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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/14/1988 P&Z Minutes• • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD September 14, 1988 Chairperson Dave Cody called the regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board to order at 7:05 P.M., Wednesday, September 14, 1988. Board members present included: Chairperson Cody and members: Elmers Crohn, Charles Prokop, Arine Averback, Jeff Joyer and Alan Irwin. Also present were Harold Bisel, City Councilman; Ron Stahlberg, City Engineer; Pete Kluegel, City Building Inspector; and John Miller, City Planner. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES: It was moved by Mr. Prokop and seconded by Mr. Crohn to approve the minutes with the correction of several typographical errors. Mr. Irwin asked amendment of the motion to include: 1. Page 1. Change the sentence "The plan will show the acquisition and redevelopment of these properties..." to "The plan will show the redevelopment and /or acquisition of these properties..." 2. Page 5. Change the first sentence of the fourth paragraph from "Section 8 (1) (C) (i) (b) (a)..." to Section 8 (1) (C) (iii) (a) and (b)... "_ 3. Page 5. Change the first sentence of the seventh paragraph from "Chairman Cody recommends a variance on all of these issues based on subdivision 7..." to "Chairman Cody recommends a variance on all of these issues based on Section 5 subdivision 7..." 4. Page 6. Change line ten of the first paragraph from "...to facilitate road construction on the west bound and north bound." to "...to facilitate road construction on the west side and north side." 5. Page 7. Change the last line of the last paragraph from "knowingly purchased residential land changed its use..." to "...knowingly purchased residential land and changed its use..." 6. Page 9. Change the first sentence of the first paragraph in section I from "...the current language in section (4) (6), subdivision 7 - section (4) (9), • subdivision 7 - section (4) (11), subdivision 7 and adding..." to "...the current language in section 4 Page 1 • • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD September 14, 1988 subdivision 7 (6), section 4 subdivision 7 (9), section 4 subdivision 7 (11) and adding..." Mr. Prokop and Mr. Crohn accepted the amendments and the motion to approved as amended and carried unaminously. OPEN MIKE: No persons appeared to speak before the board. CHANGE OF MEETING DATE: City Engineer Ron Stahlberg explained that G.M. Development (Gary Uhde) was asking for a change in the October meeting date from October 12th to Octobeer 5th. This request would allow G.M. Development to present the plat for South Reshanau Lake Estates III to the Planning and Zoning Board with City Council action on the second rather than the fourth Monday. City Planner, John Miller stated that the applicant had been forced to make revisions in previous plats because of changes required first by Rice Creek Watershed District, and then by the city's Park Board. Board member Elmer Crohn withdrew from discussion as the request would benefit his Wildwood Subdivision. It was moved by Mr. Joyer to change the October meeting date to the first Monday. Mr. Prokop seconded the motion. The motion carried with Mr. Crohn abstaining. RELOCATED STRUCTURE REQUEST FROM TERRI BRIDGES: City Planner, John Miller explained that the applicant wishes to purchase a 2 1/2 acre lot in the vicinity of Main Street and 4th Avenue. In addition, a request has been made to permit a house to be moved to the site. The city's Building Inspector, Peter Kluegel, has viewed the house which is presently located in the city of Hugo. It is a 1 1/2 story structure with an area of 1008 square feet. Mr. Kluegel estimates the house is approximately 20 years old. The city planner listed the following recommendations as conditions for permitting the move in. 1. Construction of a mound septic system 2. Updating of all windows 3. Installation of new siding Page 2 PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD September 14, 1988 4. Construction of a two car garage 5. Updating of all plumbing, heating, and electrical systems to meet current code 6. Location of dwelling on the lot so that future resubdivision is possible The board members were concerned about the site and the high water table found in the lot. The applicant stated she intended to place a full basement under the structure. Mr. Joyer stated that would require the basement floor to be constructed near the surface and the hauling of fill . material to cover the basement walls. He stated this would be extremely costly. Board member Averback was concerned with a guarantee that the work would be completed having seen other move -in dwellings where site improvements were not completed. The city engineer recommended a 3:1 or 4:1 slope. During the discussion of the guarantees the applicant began leaving. Chairperson Cody asked if she was withdrawing her application. She stated she was. No further action was taken by the board. DISCUSSION OF CITIZEN SURVEY AND IMPLEMENTATION OF RECOMMENDATIONS: The city planner explained that the consultant who completed the citizen survey presented his findings to the city's different boards and commissions on August 2nd. As a result of the discussion that followed the consultant's presentation, there was a request by Mayor Benson that the boards and commissions place an item on their agendas' allowing discussion of the survey. The Mayor asked that recommendations be considered that would implement the findings of the survey. The members discussed the survey at length. However, no recommendations for changing procedures or city requirements were made. CONSIDERATION OF CONCEPT PLAN FOR WOODRIDGE ESTATES II. The city planner presented the concept plan submitted by Carlson, Dropps Associates for Woodridge II, a single- family residential development located in Section 31. The planner Page 3 • • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD September 14, 1988 explained that problems with overall drainage and with park land and park trails remained to be solved. It was also stated by the planner that because of the rolling topography of the land, the wetland areas, and the waterworks easement through the property, that a planned unit development could be justified. The concept plan showed some lots measuring less than the 13,825 square feet required in the R -1X district. The applicant was agreeable to building to R -1X standards. Board member Joyer stated the PUD concept was a method to circumvent the R -1X requirements. Mr. Irwin did not like the narrow lots. Mr. Prokop didn't like the PUD concept and wanted the subdivision coordinated with Woodridge I. Mr. Prokop felt the road location was poor and questioned the dead -end streets. At 8:20 p.m. board member Nelson arrived. The board members agreed that 1) R -1X lot sizes should be maintained, 2) a drainage plan completed for the area, 3) park issues be resolved by the Park Board, and 4) turn- around issues be resolved. DISCUSSION OF WOODRIDGE ESTATES I PRELIMINARY PLAT: The city planner and the city engineer presented this informational item. Issues included park land and an overall drainage plan for the area. Pete Rosenthal, developer of Rohavic Oaks, was present and stated that traffic from the proposed subdivision would enter Rohavic Oaks. Dave Vickers, a partner in Rohavic Oaks, suggested eliminating the north road serving as an exit from Woodridge. He questioned why the city was favoring this developer. Boardmember Nelson stated the road was needed for safety reasons providing more than one point of ingress and egress to the site. Mr. Joyer stated the road was needed to tie the neighborhoods together. Mr. Prokop stated it was necessary to extend and provide maintenance for utilities and for traffic flow. Mr. Irwin concurred with other members and stated a need for the north road. • • • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD September 14, 1988 The city engineer stated if the road were not constructed, another LaMotte Drive (long cul -de -sac) situation would exist. Chairperson Cody asked that Mr. Rosenthal be notified of future meeting dates when this subdivision would be discussed. REVIEW OF SITE PLAN FOR ARNT CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, APPLICATION 88 -30. Gene Arnt and Jim Zurek, representing Mr. Arnt, appeared before the board. The applicants wish to construct a masonry building for the purpose of equipment storage. The structure would measure 80 x 120 feet. Building details include the following: 1. Exterior - Rock face concrete block painted brown. The adjacent Acton building has a similar exterior and color. 2. Screening- Berm with 2 rows of six foot pine trees planted ten feet on center. 3. Garage Doors 4. Drainage - Doors will not be visible from the street, they will face east. - An easement for ponding has been given to the city. The plan has been approved by Rice Creek Watershed District. The city engineer stated that the site plan did not show the location of the well and the drainfield nor was a drainage plan submitteed for his review. The city planner asked for a landscaping materials list. The applicants asked that the city's requirement for a hard - surfaced storage area (east of the new building) be waived. In turn they were agreeable to entering into an agreement with the city to remove the metal -clad building located on the north side of the Arnt property. They asked for ten years use before removal. The planner recommended five. Chairperson Cody asked if the applicant would accept 7.5 years. It was moved by Mr. Prokop that relative to its review of the site plan for Arnt Construction, Application 88 -30, the Page 5 • • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD September 14, 1988 Planning and Zoning Board find the site plan acceptable with the following stipulations. 1. Well and drainfield locations be shown. 2. Number and naming of landscaping materials 3. Drainage plan approved by the city engineer 4. Waiver of blacktopping requirement (based on nature of use with heavy track laying equipment) for storage area. 5. Agreement prepared by city attorney to remove or modifiy to current specifications a metal -clad building within 7.5 years. Mr.Irwin seconded the motion, motion passed with Prokop, Irwin, Crohn, Joyer, and Cody voting yes. Ms. Nelson and Ms. Averback voted no. Ms. Nelson and Ms. Averback cited aesthetic concerns with the pitch roof building in the L -I zone. They also felt the building should be amortized over five years and removed. DISCUSSION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WILDWOOD SUBDIVISION: Elmer Crohn, developer of Wildwood, removed himself from the board for discussion of this item. Mr. Crohn explained a revision in his plat to accommodate a request from the Park Board for land. He showed a five acre parcel near the east side of the plat as being used for park purposes. Mr. Crohn also discussed access to Main Street and the problems with the power line easement on the south part of the land. City Engineer, Ron Stahlberg questioned what soils work had been completed and asked about the drainage plan. There was considerable discussion regarding the pipeline easement and drainage. Mr.Stahlberg also asked about mechanisms for controlling house locations and eventual replatting of the area when sewer becomes available. Ms.Nelson stated that at least one lot at the southeast corner of the lot was unbuildable. Mr.Irwin asked Clarence Sharpen if the access shown to his property from Mr. Crohn's land was adequate. Page 6 • • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD September 14, 1988 Mr.Irwin stated that if the land were platted for R -1 uses that it would yeild about 250 lots. However, going from 2 1/2 acre lots to small lots and with this configuration only 150 lots are shown. Mr. Irwin thought this was a waste of land. It was suggested by boardmember Irwin that a different approach of platting be considered. He recommended platting small lots, but allowing construction in only a few of them in order to meet the SR -X density. Mr.Stahlberg was also concerned about the high water table in the area. He stated a mound system for septic tanks would be needed. He also felt the pipeline provided a serious design problem. Mr. Stahlberg suggested replatting be considered. Mr. Joyer asked about soil borings. The board took no action on this discussion item. OLD BUSINESS: Mr.Irwin raised the accessory building issue and considerable discussion followed. At issue was the relationship between zoning district and building size. Chairperson Cody asked the City Council to return the item to the board for further review. ADJOURNMENT: At 10:02 P.M. Ms. Averback moved the meeting adjourn. Ms. Nelson seconded and the motion passed unaminously.