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September 8, 1982
The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was
S called to order by Vice - Chairman McLean with the following members present;
Prokop, Doocy, Klaus, Juleen, Goldade. Mr. Johnson will be late.
MINUTES
The meeting in August had been cancelled, therefore there were no minutes.
Mr. Prokip moved to dispense with this agenda itesm Seconded by Mrs. Klaus.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Doocy noted that the minutes from the July meeting should have been
included in this packet for approval. He requested that these minutes be
included in the October packet.
VARIANCE - SHERWOOD GREEN
Mr. Johnson arrived at 7:45 P.M.
Mr. