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Planning & Zoning Board
October 14, 1987
Chairman Cody called to order the regular meeting of the
Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board at 7:00 p.m.,
Wednesday, October 14, 1987. Board members present:
Prokop, Irwin, and Averbeck. Board members absent: McLean
and Nelson. Also present were: Mr. Kluegel - Building
Official, Mr. Miller - City Planner, Don Marier - Liaison of
City Council, and Mrs. Husby - Secretary. Mr. Joyer was
present but did not act in the capacity of a Board member.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES - September 9, 1987
Correction in Minutes: Mr. Prokop adopted the minutes with
two exceptions. 1) last page - last motion, should read
Prokop seconding the motion instead of Mr. Cody. 2) a
couple of typos. Mr. Cody made a motion for correction in
minutes as corrected. Mr. Irwin seconded the motion and the
motion was carried unanimously.
Mr. Cody said, let it be noted that Mr. McLean joined the
meeting at 7:05 p.m.
OPEN MIKE - None
BUILDING OFFICIALS REPORT: Mr. Kluegel reported the
following actions taken at the Oct. 14th Council meeting.
1) Presented the 3rd quarter building report
2) Rezone of lot north of Baldwin Lake Court from ER to R -6
approved September 28th.
3) Rezone of Outlot J from R -1 to NB approval
September 28th.
4) Comprehensive Land Use Plan and amendments approved
September 14th.
Mr. Cody said, let it be noted that Ms. Nelson joined the
meeting at 7:10 p.m.
SITE AND BUILDING PLAN - APPROVAL - GREENHOUSE WALDOCH FARMS
Jeff Joyer and Dan Waldoch: Mr. Joyer represented Waldoch
Farms who is requesting to build a 42 X 60 greenhouse at
8174 Lake Drive. This property is zoned for GB at the site
of the greenhouse and the balance of this property is zoned
Rural & ER. This property is also being used as a truck
farm.
Mr. McLean questioned future development for this area and
expressed concern regarding the multiple zoning of the farm.
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He was also concerned regarding the traffic pattern and
adequate parking. Mr. Joyer brought an aerial photo of the
site, and explained the general development is planned to be
phased in over 20 years and would include additional
greenhouse space, board & breakfast, tailor shop and
possibly other retail shops. Mr. foyer said he also wants
to move the vegetable stand from the highway.
Mr. McLean asked about the driveway going in and the parking
area. Mr. Joyer explained he wants a farm nature setting
and non -paved road. They want a farm setting atmosphere.
Mr. McLean asked if there was a plan to open the rest of the
property. Mr. Joyer said his dream is to hold the land for
70 years and the reality is to keep the property in the
family.
Chairman Cody asked the Staff Planner for his comments. Mr.
Miller responded by saying City Code required paved
driveways and parking lots in the general business district.
He also stated that barrels were not acceptable for
landscaping. The foundation plantings recommended in the
staff report would 1) Protect the building from cars and
trucks parking. 2) Provide porous surface material
reducing run off from building. 3) It would improve the
appearance of the building. Mr. Miller also noted that open
sales lots and greenhouses were permitted uses in the GB
zone. The building met all set -back requirements.
Mr. Prokop commented that because it is a GB zone the
driveway and parking area should be blacktoped.
MOTION: Mr. McLean moved to recommend to City Council
approval of the site and building plan submitted by Jeff
Joyer and Dan Waldoch for property at 8174 Lake Drive. The
structure and other site improvements are to be as shown on
plans submitted to the City of Lino Lakes in October of 1987
with the addition of:
1) Foundation plantings and edger on the north
side of the greenhouse, and
2) driveway and parking lot areas surfaced with
bituminous covering.
Mr. Prokop seconded the motion and motion was carried
unanimously.
MINOR SUBDIVISION - Mike Bailey: Application 87 -25. Mr.
Miller was unaware of Board procedure of having applicants
present. Mr. Prokop moved to take action to go ahead on
Bailey's subdivision. Ms. Nelson seconded the motion and
the motion was carried unanimously.
The applicant has determined that through a surveyor's error
or title error he and his neighbor to the west, each hold
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title to a three foot wide strip between their properties.
To rectify this and especially to get clear title, Mr.
Bailey wishes to deed the three feet to his neighbors,
Christopher and Cynthia Bernier.
The Board members were concerned about the certificate of
survey and a statement on it concerning encroachments.
