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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/12/1983 P&Z Minutes• • Planning and Zoning Board October 12, 1983 The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chairman Prokop with the following members present; McLean, Cody, Ostlie, Goldade, °stile, Klaus. Mr. Prokop presented a suggestion from Mr. Schumacher for the updating of the - Planning- and Zoning--me.mbers on various aspects of the planning and zoning precess used in other areas. The general consensus of the Board this is a good suggestion. Mr. McLean moved to recommend that this Board direct the City Administra- tor go about setting up the training sessions for six meetings and that the presentations be arranged by the zoning official to be presented at the end of the meeting. Seconded by Mrs. Klaus. Motion carried unanimously. MINUTES - September 14, 1983 Mr. McLean moved to approve the minutes of September 14, 1983 as pre- sented. Seconded by Mr. Doocy. Motion carried unanimously. COUNCIL UPDATE Mr. Kluegel repoted on the actions of the Council in reference to the recommendations of this Board. There was discussion on the Boe Conditiona Use Permit in that the Board felt that did not approve the on -site septic system and felt this should come before this Board. Mr. Kluegel was directed to bring this back to the Planning and Zoning Board. There was a question on the lease easement for the AT &T Tower on the Acton Property - who is responsible? to whom shouldnthe permit be issued? Mr. Kluegel was requested to clear this matter with Mr. Hawkins. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - NORTHWESTERN BELL This request concerns a request for a lot size variance. The land is located in a General Business area. Northwestern Bell has an option to purchase this property contingent upon approval of this body. This building is to be used to house equipment to provide economical service community. The methods used to use the equipment that would be housed in this building. The building is to be 17'x17'. There will be employees housed in the building, therefore creating no traffic or park- ing problems. This building would be located on James Street just East of Lake Drive, near the bank. There is an existing building on the land and if this parcel is approved for division, this would leave a parcel of approximately .7 acres. The Planning and Zoning was concerned with the creation of two non -con- forming lots out of the existing lot. Mr. Short's letter was reviewed and Mr. Nelson was asked to respond to 0 several items in that letter which he did. - page two - Planning and Zoning Board\ October 12, 1983 Mr. Nelson was asked the life of this building and he said it is for long • range use. The Board was concerned with creating two small lots' and Mr. Nelson felt that, if and when this building and it's use be- comes obsolete, it would become available to the current land owner of the other parcel. Mr. Cody moved to recommend to the Council that the application of Northwestern Bell for the construction of a 17'x17' service building on a sub - standard parcel 62'x77' in the GB for a variance and a Conditional Use Permit be approved with the following stipulations; 1) that the option to purchase be granted to Northwestern Bell, 2) the area surrounding be properly fenced, 3) that a asphalt driveway be installed, 4) when the use is discontinued, the building will be removed, 5) the site and building plan reviewed be waived in veiw of the presentation by Mr. Nelson, Northwestern Bell's representative. Mr. Cody noted some special circumstances in granting this approval, 1) this is the most logical area for this building to be constructed in order to serve the Northwestern area of %Lino Lakes with more efficient telephone service, there will be no employees on the site on a continuing basis. The the service building size is adequate for the lot size. Acutally building site will not require any sewer. The site will be properly maintained by Morthwestern Bell. Seconded by Mr. Goldade. Motion carried unanimously. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - ROY STANLEY - ZERO LOT LINE Mr. Stanley presented his request for splitting a lot with an existin111 duplex. This would allow the private ownership of each duplex. The Board was concerned with the size of the lot in that it is sub- standard at the current time and with the allowing of the zero lot line, this would create two sub - standard lots. Mr. McLean moved to recommend denial of this request from Mr. Stanley for the reasons that splitting a 104' to two 52' would create two sub- standard lots even under the provisions for sewered lots and would provide a precedent setting situation for other subdividions. Seconded by Mr. Ostlie. Motion carried unanimously. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - Mr. Flanagan This is for the construction of a storage building in conjunction with his auto and truck repair. This property is located in the GB area and a Conditional Use Permit is required in order to expand the business. Mr. Prokop felt that the packet is incomplete for this Board to review he site and building. plans. He also felt that he would like to have this material several days ahead in order to study and be able to ask some questions. There was discussion as to the location of this building on the site, the set back, use of the building, and several other questions by the Board. • • • - page three - Planning and Zoning Boaid, October 12, 1983 It was generally felt that this material should be supplied in order for the information to be on file at City Hall. Mr. Flanagan proposed to construct this building on property that fronts on Maple Street and the driveway is to be from that street.. Mr. Prokop quest_Q.ned the .access to the building from the property now in use on Orange Street - is there to be a drive through? a path of some sort? color of the building? trim? roof? driveway surface? height of building? Mr. McLean moved to table this request for the November agenda in order for Mr. Flanagan to obtain the material as outlined in Mr. Short's letter of October 6, 1983, to include survey and legal description of the lot. Seconded by Mr. Cody. Motion carried unanimously. A recess was called at-tthis point in the meeting. The meeting was reconvened. REZONE FEASIBILITY - Ronald Conway Mr. Conway has property located on the corner of Ware Road and Ash Street and is currently zoned ER. The Board felt this actions would constitute spot zoning and Mr. McLean felt that could be a problem. Mr. Conway is planning for a body shop. The Board suggested that he look at land already zoned GB, such as Mr. Jensen's property on Hodgson Road. The general consensus of the Board was that the location he had selected was feasible, but, lands that already zoned for GB would be more feasible. This seemed to answer Mr. Conway's questions. LOT SPLIT - Bill Fogerty This is a request to split a parcel of land by metes and bounds. Mr. Kluegel pointed out this is for lot sizes that conform to the zoning ordinance and there is only two building sites on the property. He also pointed out that park fees will be due on this land. There was discussion for the need to contact Rice Creek Watershed before aby digging or filling is done on this property. Mr. Prokop read the regulations as set forth in the Zoning Ordinance that govern the conveyance of lands by metes and bounds, He wondered if these rules should not be followed in this request. Mr. Fogerty was concered with getting all this material together and be able to get a house in- before winter. He wondered if it would be possible to get a building permit on the entire parcel and then split at a later date and the Board said that this could be done. They suggested that he do this. The Board moved, and passed a motion to table this until they hear from Mr. Fogerty. - page four - Planning and Zoning Board October 12, 1983 FINAL PLAT - RICE LAKE ESTATES This is presented to the Planning and Zoning for their final comments. The general consensus of this Board was that the street names as noted are unsuitable and should be changed. There was discussion on the areas labeled as "Park 1 & 2" noting that these are outlots. It was noted that in the Park Board minutes this had been addressed. Mr. Prokop asked if anyone knew why the Park Board is so set on money in leiu of land in this plat? Mr. Goldade said the Park Board felt they have enough land and they need money to develop what they have. Mr. Prokop asked if the Park Board was aware of the concerns of this Board and the efforts of this Board the night that the tot lots were recommended? He felt that no one on this Board would change their mind even though the Park Board had rejected this recommendation. Mr. Prokop asked when the final hearing will he held on this plat? He requested that Mr. Kluegel notify all Planning and Zoning Board members when this public hearing on the final plat is held so that anyone member may appear at that meeting and make their feelings known as to the need for tot lots in that area. There was also a concern on a need for provisions for a turn around all' then end of one of the street. It was noted that Mr. Volk has requested a 'T' in that area. Mr. McLean questioned the advisability of this type of turn around - he felt a cul -de -sac was better. Mr. McLean suggested that Mr. Volk be requested to explain this preference. There was concern on the entrance and exit from the area - should t1-ere be a turn lane on Highway 49? This is to be checked with the State Highway Department. The Planning and Zoning had concerns in the following areas: 1) they wish to be notified when the final hearing is held on this plat, 2) the lack of a turnaround at the end of one of the street, 3) trails, 4) tot lot, 5) turn off lane on Hodgson Road, 6) street names, 7) Mr. Short's comments 8) Marshall Ash preferred over Mountain Ash. Mr. McLean moved to recommend to the Council that the final plat of Rice Lake Estates be rejected until such time as their concerns regard- ing the various items included in the Building Official's notes be addressed. Seconded by Mr. Doocy. Motion carried unanimously. OLD BUSINESS There was none at this time. • The Planning and Zoning Members were presented with a draft ordinance concerned with signs. Mr. McLean felt this Ordinance should be gone - page five - Planning and Zoning Board October 12, 1983 • through. He asked Mr. Kluegel what had been changed in this ordinance from the -old sign ordinance other than the districts? was the distan.ce._between_ signs? .Mr_._ Kluegel said, No. Mr. McLean noted that the State has never accepted the City's sign ordinance for certification, not has any other in the state as far as he knows. Is this a legal ordinances? MR. McLean asked if the size of the signs allowed had been changed? any changes in the rules pertaining to flashing