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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/10/1988 P&Z Minutes• • PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 Chairman Dave Cody called to order the regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board at 7:00 p.m. Wednesday, February 11, 1988. Board members present: Chairman Cody, Nelson, Averbeck and Irwin. Board members absent: Prokop, Joyer and Crohn. Also present were City Planner - John Miller, Building Inspector - Pete Kluegel., City Administrator -- Randy Schumacher, City Engineer - Ron Stahlberg, Council members - Bill Bohjanen, and Harold Bisel, and Secretary - Connie Husby. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES: Averbeck requested a correction in minutes. Her name was left out of those present at the January 13th meeting. Irwin also requested a correction: Second to the last page of the minutes, instead of page 2 it should say page 3. Also, down three lines of the same page - Floor Area Rquirements, should say Re- Subdivision Requirements. Also, Page 10 - the first line on the page - An added note for Re- Subdivision should read maximum density. Also, same page - number 7B, 7D, and 7C should be deleted. MOTION: Averbeck moved to accept the minutes of the January 13th meeting as amended. Joyer seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously. At 7:14 Joyer and Elmer Crohn joined the meeting. Chairman Cody welcomed Mr. Crohn as the newest member appointed to be on our Planning and Zoning Board. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN: Open Floor Nomination - Nelson nominated Cody again for Chairman. Joyer seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously. Dave Cody was elected to serve as Chairman on the Planning and Zoning Board for 1988. ELECTION OF VICE CHAIRMAN: Open Floor Nomination - Averbeck nominated Nelson for Vice Chairman. Joyer seconded the motion and the motion was carried uananimously. Cheryl Nelson was elected to serve as Vice Chairman on the Planning and Zoning Board for 1988. PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 OPEN MIKE: John MacDonald - Centerville Lake Association - Some of Mr. MacDonalds concerns were: 1) the quality of the water 2) the lack of fish in the lake. 3) Lakeview Addition and 4) culvert between Peltier Lake and Centerville Lake. Chairman Cody thanked Mr. MacDonald for sharing his concerns. Prokop joined the meeting at 7:17 p.m. REQUEST FOR SKETCH PLAN REVIEW FOR EL REHBEIN AND SON FOR LAKES ADDITION NO. 9 El Rehbein and Son Inc. owns approximately 18.5 acres of land on Birch Street formerly known as Lakes Addition No. 7. The land was origianally subdivided for the construction of quadraminiums. Recently Lino Lakes approved the resubdivision of a portion of Lakes Addition No. 7 creating six single- family residential lots adjacent to Black Duck Drive. The applicant is interested in re- platting the remainder of Lakes Addition No. 7 for the construction of single - family homes. He is asking the Planning and Zoning Board to review this sketch plan prior to his submittal of a preliminary plat. Mr. Joyer stepped down from the board to present the sketch plan. * Chairman Cody questioned what the plans were for Outlot B. Joyer replied it would continue to be green space. The area would be controlled from the home owners association. It will be a walk -on type of access. They want to preserve the area as green space. Timing on the project - Joyer would like to come to the next Planning and Zoning meeting with a preliminary plat. * "Exception" next to Outlot A - There is a possibility of arranging a trade with the property, creating two lots. However, there is no agreement at this time. * Walkways - between lots 1 and 14 - Block numbers are missing on plans. It was suggested to have a walkway to allow access to the shopping area. This could be an PAGE 2 • PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 easement for utilities to get back to the homes. There was discussion regarding the lot size regarding minimum requirements. It's a non cul -de -sac area. Lots should be a minimum of 75 feet wide. Joyer thought the curves on the roads were like cul - -de -sacs. This should all be worked out our City Planner - John Miller. There was general discussion: * Double frontage lots - 6 lots backed up to Birch Street * Questions answered at the next meeting regarding the City Engineers letter of February 5th. * Check with the DNR regarding outlot B • No official action taken on this and Jeff Joyer will be back next month with a preliminary plat. • REQUEST FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR JOE SPETZMAN FOR PROPERTY AT 8141 LAKE DRIVE, APPLICATION 88 -03. At the January meeting, the Planning and Zoning Board considered requests from Joe Spetzman for a lot split to create a two acre industrial lot. That request was subsequently approved by the City Council based on the Planning and Zoning Boards recommendation. Spetzman also asked for a variance as the pole barn he had constructed on the land would have only a 60 foot side yard setback instead of the ordinance required 75 feet. This was approved by the City Council. Mr. Spetzman brought a petition from everyone who abuts him property. The petition stated the neighbors do not have a problem with Mr. Spetzman using his building for custom wood products manufacturing. The main issue the Planning and Zoning had was with the Lighting and the Signage. Mr. Spetzman has to be consistant to the ordinance. MOTION: Prokop recommended to the City Council approval of site plan review for Joe Spetzman industrial property 8141 Lake Drive - Application 88 -03 for the reason it meets all the requirements necessary for the particular application. • • PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 Prokop made an editorial addition: All lighting and signage for use of the property be according to the zoning requirement for light industrial land. Irwin seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously. There was an amendment to the application: Joe Spetzman said there would be confusion with three addresses. Chairman Cody amended application to read 