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PLANNING & ZONING MEETING
August 9, 1989
Chairman Charles Prokop called the regular meeting of the
Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board to order at 7:02 p.m.,
Wednesday, August 9, 1989 at the Lino Lakes City Hall.
Members present were: Chairman Charles Prokop, Boardmembers
Alan Irwin, Sally Kuether, Robert King, and Al Robinson.
Also present were: Mayor, Ben Benson; Councilmember, Andy
Neal, City Planner, John Miller; Building Official, Pete
Kluegel; and Planning Secretary, Laura Elken.
Members absent: Fred Chase.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
On pg. 3 at the end of the motion, it should read "Fred Chase
seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously.
Pg 8, paragraph's two and three. Correct spelling of the
last name is LeTourneau.
Mr. Irwin moved to approve the July P &Z minutes as corrected.
Al Robinson seconded the motion, and the motion was approved
unanimously.
REVIEW OF MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR JANET AND MIKE GIANOTTI,
APPLICATION #89 -37.
The Gianottis purchased a one acre single- family lot in
Ulmer's Rice Lake 3rd Addition. They were one of four buyers
in that subdivision. After that time the lots were re-
subdivided into sewer - available city size lots.
The Gianottis wish to divide their parcel into four lots.
Their parcel is 1.15 acres. Two of the lots will be 81 x 150
and the other two will be approximately 80 x 160 feet. All
dimension meet city requirements.
The map submitted to the Planning and Zoning Board did not
show where the applicants home is positioned. Pete Kluegel
confirmed that their home did meet all required setbacks.
MOTION: Robert King moved to recommend to the City Council
approval of a Minor Subdivision for J. & M. Gianotti,
Application #89 -37. adding that the Gianotti's house be added
to the plat before council review. Al Robinson seconded the
motion, and the motion was approved unanimously.
REVIEW OF WILLOW PONDS, D. ERICKSON'S TOWNHOME PROJECT
John Miller stated that some time ago the Planning and Zoning
Board reviewed both the concept plan and the preliminary plat
for townhomes located west of St. Joseph's Catholic Church
property. The city council reviewed this project, and it
failed by a split decision. When property is rezoned from an
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R -1 to a PUD there has to be a 4/5 vote, and they were unable
to get that from council.
Since then Mr. Miller has visited with neighbors, and spoke
with residents that were against this project, along with the
park board chairman. They reached a compromise.
Mr. Held presented the board with a revised site plan. This
plan has changed in the following ways:
1. The dwellings have been reduced from 70 units down
to 54 units.
2. There is larger green areas on the west side of the
project.
3. Creation of a trail system that would start at
Willow Ponds, cross Sunnygate on the north leading
to Second Avenue. From there the trail would be
extended west to Sunrise Park through Parkview
Estates, and then travel to the north from Sunrise
would be facilitated by placing a cul -de -sac at the
south end of Sunrise Drive.
4. Setbacks have been increased on Elm Street.
Residents living to the south of the project will just see
green area, people from the Lakeview side will see the
project from more of a distance with the 100 foot setback.
While John Miller was in negotiations with the developer
provisions were made for a sound Homeowner's Association with
provision for dues payment in the event of mortgage default,
and also a "no- rentals" agreement.
Sally Kuether thinks the ponding area is a good thing, and
feels this is a good use of the land. She doesn't think
however, that it is possible to enforce a "no- rentals" clause
in the Homeowner's Association.
Alan Irwin asked about landscaping. He stated that he likes
the concept, is a good use of the land, and added that he
feels it could accommodate even more units.
Robert King likes it even better now with less units.
Alan Irwin stated that If the setbacks are met on Elm Street,
then he is in favor of the project.
All members were in favor of the townhome project, the next
step is for the plan to be reviewed by council.
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CONSIDERATION OF SITE AND BUILDING PLAN REVIEW FOR PRAISE OF
HIS GLORIES MINISTRIES, APPLICATION #89 -35, AND CONSIDERATION
OF CONDITIONAL IJSE PERMIT, APPLICATION #89 -39.
