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February 22, 1983
Task Force
The meeting was called to order at 7:10 p.m. by Mr. Larry Johnson for the purpose of
discussing the citizen comments from the quadrant meetings and possibly reviewing the
proposed zoning map.
Members present: Johnson, Averbeck, Bloomquist, Dougherty, Goldade, Rosenthal, Howard.
Mr. Bill Short, City Planner, Mr. Kluegel and Mr. Schumacher were also present.
Mr. Johnson told the task force he had some feelings regarding property that was surr-
ounded by one acre lots. At this time this land could only be developed into five acre
lots. He asked the task force to think about what they should do about this situation
and possibly discuss later.
Mr. Short emphasized he felt the Council had appointed the task force for the purpose
of seeing what the problems are and receiving the comments and concerns from the comm-
unity before the proposed zoning ordinance and map goes to the Council for they review.
Mr. Schumacher said he felt the major purpose of the task force was to also get inform-
ation out to the community. However, there is no proposal that will satisfy everyone.
Mr. Short felt now the task force should make their final adjustments and be prepared
to defend their document.
Mr. Short distributed a memorandum he prepared summarizing the major issues and concerns
brought out at the quadrant meetings.
Item #1. Riding Stables. Mr. Short proposed three conditional uses in the Rural Dist-
rict. 1). Commercial Horse Breeding Operations (over 20 horses), 2). Commercial Board-
ing Stables (over 10 horses), 3). Livery Stables. Arenas such as Rehbein's Arena and
the Northwest Saddle Club were discussed and Mr. Short will try to get further informat-
ion regarding these two operations for the task force.
Item #2. Mr. Short felt that in the Rural District the road - right -of -way should be in-
cluded in the total land area. The final decision was for the five and 10 acre lots
the minimum size may be calculated in include existing or dedicated roadways or
easements but in no case be less than 10 %.
Item #3. The task force felt that no land should be purposely landlocked, therefore,
future street access should be provided as part of the five and ten acre lot subdivision.
Item #4. It was decided to increase the commercial area at the northwest quadrant of
Main Street and 135E to include the SZ of the entire parcel.
Item #5. In discussing the Lake Drive Commercial strip between I35W and Main STreet, it
was decided to leave the map as it is now proposed.
Item #6. The area of Lake Drive and Orange Street was discussed it was decided to change
this area to a commercial node.
Item #7. The area north of the proposed 77th Street extension to 4th Avenue is proposed
industrial and the area residents were concerned about this. This land is owned by Moline
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Concrete and is also at the end of the air strip. It was felt this was not a good area
for residential use.
Item #8. It was decided to leave the ER District a five acre lot minimum size and not
create a district for one acre lots.
Item #9. It was decided to require 330 feet
Item #10. It was decided that the lot width
County Road J be 360 feet in the ER District
Other than this item the area will remain as
lot widths in the five and 10 acre lot areas.
on Mr. Jenson property on Hodgson Road near
and 400 feet in the Commercial District.
proposed.
Item #11. A number of property owners wanted their property to remain zoned commercial
along Hodgson Road. It was decided to leave the district as proposed.
Item #12. Mr. Short will check to see how other seaplane bases are zoned. It was felt
it should have a zoning of its own.
Mr. Harold Lehman from 509 Birch Street appeared before the task force explaining he had
been unable to attend the quadrant meeting at the 49 Club. He was told how his property
was propsed to be zoned and it was also explained to him he could continue his farming
operation as long as he wishes.
Mr. Arnold and Melvin Rehbein explained to the task force that they had been to City
Hall in the late fall asking to have a twenty acre parcel on 62nd Street divided into two
seven acre parcels and one six acre parcel. They were told at that time of the moratorum
and upon consulting the Land Use Map it was felt after the moratorum they would be zoned
ER and this lot split was permissable. Since then the zoning map has been prepared show-
ing this twenty acre parcel as Rural or ten acres minimum lot size. The Rehbein's were
told to consult an attorney and have legal papers drawn up showing their proposed three
lots and these lots could be recorded in the future when this area is changed from Rural
to Expansion Residential.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:55 p.m. and a meeting was planned for 7 :00 p.m. Thursday,
February 24, 1983.
