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PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING
December 13, 1989
The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning
Board was brought to order by Chairman Charles Prokop at 7:02
p.m. at the Lino Lakes City Hall. Members present were:
Chairman Charles Prokop, Board Members Alan Irwin, Robert
King, Sally Kuether, and Fred Chase. Al Robinson was absent.
Also present were: Council Member, Harold Bisel; City
Planner, John Miller; Building Official, Pete Kluegel; and
Planning Secretary, Laura Elken.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
Mr. Irwin moved to approve the November Planning and Zoning
Minutes. Mr. Chase seconded the motion and the motion was
approved unanimously.
ESTABLISH MEETING DATES
The Planning and Zoning Board decided that because the agenda
was very lengthy a meeting will be scheduled later in the
month to complete the agenda. Charles Prokop decided that
the board would review items #1 -7 at this meeting, and items
40 #8 -14 on December 19th. Laura Elken contacted the applicants
for agenda #8 -14, and informed them of the meeting on the
19th.
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A work session is scheduled for Saturday, December 30th at
8:30 a.m. to continue updating the zoning ordinance book.
REVIEW OF CONCEPT PLAN FOR TIMBER PONDS SINGLE- FAMILY
DEVELOPMENT (FROM TABLE OF OCTOBER 11, 1989).
Mr. Chase moved to table this item because no one was present
to address this issue. Mr. King seconded the motion. A
letter will be sent to the applicant in regards to the
tabling.
REVIEW OF REVISED SITE AND BUILDING PLAN AND VARIANCE FOR
PAUL WOLTERS. APPLICATION #89 -51 AND #89 -52. (FROM TABLE OF
NOVEMBER 8, 1989).
At the November board meeting Paul Wolters presented plans to
construct a free - standing storage building. The boardmembers
felt that setbacks were not addressed. A portion of the
north boundary is adjacent to a single - family residential
district. When this occurs a 75 foot setback is required.
The applicant submitted a revised site plan and the setback
issue is resolved.
The applicant is proposing the elimination of the wood frame
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structure entirely. Mr. Wolters is now requesting an
addition to the pole barn formerly used by C and D Auto
Repair Shop. The addition would measure 39.5 x 40 feet and
cover an area of 1580 square feet. A variance would be
required for the south sideyard setback. The board
previously approved a site plan allowing him to build within
12 feet of the lot line. Mr. Wolters argues that "If they
did it once they will do it again." The zoning ordinance
requires a 40 foot setback when industrial land is adjacent
to commercial land.
Discussion turned to setbacks on Mr. Wolters property. Alan
Irwin stated that all easements were not shown on the site
plan as asked in the November Motion.
Mr. Wolters explained that he did measure the right -of -way.
He measured from the center line of the street. And also
assured the board that the right -of -way stake was still in
the ground and that his building is 53 feet away from that
stake. Mr. Miller verified that Mr. Wolters meets the
required 53 foot setback.
Mr. Chase asked Pete Kluegel how close a septic system would
be to the addition to the front of the building. Mr. Wolters
stated that he could move a wall further north otherwise he
might lose the septic tank.
After further discussion a motion was made.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to recommend to the City Council
approval of the revised site plan for Paul Wolters #89 -51
contingent upon the following conditions:
1. The entire site should be cleaned of all junk,
refuse, trash, and junk motor vehicles.
2. The weed covered area adjacent to the well shop
should be planted to grass cover.
3. The site plan shows 17 lilacs adjacent to the fence
in the rear yard. These should be planted. Size
should be 2 gallons.
4. Six additional five foot b and b Black Hills Spruce
should be planted in front of the parking lot.
5. A steel railing to delineate the concrete driveway
from the green area on the west side of the
property.
6. The city's building inspector should inspect the
property at 60 day intervals prior to the annual
CUP review held by the city council on July lst.
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7. An escrow or letter -of- credit should be deposited
with the city in the amount of $5,000 to ensure
completion of the site improvements and site plan
submitted at this time.
8. The setback from the north be four feet from the
side of the building.
9. Eliminating two parking stalls on the south in
front of the new office addition and landscaping
per the planners recommendations. The two parking
stalls may be replaced on the north side.
10 A minimum 53' setback from the right -of -way line to
the front of the building be met.
11. The office addition must have proper setbacks from
the septic system.
Mr. King seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unanimously.