Barbara Walker and Loretta Holm representing PHG Church
addressed the board. The church owns approximately 51 acres
of land at the end of Holly Drive. The applicant wishes to
construct a center designed to look like a single- family
residence, inside there would be meeting and office space.
Ms. Walker stated that within the next 5 years they hope to
expand to allow for a small retreat center.
The proposed structure would cover an area of 1804 square
feet.
John Miller stated that the following should be followed
through:
1. The applicant should deed the north 40 feet of land
to the city for road purposes.
2. A driveway should be constructed at a right angle
to Holly Drive.
3. The garage should be moved south to meet the city's
30 foot front yard setback requirement.
John Miller recommended approval of a conditional use permit
and site plan with the following conditions:
1. The applicant deed to the City of Lino Lakes 40
feet of land on the north of the parcel for road
purposes.
2. The driveway should enter the property at a right
angle to Holly Drive and not be an extension of the
public street.
3. The garage and prayer center should be located to
meet a 40 foot setback from the 40 foot right -of-
way.
4. The driveway and parking lot be paved.
5. Nothing in the conditional use permit be
interpreted or construed as freeing the applicant
from meeting all building code standards for public
buildings.
Pete Kluegel stated that the north and front end of the
property is on high ground.
MOTION: Alan Irwin moved to recommend to City Council
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approval of the Site and Building Plan for Praise of His
Glories Ministries, Application #89 -35 contingent upon
meeting the city planner's recommendations as described
above. That topography, wetlands and high water marks be
shown on the plat map before this application is reviewed by
the Lino Lakes City Council. Robert King seconded the
motion, and the motion was approved unanimously.
MOTION: Robert King moved to recommend approval of a
Conditional Use Permit for PHG Ministries, Application #89 -39
with the stipulation that #5 of Mr. Miller's recommendation
be met. It states:
Nothing in the conditional use permit be interpreted or
construed as freeing the applicant from meeting all
building code standards for public buildings.
Sally Kuether seconded the motion, and the motion was
approved unanimously.
REVIEW OF SITE AND BUILDING PLAN REVIEW FOR WCCO RADIO
SATELLITE, APPLICATION #89 -36.
John Palmer, Consulting Electric Engineer from Midwest Cable
& Satellite Company wishes to add an additional satellite on
the site to keep up with the demands for more cable services.
The construction is to be located on the 158 acre parcel
owned by Midwest Cable.
In 1982 Midwest Radio- Television Inc. (A.K.A. WCCO) received
a conditional use permit from the city to locate a radio
transmission facility on land near the south boundary of Lino
Lakes on Holly Drive. At that time three 10 meter dishes
were installed. In 1984 the applicant asked for a 44 x 52
foot building on the property. The project was approved with
the following conditions:
1. The building surface facing Holly Drive be covered
with brick.
2. Proper screening be planted.
3. Damage to Holly Drive by transporting building
materials be repaired by WCCO.
4. If the building is abandoned, that it not be sold
as a residence.
Later in 1984 the CUP was amended again to add two additional
receiving antennae dishes.
John Miller added that the brick never was put on the front
of the building and their is no evidence of "proper
screening" as required in the 1984 permit.
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In the memorandum written by John Miller to the P &Z board,
it states:
Professional Opinion: The applicant has no long range plan
for the 158 acre parcel. In the time I've worked for the
city three different individuals representing the property
owner have visited with us regarding different development
proposals. The staff has emphasized to Midwest the need for
a long -term comprehensive plan for the property.
At this time the applicant is in a squeeze because of the
new sports channel and there's a rush to get the additional
dish up as soon as possible. The city should approve the
dish but require a start on landscaping. In addition it
should be made perfectly clear to Midwest that no additional
construction on the site will be permitted until such time as
a long —range development plan for the property is submitted.
Charles Prokop suggested the applicant put up a sign on the
property to possibly sell and subdivide the land.
