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• PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING
June 14, 1989
Chairman Charles Prokop called the regular meeting of the
Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board to order at 7:00 p.m.,
Wednesday, June 14, 1989 at the Lino Lakes City Hall.
Members present were Chairman Charles Prokop, Boardmembers
Alan Irwin, Fred Chase, Robert King, and Al Robinson.
Members absent were: Sally Kuether. Also present was City
Engineer, Ron Stahlberg; Councilmember, Harold Bisel;
Building Official, Pete Kluegel; and Planning Secretary,
Laura Elken.
Elmer Crohn resigned from the board. He felt there was
conflict since he is planning his subdivision.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
Mr. Irwin corrected the minutes as follows:
Pg. 5, 1st paragraph. Instead of "we have to show ", should be
"the applicant has to show ".
Pg. 8, Paragraph 1 should read: At the east end of the plat
the 33' roadway be widened to 40' so that it would line up
with Second Avenue to the South and along the east end of
Block 2, Second Avenue be 40' wide opposite the southeast
corner of Block 2 and taper to 50' wide opposite the
northeast corner of Block 2.
Pg. 8, Paragraph 3 should read: Glenview Drive lying east of
the western edge of Lot 13 be vacated because it is
unbuildable.
Pg. 9, llth paragraph. Instead of "city ordinance ", it
should read "city policy ".
MOTION: Mr. Irwin moved to approve the minutes of the May
10th meeting as corrected. Mr. King seconded the motion, and
the motion was approved unanimously.
OPEN MIKE
John Bauman - 8340 4th Avenue regarding accessory building
sizes for lots less than one acre.
John Bauman presented the board with his request to build a
shed 12 feet by 20 feet.
His property is 43,264 sq. ft. According to City Ordinance,
43,560 sq. ft. is required in order to build a shed of this
size. He is 396 sq. ft. short.
John Bauman stated that he has no basement or attic, and he
needs more space.
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The board stated that Mr. Bauman has to show hardship in
order for a variance to be granted.
John Bauman will approach the board next month with his
variance request.
GERRY LETOURNEAU REGARDING FURTHER SUBDIVISION OF A LEGALLY
NON - CONFORMING LOT ON OTTER LAKE ROAD.
Gerry LeTourneau and her brother and sisters wish to sell
land owned by their parents. Their request is to subdivide a
parcel leaving a 40 foot strip of lakeshore property, and the
applicant is asking that this property remain a park.
They would like this piece of property to remain in the
Hanson family, and not be sold with the remaining property.
The board stated their attorney should contact the city
attorney. In essence the applicant is asking for an
undersized lot and a variance would be necessary.
Harold Bisel suggested the applicant meet with John Miller,
City Planner and present this issue to the P &Z Board in July.
REVIEW OF PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR RESHANAU PARK ESTATES,
ROBERTSON CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, APPLICATION #89 -15.
Gary Uhde from G.M. Development, Greg Kopiski from Westwood
Engineering, and David Robertson, owner of this property were
present to address this issue.
Gary Uhde and D & D Construction wish to subdivide
approximately 25 acres of land on the north shore of Reshanau
Lake. This area will have city sewer and water extended from
Black Duck Drive. The land is high, and areas of mature
trees are found on the property.
The land is zoned R -1X, Single Family Executive. All lots
meet city requirements. The minimum lot size is 20,000
square feet.
John Miller stated in his memorandum of June 2nd to the P &Z
board that there is a lot going for this subdivision. Mr.
Miller stated that this land is probably the best remaining
residential site in the city. The amenities are super.
The proposed plat shows a general location for the utility
and trail easement extending north of Black Duck Drive. This
easement will permit the extension of utilities to West
Shadow Lake Drive and will allow foot and bicycle traffic
access to the golf course. A hard surface will allow
maintenance of the utilities and emergency vehicle passage.
The exact locations of the easement will be determined
shortly when field verification takes place.
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Greg Kopiski addressed City Engineer's, Ron Stahlberg's
comments. #7 states: Lot 1, Block 1 does not meet current
design standards for R -1X Zoning, however it is adjacent to
existing Lot 1 of Lakes Addition No. 3 on Crystal Court,
which has previously been reviewed and accepted by the Lino
Lakes City Council.
Mr. Kopiski stated that this lot meets the standards of a R -1
zoning, the lot right below Lot 1 Block 1 is R -1 and the
board felt that this would be allowable.
#8 of Mr. Stahlberg's letter states: Lot 20, Block 2 does
not meet current design standards after the area shown as a
drainage easement is subtracted from the total lot area.
The board felt that the applicant has increased storm water
storage in this area, and the applicant will allow special
considerations in the design of the home on this lot. The
board felt that this was also allowable.
