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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/13/1985 P&Z Agenda & MinutesAGENDA PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FEBRUARY 13, 1985 1. Call to order and roll call 2. Consideration and approval of minutes December 12, 1984 and January 9, 1985 3. Building Official's Report 4. 7:15 Apppoint Chairman and Vice Chairman 5. 7:25 Open Mike 6. 7:45 Donnell Realty A. Metes & Bounds Conveyance B. Variance Cul -de -sac Length 7. 8:15 Audrey Burque A. Metes & Bounds Conveyance 8. 8:45 Paul Tubbs A. Metes & Bounds Conveyance 9. 9 :15 Jim Landsberger A. Conditional Use Permit - Advertising Sign 10. Old Business 11. New Bulginess - Agenda items time spacing / 12. Adjourn 94 Planning and Zoning Board February 13, 1985 John McLean opened the regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board at 7:05 P.M., Wednesday, February 13. Mr. Goldade, Mrs. Klaus, Mr. Ostlie and Mr. Cody were in attendance. Mr. Prokop joined the meeting later. Mr. Doocy was absent. Also present were Mr. Schumacher, City Administrator; Mr. Kluegel, Building Official; and Mrs. Foster, Secretary. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES - December 12, 1984 & January 9, 1985 Mrs. Klaus moved to approve the minutes of December 12 including the changes suggested by Mrs. Klaus at the January 9 meeting. (Those changes have been made to the December 12 minutes as suggested in the January 9, 1985 minutes.) Mr. Goldade seconded the motion. Motion carried. Consideration of the January 9, 1985 minutes was tabled since a quorum of the January 9 attendees was not present. These minutes were considered later in the meeting, when Mr. Prokop joined the meeting. BUILDING OFFICIALS REPORT Mr. Kluegel reported that - 1) Mr. Roland Ford will appear in court on March 20 since he did not satisfactorily clean up his property as was ordered by the court last fall. 1 2) Mr. Zack Johnson has been appointed as the City Planner. There will be a transition period during this month to help Mr. Johnson take over where Barton - Ashman leaves off. 3) At the January 28 Council meeting, the Accessory Building Ordinance was approved and will be effective March' 12, 1985. 4) Also, at the January 28 Council meeting, the Council granted a temporary sign permit until December, 1985 for Mr. Larry Swistowski to display his business sign. The Planning and Zoning had heard this request at their last meeting and recommended denial of the sign permit. 5) The Council requested the Planning and Zoning Board to readdress the temporary sign issue of the sign ordinance. 6) It has come to the attention of the Building Official that the State Statute with regard to signs does not allow adver- tising in a rural area. Some billboards currently in exist- ence are grandfathered in. The State Statute supersedes the City Ordinance. This knowledge would affect number 4) above. APPOINTMENT OF CHAIRMAN AND VICE - CHAIRMAN Per the City Council's directive, the P & Z Board appointed as follows: 1 1 Planning and Zoning Board February 13, 1985 Page Two Mr. Cody moved to nominate Mr. McLean to serve as Chairman for 1985. Mr. Ostlie seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Cody moved to nominate Mr. Ostlie to serve as Vice - Chairman for 1985. Mr. Goldade seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously. OPEN MIKE There were five items to be discussed under 'Open Mike', which was added to this month's agenda for the first time. The purpose of this is to allow persons to appear before the board with questions regarding their own situations without the red tape involved. The five items discussed were as follows: Lino Video /Bright Interiors - Portable Sign - Mr. Michael Ring re- presented these businesses asking about the portable sign which they have been using to advertise their business. Mr. Kluegel has informed Mr. Ring that the ordinance no longer allows this type of sign and that it would have to be removed by February 15. The Board suggested that Mr. Ring apply for a 30 -day permit which can be issued for a temporary sign, since the sign is frozen to the ground; and after the ground thaws, the sign must be removed at which time Mr. Ring may consider a more permanent type of sign. Mr. Ring was satisfied with this suggestion. Feasibility - Body Shop - Mr. Richard Cape appeared before the Board asking whether the Board would be in favor of a small body shop (28'X32' garage) to repair minor dents and body work on a parcel in a rural area. Mr. Kluegel had said that a rezone might be necessary. The Board explained that rezoning one parcel for this use would not be a viable alternative since it would be con- sidered 'spotzoning' and that the other possibility of a variance would be considered generally only if there was a hardship of the land. The Board interpreted the ordinances relating to this type of situation and explained that the ordinance would have to be followed, Feasibility - Car Wash - Two gentlemen appeared before the Board asking how the Board would feel about the establishment ofa car wash within Lino Lakes. No location had yet been determined. The Board recommended that the gentlemen choose a location in General Business (where a car wash is a conditional use) or in an industrial district; make available some figures regarding water usage, since possibly the. water usage and storm sewer usage may warrant an area with utilities; and plan for an attractive• building. If an application were made including the above the Board would be agreeable to consider the venture. Feasibility - Oversize Garage. Mr. Dennis Wegan appeared before the Board asking how the Board would feel about him enclosing his carport which is attached to his garage. Mr. Kluegel explained that a building permit was issued to Mr. Wegan 'for a 1,000 square foot garage. Mr. Wegan put the groundwork in for a 2,000 square 95 96 Planning and Zoning Board February 13, 1985 Page Three foot pole building and now wants to enclose his carport to give him room for his snowplowing equipment. He stated that he had a physical problem with his leg and couldn't track through the snow to get to his equipment and also he felt that enclosed equipment would be easier to look at than equipment laying around his property. The Board felt that Mr. Wegan had not respected the ordinance before when he built the oversize pole building, Mr. Kluegel had red - tagged the building, and the ordinance does not make allowances for his request; therefore, the Board would not consider this request. Feasibility - Pole Building to Board, Breed, Show Horses - Mrs. Sampair appeared before the Board to ask their feelings about anagricultural