HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/09/1988 P&Z MinutesPLANNING AND ZONING BOARD November 9, 1988
Chairperson Cheryl Nelson called the regular meeting of the
Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board to order at 7:04 p.m.
Wednesday, November 9, 1988 at the Lino Lakes City Hall.
Boardmembers present include: Chairperson Cheryl Nelson,
Alan Irwin, Jeff Joyer, Elmer Crohn, and Arlene Averback.
Also present were: Councilmember, Harold Bisel; City
Planner, John Miller; City Engineer, Ron Stahlberg; Building
Official, Pete Kluegel; and Secretary, Laura Elken.
Members Absent: Dave Cody, 7:09 Charles Prokop assumed his
position.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
Pg. 1 under Open Mike, 2nd paragraph should end with
"unless there is city sewer ".
Pg. 1 3rd paragraph should read "No action was taken ".
Pg 2, 2nd paragraph instead of "meeting all the
requirements" should read "meeting all the old R -1
requirements ".
Pg 2, instead of "Motion was approved unaminously"
should read "and the motion was passed with Mr.
Irwin saying No ".
Pg. 2 paragraph 9 should read "acceptance of the
September 21, 1988 rezoning recommendation ".
Pg. 5 paragraph #1 should read "based on hardship
to the land ".
MOTION: Arlene Averback motions to accept the minutes as
amended.
Irwin 2nd the motion and the motion was approved unamiously.
OPEN MIKE
No one appeared under open mike.
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RECONSIDERATION OF INITIATION OF REZONING FOR HARVEY
CHEESBROUGH (FROM TABLE OF 10/5/88).
Cheesbrough's land covers 7.5 acres at the northwest
quadrant of Lilac Street and Fourth Avenue.
Mr. Cheesbrough purchased his property knowing it was zoned
for single- family use. He is now running a dispatch
operation out of his home.
Cheesbrough is asking the Board to rezone his property to
Light Industrial (L -I).
Cheesbrough has removed all but one truck and trailer from
his residence while this rezone is being considered. He has
been issued a permit for the remaining truck and trailer.
City Planner, John Miller stated the city had the following
two options:
1. Legitimize Cheesbrough's industrial use
of the land by initiating the rezoning.
2. Require that Cheesbrough use the land as
it was at the time of his purchase, i.e.
single family residential. Direct the
city's zoning ordinance.
Irwin suggested rezoning 165' of his property. Irwin also
noted that his property would have to be zoned General
Industrial (G.I.) to allow for trucks to be stored and
used.
The Board felt that Mr. Cheesbrough may petition for a
rezone, but that the members did not look upon this
favorably. There was some sentiment for a home occupation
permit.
If Mr. Cheesbrough meets the home occupation requirements
the zone could remain Single Family Residential and a permit
may be issued for a home Based business.
No action was taken at this time pending Mr. Cheesbroughs
decision.
CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT OF WOODRIDGE ESTATES FOR
411 CARLSON, DROPPS AND ASSOCIATES, APPLICATION 88 -28.
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The Planning and Zoning Board has approved the concept plan
for the parcels and has considered a preliminary plat
submitted for review at its October 5th meeting. Action on
the plat was tabled because in part - unanswered questions
about the roadway extending north from the plat. Other
concerns included drainage and in particular Rice Creek
Watershed Distict approval.
Mr. Bloomquist, the seller of the land, stated he has a pole
barn next to the property line. Bloomquist stated he is
willing to remove his pole barn if he is able to add a 3 -car
detached garage as an accessory building.
Under the current ordinance Bloomquist would be allowed an
800 square foot building (24 feet x 32 feet).
The members asked Mr. Bloomquist if he could have the new
building done by July 1, 1989. He stated he could. The
pole barn would be removed at that time.
Mr. & Mrs. Havlisch spoke their concerns about the
possibility of their property value dropping with the
proposed road running past their back yard.
The Board did not feel the street would lower their property
value.
Ron Stahlberg, City Engineer, will review the plat and look
at an alternate to the proposed road. Stahlberg also
suggested leaving the sewer locations as it stands even if
they do move the road.
MOTION: Arlene Averback moved to recommend to the City
Council the approval of the Preliminary Plat as recommended
by John Miller - City Planner, contingent upon the
following:
1. Completion of the comprehensive drainage plan
for section 31 by the City Engineer.