Landscaping on the site was discussed. The board felt that
this site needs a sufficient amount of trees (possibly 36) in
order to have "proper screening ".
MOTION: Alan Irwin moved to recommend to City Council
approval of a Conditional Use Permit for WCCO -T.V.,
Application #89 -36 providing the applicant meets the
following requirements:
1. A total of 18 five -foot b and b Colorado blue
spruce and 18 2 1/2 inch dbh silver maple trees be
planted adjacent to Holly Drive.
2. No additional construction at the site prior to
city approval of an overall development plan for
the 158 acre parcel.
Sally Kuether seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF MINOR SUBDIVISION, CARL FRANZEN, APPLICATION
#89 -21.
This is a lot split to convey 14.7 feet of land from a 26
acre parcel to an existing lot of record. The land is
located on County Road 54 (the west frontage road on I -35E)
about 3/4 of a mile north of White Bear Township.
Several years ago a small subdivision named Bloom's Addition
was approved by the city. Lot 1 of that subdivision is
located on the south side and is presently the site of a
single - family dwelling and a garage. The problem is the
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garage. It is partially located (4.7 feet) on the 26 acre
parcel.
Presently the home on Lot 1 is listed for sale. The problem
with the garage though has held up the sale of the property.
Charles Bloom is the person who platted Bloom's Addition and
he has become involved again. Bloom will purchase 14.7 feet
from John McClean and the Hansen family for $4,600. and
attach it with city approval to Lot 1.
The board saw no problem with this request. It was
recognized that a new parcel is not created, therefore no
park dedication is necessary.
MOTION: Robert King moved to recommend to City Council
approval of a Minor Subdivision for Carl Franzen, Application
#89 -34. Al Robinson seconded the motion and the motion was
approved unanimously.
AMENDMENT TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SIMONSON'S GARAGE,
APPLICATION #89 -21.
In June the city council on recommendation from the Planning
and Zoning Board approved a Conditional Use Permit for
Simonson's Garage to operate in the old Luther's Marine
building. In the council's action Bob Simonson was given 60
days (August 12) to complete several site maintenance and
clean -up items. The conditions attached to the CUP were as
follows:
1. "No parking" signage on land adjacent to Lois Lane.
2. Fence on east side of property to be extended to
include the park land adjacent to the building
(board on board construction).
3. Selling of cars on an occasional basis shall be
permitted.
4. Removal of the free- standing sign at the southwest
corner of the property.
5. Removal of the fuel tanks and pump island from the
west side of the site. any disturbed areas
presently covered with asphalt to be repaired and
covered with a minimum of two inches of asphalt.
6. Any sign to promote the business be flush- mounted
to the Lake Drive side of the building.
7. Repair of the brick facade (approximately 12
inches) on the west side of the building.
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8. Painting of the concrete block addition to the
structure.
9. Removal of trash from the site including but not
limited to oil, barrels, pallets, batteries, fuel
barrels, and wood.
10. Reconstruction of the pump house on the south side
of the building.
11. Repair of the concrete blocks and windows in the
rear or east wall.
12. Construction of a six foot high wood fence along
the rear lot line. Fence to be 90 per cent opaque.
13. Painting of repaired parcels on western -most garage
door.
14. No outside storage of car parts or car or truck
bodies.
15. No parking on the Lois Lane side of the building.
16. Planting of six 5 foot b and b Black Hills Spruce
adjacent to the fence extending south of the
building.
17. Painting of the mansard roof.
Mr. Simonson stated that the sign was put up the day of the
P &Z meeting.
The fuel tanks were removed, and pollution was found below
them. The area is being tested by the pollution agency.
Once testing is completed the parking lot will be repaired
and paved.
The applicant wishes to rent one stall for a transmission
repair shop. The only change according to Mr. Simonson would
be a second sign to be mounted below the flush - mounted sign
planned for the front of the building. There was discussion
as to the size of the sign, and John Miller suggested Mr.
Simonson visit with him on the sign prior to council review.