Variance
A variance is necessary for the south sideyard setback. The
zoning ordinance requires a 40 foot setback when industrial
land is adjacent to commercial land. The board previously
approved a site plan allowing him to build within 12 feet of
the lot line. He argues that "If they did it once they will
do it again."
MOTION: Mr. King moved to grant a variance to allow
construction within 12 feet of the south lot line. Mr. Chase
seconded the motion and the motion was approved unanimously.
Mr. Irwin stated that a six foot high fence is in place. It
is a wood fence and comes up to the back of the existing
building. This fence was installed to distract from the cars
parked while C & D Auto was in existence. Mr. Miller will
check this out, and find out if this fence should extend
further west or not.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to table this issue because the
packet was missing the conditional use permit application.
The conditional use permit will be brought up at the P &Z
meeting scheduled the 19th.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to take Timber Ponds from the table.
Mr. King seconded the motion and the motion was carried.
Mr. Anderson, one of the three developers of Timber Ponds was
present.
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• Timber Ponds is a replat of Pine Oaks. The applicants are
willing to replat the entire 80 acre parcel into R -1X lots.
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Alan Irwin expressed his concern that no street is shown
coming up to the subdivision.
Also he stated that Nordin Street exists only as a half
street, and that some provisions should be made to tie into
Wildwood Estates.
Mr. Anderson said that a proposed road giving access to the
south from Wildwood Estates is planned.
The problem the applicant faces is the fact that there will
be a delay with this project because of the wait for sewer
availability. The applicant is aware of this.
The City Council will be deciding in January as to how
quickly sewer will enter this area.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to approve the concept plan for
Timber Ponds contingent upon the following:
1. MUSA boundary change by the Metropolitan Council to
include the land in the sewer available area of the
city.
2. Review and approval by the Department of Natural
Resources.
3. Review and approval by the Rice Creek Watershed
District.
4. Review and approval by the Lino Lakes Park Board.
5. Consider road connection to the proposed Wildwood
Plat.
6. Either widen Nordin Street to 60 feet or eliminate
Nordin Street altogether.
City Staff will work with the developers to look at an
alternative to the double frontage lots along Pine Street.
Sally Kuether seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unanimously.
REQUEST FOR A MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR LAND ON CENTERVILLE ROAD
BETWEEN COUNTY ROAD 54 AND COUNTY ROAD 14, HERMAN STREHLOW,
APPLICATION #89 -53.
0 Attorney Fred Kueppers, representing Herman Strehlow
addressed the board.
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Herman Strehlow wishes to sell the south half of his 40
acres. Most of Strehlow's property is in the Centerville
City limits. The problem is that an area of .06 acres of
land is in the City of Lino Lakes.
Bill Hawkins, City Attorney suggested that a minor
subdivision is required to convey this parcel to the Stevens.
MOTION: Alan Irwin moved to recommend to the city council
approval of a minor subdivision for Herman and Joyce Strehlow
permitting the recording of an unbuildable parcel measuring
.06 acre in size. Application #89 -53. Mr. King seconded the
motion and the motion was approved unanimously.
REQUEST FOR A MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR LAND ON RONDEAU LAKE
DRIVE EAST NEAR THE NORTH CORPORATE LIMITS, BRIAN WESSEL.
Brian Wessel purchased approximately 25 acres of land on
Rondeau Drive East and he is building his home on the
property. Much of his land is unbuildable.
This land is zoned Rural. Mr. Wessel stated that the bank is
asking him to subdivide his property.
Mr. Irwin asked about the future of this property. He
stated that ghost plats such as this would be required to
show streets. Irwin suggested this be waived since this is a
remote area and the majority is unbuildable and shown as
wetland. Also the St. Paul Water Department owns the
property to the north of this site.
MOTION: Mr. King moved to recommend to city council approval
of a minor subdivision for Brian Wessel for land located on
Rondeau Drive East, Application #89 -54. The Planning and
Zoning Board is waiving the requirement for showing future
access roads. Sally Kuether seconded the motion and the
motion was carried.
CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND A
SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR AN AUTO REPAIR GARAGE AT THE
INTERSECTION OF LILAC STREET AND FOURTH AVENUE. DEAN QUIMBY.
APPLICATIONS *89-55 AND *89-56.
Dean Quimby, operator of Don's Circle Service located on
Sunset Avenue, has purchased the Clyde Rehbein pole barn at
416 Lilac Street. Quimby wishes to change the building's use
to auto and truck repair. He is also asking to construct a
32 x 36 foot addition to the current pole barn.