2. Approval of the plat by Rice Creek Watershed
District, Department of Natural Resources,
and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
3. Resubdivision of lot 10 with removal of the
accessory building from the Bloomquist
property building to be removed by July
1, 1989.
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4. Other recommendations found in the City
Engineers' letter of October 27, 1988.
5. The sewer be installed as indicated, but
the road be installed in an alternate area
if feasible and workable and in the
interest of economics.
Charles Prokop seconded the motion, all in favor with the
exception of Jeff Joyer voting no.
MOTION: Alan Irwin motions to recommend to the City Council
that staff be directed to obtain slope easements, drainage
easements, and rights -of -way in Section 31 to permit
development of Woodridge Estates as shown in the preliminary
plat submitted October 21, 1988.
Arlene Averback seconded the motion, all in favor except
Jeff Joyer voting No.
REVIEW OF MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR MARCELINO AND REFUGIA LOPEZ,
APPLICATION 88 -31. (FROM TABLE OF OCTOBER 5, 1988).
At the October Planning and Zoning Board meeting the request
from the Lopez's was tabled. The board requested that the
resubdivision plan be revised to remove future streets and
roads from the wetlands. There was also concern about the
grid street pattern.
A revised resubdivision plan and draft easement was
presented to the board.
After discussion a motion was made.
MOTION: Alan Irwin stated that:
Since this proposed lot split is an area zoned rural and
outside the MUSA line; and,
Since both proposed lots are in excess of 10 acres and in
excess of 330' frontage; and,
Since these 10 plus acre sites allow sufficient flexibility
in subdivisiion design and this taking of road easements
would restrict flexibility; and,
Since this taking of road easements would in fact be
approving a subdivision of blocks without having the
benefits of the data provide with a preliminary plat such as
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preparation by a professional surveyor, review by the city
engineer, comments of the park board, a grading plan and
topography; and,
Since this taking of road easements would in fact be
approving a subdivision of blocks without the required
notice to adjoining owners and without a public hearing;
and,
Since the easements to be taken are not necessary either at
this time or in the foreseeable future;
Therefore in accordance with zoning ordinance section 4
subdivision 35 (6) it is moved that the requirements for lot
split be waived.
Motion failed. Irwin & Joyer in favor, and Crohn, Averback,
Prokop and Nelson opposed.
Arlene Averback moved to recommend to City Council the minor
subdivision, Application #88 -31 as presented, changing park
to outlot.
Elmer Crohn seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unamiously.
REVIEW OF MINOR SUBDIVISON (LOT COMBINATION) FOR CHESTER AND
CECELIA LAROCQUE, APPLICATION 88 -32. (FROM TABLE OF OCTOBER
5, 1988).
The applicants own lots 5,6,7 and 8 of Auditors Subdivision
No. 100. The land is located on the east side of Lake Drive
immediately north of the VFW Club.
The LaRocque's own two dwellings on these four lots as well
as a number of accessory sheds and buildings. Currently one
of the houses is used as the LaRocque residence and the
second is a rental.
The applicants have a purchaser for the north residence.
However, the buyer wishes also to buy two accessory
buildings. The buildings measure 14 x 22 feet and 20 x 24
feet.
The house is located on lot 5 and the two sheds are on lot 6
along with half of a 40 x 72 pole barn. The applicants
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couldn't sell their buyer lot 6 without losing half of the
bigger building.
The LaRocques propose to subdivide lot 6 at a right angle to
Lake Drive. The northerly portion of the subdivided lot
would be attached to lot 5 and the southerly part of lot 6
would become part of lot 7. By doing this, the applicants
would retain ownership of the land on which the big pole
barn is located, as well as maintaining a 12.8 foot setback
from the new property line. In addition, the LaRocques
could sell the residence and the two garages. A 12 foot
plus setback would be maintained between the garages and the
new property line.
After discussion a motion was made.
MOTION: Arlene Averback moved to recommend to City Council
approval the lot combination for Chester and Cecelia
LaRocque, Application #88 -32.
Elmer Crohn seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unamiously.
CONSIDEREATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT OF LAKES ADDITION NO. 9
FOR EL REHBEIN AND SON, INC., APPLICATION 88 -35.
In July the Planning and Zoning Board considered a
preliminary plat for Lakes Addition No. 9. The plat was
based on a concept plan submitted earlier showing division
of the land into 75 foot lots. The concept plan had been
submitted to beat the enactment of increased lot width
requirements by the board and the City Council.
