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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/12/1986 P&Z Minutes• • PLANNING & ZONING BOARD November 12, 1986 Chairman Doocy called to order the regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board at 7:00 P.M. Members present: Prokop, McLean, Nelson, Averbeck. Mrs. Klaus arrived at 7:12 P.M. Members absent: Cody. Building Inspector, Pete Kluegel; Planners, Johnson and Wuornos; Council member, Bisel and Clerk - Treasurer, Marilyn Anderson were also present. CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 8, 1986 Mr. Prokop moved to approve the minutes as presented. Mrs. Aver - beck seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously. OPEN MIKE No one appeared under Open Mike. BUILDING OFFICIAL'S REPORT Mr. Kluegel informed the Board of the dates for the Annual Planning Institute and recommended that some Board members attend the Decem- ber 12th or January 21st session. The following Council October 27th actions were reported: - Approved the Paul Wolters site and building plans as recommended by this Board. - Approved the Ed Vaughan minor subdivision request as recommended by this Board. - Approved the Schubert advertising sign request as recommended by this Board. Mr. Doocy asked if the building specifications ordinance has been considered by the Council. Mr. Kluegel explained that this will be addressed at the Strategic Planning Session. Mr. Bisel told the Board that their input on this matter will be requested. AMENDED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - BOB KOHL Mr. Kohl operates Bob's Auto Ranch at 6020 Hodgson Road. He is re- questing an Amended Conditional Use Permit so that he can enlarge his display area for the sales lot. He is proposing to remove and relocate a portion of the fence that now screens cars waiting for repairs and blacktop this area similar to the display lot. Mr. Kluegel explained Mr. Kohl has complied to all the conditions of his original conditional use permit and there have been no complaints about this operation. Mr. Kohl explained that his business is expanding and he wishes to enlarge his display area from approximately fifteen cars to approxi- mately sixty cars. He further explained that he would not change • • • PLANNING & ZONING BOARD November 12, 1986 Page Two the manner of his operation, just enlarge it. The only cars being repaired are cars that will be placed on the lot for sale. Repair- able cars could number twenty. He does not repair cars for cus- tomers. Mr. Prokop was concerned about water runoff from the enlarged black- top area. Mr. Kohl explained the runoff will be directed to the rear of his property via a swale along the north property line. He has a large area to accommodate this runoff. Mr. Prokop asked Mr. Kluegel to work with Mr. Kohl's contractor to assure the runoff would remain on his property. Mr. Prokop asked Mr. Kohl if repairable cars are stored for an in- definite period of time. Mr. Kohl explained he likes to keep his turn over period to two or three weeks. There are some cases where parts are not readily available or other cars hav- priority. Mr. Prokop moved to recommend approval of application #85 -35 by Robert S. Kohl for property specified in the application to in- crease the parking area as indicated in the site plan, with the stipulations that the blacktopping depth be consistent with black- top previously installed at this lot and as indicated in the origi- nal application for a Conditional Use Permit and that the slope and drainage be checked by the Zoning Official and the turn over rates of the vehicles in the storage area to be as in the original Condi- tional Use Permit ie, the average of approximately one week per vehicle and this improvement be completed by June 30, 1987. Mr. McLean seconded the motion. Mrs. Klaus commented that the display of cars for sale be confined to the blacktopped area and not spilled out onto the grass. Mr. Prokop accepted this comment as an addition to his motion. Voting on the motion, motion carried unanimously. SCHWAN'S ICE CREAM - BOB RYPEKMA A. Minor Subdivision - Mr. Kluegel explained this Board had approved a minor subdivision for Tract "B" at the October Planning and Zoning Board Meeting. At this time Schwan's is proposing to combine this Tract "B" with the original Tract "A" under one description. There was concern because the site plan indicates that there will be three driveways exiting onto 77th Street. Mr. Rypekma explained the driveway near Lake Drive will be omitted and sodded to blend in with the sod currently in place. Mr. Prokop moved to recommend approval of application #86 -30, minor subdivision for Schwan Sales Company, 7690 Lake Drive, combining Tract "A" and Tract "B ", that follows the professional opinion of the Planner. Mrs. Nelson seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously. • PLANNING & ZONING BOARD November 12, 1986 Page Three B. Site and Building Plan Review - #86 -31 - Mr. McLean asked about the lighting on this proposal. Mr. Rypekma explained there will be no off the building lighting. Mr. Kluegel explained soils, grading, drainage, drainfields and building materials have been addressed by the Planner. Mr. Prokop was concerned because the plan proposed a building with three large doors facing 77th Street. This does not present much of a view for residents on the north side of 77th Street. He sug- gested rearranging the building on the site so that the large doors face west or south. Mr. Rypekma explained because of the locations of the freezers inside the building and the exterior loading dock another arrangement was not feasible. Mr. McLean suggested changing the landscaped area to the north of the buildings to a berm with dense landscape screening. Mrs. Klaus questioned the material used for the parking area near the loading dock. Mr. Johnson explained the Ordinance requires blacktop, concrete or another approved hard surface. Mrs. Nelson was concerned about the width of the present second drive- way. Mr. Johnson explained it is wider than code, however, it is an existing driveway and he considered it grandfathered. Mr. Doocy referred to Mr. Volk's letter regarding the condition of 77th Street. Mr. Rypekma said that if any damage is done to 77th it will be repaired. It was decided to set a special meeting with Pete Kluegel and all Planning and Zoning Members who can be there at 7:00 P.M., Thursday, November 20, 1986. Mr. Rypekma will bring in a revised plan showing all the changes talked about tonight. This will insure that a plan approved by the Planning and Zoning Board will be forwarded to the Council for their November 24, 1986 Meeting. Mr. Prokop moved to recommend approval of the site and building plan for Schwan Sales Company upon Planning and Zoning subcommittee action during the week of November 17th through 20th, otherwise wait until the December Planing and Zoning Board Meeting. Mr. Kluegel is to deliver updated site plans to each Planning and Zoning member on Tuesday, November 18, 1986. Mrs. Klaus seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously. CHRIS ROSS - ROSS' LIQUORS - 7990 LAKE DRIVE Mr. Jerry Anderson representing Jamb Architects explained that be- cause the County is planning to widen and upgrade Main Street, Mr. Ross is looking at removing his current place of business and build- ing a new building on the southern portion of the lot. Mr. Ross will be left with approximately 1.25 acres of land and is considering • • • PLANNING & ZONING BOARD November 12, 1986 Page Four building a 13,500 square foot business building on the property. Mr. Ross has also been working with Mr. Schumacher in designating this property for Tax Increment Financing (TIF). Mr. Anderson explained the site plan for this corner. The required parking area has been met on the plan. However, because a particu- lar size building is needed to qualify financially for TIF a variance will be required for setback on the east boundary on the property. The plan indicates a 5' setback and the code requires a 30' setback. The City Planner suggested the Planning and Zoning Board deal with the variance first since the entire plan is based on approval of the ordinance. The Planning and Zoning Board considered each of the six findings of fact the City Code requires for granting a variance. It was deter- mined that only three findings could be positively applied in this case. There was consideration of purchasing 30 feet from the property owner to the east. This property is already smaller than what is required in an ER district. A variance would be required if the property owner is willing to sell just 30 feet. Mr. Anderson suggested that Mr. Ross' property could be designated as a redevelopment area. However, the City Administrator felt this was not a good way to handle this area. The Planning and Zoning Board considered using zero lot line for the east property boundary. The City Planner felt this was not appropriate for this area. Mrs. Averbeck suggested that Mr. Ross build a multi- level building to satisfy the financial aspect for TIF. Mr. Ross explained his business and those planning to locate in his building do not easily lend themselves to this type of structure. Mr. Ross told the planning and Zoning Board it was impossible to meet all