Mr. Miller stated that there is approximately 100 acres of
vacant industrial land south of the reformatory. There have
been many inquiries from developers to purchase land in this
area. Sally Kuether also stated that she has had several
inquiries. Mr. Miller found that some of these developers
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have shown reluctance to purchasing land looking at the
neighborhood they would be in. Mr. Miller stated that sewer
has been extended to this area and that the city has to be
concerned about what types of businesses they allow in this
area.
John Miller asked for the board's input as to what type of
businesses they would like John to bring to the P &Z for their
approval. What would the board like Lino Lakes to be. He
stated that there are approximately six pole barns in this
area. John Miller estimates one inquiry per month for
businesses at this site.
Sally Kuether agreed that the street is not attractive.
Mr. Irwin stated that at first he felt that the applicant
meets all city requirements and he was planning on approving
it. But, he wasn't looking at the whole picture. He feels
that these are important concerns. Mr. Irwin felt that this
proposal would intensify what is now there and that is not
desirable.
Mr. King abstained.
Mr. Chase stated that the board is looking at improving this
area. He told the applicant that if he came forward with a
different site plan, improving the situation, he may have a
different consideration.
Mr. Quimby stated that the building is vacant, he will put in
landscaping and shrubbery and he would be willing to pave the
lot. He wants to be in the building and asked the board what
they would like from him.
Charles Prokop asked Mr. Kluegel how the applicant could
convert a pole type structure into a more desirable building.
Pete Kluegel stated that he could use brick and improve the
facade. But as far as increasing the value he would have to
speak with the county assessor.
Sally Kuether stated that if you increase the value of the
building, the taxes increase. She stated that the issue is
the building. Ms. Kuether feels that the board should wait
for another business to come to this site.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved to recommend to City Council to deny
the Conditional Use Permit and Site and Building Plan for
Dan Quimby, Applications #89 -55 and #89 -56 because it does
not meet the standards that the zoning ordinance has set for
Conditional Use Permits. It would not be harmonious and
appropriate in appearance with the existing and /or intended
character of the general vicinity. By allowing the building
to remain there it would intensify the problem. The
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applicant can consider a new plan and submit it for the
board's review. Mr. Irwin seconded the motion and the motion
was approved with King abstaining.
Mr. Prokop asked the applicant to look at the design, improve
the plan and he would be welcomed back to the board.
REFERRAL OF ACCESSORY BUILDING SIZE ISSUE FROM THE CITY
COUNCIL MEETING OF NOVEMBER 27, 1989
On November 8th, Elwin Klimek appeared before the planning
and zoning board and requested either a variance or a zoning
ordinance amendment to allow him to erect a 2,000 sq. ft.
accessory building on property where he is limited to a 1,600
square foot structure.
The boardmembers advised Mr. Klimek that he did not meet the
required findings of fact to permit granting of a variance
and that the board members have considered changing the
ordinance regarding accessory buildings in the past and
decided to leave the ordinance as is.
Mr. Klimek went to the city council on November 27th and the
council members asked for three things from the board:
* Review Klimek's request
* Review the accessory building sizes in all
districts.
* Make a determination of the reasons for using the
different sizes in the different zones.
In the meantime the building official has the structure red
tagged.
The board discussed the series of events that led the P &Z to
the decision to leave the accessory building ordinance as is.
The issue was brought to the council level, the council
brought it back to the P &Z asking for further change, and it
was dropped at that time.
Mr. Chase said that he has an open mind and is willing to
look at possible changes in the ordinance.
Mr. King felt that the board should stick to the original
ordinance. Sally Kuether agreed with Mr. King.
Mr. Irwin stated that there is some disparity with this
ordinance.
Charles Prokop said that with all the battles the board went
through over this ordinance, he doesn't want to see the board
hash it over again. He stated that you are never going to
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satisfy everyone.
Mr. Irwin stated that the public could write up a proposal
and force the P &Z board to act one way or the other.
MOTION: Mr. Chase moved that the P &Z board consider the
accessory building ordinance at the next workshop on December
30th, and then take further action at the regular P &Z meeting
in January. The building will remain red tagged until any
decisions have been made. Sally Kuether seconded the motion
and the motion was approved with Mr. Irwin voting no.
Mr. Bisel stated that if Mr. Klimek has any ideas on amending
the accessory building ordinance he should address the board
with a proposal. Mr. Bisel stressed that Mr. Klimek should
consider the entire city when writing his proposal.
Mr. King moved to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Chase seconded
the motion. Meeting adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
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