8145 Lake Drive. REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT FOR MABEL CARDINAL FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 80TH STREET AND I -35E, APPLICATION 88 -04. Mabel Cardinal owns a forty acre parcel of land at the intersection of 80th Street and 35E that she wishes to subdivide into four ten -acre pieces. The subdivision would allow the sale of the land benefiting Mrs. Cardinal's children. Tom Cardinal represented Mrs. Cardinal at this meeting. MOTION: Ms. Nelson recommended to City Council approval of the lot split for Mabel Cardinal property located at 80th Street and I- -35E Application 88 -04 subject to these conditions: * The Applicant provides various easements for 80th Street. * Park dedication fee of $1600 be paid * Separate deeds for new parcel will be prepared, stamped by the City Clerk and recorded at the Anoka County Court house. Averbeck seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously. REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT FROM ANOKA COUNTY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT T.H. 49 AND COUNTY ROAD 53, APPLICATION 88 -05. Anoka County wishes to purchase 10.37 acres from the State of Minnesota. The land is now part of the Correctional Facility and is the site of two cottages. The property is in the northeast corner of the state's land at the intersection of County Road 53 and T.H. 49. The county is presently renting the cottages. • • PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 Tony Palumbo represented Anoka County. They have been leasing two cottages on the corner of 4th Avenue and Lilac Street and now wish to purchase the land. MOTION: Nelson recommended the City Council approve the request of the County of Anoka for a Minor Subdivision of certain land located at Lino Lakes Correctional facility Application 88 -05, action to be contingent on an acceptable agreement to both parties relative to the administration fee. Crohn seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously. REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR LAKE VIEW SUBDIVISION (KENT ROESSLER), APPLICATION 87 -32. No action was taken on this in January because the Rice Creek Watershed approval had not been obtained. Residents at the January meeting raised questions about sewer capacity, drainage and water quality. In addition Ron Stahlberg had these concerns. 1. Rear lot dimensions are missing on lots 6, 7, 16 and 17. 2. Storm sewer for Area No. 2 is to be centered on the easement. 3. Silt fence is to be installed on top of the bank, not from the bottom of the ditch. 4. The weir detail to be used on the project is to be provided. A detail for informational purposes only is not acceptable. Also noted was that the street name Lakeview Circle was unacceptable as it was too similar to Lake View Drive. The weir detail is to be a requirement for construction. The street name shall be LaMotte Circle. John Miller stated a variance is required because of the length of LaMotte Circle. The maximum length permitted is 500 feet and the length is more than 700 feet. NEIGHBORS COMMENTS: Bill Brown - 6900 LaMotte Drive, PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 Last house of the dead end street. Creek runs by house - he is concerned that his yard will be flooded by water. Ron Stahlberg - The proposed ditch grade will be three to four feet below Bill Brown's land. There will be no effects of Bill Brown's property. Glen Simonson - 1566 LaMotte Drive - His concern was the cul - -de -sac. According to Simonson the road is really a 1/2 mile long cul -de -sac. He said the road will be a problem with all the hauling that will be done on it. Ron Stahlberg contacted Metro Waste Control Commission and they checked out the sewer and said it has been adequate for the area. There shouldn't be any problem with the additional 17 homes going in. Simonson had some additional concerns: * Value of homes if plat is put in - concerned about decreasing value of his home. * Increased traffic by his property. No sidewalk - children walk on road. * Make different access to development. Mike Mastro - 1553 LaMotte Drive - Mastro's concerns were: * Traffic problem - running 1/2 mile road where there was a dead end. * Water problems - high water problem - Nobody wants to get flooded out * Setbacks on homes - driveways - 50 feet deep John McDonald - 6901 LaMotte Drive - MacDonald's concerns were: * Snow removal - Where is the City of Lino Lakes going to put the snow? Prokop had some concerns also: * Concerned about the quality of the ground? * Kind of road it might be PAGE 6 • • PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 * Status of LaMotte Drive regarding heavy duty equipment coming in. Will roadway have to be rebuilt in a couple of years? Ron Stahlberg couldn't answer the question regarding the roads, but he said the road does not meet the present standards. Steve Anderson - 1582 LaMotte Drive - Anderson's concern was: * You can dig anywhere and hit water three feet down. Jim Hines - 6918 LaMotte Drive - Hine's was concerned with: * The City made him dig six to eight feet down and replace it with sand. Mr. Kent Roessler said the soil problems will be corrected. The homes in this area will be financed by FHA, an agency that has very strict rules for approval of the housing. Mike Mastro - 1553 LaMotte Drive - He said he bought his property 11 years ago and he had a good road then. When the developer is done the road will be torn up again. Are the owners going to be assessed $3,000 or more for road repairs? MOTION: Prokop moved that a verbal application by Kent Roessler at this meeting for a variance to a cul- -de -sac on the plats entitled Lake View Place, the cul -de -sac on the specific plat is 290 feet longer than the allowable permitted length in the ordinance be granted a variance for the following reasons: 1. The developer acted in good faith and the question of the length of the Cul -de -sac wasn't mentioned until this Planning and Zoning meeting. 2. Six findings of fact that need be made according to the zoning ordinance appear to be met. The platting is the best usage. The plat of the land owner is due to the circumstances unique to the property to wit the location surrounded by i.e. lack of roadway, St. Paul waterworks easements. Property useage is reasonable to the east if variance is granted. 