Discussion turned to the fact that this is a long cul -de -sac,
and there are no plans for another access from the north into
this development. The board decided to go ahead with
approval of the plat, and address the issue of an additional
entrance at a later date.
After considerable discussion a motion was made.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to recommend to City Council
approval of Reshanau Park Estates, Application #89 -15 to
include TKDA's comments listed below with exception of #7
because there is a hardship with this lot, and #8 because the
lot does allow enough area above the high water mark. This
plat is pending park board review, and #10 of TKDA's letter
should be addressed at the park board.
TKDA comments are as follows:
1. The existing parcels known as Outlot A and Outlot B
from Lakes Addition No. 3 should be labeled as such
underneath the proposed Lots 1 -3 of Block 1 and
Lots 1 and 2 of Block 2.
2. The existing homes on Blackduck Drive, within 100'
of the proposed plat, should be shown.
3. The right -of -way width for Black Duck Drive should
be delineated. The minimum right -of -way width for
a local street is 60 feet. The cul -de -sac radius
should also be delineated (60 feet).
4. The drainage and utility easement between Lots 7
and 8, Block 1 should be shown as 20 feet. This
easement will allow for construction and
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maintenance of the proposed storm sewer to be
constructed at this location.
5. A typical cross - section of the street improvement
should be given on the preliminary plat.
6. The proposed cul -de -sac length exceeds the required
maximum of 500 feet.
7. Lot 1, Block 1 does not meet current design
standards for R -1X Zoning, however it is adjacent
to existing Lot 1 of Lakes Addition No. 3 on
Crystal Court which has previously been reviewed
and accepted by the Lino Lakes City Council.
8. Lot 20, Block 1 does not meet current design
standards after the area shown as a drainage
easement is subtracted from the total lot area.
9. The lot width and the corner lot width for R -1
zoning are listed on the Plat Development Data as
75' and 95'; the current requirements for R -1
zoning are 80' and 105' respectively. The 75' and
95' dimensions meet the requirements of the old
ordinance.
10. The utility and trail easement going through Outlot
A should be widened to 60 feet to allow for
construction of watermain and sanitary sewer
forcemain and future street.
The Planning and Zoning Board recognizes that Lots 1, 2, and
3 of Block 1 will be included in the R -1 Zoning District, and
Lots 1, and 2, of Block 2 will be included in the R -1X Zoning
District.
Mr. King seconded the motion, and the motion was approved
unanimously.
Note: Rezoning of the above mentioned lots will be an agenda
item in July.
8:19 p.m. CONSIDERATION OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR JUSTIN HOME
BUILDERS TO CONSTRUCT TOWN HOUSES NEAR ELM STREET AND I -35W,
APPLICATION #89 -14.
At the Planning and Zoning meeting in April the board
reviewed the Concept Plan and recommendations were made to
rezone the land to R -3 multiple family and to R -5 Planned
Unit Development. The city council will hold the public
hearing on the rezoning at its June 12th meeting.
City Engineer, Ron Stahlberg met with Steve Thatcher,
Engineer for Merilla & Associates on June 13th. The utility
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plan was revised. Utility service originally entered into
each unit, now the updated changes show utility lines
entering only once into a building.
A Speed bump was added, and Pete Kluegel spoke with Chief
Campbell, and Public Works Director, Don Volk, and they both
stated that they had no problems with the plat.
8:58 p.m. Charles Prokop removed himself from the board. Mr.
Irwin replaced him as Chairman.
A homeowners agreement has been written up that will specify
grounds keeping, garbage collection, etc.
A tot lot is planned with non - movable playground equipment.
Berms will be planted along Elm Street to shelter the
children from the street.
Park dedication has been met. The Park Board is receiving
$400.00 cash dedication per unit.
John Millers recommended action from his memorancum to the
board is as follows:
Recommended Action: My recommendation is to approve the
Development Plan for Justin Homes Willow Ponds Addition,
Application #89 -13, with these conditions: (Please note you
may want to add or delete from this list. The city attorney
will draft a P.U.D. agreement based on the conditions for the
city council to consider).
1. That construction and development of the Willow
Ponds Townhome Development be completed as shown in
plans and specifications submitted to the city with
May 30, 1989 revisions and including sheets A -1
through A -12 of Planning and Design's commission
number 8904.
2. Cobrahead lights and 28 foot wood poles be replaced
with Sterner square -box down lights on bronze,
fourteen foot masts. (This will be similar to the
lights in the city hall parking lot.)
3. The trail be increased from a five foot wide
surface to eight feet and that it be located on the
utility easement on the east side of the property
and extend to the ponds on the north side of Willow
Pond Circle, and then circle the ponds, as shown on
the landscape plan. (Those sections adjacent to
Willow Circle be constructed as a five foot wide
concrete sidewalk.
