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Home My WebLink About10/05/1988 P&Z MinutesPLANNING AND ZONING BOARD October 5, 1988 Chairperson Dave Cody called the regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board to order at 7:05 p.m., Wednesday, October 5, 1988 at the Lino Lakes City Hall. Boardmembers present included: Chairperson Cody and members: Charles Prokop, Alan Irwin, Jeff Joyer, Elmer Crohn, Arlene Averback, and Cheryl Nelson. Also Present were: City Planner - John Miller, City Engineer - Ron Stahlberg, Building Official - Peter Kluegel, and Secretary - Laura Elken. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES: It was moved by Jeff Joyer and seconded by Averback to approve the minutes with the following corrections: pg. 3 - the bottom line the word "section" is misspelled. pg. 4 - 6th paragraph, the word "proposed" is misspelled. pg. 6 - 7th paragraph, should state L -I instead of I -1. Joyer and Averback accept the amendments and a motion was made to approve the minutes as amended. OPEN MIKE: Dan and Renee Allie made a request to subdivide a four acre R -1 parcel into two - acre parcels. After discussing frontage requirements and requirements under the R -1 zone, the Planning and Zoning Board stated that persons cannot subdivide anything under 10 acres in an R -1 zone unless there is city sewer. No action was taken. CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SOUTH RESHANAU LAKE ESTATES FOR G.M. DEVELOPMENT, APPLICATION 88 -33. Greg Kopischke described the plat to the board, TKDA has received grading plans for phase 3 of South Reshanau Lake Estates. Page 1 • • • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD October 5, 1988 After considerable discussion a motion was made. MOTION: Cheryl Nelson moved to recommend to the City Council approval of Reshanau Lake Estates South - third addition conditional upon the developer meeting all the old R -1 requirements, including the following information for the City Engineer: 1. Location of catch basins and storm sewers. 2. Hydraulic computations for the storm sewers. 3. A cost estimate for grading to include approximate quantities for tree removal, and cubic yards of excavating. This will be needed for the grading permit. Prokop seconded the motion and the motion was approved with Alan Irwin voting No. RE- CONSIDERATION OF INITIATION OF REZONING FOR HARVEY CHEESBROUGH. Mr. Cheesbrough was not present at the meeting - this item is tabled until the board meets in November. REVIEW OF REVISED EDC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR REZONING CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES. The board felt Lino Lakes does need more commercial and industrial zoned areas in the City. After much discussion a motion was made. MOTION: Arlene Averback recommended to Council the acceptance of the September 21, 1988 rezoning recommendation made by the Economic Development Committee with the exceptions of the following areas: 1. "S- R /R -1" residential land south of 77th street and north of the VFW club site. This area is recommended for "S -R" Suburban Residential zoning. 2. S -R triangle south of Oak Lane, East of Carole's Page 2 • • • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD October 5, 1988 Estates, and north of I -35W. This area recom- mended for "R" Rural zoning. In the future if a large commercial or industrial user wanted these parcels, zoning could be considered at that time. Boardmember Nelson 2nd the motion and the motion was carried unanimously. COSNSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT OF WOODRIDGE ESTATES FOR CARLSON, DROPPS, AND ASSOCIATES, APPLICATION 88 -28. There was a large group of people to state their opinions on this proposal. Mr. Vickers wanted to know why we have to put the road to the north? Prokop stated that there is a need for that road - for emergency reasons. This road wouldn't generage heavy traffic. Bob Lichtcheidel asked where are the water and sewer lines, are they coming from the lift station? Rick Piper from Oakwood Drive asked what the value of the lots would be in this R -1X area. Dave Cody stated this is Single Family Executive housing area - $115,000 to $120,000 minimum value. Chairman Cody suggested staff put together a memorandum and give copies to Mr. Vickers and have him hand the memorandum out to the concerned residents. MOTION: Alan Irwin moved to table the preliminary plat because there is no public access. This preliminary plat had been revised and the board has not had adequate time to review. Prokop seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously. REVIEW OF MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR MARCELINO AND REFUGIA LOPEZ, APPLICATION 88 -31. Page 3 • • • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD October 5, 1988 Renee Johnson spoke for Mr. and Mrs. Lopez and asked the board if this is approved or not. After some discussion a motion was made. MOTION: Cheryl Nelson moved to table this item until Mr. and Mrs. Lopez revise their resubdivision plan moving the road out of the wetlands. Prokop seconded the motion and all in favor with the exception of Alan Irwin opposing. REVIEW OF MINOR SUBDIVISION (lot combination) FOR CHESTER AND CECELIA LAROCQUE, APPLICATION 88 -32. Mr. and Mrs. LaRocque were not at the meeting. Mr. Prokop moved to table this item until the board meets in November. Averback seconded the motion and the motion was carried. REVIEW OF MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR EMMETT SALBERG, APPLICATION 88 -34. The board feels there should be changes on Mr. Salberg's resubdivision plan before the board approves the minor subdivision. Irwin suggested the following changes: 1. Curved Streets 2. More depth from the freeway 3. No half- streets 4. Have a ponding area included Boardmember Nelson stated she doesn't like accepting "ghost plats ", this could haunt us in the future. Someone could go ahead with this plat on the basis that "It was approved by the P &Z ". She stated we should make the plat right in the beginning, and forget the ghost plats. Pete Kluegel, Building Official stated there should be a buffer, there has to be an extra 10 foot set back for the lots adjacent to the freeway. Page 4 PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD October 5, 1988 MOTION: Prokop moved to table this item until next month and City Planner, John Miller will meet with Mr. Solberg regarding his plat. Nelson seconded the motion and all in favor except Jeff Joyer who opposed. REVIEW OF CONCEPT PLAN FOR A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION IN SECTION 25 FOR MAURICE MCCOLLAR. The board reviewed this item and felt there will have to be several changes before approval. 1. If there is to be less than 2 1/2 acre lots, the P &Z board would have to issue a variance based on hardship to the land. 2. The board was not in favor of allowing a long cul -de -sac. 3. This area is in need of a park. The applicant would have to meet with the Park Board regarding this issue. 4. There needs to be two accesses to this subdivision. This item is tabled until the owner revises his concept plan. CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT OF WILDWOOD ESTATES - ELMER CROHN, APPLICATION 88 - 29. City Engineer, Ron Stahlberg presented a topography map, color coded to show wetlands. He stated that this area is very low and there are several septic systems that have failed in this area. The lots need mound septic systems to be buildable. Alan Irwin stated the board has to red flag this. People must be told when buying lots that they will have to hook up to City sewer when available. Boardmember Nelson feels that there are too many narrow lots in this subdivision. MOTION: Prokop moves to table this item and Mr. Crohn is asked to plat his land into single family lots and place Page 5 • PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD October 5, 1988 covenents on some of the lots stating the lots are not buildable until sewer and water is available. Averback seconded the motion and the motion was carried. Boardmember Prokop moved to postpone other agenda items until the board meets in November. Averback seconded the motion and the motion was carried. Meeting adjourned 11:13 p.m. •