MOTION: Mr. Irwin moved to table this until all questions
have been resolved and clerified. Ms. Averbeck seconded the
motion.
After considerable discussion motion and second were
withdrawn.
MOTION: Mr. McLean moved to recommend approval of minor
subdivision for Mike Bailey - Application 87 -25 contingent
upon Planner's research regarding encroachments. Mr. Irwin
seconded the motion and was carried unanimously.
MINOR SUBDIVISION - Steve Kaiser: Ernie Apitz request for a
lot split at 6524 Hodgson Road - Application 87 -26.
Again, Mr. Miller was unaware that the applicant should come
before the Board.
MOTION: Mr. Prokop moved to go ahead without Steve Kaiser
being present. Ms. Nelson seconded the motion and the
motion was carried unanimously.
Ernie Apitz's neighbor, Steve Kaiser, owns a garage that has
been determined to be partially located on Mr. Apitz's land.
Steve Kaiser is interested in purchasing a parcel of
property 12 X 238 from Mr. Apitz so that he owns the land on
which his garage is located.
Ms. Averbeck questioned whether the request would have an
affect on the zoning of the land. Mr. Prokop asked the
Planner to research this question.
MOTION: Ms. Averbeck moved to approve the 12 foot lot
split. Mr. McLean seconded this motion.
There was considerable discussion regarding the location of
the 12 feet and the parcels length.
Motion was withdrawn by Ms. Averbeck and Mr. McLean withdrew
his second.
MOTION: Mr. McLean moved to table this item pending
clerification of the certificate of survey. Ms. Averbeck
seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously.
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MINOR SUBDIVISION - Ron Birch: Application 87 -27. The
applicant owns 20 acres of land in the southeast part of
Lino Lakes on the east shore of Amelia Lake. He has
submitted an application for a minor subdivision to divide
the land into two 10 acre parcels. Each parcel is
buildable.
Mr. Birch was present, representing himself. Mr. Miller
questioned the parcel size. The land is adjacent to the
lakeshore and the elevation of the lake affects land size.
Mr. Birch contacted the DNR regarding the lakes elevation.
That department has determined the 100 year flood elevation
to be 907.1 feet above sea level. This elevation gives more
than 20 acres of land in the parcel.
MOTION: Ms. Nelson moved to recommend to the City Council
approval of a minor subdivision for Ronald L. Birch to allow
for the creation of two ten -acre parcels. Mr. McLean
seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously.
SITE AND BUILDING PLAN - FRDY Inc. Application 87 -28. Mr.
Yauk was present, representing the FRDY Corporation.
Frank Damon and Bob Youck wish to construct an addition to
the 60 X 80 concrete block building they own at 7090 Lake
Drive. The addition is planned to measure 40 X 50 feet and
will also be block construction. A stucco garage will be
removed from the site and a concrete driveway extended to
the new construction. Six parking spaces will he added.
There were questions regarding the driveway. Plans
indicated it would be gravel. Mr. Yauk said it has since
been changed to concrete. Mr. Cody was concerned about
stringing buildings together. Mr. McLean was also concerned
about parking and driveway access. Mr. Irwin requested a
more complete site plan indicating location of buildings and
other zoning ordinance requirements. Mr. Cody questioned
two principal uses on the same property.
MOTION: Ms. Averbeck recommended approval of site and
building plan for FRDY Inc. Application 87 -28 contingent
upon submittal to City Council of a revised site plan
reflecting Board concerns. Also, copies to P & Z members.
Mr. Prokop seconded the motion and the motion was carried
except for Mr. Irwin voting no.
EL REHBEIN & SON SUBDIVISION - Twilight Acres 3rd Addition
Application 87 -6: Mr. Joyer appeared representing El
Rehbein & Son to request approval of Twilight Acres 3rd
Addition.
The subdivision is located on 79th Avenue and Lake Drive,
south of Twilight 2nd Addition, the entire parcel is divided
into 4 areas. Mr. Joyer provided historical background on
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this subdivision as outlined in his letter of October 5,
1987.
Attached are letters from El Rehbein and Son Inc. requesting
that the proposed plat for Twilight Acres 3rd Addition be
placed on the October 14 agenda and outlining past events
that have affected the five acre parcel.