4. The building exteriors be covered with Alcoa
Aluminum in any of the following colors: Charcoal
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Grey, Heritage Grey, and Colonial Blue. Fascia and
soffit be Alcoa in compatible colors.
5. Roofing material be GAF Timberline 30 year warranty
or approved equal, colors as shown on renderings
submitted to the city.
6. Landscaping be increased with the planting of 70
black hills spruce trees (5 foot b and b) to be
planted on berm areas adjacent to Elm Street.
7. All green and landscaped areas be served with
underground irrigation system.
8. Construction of a tot -lot be completed with
climbing and other low -risk, low - liability
equipment.
9. Project not be phased.
10. Separate utility hook -ups be required for each
resident.
11. Household trash be stored in garages.
12. City approval of rezoning to R -5 Planned Unit
Development, and of a final plat for the property.
After considerable discussion a motion was made.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to recommend to City Council
approval of the Development Plan for Willow Ponds,
Application #14, including the conditions as outlined by Mr.
Miller, with the exception of #10 being stricken. Approval
is considered based on Mr. Stahlberg's recommendations as of
the June 13th meeting with Merilla & Associates. Approval is
contingent upon additions of these items:
Homeowners Agreement be submitted with final development
plan Council review and approval.
Setback on Elm Street be 40' as required by the City
for Collector Streets.
Mr. Robinson seconded the motion, and the motion was approved
unanimously.
9:30 p.m. CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WILLOW
PONDS, APPLICATION #89 -13.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to recommend to City Council
approval of the Preliminary Plat for Willow Ponds,
Application #89 -13, with the same conditions as the above
motion for the Development Plan. Mr. King seconded the
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motion, and the motion was approved unanimously.
9:35 p.m. a 5 minute recess was called.
9:40 p.m. REVIEW OF SITE AND BUILDING PLAN FOR UNITED
METHODIST CHURCH FOR LAND LOCATED ON LAKE DRIVE. APPLICATION
#89 -27.
The Methodist Church has sold its 15 acre site near the
diamond interchange at Lake Drive and I -35W. As a result the
church members have been looking for a new location for their
church building for the last few months. The applicant
wishes to build the church on ten acres of land currently
owned by Edith Morse. The site is on the east side of Lake
Drive about a half mile south of the church's present
building.
The new building will be wood frame with a natural wood
exterior. Current plans are to stain the wood a brown
earthtone. There will be some area of brick facade near the
entrance. The structure will cover an area of 11,840 square
feet.
The building is 250 feet from the right -of way. The church's
architect, Rick Keillor, states the reasons below for this.
1. It will allow future expansion to the west.
2. The building is at the crest of the hill and
provides better drainage.
3. The location provides a better view of the lake.
Mr. Miller stated his professional opinion and recommendation
in a memorandum to the board. It reads as follows:
Professional Opinion: The site overlooks Marshan Lake and the
Chain -of -Lakes regional park. The site is high and the
Zimmerman fine sand is excellent material for urban uses.
Using ten acres of this land for a single church site is not
wise land usage. Too much accessible, buildable land with
high amenities is used for a single building.
I've visited with some people involved in this project and
they have stated that use of the eastern portion of the
property for residential uses is possible.
A 250 foot setback from the road is not necessary and good
stewardship of the land would dictate moving the church and
the parking lot closer to the road. For example if the
church had a 125 foot setback instead of 250 feet, about an
acre of land would be preserved. I think this should be
done.
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Other issues with the site plan include:
1. Signage - No sign location or type is shown.
2. Lighting - No detail of the light standard is
given. No locations of standards.
3. Solid Waste Storage - Inside storage or dumpster
location is not noted.
4. Color - Color is not shown on the plans.
A larger issue concerns landscaping. The current plan shows
the parking lot screened with one lilac bush for each parking
space. This is not adequate. In addition, two islands
should be placed in the parking lot at the end of the
internal parking rows. These should be landscaped to break-
up the "sea -of- asphalt" and to show their locations in
winter. I also believe that additional specimen plantings
should be made in the "front yard." Even moving the building
and parking lot to within 125 feet of the right -of -way will
leave the church with about an acre of grass. Something to
break -up this flat area and call attention to the church
would be desirable.
One low maintenance option is the planting of pine trees
adjacent to the driveway coming to the parking area. Even if
the church is moved closer to the road these plantings would
give a visual affect of depth (two parallel lines). Other
specimen trees should be located in the area.
I visited with the church's architect about these items and
believe he will be able to address them at the board's
meeting.