building in a rural area to be used as a commercial operation to board, breed and show horses. The Board felt that this item was more than what could be handled in a 'open mike' situation and suggested that Mrs. Sampair return with a complete application for this request with all the items needed to consider this request. A stable of this type is a conditional use in a rural area. Mrs. Sampair said she, along with the help of the Building Official, would put together a package and return to the Board. Review of Open Mike - It was noted that the 'Open Mike' portion on this meeting lasted about 40 minutes and dealt with five items. Mr. McLean asked Pete to screen 'Open Mike' requests in the future and allow five minutes per item. DONNELL REALTY - METES AND BOUNDS SUBDIVISION Mr. Robert J. Meyers, Realtor appeared before the Board in a re- quest for a metes and bounds subdivision. This item is a continu- ation from last month's meeting, wherein the Board asked that Donnell Realty come back with more information than was presented. Mr. Donald Nelson, who represented Donnell Realty last month was on vacation this month and it seems that there may have been some miscommunication between the two realtors because the items which the P & Z Board requested last month were still not presented or incomplete. The Board again requested that Donnell Realty reappear with the following information: 1) Will the street on the plan be public? There are ordinances which govern this issue. 2) Per the engineer, the entrance on Holly Drive and the cul -de -sac length are unaccept- able. What other plan can be arranged? 3) What does Rice Creek Watershed say about the plan? Mrs. Klaus moved to table this item until the next meeting until the requested information is presented. Mr. Goldade seconded the motion. Motion carried. The Board took a five - minute recess at this time. 1 1 1 1 1 97 Planning and Zoning Board February 13, 1985 Page Four AUDREY BURQUE - METES AND BOUNDS CONVEYANCE Mr. Richard Kleinow, Realtor represented this item. It was noted by Mr. McLean that this request for a metes and bounds conveyance is for a parcel of property located within a square bordered by OtterLake Drive and Elmcrest, south of Cedar Street. This parcel is separated by the parcel discussed in the next agenda item by a odd - shaped 40- acre parcel. It was felt that due to the fact that there are two similar requests to consider in such close proximity, that the City Planner should be involved to set a traffic pattern for future development. It was also felt that since there is a future park area planned within this area, that the Park Board become involved in planning the whereabouts of the park area. Mr. Prokop wanted the record to show that at the time of the Comprehensive Plan update, he felt that this area should have been zoned ER because of the possibility of future development, but the Council turned down this idea. The Board discussed the survey and sketch plans, etc. for this metes and bounds conveyance request resulting in the following motion. Mr. McLean moved to table this item until a new drawing is pre- sented to more clearly define the road and the lot dimensions; until the City Planner has reviewed this item and the next agenda item with regard to future traffic patterns; until there is a topographical map and statement regarding the whereabouts of utilities and utility easements; until the Park Board has reviewed this item and the next agenda item with respect to park property. Mr. Prokop seconded the motion. Motion carried. The Board wanted to suggest to the Park Board that in this case park land be set aside rather than money dedicated in lieu of land. TUBBS REALTY - METES AND BOUNDS CONVEYANCE Mr. Paul Tubbs represented this item. Some of the discussion with regard to this agenda item took place during the earlier agenda item (Audrey Burque Metes and Bounds Conveyance). Mr. Ostlie moved to table this item until clearer dimensions for frontages on the southeast part of the property shown on the map are available; until the City Planner has reviewed this item and the earlier agenda item with regard to future traffic patterns; until there is a statement regarding the whereabouts of utilities and utility easements; until the Park Board has reviewed this item and the earlier agenda item with respect to park property. Mrs. Klaus seconded the motion. Motion carried. JAMES LANDSBERGER - ADVERTISING SIGN Mr. Landsberger did not appear to represent himself. He had appeared 98 Planning and Zoning Board February 13, 1985 Page Five last month and said he would return this month to complete his presentation. In the meantime, Mr. Kluegel has learned that the State Statute with regard to signs states that advertising in this case would not be allowed. That State Statute overrides the City Ordinance. Due to this fact, Mr. McLean moved to administratively remove this item from the agenda and to refund Mr. Landsberger's entire application fee. Mr. Goldade seconded the motion. Motion carried. Mr. Kluegel was asked to take the necessary steps to determine where our new sign ordinance does not conform to the State Statute, bring this information to the Board and the Board will then make the necessary changes. The Board also felt that the problem with the temporary sign portion of the new sign ordinance will be discussed after the above changes have been made. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES - January 9, 1985 With Mr. Prokop.in attendance at this point in the meeting, there was a quorum of the January 9 meeting attendees required to con- sider the minutes of that meeting. Mrs. Klaus moved to approve the minutes of the January 9, 1985 meeting as presented. Seconded by Mr. Cody. Motion carried. OLD BUSINESS Mr. McLean asked Mr. Kluegel to consider the following in establish- ing an agenda for future meetings: 1) List each item for discussion under the 'Open Mike' section and limit each item to five minutes; 2) Assign an appropriate time allotment for each type of request presented to the Board (example: variance 30 minutes, subdivision 60 minutes, etc.) and space the agenda using these time allot- ments; 3) Keep in mind that the regular monthly meeting should be finished by 10:00 P.M. The Board discussed the fact that they are dealing with a larger number of items as the City grows and that the three hour meeting once a month has been outgrown. The Board felt that possibly they would have to either make a cut -off after the agenda gets to a certain length in time, or have additional meetings to handle the load. No decision was made at this point as to how to handle this problem. The meeting adjourned approximately 10:00 P.M.