Board members were concerned that the plat did not meet
zoning ordinance requirements and would establish precedent
for other lot splits in the sewered area. Mr. Miller was
concerned about losing sewer available land and sewer
allocation if the plat was approved.
MOTION: Ms. Nelson moved to recommend denial of the
subdivision because it does not meet the zoning regulations
of the ER zone. Mr. McLean seconded the motion and the
motion was carried unanimously.
LAKES ADDITION #8: Rehbein and Sons Inc. request for
preliminary plat approval of Lakes Addition No. 8
Application 87 -23.
Mr. Joyer represented El Rehbein & Son and explained this is
a replat of Lakes Addition #7.
The attached preliminary plat is a revision of the
preliminary reviewed by the Planning and Zoning Board at its
September meeting. Reference should be made to the
September agenda packet for information about zoning,
comprehensive plan compliance, and adjacent land uses.
Mr. Cody asked Mr. Miller for additional comments regarding
the staff report. Mr. Miller said the following changes
were made in the plat.
1) The addition of part of Outlot A to Lot 1, Block 1.
2) Dedication of that part of Outlot A for a drainage
easement.
3) Addition of five feet in width to Lot 4, Block 1, and
to Lot 2, Block 2.
4) Move Reshanau Drive ten feet north providing extra
depth for Lot 1, Block 2.
5) Added Outlot A from Lakes Addition No. 7 to legal
description.
6) Submittal of a concept plan for the remainder of
Lakes Addition No. 7.
7) Submittal of a report from the City Engineer
regarding the plat.
Mr. McLean asked about the concept plan for the remainder of
Lakes Addition #7. Mr. Prokop stated that the conditions
and concerns the Board members had with the preliminary plat
have been satisfied.
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MOTION: Mr. Prokop moved to recommend to Council approval
of P & Z application 87 -23 approving Lakes Addition #8
subject to the stipulation that drainage easements be shown.
Mr. McLean seconded the motion and the motion was carried
unanimously.
DISCUSSION - CORNER LOT WIDTH: Mr. Irwin had asked for
further information on corner lots at the last P & Z
meeting. Mr. Miller has prepared a memorandum dated October
12th outlining what a corner lot is:
WHAT IS A CORNER LOT?
SHOREVIEW: Lot bordered on two sides by streets
VADNAIS HEIGHTS: Lot bordered on two sides by streets
WHITE BEAR LAKE: Lot located at intersection of two
streets at 135 degrees or less.
OAK PARK HEIGHTS: Lot located at intersection of two
streets at 135 degrees or less.
LINO LAKES: No definition
WHAT IS THE FRONT OF THE LOT?
WHITE BEAR LAKE: Side with the least width
LINO LAKES: No difinition
WHAT REQUIREMENTS DO OTHER PLACES HAVE?
OAK PARK HEIGHTS: Shall have additional width to meet
set backs from both streets.
ROSEVILLE: 100 foot width, 100 foot depth, 30 foot
setback from each street.
SHOREVIEW: R -1 at 115 X 130, R -2 at 100 X 130, 20
feet wider than interior lots.
VADNAIS HEIGHTS: 100 X 125 corner
WHITE BEAR LAKE: 95 foot width, 105 foot width if
adjacent to primary street
LINO LAKES: Section 1001.08 Subd. 6 (9) of the
subdivision ordinance requires corner lots to be
20 feet wider than interior lots. The R -1 single
family residence district requires a 30 foot setback
for all structures. The zoning ordinance also
requires a 40 foot setback from all collector and
arterial streets.
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MOTION: Mr. Prokop moved to have Mr. Miller prepare a text
amendment to the present subdivision code to define and
establish widths for corner lots. Ms. Averbeck seconded the
motion and the motion was carried unanimously.
AERIAL PHOTOS: At the September Planning and Zoning meeting
the Board members asked the City Council to supply aerial
photos for use in planning the development in the 2 1/2 acre
areas. Mr. Miller has submitted a memorandum dated October
9th, outlining photo sources and costs. Board members were
advised the photos would be available in 6 -8 weeks.
OLD BUSINESS: None
NEW BUSINESS: Mr. Prokop raised the question of site plan
submittals. Mr. McLean stated that site plans should follow
ordinance requirements. The Planner is to review packets to
make sure they're complete.
MOTION: Motion was made to adjourn at 10:10 p.m. by Mr.
Cody, seconded by John McLean and voting adjourned.