At the July meeting however, the boardmembers found that the
preliminary plat submitted by the applicant did not meet the
city code requirements. After the meeting the city engineer
sent a letter to the applicant listing the needed changes.
The preliminary plat currently submitted for the boards
review has met those requirements.
After discussion a motion was made.
MOTION: Charles Prokop moved to recommend to the City
Council approval of the preliminary plat for Lakes Addition
#9, Application 88 -35 with the Stipulation that lot #2,
Block #3 be designated as outlot A, a 75 foot frontage width
be approved since the concept plat was approved before the
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ordinance was changed, and be approved upon contingency of
Rice Creek Watershed District approval.
The city engineer has given his approval, Anoka Councy
Engineer will be questioned on the width of streets, and
drainage easements will be required on this plat.
Irwin seconded the motion and the motion was accepted with
Jeff Joyer abstaining.
REQUEST FROM EL REHBEIN AND SONS INC., FOR REZONING OF LAND
ON LAKE DRIVE, SOUTH OF MAIN STREET, APPLICATION 88 -36.
MOTION: Arlene Averback recommends to table this item
because of the possibility of sewer coming into this area.
Prokop seconded the motion and the motion was accepted with
Jeff Joyer obstaining.
CONSIDERATION OF A MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR GETHSEMANE UNITED
METHODIST CHURCH OF LAND NEAR 7500 LAKE DRIVE. APPLICATION
88 -37.
Recently the Methodist church wanted to make sure it had
clear title to its land. The church property has been for
sale and with interested buyers started preparations for
sale of the land. Unfortunately, the survey of the property
showed that a residence owned by Forrest Tagg was located on
the church's land. Tagg owns about 28 acres of land
adjacent to the church property where he operated a
sand - blasting business.
Tagg's house has been on the church's property for a number
of years. However, rather than go to court over the
ownership issue, the church and Tagg have agreed that Tagg
can have the land on which his house is located. Tagg is in
turn responsible for the fee involved in getting the land
surveyed and in transferring title.
After some discussion a motion was made.
MOTION: Elmer Crohn moved to recommend to City Council to
accept the minor subdivison for Gethsemane United Methodist
Church, Application #88 -37 as presented, and that the
smaller parcel with the house will be combined with the
parcel to the north. The Planning and Zoning Board also
recommends to City Council the possibility of vacating the
east 100' section of roadway if feasible.
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Charles Prokop seconded the motion, all were in favor with
Arlene Averback abstaining.
DISCUSSION OF ACCESSORY BUILDING AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING
ORDINANCE (FROM TABLE OF OCTOBER 5, 1988).
A resident at 4969 Sunrise Drive has a 20 x 22 garage. In
the winter and spring water drains onto his garage floor and
freezes. He would like to move his garage and then in the
future add on an attached garage.
No decision or variance was granted at this time. He would
be allowed to move his garage. The Board will act on this
when the Accessory Building Amendments to the zoning
ordinance are completed.
MOTION: Charles Prokop moved to recommend Cheryl Nelson
bring a proposed amendment regarding Accessory Buildings to
the December meeting.
Alan Irwin seconded the motion and the motion was approved
unamiously.
DISCUSSION OF VARIOUS AMENDMENTS TO THE SUBDIVISION
ORDINANCE BY THE CITY ENGINEER.
A. Maximum cul -de -sac length
After discussion a motion was made.
MOTION: Mr. Irwin moved to direct the City Planner, John
Miller, to present a text amendment to discuss the length of
cul -de -sacs.
Averback seconded the motion and was approved unamiously.
OLD BUSINESS
Wildwood Estates Update /Elmer Crohn
Elmer Crohn stepped down from the board and presented an
update on his Wildwood Subdivision.
Crohn stated he has made several revisions to his
preliminary plat. Lots 21, 22, 23, and 24 of block 2 have
been moved.
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Many residents have stated they would like to see city sewer
into this area.
Mr. Crohn feels in December of 1988 he should recieve Rice
Creek Watershed District approval.
Now Wildwood Estates consists of 190 - quarter acre lots.
The board stated the plat is improved, and feels Mr. Crohn
should proceed with platting small lots.
ADJOURN
Prokop moved to adjourn the meeting.
Elmer Crohn seconded the motion.
Meeting adjourned 10:45 p.m.
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