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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/11/1989 P&Z Minutes• • • PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 11, 1989 The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was brought to order by Chairman Charles Prokop at 7:00 p.m. at the Lino Lakes City Hall. Members present were: Chairman Charles Prokop, Boardmembers Alan Irwin, Robert King, Sally Kuether, and Fred Chase. Al Robinson was absent. Also present were: Councilmember, Harold Bisel; City Planner, John Miller; City Engineer, Ron Stahlberg, Building Official, Pete Kluegel; and Planning Secretary, Laura Elken. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES Pg. 2 in the Motion at the bottom of the page add: "Al Robinson seconded the motion, and the motion was approved unanimously." Robert King moved to accept the minutes of the September 13th meeting as corrected. Sally Kuether seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously. OPEN MIKE. ELWIN KLIMEK, 1390 KARTH ROAD He purchased a pole barn from 255 Ash Street. The pole barn is 2,000 square feet. According to the ordinance he is only allowed a 1,600 square foot building. The board felt that unless the applicant is able to show a hardship, and meet the six findings of fact, a variance should not be issued. Fred Chase told the applicant that he can petition for a change in the ordinance. Mr. Klimek said that to put up the pole barn without the additional 12 feet on the back wouldn't be that much of a problem. REVIEW OF CONCEPT PLAN FOR SEWER SERVICE AREA ONE (NEAR BIRCH STREET AND WARE ROAD). RON STAHLBERG. Ron Stahlberg presented a map to the board outlining the proposed sewer path in this area. Many property owners in the area are interested in subdividing their land. There is a small parcel to the south of this area that is not in the MUSA boundary. Mr. Stahlberg hopes to include them in the MUSA. John Miller and Ron Stahlberg held many neighborhood meetings and the main concern by the residents was that the city treat them fairly. PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 11, 1989 Ron Stahlberg explained the flow of the system to the board. He stated that this project will be done in phases. After further discussion a motion was made. MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to recommend to City Council approval of the concept plan for sewer service area one (near Birch Street and Ware Road). Sally Kuether seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously. REVIEW OF CONCEPT PLAN FOR LENA BILLEK PROPERTY (NEAR SECOND AVENUE AND LAKE DRIVE). RON STAHLBERG Ron Stahlberg wishes to change the concept plan. The board never received a copy of the concept plan, but Ron explained that he just wanted this to be a verbal presentation and the board will be able to review the concept plan before it council action. Ron would like to add a cul -de -sac to the plan and delete the five lots adjacent to 2nd Avenue. A pre- construction meeting was held October llth. After further discussion a motion was made. MOTION: Mr. Irwin moved to recommend to City Council that modifications in the plan be approved. Robert King seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously. MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR TOM VAIL FOR PROPERTY LOCATED IN ULMER'S RICE LAKE ADDITION. APPLICATION #89 -47. Tom Vail is the owner of single - family residence at 7081 Rice Lake Drive. Vail's dwelling is located on an approximate one -acre parcel of Ulmer's Rice Lake Addition. With the development of Menkveld's Sunrise Meadows, sanitary sewer has become available to property adjacent to Second Avenue. This includes Vail's large lot which has access to both Second Avenue and Rice Lake Drive. The board reviewed a certificate of survey. The applicant wishes to subdivide his lot creating two 75 x 150 foot single - family lots adjacent to Second Avenue. Vail would keep the front half of his present lot where his dwelling and drainfield are located (That is depicted as Lot A). Mr. Chase asked about any assurance that Mr. Vail's dwelling will be hooked up to city utilities. Vail has a well and septic system now. Pete Kluegel said that if there was a problem with the septic system there is sufficient room to install a new one. The applicant would not be required to hook up to utilities if his systems failed. Pete Kluegel Page 2 • • PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 11, 1989 also stated that the drainfield is entirely on Mr. Vail's parcel. Lots B & C have sewer service available at the present time. Before building permits would be issued it would be understood that the new resident would be required to hook up to city utilities. Vail asked about park dedication. The board informed him that park dedication would be due prior to final plat approval. MOTION: Mr. King recommended to City Council approval of a Minor Subdivision for Tom Vail, Application #89 -47 as presented. Sally Kuether seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously. 7:45 p.m. MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR BRAD AND HELEN ELLEDGE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT LAKE DRIVE AND 77TH STREET. APPLICATION #89 -48. Helen Elledge complimented Mr. Miller on his memorandum. She stated that their concerns and wishes were all dealt with in his memo. The applicants own a trapezoidal parcel of land located in the southeast quadrant of the intersection of Lake Drive and Oak Lane. There are two legal descriptions for the parcel. The board was presented with a certificate of survey showing a dwelling, garage, kennel and other accessory building located on the west side of the parcel. The entire parcel covers an area of approximately two acres. The applicant wishes to sell the property and a buyer is interested in the western part of the property. Mr. & Mrs. Elledge wish to transfer a 25 foot wide strip of land from the eastern legally described parcel to the western parcel. This would move the kennel and one accessory building onto the western parcel. A variance is also required. John Miller stated that the kennel and accessory building are on the property line and that it is a hardship in the fact that this is a preexisting condition. The applicant assured the board that the kennel will be removed once the purchase agreement has been signed. The board felt the six findings of fact have been met. MOTION: Mr. Irwin moved to recommend to City Council approval of a Minor Subdivision, Application #89 -48, and a • Variance, Application *89-49 with the finding of fact that we can meet the six findings of fact, and conditioned on: 1. The twenty five foot parcel created be combined Page 3 • • • PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 11, 1989 with tract #1, Auditor's Subdivision #134, which is the existing parcel to the west. And that they become one parcel. 