Charles Prokop stated that the applicant has shown he is
acting in good faith, and neighbors have not complained.
MOTION: Alan Irwin recommended to the city council approval
of an amendment to a Conditional Use Permit for Bob
Simonson's Garage, Application #89 -21 for a second business
to be installed, this is a transmission repair shop. The
applicant understands that at its annual review, the parking
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at Lois Lane will be reviewed. The question of the proposed
transmission sign will be worked out between the applicant
and staff prior to the city councils review. "No parking"
signs must be installed by the August 28th council meeting.
Sally Kuether seconded the motion, and the motion was
approved unanimously.
SITE AND BUILDING PLAN REVIEW FOR MAIN STREET SHOPPES /JIM
WINKELS
Charles Prokop stated that MarCor promised building plans to
be available to the board at the time their packets were sent
out. This was not done. The board received the site and
building plans just before the meeting started. Mr. Prokop
stated that he doesn't feel it is appropriate for the board
to comment on the plans until they have had time to review
them.
Jim Winkels stated that he has been involved in 30 some
commercial developments. Most of those were redevelopment
projects such as the case of Ross's. They have increased the
size from the original plan. Ross's have purchased property
east of them for a larger plan.
Jim Winkels talked about a drainage problem between Ross's
and the bank. In development of Main Street Shoppes the
drainage will be used for Ross's and the banks benefit.
The proposed site will include Ross's Liquor Store, a hair
salon, a gas /convenient store, hardware store, and a couple
of restaurants.
Jeff Anderson, the architect working on the plan discussed
parking, the drainage problem, and expressed to the board his
concerns regarding landscaping and screening.
Each boardmember stated their feelings, and all were in
agreement that this will be an improvement to the city, and
the concept looked good. Alan Irwin was concerned about the
drainage. Alan stated that when the applicant gives the
board something complete, he will go over it with the city
code book, and see that it meets all city requirements, if it
does, then Alan gives his approval.
Sally Kuether was concerned about parking. If there are
restaurants in this area, she felt there should be more
parking than the site plan shows. The plans show 5/1000
people, the minimum is 4/1000.
Al Robinson stated that the drainage in that area has been a
problem for years, and he is concerned about that.
Charles Prokop asked if this development is planned to be
included in the tax increment financing program by the city,
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John Miller assured the board that this will be included in a
TIF plan.
The board discussed their feelings on "Special Meetings"
They feel this is an important project, and that the hoard
can justify holding a special meeting, although the board
would not like to make a practice of it.
Alan Irwin stated that holding special meetings would be
setting precedence, which applications do we hold special
meetings for and which ones don't we hold special meetings
for? John Miller suggested that the board set a policy
regarding what type of projects require special meetings.
A special Planning and Zoning meeting will be held once
MarCor has completed their site plan completed. Jim Winkels
will contact city hall when they are ready to meet with the
board and a meeting will be called.
At the September P &Z meeting the board will discuss
establishing a policy for setting one item meetings.
This will then go to council for their approval.
NEW BUSINESS
DISCUSSION OF WORK SESSION
During a work session held at 6:30 p.m. on August 9, 1989,
policy was discussed as to the subdivision of rural parcels.
Several ideas were brought up from claiming easements around
the perimeter of the land to asking the applicant to hire a
surveyor and platting out streets.
The board decided on a two part decision. First of all
regarding subdivision of rural land in areas where city
streets already exist on a city map as worked out by the City
Engineer, Ron Stahlberg. In those areas where the city
street map exists, easements would be granted to the city, so
that this property could be tied into these city streets.
The second part was that in areas of the city that have not
yet planned for city streets, in those areas when land is
subdivided, the city staff and city engineer would be called
in to recommend to land owners where the city streets would
probably be located, and easements would be granted based on
recommendations by the city engineer.
The proposed roads will be on the title, and will be legally
filed at the court house.
MOTION: Robert King moved to recommend to City Council that
approval be given on a planning policy for large parcel
subdivision as described above. Alan Irwin seconded the
motion, and the motion was approved unanimously.