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Barton - Aschman Associates, Inc.
1610 South Sixth Street Minneapolis, Minnesota 55454 612- 332 -0421
MEMORANDUM TO: Zoning Ordinance Update Task Force
FROM: Bill Short
DATE: February 22, 1983
SUBJECT: PUBLIC INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS - SUMMARY OF
MAJOR ISSUES AND QUESTIONS
The following summarizes some of the major issues or concerns voiced during the
public informational meetings which I would recommend that the Task Force consider
reviewing. The comments appear according to the meeting during which they were
mentioned.
February 7, 1983 - Northeast Quadrant
1. Riding Stables. Marti Bancroft who owns a commercial riding stable in the
northeast quadrant questioned our definitions for "Commercial Riding Stable."
Since we have no definition, she offered her assistance in helping us prepare one
for the ordinance. It is apparently important to differentiate between stables
and commercial riding stables. The city's hobby farm ordinance should be
consulted relative to this issue.
February 10, 1983 - Southeast Quadrant
2. Ten -acre minimum lot size its Rural and Expansion Residential districts. We
should consider loosening the minimum lot size requirements for these large lot
districts so that road rights -of -way, easements, or other minor infringements on
lot size may be included to meet the minimum lot size requirement.
3. Future street access. When reviewing any proposed plats for either five- or ten -
acre lot sizes, the city should assure that a street access is provided to the
interior of the quarter section within which the lots are platted. This should be
done to guard against landlocking the interior of any large parcels.
February 15, 1983 - Northwest Quadrant
4. Rural, Commercial and Industrial. The use of the Rural District as a holding
zone for future developable areas was questioned. The principal concern raised
was related to whether it would be proper to allow one residence per ten acres in
areas which may, in the future, be better suited for commercial or industrial use.
An alternative to this method would be to designate areas for commercial and
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industrial development for the years beyond 2000 and to protect those areas
from premature development by requiring a very large minimum lot size. This
procedure would accomplish two things: 1) assure that the development which
occurs there between now and the time that area receives sewer will be
consistent with its ultimate land use, and 2) discourage development until that
time. This would probably require creation of two new districts.
5. Retaining Lake Drive strip commercial zoning between I -35W and Lake Drive.
There was sentiment expressed by the audience and by a member of the Task
Force to allow the 300 -foot strip commercial to remain along this area of the
city. This should be discussed.
6. Commercial uses on Lake Drive at Orange Street. The four small businesses in
this small commercial node were interested in keeping their commercial zoning.
7. Proposed industrial zoning north of 77th Street. The proposed Zoning District
Map indicates an extension of the Light Industrial District north of Molin
Concrete to include approximately 20 acres north of 77th. Three property
owners approached me with an interest in having that area zoned Expansion
Residential.
8. Expansion Residential lot size. Some property owners within the proposed
Expansion Residential District but near to or surrounded by existing one -acre
subdivisions felt that the five -acre minimum lot size was excessive and should be
reduced, at least in their case, to one acre.
February 17, 1983 - Southwest Quadrant
9. Minimum frontage in ER District. One property owner expressed dissatisfaction
with the 300 -foot minimum lot width and recommended that it be somewhat less
(approximately 150 feet) instead.
10. Highway 49/85th Avenue commercial area. The individual who owns the
property immediately north of the 49 Club indicated that he wanted the
commercial zoning to continue all the way up to Rohavik Oaks Subdivision.
There was also interest in continuing the commercial zoning east across Highway
49 to enlarge that commercial area on the east side of the highway as well.
11. Strip commercial zoning - Hodgson Road. Two property owners located within
the existing 300 -foot strip commercial requested that their properties be
continued as commercial rather than being rezoned to Expansion Residential.
Those two property owners included the insurance agency to 6364 Hodgson Road.
12. Seaplane base. In what district should the seaplane base be listed as a permitted
or conditional use.
While there were many other comments and criticisms expressed during the four public
meetings, those which I have chosen to list above were the ones which I feel should be
discussed in greater detail. Pete Klugel has also prepared a list of issues which he
would like to discuss with the Task Force.