3. The plight of the land is not due to economic reasons • • • PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 alone. 4. There will be no special privilege at this time. The applicant will comply with the proposed new zoning ordinance. 5. The use of the property in this manner will not unreasonably diminish the adjoining property owners value. The developer is agreeing to upgrade the size of his homes in compliance with zoning ordinance amendments pending before the City Council. 6. The proposed variance meets with the spirit and the intent of the ordinance. Joyer senconded this motion. The motion was passed with Averbeck and Irwin voting no. MOTION: Prokop moved that action be taken by Kent Roessler within 5 working days to get an application submitted for a variance. Nelson seconded the motion and the motion passed with Irwin voting no. PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL: MOTION: Nelson recommended to the council a variance for the property defined as Lakeview Place with an application to be submitted within 5 business days requesting the variance from the double frontage provisions of our ordinance. The basis for this particular variance was outlined in the previous motion by Prokop relative to the cul -de -sac. Prokop seconded this motion and the motion passed with Irwin voting no. MOTION: Prokop recommended to the council adoption of this preliminary plat and that the developers comply with the pending larger house sizes as follows: 3 Bedroom Rambler 1050 sq. ft. 2 tt 980 sq. ft. 1 1/2 Story 980 sq. ft. Split Foyer /Entry 980 sq. ft. 2 Story 850 sq. ft. All dwellings shall have a double garage. * Also, that the variance be finalized on paper within 5 working days. PAGE 8 • • • PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 * The baffled weir detail indicated as a note will be the weir design for the project * Recommendations from the City Planner and the City Engineer be followed. The developer also indicated he would abide by setbacks as they now exist. Also the name of the street will be changed from Lakeview Circle to LaMotte Circle. Nelson seconded the motion. More discussion followed and the motion carried four to three with Nelson, Averbeck and Irwin voting no. REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT FOR KEN LUNDGREN FOR PROPERTY LOCATED NEAR HOLLY DRIVE. APPLICATION 87 -33 REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO REDUCE LOT FRONTAGE, APPLICATION 87 -34. This item was tabled from the January meeting pending 1) Additional information including location of a ghost plat for the future subdivision of the land and 2) Clarification of the method of subdividing the land. There was general discussion regarding this lot split. MOTION: Nelson moved to recommend approval to the City Council regarding the metes and bounds subdivision application 87 -33 as presented with the following conditions: * If the 330 foot easement location to be determined by the City Planner and City Engineer be granted along the common lot line between D and E to be used presently as driveway access and for future utility roads. Averbeck seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously. Through the granting of the easement there are no requirements for a variance regarding the frontage requirements. DISCUSSION OF ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO PERMIT AND CONTROL THE TEMPORARY PARKING OF TRUCKS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. Section 8 of the city's zoning ordinance provides regulations for parking of cars and trucks in the city's several zoning districts. Subdivision 5 of that section states: PAGE 9 • • PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 "Motor vehicle parking in residential areas. No motor vehicle exceeding a gross weight of 11,075 pounds shall be parked or stored in a residential district except when loading, unloading, or rendering a service." This prohibits the parking of semi - trailers and tractors at the residence of the owner. It also prohibits the parking of dump trucks in residential areas. The City Planner suggested that if the city wished to allow parking in these areas it might do so with the following conditions: A. The unit shall not be parked for more than 72 hours. B. The unit shall be parked behind the front of the dwelling C. The unit shall not interfere with neighbors' views of the street. D. There is a minimum of 150 feet from the unit to the nearest lot line. E. The unit shall remain connected. F. Neighbors form each side, in front, and in back do not object to the unit being parked. G. Parking permits to be reviewed on an annual basis. Mike Weltch - He came before the Planning and Zoning Board to say he operates dump trucks and he maintains his trucks at home. He's considering construction of a garage for his trucks. Weltch said his trucks don't run at night so they wouldn't bother anybody. MOTION: Prokop moved that John Miller get a copy of other situations that exist and bring it back to the Planning and Zoning Board at a future meeting. Also, that John Miller prepare a draft ordinance to permit truck parking for the next Planning and Zoning meeting. Averbeck seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously. • • • PLANNING AND ZONING FEBRUARY 10, 1988 Chairman Cody suspended agenda items # 10 & 12 until a future Planning and Zoning meeting when there is a lighter agenda. OLD BUSINESS: After much discussion the Planning and Zoning Board recommended to the City Council the following changes in the proposed R -1 minimum standards. MOTION: Nelson moved to recommend to the City Council they consider in the Rl and the R1 executive zone the square footage requirements reflect the minimum lot dimension multiplied out: 80 X 135 = 10,800 90 X 135 = 12,150 Joyer seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously. NEW BUSINESS: Nelson suggested more than one meeting a month with these long agenda's. Chairman Cody adjourned the Planning and Zoning meeting at 11:05 p.m.. PAGE 11