. South of Cedar Street and east of I -35E in the
Miller, Polmen, McCollar area.
3. North of Main Street in the Crohn, Scharpen, Lino
Lakes Elementary School area.
The Planner stressed that there should be some words of
caution also. Just because someone states he or she wants to
be in the MUSA boundary and wants city utilities, there is no
reason to act like crazy people and rush to change
boundaries. Financial guarantees should be made prior to
city action.
Mr. Miller plans on holding several meetings to try and
extend sewer to some of these areas.
after some discussion with the board a motion was made.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to direct city staff to start
talking to people within the city, and try to extend our MUSA
boundaries, and report back to city officials. Mr. Irwin
seconded the motion, and the motion was approved unanimously.
Harold Bisel stated that we should talk with the other boards
and approach the Metro Council with a revision.
OLD BUSINESS
Charles Prokop wants to set up an informational meeting
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sometime early April, offering training and background,
breakfast and a tour. John Miller stated he did tour the
city with Mr. Girtz and Mr. Chase and hopes to meet with
Sally Kuether and Al Robinson in the near future.
MOTION: Charles Prokop directed John Miller to set up a
training program for April 8th at 8:30 a.m.
NEW BUSINESS
MIER, ANDERSON EASEMENT, STREET PLAN
MOTION: Sally Kuether moved to recommend to city council
that this area, west of Dennis Ericksons Subdivision be
looked at for street mapping, so the P &Z board will know
where the streets will be positioned. Chase seconded the
motion, and the motion was approved unanimously.
9:38 p.m. Charles Prokop is concerned that we no longer have
any vacant buildable land zoned R -7. He feels this may be an
area to be discussed by the board.
Harold Bisel stated that staff had reviewed this and
discovered that there are many homes of this type in Lino
Lakes. Rice Lake Estates was zoned R -7 and homes were hard
to sell.
Mr. Miller feels we have no need for an R -7 zone. He will
check to see if we are required to have an R -7 zone, if we do
not, then he feels we should take this zone off the books.
R -7 is a zone for manufactured homes.
John Miller had previously visited with Mr. Irwin regarding
Parking lots in city parks. At the February Park Board
Meeting Sunrise Park was approved with a class five surfaced
parking area. After discussion, it was agreed that this is
contrary to city ordinance's and Mr. Miller will inform the
park board of this.
ADJOURNMENT
Gordon Girtz moved to adjourn the meeting. Irwin seconded
the motion. Meeting adjourned at 9:50 p.m.