2. That the existing drainfield is located entirely on new tract #1. 3. That utility and drainage easements be given to the public over the west twenty feet of the east 85 feet of tract #1A, and over the west twenty feet of the east 160 feet of tract 1A. 4. Kennel fences will be taken down at the time of the signing of the purchase agreement. 5. That legal descriptions be amended to reflect the above motion. Robert King seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously. 8:10 p.m. REVIEW OF CONCEPT PLAN FOR RICE LAKE PLAZA RETAIL CENTER AT THE INTERSECTION OF T.H. 49 AND LAKE DRIVE. Neil Weber and Wellington Haight, architects for the developer were present at the meeting. M.C. Anderson is proposing to construct retail and office space at the intersection of Lake Drive and T.H. 49. The project would be approximately 75 to 80 per cent in Lino Lakes with the remainder in Circle Pines. This excludes bank and restaurant facilities which would also be located in Lino Lakes. Wellington Haight stated that stores within the retail center will be restaurants (possibly Perkins, Pannekoeken Huis, or Appleby's), office buildings, retail stores, a bank, grocery store, and there is a possibility of either Target or K -Mart building at this site. Traffic counts have been run and at the corner of 49 and Lake Drive, there is an average of 9,200 cars per day. Further down Lake drive the traffic average is 11,000 cars a day. A considerable amount of on site fill will be needed. A ponding area is planned for the south end of the site. This will be open water all year around with a built in aerater pump installed. Parking has not been discussed as of yet. But Wellington Haight assured the board that the tenants will require the developer to allow adequate parking. The parking area will Page 4 • PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 11, 1989 be large and many green areas will be added to create a nicer looking parking lot instead of a "sea of asphalt ". The applicant also stated that there are many mature oak trees on the site, and they will save as many as possible. Screening Rice Lake Plaza from residential areas was discussed. The applicant assured the board that will be taken into consideration. Drainage was discussed. Rice Creek Watershed and the DNR will take part in this issue. Rezoning on the property was discussed. John Miller stated that not all parcels are in a retail zoned area. John Miller stated that two parcels in this area will be part of Tax Increment Financing. The applicant has had some contact with the Corp of Engineers, Rice Creek Watershed District and they are waiting to see a more defined plan. Ron Stahlberg stated that from experience he is aware of some poor soils off Rice Lake Road and 2nd Avenue. The developer needs to meet with Ron Stahlberg soon to go over engineering issues. MOTION: Mr. King moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the Concept Plan for Rice Lake Plaza contingent upon Mr. Miller's recommendations as follows: 1. Department of Natural Resources and Rice Creek Watershed District review and approval of ponding and drainage issues. 2. Supplying required information to the city's fiscal consultant and tax increment attorney for preparation of a tax increment finance plan. 3. Preparation of preliminary and final plats and site and building plans for the development. 4. Guaranteeing first phase of any development be located in Lino Lakes. 5. Supplying other information as required by city staff. The approval of the concept plan isn't guaranteeing rezoning of any parcels. The 2nd Avenue relocation be taken care of along with the 100 year flood plain problems be looked at by the City Engineer. • • PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 11, 1989 Fred Chase seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously. 8:40 - five minute recess 8:46 - meeting was called to order. REVIEW OF CONCEPT PLAN FOR MISTY GLEN SINGLE- FAMILY SUBDIVISION LOCATED ON THE MOREHOUSE PROPERTY EAST OF LAKE DRIVE ON 79TH STREET. The board was presented with two concept plans for Misty Glen Subdivision. Al Schrader is the developer. This is the former Jack Morehouse property. The site is located approximately one quarter mile south of Main Street and near 79th Street and Lake Drive. Al Schrader emphasized plan B as the plan he would best like to develop. There is a 90 foot wide easement from the electric company that no structures can be built on running west to east through the development. There are two power poles on the easement. It was the park board's wishes to install a trail system on this easement. The Morehouse's daughter and son -in -law own a five acre parcel taken from the north- central part of the property. Presently it is expected they will retain approximately one acre for their residence with the other four becoming part of the Misty Glen subdivision. The board felt there may be a need for a through street on the east side of the development. Park dedication has been met. Al Schrader will pay a $400.00 fee per lot and three feet from the curb a four foot wide sidewalk will run on the north -south street. Charles Prokop stated that this is zoned R -1 and that manufactured housing is not permitted in R -1 zoning. Al Schrader stated that there are many different standards of manufactured housing. The manufactured homes in this subdivision would meet all code qualifications of any standard stick home. Schrader went on to say that some people prefer manufactured homes and that there wasn't alot of difference. Charles Prokop asked Mr. Schrader to meet with city staff and