signs? the structure of the signs - steel or wood - and the relationship as to wind load and the manner in which this can be assured. The general consensus of the Board was to table this matter until the November agenda. NEW BUSINESS Mr. McLean questioned some homes going in on Ash Street. Mr. Kluegel reported these are earth berm homes and the land is deceiving there is high land in the rear. Mrs. Klaus moved to adjourn. Seconded by Mr. McLean. Aye. • • 1 (Continued from previous book) October 12, 1983 LOT SPLIT - Bill Fogerty This is a request to split a parcel of land by metes and bounds. Mr. Kluegel pointed out this is for lot sizes that conform to the zoning ordinance and there are only two building sites on the property. He also pointed out that park fees will be due on this land. There was discussion for the need to contact Rice Creek Watershed before any digging or filling is done on this property. Mr. Prokop read the regulations, as set forth in the Zoning Ordinance that govern the conveyance of lands by metes and bounds. He wondered if these rules should not be followed in this request. Mr. Fogerty was concerned with getting all this material together and be able to get a house in before winter. He wondered if it would be possible to get a building permit on the entire parcel and then split at a later date and the Board said that this could be done. They suggested that he do this. The Board moved, and passed a motion to table this until they hear from Mr. Fogerty. FINAL PLAT - RICE LAKE ESTATES This is presented to the Planning and Zoning for their final comments. The general consensus of this Board was that the street names as noted are unsuitable and should be changed. There was discussion on the areas labeled as "Park 1 & 2" noting that these are outlots. It was noted that in the Park Board minutes this had been addressed. .Mr. Prokop asked if anyone knew why the Park Board is so set on money in leiu of land in this plat? Mr. Goldade said the Park Board felt they have enough land and they need money to develop what they have. Mr. Prokop asked if the Park Board was aware of the concerns of this Board and the efforts of this Board the night that the tot lots were recommended? He felt that no one on this Board would change their mind even though the Park Board had rejected this recommendation. Mr. Prokop asked when the final hearing will be held on this plat? He requested Mr. Kluegel notify all Planning and Zoning Board members when this public hearing on the final plat is held so that anyone member may appear at that meeting and make their feelings known as to the need for tot lots in that area. There was also a concern on a need for provisions for a turn around at the end of one of the streets. It was noted that Mr. Volk has requested a 'T' in that area. Mr. McLean questioned the advisability of this type of turn around - he felt a cul -de -sac was better. Mr. McLean suggested that Mr. Volk be requested to explain this preference. There was concern on the entrance and exit from the area - should there be a turn lane on Highway 49? This is to be checked with the State Highway Department. The Planning & Zoning had concerns in the following areas: 1) they wish to be notified when the final hearing is held on this plat, October 12, 1983 2 2) the lack of a turnaround at the end of one of the streets, 3) trails, 4) tot lot, 5) turn off lane on Hodgson Road, 6) street names, 7) Mr. Short's comments, 8) Marshall Ash preferred over Mountain Ash. Mr. McLean moved to recommend to the Council that the final plat of Rice Lake Estates be rejected until such time as their concerns regarding the various items included in the Building Official's notes be addressed. Seconded by Mr. Doocy. Motion carried unanimously. OLD BUSINESS There was none at this time. The Planning & Zoning Members were presented with a draft ordinance concerned with signs. Mr. McLean felt this Ordinance should be gone through. He asked Mr. Kluegel what had been changed in this ordinance from the old sign ordinance other than the districts? Was the distance between signs? Mr. Kluegel said, No. Mr. McLean noted that State has never accepted the City's sign ordinance for certification, nor has any other in the state as far as he knows. Is this a legal ordinance? Mr. McLean asked if the size of the signs allowed had been changed? any changes in the rules pertaining to flashing signs? the structure of the signs - steel or wood - and the relationship as to wind load and the manner in which this can be assured. The general consensus of the Board was to table this matter until the November agenda. NEW BUSINESS Mr. McLean questioned some homes going in on Ash Street. Mr. Kluegel reported these are earth berm homes and the land is deceiving, there is high land in the rear. Mrs. Klaus moved to adjourn. Seconded by Mr. McLean. Aye. Planning & Zoning Board November 9, 1983 The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at 7:33 P.M., November 9, 1983 by Chairman Prokop with the following members present; Goldade, Klaus, Doocy, Cody, Ostlie. Absent; McLean. MINUTES - OCTOBER 12, 1983 On considering the minutes, Mr. Doocy had some corrections; 1) the meeting convened at 7:30 P.M.; Mr. Ostlie was listed twice and Mr. Doocy was eliminated; 3) under the Northwestern Bell Conditional Use Permit in the second paragraph, the second sentence makes no sense - should be clarified. Mr. Cody made corrections in the last paragraph of that subject.