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DISCUSSION OF SUBDIVISION POLICY FOR ONE ACRE RESIDENTIAL
PARCELS WITH SEWER AVAILABLE.
At this meeting the city had its first subdivision of a
platted one -acre residential lot.
Fortunately this pre - existing lot was slightly larger than an
acre and as a result all minimum lot standards were met.
John Miller requested that the board set a policy now, as it
will make the administrative part of future subdivisions of
this kind easier - as well as ensuring consistency.
After discussion a motion was made.
MOTION: Sally Kuether moved to recommend to the city council
that one acre lots that existed prior to the current urban
lot size requirements be allowed to be split into the smaller
urban size lots. This subdivision will be approved providing
the applicant meets two out of three urban size lot
requirements of width, depth, and square footage. Robert
King seconded the motion, and the motion was approved
unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
Charles Prokop asked that John Miller look at what trends is
the city seeing and the possibility of modifying the zoning
ordinance. John Miller asked that if the boardmembers are
concerned about certain issues, please call him.
Sally Kuether complained about all the cars allowed to remain
in yards. Also she stated that an update should be made on
the sign ordinance.
It was discussed that Pete Kluegel, Building Official must be
just swamped. Pete Kluegel stated that a Community Service
Officer has been hired to take care of nuisance complaints
such as junk cars, and that helps Pete out a lot, although
with the rapid growth of the city, he is awfully busy. The
Planning and Zoning Board backed Pete up and felt that an
additional person should be considered to help out Pete.
John Miller stated that once sewer is extended to what he
thinks it will that there may be up to 500 additional homes
built each year. Charles Prokop recently read an article
stating that the City of Lino Lakes is seconded in the county
for home valuation and he commended John Miller for the work
he has done for the city.
Alan Irwin stated that since we zoned Anoka County Park to
Public - Semi - Public that an ordinance should be revised
including the PSP factor.
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Robert King moved to adjourn the meeting. Sally Kuether
seconded the motion. Meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
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PLANNING AND ZONING WORK SESSION
August 9, 1989
The Worksession began at 6:30 p.m. in the Lino Lakes
Conference Room. Members present were: Charles Prokop, Alan
Irwin, Robert King, and Al Robinson. Also present were City
Planner, John Miller; Building Official, Pete Kluegel; and
Planning Secretary, Laura Elken.
The board discussed establishing a policy as to the
subdivision of rural parcels. Several ideas were brought up
from claiming easements around the perimeter of the land to
asking the applicant to hire a surveyor and platting out
streets.
John Miller suggested that City Engineer, Ron Stahlberg look
at these individual parcels, and ask him to determine where
the road should be placed. That will cost the city some
money, but the city would have control over the street
placement, and it wouldn't cost the city near as much as if
the applicant had to bear the expense. Alan Irwin said that
it would cost as much as $5,000 for a surveyor to plat out a
20 acre parcel, and it would just take a couple of hours for
the cit engineer to establish road placement.
John Miller would like to see the minimum lot size in a rural
zone to be 20 acres instead of 10. He feels it is much
easier to subdivide a 20 acre parcel, and he sees a potential .
problem in the future, how is the city going to handle
subdivision of many 10 acre lots. Charles Prokop said he was
ambivilant on a 10 acre or 20 acre minimum.
The board decided on a two part decision. First of all
regarding subdivision of rural land in areas where there
already exists a city street map as worked out by the City
Engineer, Ron Stahlberg. In those areas where the city
street map exists, easements would be granted to the city, so
that this property could be tied into these city streets.
The second part reads that in areas of the city that have not
yet established city streets by the city engineer, when land
is subdivided, the city staff and city engineer would be
called in to recommend to land owners where the city streets
would probably be located, and easements would be granted
based on recommendations by the city engineer.
The proposed roads will be on the title, and will be legally
filed at the court house.
Meeting adjourned at 6:59 p.m.