the conditions of the City Code without decreasing the size of his building. He and the City Staff have worked on this. The consensus of the Planning and Zoning Board was to follow the City Code and suggested Mr. Ross look further into acquiring 30 feet of additional land to the east. Mr. McLean moved to table this item. Mrs. Klaus seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously. Members of the Board told Mr. Ross they felt he had a super plan and hoped the problems could be overcome. The Board took a five minute recess. • PLANNING & ZONING BOARD November 12, 1986 Page Five SIGN CRAFTERS - ADVERTISING SIGN - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Mr. Arthur Dean representing Sign Crafters appeared before the Plan- ning and Zoning Board to request a Conditional Use Permit to con- struct two advertising signs on the Glenn Rehbein property facing 35W. Mr. Kluegel told the Board that to meet the Code requirements regarding spacing between signs, Mr. Rehbein's sign would have to be removed. Mr. Dean explained the material used in the construction of the sign. Mr. Prokop moved to recommend that applications #86 -37 and #86 -38 for property owned by Glenn Rehbein to erect two signs be approved with the stipulation that the sign currently in place and owned by Glenn Rehbein be removed and the permit voided prior to the con- struction of the new signs. Mrs. Nelson seconded the motion. Mrs. Klaus noted that if 4th Avenue is constructed in this area, the new signs would have to moved to meet setback requirements. Voting on the motion, motion carried unanimously. DOG KENNEL - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Mr. James Flannery of 1381 Holly Drive is requesting a Conditional Use Permit for a private Dog Kennel. He is considering selling his property to Dr. John Baillie who owns four dogs and to meet City Code would require a Kennel License. Mr._McLean moved to recommend approval of application #86 -39 from Mr. James Flannery of 1381 Holly Drive for a Dog Kennel. Mrs. Averbeck seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously. HAROLD BISEL - MINOR SUBDIVISION LOT LINE REARRANGEMENT Mr. Bisel of 6381 - 20th Avenue presented a drawing of his lot and the lot to the south of his property. He explained that this arrange- ment would not add or subtract any area from either lot but would provide a more regular lot configuration. He also explained his driveway is now located on the adjacent lot and by rearranging the lines the driveway would then be on his own lot. Mr. Prokop moved to recommend approval of application #86 -36. Mrs. Averbeck seconded the motion. Mr. McLean asked what Mr. Bisel planned to do with the adjacent lot. Mr. Bisel said he may sell it. Voting on the motion, motion carried with Mr. McLean voting no. • Mr. Prokop moved to extend the meeting time twenty minutes. Mrs. Klaus seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously. • • • PLANNING & ZONING BOARD November 12, 1986 Page Six GARY UHDE - CONCEPT PLAN Mr. Uhde explained he has purchased 80 acres south of Birch Street and plans to develop it into approximately 160 lots. He introduced his planner, Mr. Will Newmeister, and asked him to explain this concept. Mr. Newmeister explained the area will be developed in two stages basically to keep the number of lots for each plat under 100 lots. He indicated there will be ponds to meet the Rice Creek Watershed District requirements and to make the lots aesthetic to the poten- tial buyer. These ponds would be maintained by a homeowners as- sociation. The lots will be serviced by municipal sewer and water. Mr. McLean felt the street configuration may be difficult for the maintenance crews. Mr. Newmeister explained tear drop cul -de -sacs. These items were listed as concerns: - Frontage on cul -de -sacs. -Long cul -de -sacs. - No provisions for parks or play areas. - Ponds attractive nuisance for children playing. - Suggest Planning and Zoning Board walk the area. Mrs. Nelson explained that Brooklyn Park made effective use of ponds and they did not appear to be a safety issue. Mr. Prokop commented that a lake sized pond could be developed. Mrs. Nelson felt this would mean a deeper, more dangerous pond with less control. Mr. Uhde explained that there is going to be some type of ponding to yLPet Rice Creek Watershed District's requirements. He plans upscaled housing and therefore plans to make the area attractive. There will be no weeds or algae. Mr. Uhde thanked the Board for looking at his proposal. Items #12 through #14 were tabled. Mr. Prokop moved to adjourn at 10:20 P.M. Mrs. Klaus seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.