city engineer to discuss street patterns. Ron Stahlberg suggested a concept plan should be created showing street patterns for this whole area. The city needs a future street pattern to follow as growth occurs. Page 6 • • PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 11, 1989 Mr. Irwin suggested the cul -de -sac on the southwest corner of the plat be extended to the south to allow for future streets. He also stated that the lots on the cul -de -sac's on the plat do not meet the requirements of being 135' deep. Irwin also suggested a street to be extended on the east side of the plat to allow for future development of the streets. Schrader will meet with staff to discuss this issue. The preliminary plat will show a drainage assessment. MOTION: Fred Chase moved to recommend to city council approval of a concept plan for Misty Glen plan "B" with the understanding that the preliminary plat will be considered when: 1. The method and timing of extending city utilities to the site is resolved. 2. The applicant and the city planner have reached agreement as a method of guaranteeing house values in the development. 3. Approval has been given by the DNR and Rice Creek Watershed District. 4. Necessary road and utility easements have been secured for perimeter streets. 5. Park board approval has been given. The developer should work with the city in regards to the current status of the interceptor sewer and possibly connecting additional properties to the land by street access. The Developer will work with city staff to try and reallign the roads to make them more aesthetically pleasing. Mr. King seconded the motion and the motion was approved with Sally Kuether abstaining. 9:40 p.m. REVIEW OF CONCEPT PLAN FOR TIMBER PONDS SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION AS A REPLAT OF PINE OAKS SUBDIVISION LOCATED SOUTH OF PINE STREET AND WEST OF LAKE DRIVE. There was no one present to represent this concept plan. MOTION: Alan Irwin moved to table the concept plan for . Timber Ponds - Single Family Subdivision. Mr. King seconded the motion and the motion was approved with a three to one vote. • PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 11, 1989 CONCEPT PLAN FOR WILLOW PONDS - SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION /D. ERICKSONS. Tom Veenker from Merrill & Associates presented the board with several concept plans. D. Erickson presented the board with his recommended outlay depicting 26 lots and one outlot for a ponding area. Mr. Miller stated that the majority of the lots are double frontage lots. The board felt that townhomes would have been ideal for this odd shaped parcel. Single - family homes wouldn't be as desirable because the back yards would be against the freeway. Tom Veinkers reviewed other plans with the board. Other plans had cul -de -sacs on the plan, although the cul -de -sacs were quite long. Charles Prokop stated that he liked the large lot sizes on the plans. The board discussed lot measurements. Several lots were short in depth due to the fact that they are double frontage lots. The developer was asked to modify the plan to meet with city requirements for lot sizes. The corner lots have to be 105 feet wide. Tom Veinkers also asked the board for any comments in regards to the site being developed for commercial uses. Charles Prokop stated that a rezone would be required to allow commercial businesses to locate here and he felt there may be some problems again in this area. After further discussion a motion was made. MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to recommend to City Council approval of a concept plan for Willow Ponds contingent upon the developer redesigning the plan to meet all city requirements for double frontage and corner lots. Sally Kuether seconded the motion and the motion was approved with Mr. Irwin voting no. SHOWING AND DISCUSSION OF THE PROMOTIONAL VIDEO Due to technical difficulties the video was not shown. • CONSIDERATION OF ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS FROM TABLE OF SEPTEMBER 13, 1989. PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 11, 1989 111 The board is in the process of amending the Zoning ordinance. The boardmembers would like more time to review the ordinances, and get back to John Miller with their proposed changes. It was decided that all changes should be submitted to John Miller by November 1st. At that time a Saturday work session will be scheduled to discuss the proposed amendments. AMENDMENTS TO PARK DEDICATION ORDINANCE. The Lino Lakes Park board is planning on amending the park dedication ordinance. The proposed amendment will deal with commercial and industrial zoned sites. The park board will be requiring the applicant to plat their land in order to collect park dedication fees. Mr. Irwin didn't like the idea of requiring the applicant to plat the land. MOTION: Sally Kuether moved that the P &Z board is in favor of an amendment to the park dedication ordinance. Mr. King seconded the motion and the motion was approved with a three to one vote. OLD BUSINESS The board discussed accessory building amendments. Irwin feels this is an outdated ordinance. Pete Kluegel, Building Official, will be asked to enlighten the board on this issue. NEW BUSINESS MOTION: Alan Irwin moved that the Planning and Zoning board wishes to alert the City Council that drainage has become a problem on the north side of Main Street to the Elmer Crohn property. Ditch cleaning should be completed. The City Engineer would like authorization from the City Council to proceed in ditch cleaning of this area. Mr. King seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously. Corner Lots John Miller asked the P &Z's opinion on how the board would like to subdivide corner lots. It could be divided into two long rectangular lots, or three lots. The board decided that they would rather see three lots (two lots 105' wide and one lot 90' wide). There are parcels that will be presented to the P &Z board in the near future with this option to face and Mr. Miller just Page 9 • • • PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 11, 1989 wanted the board's opinion. Mr. King moved to adjourn the meeting. Chase seconded the motion - meeting adjourned 10:52 p.m. Page 10