Recommended Action: Motion to recommend to the city council
approval of the site and building plan for Gethsemane
Methodist Church, Application #89 -27, permitting construction
of a church and parking lot on Lake in accordance with plans
submitted to the city contingent upon the following plan
amendments:
1. Location and design details for a low profile
monument sign. No directory sign be permitted.
2. Location and detail of lighting standards.
3. Move of the church and parking lot 125 feet to the
west.
4. Addition of two landscaped parking islands to the
church parking lot. Each island to include one
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5. Addition of the following specimen plantings to the
front yard: 4 American Linden 2 1/2" dbh, 4 honey
locust 2 1/2 dbh, 3 radiant crab 1 3/4" dbh. (One
tree per 4000 square feet).
6. Addition of 34 Austrian Pine or Black Hills Spruce
5 foot b and b to be planted adjacent to the
driveway (6 feet d.c.).
7. Continuation of the curb to and from the parking
lot along the driveway to the street right -of -way.
8. Written indication of exterior wall and roof color.
9. Addition of 54 common purple lilacs along south and
west borders of the parking lot (3 feet a.c.)
Ron Stahlberg stated that a drainage plan going to the east
will need to be included, and a permit from the Rice Creek
Watershed District is needed along with a detention pond for
the area.
A culvert is needed under the driveway. A permit from MNDOT
as to the size of the culvert is required.
The board felt that the applicant has met all required codes,
and doesn't feel that the board can require the building
moved closer to the road. The applicant wants to have that
space for further expansion of the church, and the board is
adhering to the applicants wishes.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to recommend to City Council
approval of the Site and Building Plan Review for Gethsemane
Methodist Church, Application #89 -27 contingent upon plan
amendments as recorded in John Millers letter to the board
with acception of #3. Approval is contingent upon Mr.
Stahlberg's recommendations as listed below:
1. Drainage Plan and Permit from Rice Creek Watershed
District.
2. The applicant make provisions for Sewer and Water.
3. Approval from MN DOT on culvert size for the
driveway.
Mr. King seconded the motion, and the motion was approved
unanimously.
REQUEST FROM JAMES A. DUPRE FOR A MINOR SUBDIVISION,
APPLICATION #89 -25.
This item was neglected, and unfortunately was not added to
the agenda. The board was presented with Mr. Dupre's
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application, and the plans written up by the surveyor. Mr.
Dupre owns a 4 -plex on Main Street. He wishes to subdivide
parcel 1 and add a 12 foot section onto parcel 2. This will
give the applicant adequate space to build a garage for the
residents of the 4 -plex.
Building Official, Pete Kluegel measured the site and assured
the board that all city codes are met.
There is a house on parcel #1. With the 12' of land removed
from this parcel the front footage would still be 190' which
is an adequate amount.
MOTION: Mr. King moved to recommend approval of a Minor
Subdivision, Application #89 -25 allowing for the expansion of
12' onto the property line on parcel 1, based on the
verification by the Building Official that all setbacks are
met. The 12' addition (parcel 3) should be attached to
parcel 2 to be part of one legal description. Al Robinson
seconded the motion, and the motion was approved unanimously.
DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENTS TO THE METROPOLITAN URBAN SERVICES
AREA BOUNDARY. (COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT). ORAL REPORT
BY RON STAHLBERG.
John Miller, Ron Stahlberg, and Laura Elken held several
informational meetings with residents in Lino Lakes, and
Laura Elken sent each resident a questionnaire after the
meeting asking them if they would like city sewer or not.
Ron Stahlberg was sent copies of the response from the
residents and as a result put together a map depicting areas
where people were or were not interested in sewer and water.
John Miller and Ron Stahlberg delivered this map and their
comments to the Metro Council. The map shows areas in which
will be eliminated from the MUSA boundary, along with areas
that will be added to the MUSA boundary. One example is that
Elmer Crohn's property will be added to the MUSA boundary
area.
Mr. Stahlberg stated that the Metro Council is willing to
work with the city on this issue. The residents in the city
that do not want utilities are happy to be out of the MUSA
and the same goes for residents that do want to be included.
REQUEST FOR MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL REGARDING CITY
DEVELOPMENT POLICY
Harold Bisel stated that he would like to bring the Planning
and Zoning Board and City Council together to exchange ideas.
Staff will pick a date for this meeting and send a memo out
to the boards.
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OLD BUSINESS
Fred Chase stated that the board has been moving items to
council level somewhat incomplete.
Irwin asked for a cut off date for the application and all
pertinent information to be in the cities hands by the cut
off date.
There was no New Business
Mr. King moved to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Chase seconded
the motion.
Meeting Adjourned at 10:55 p.m.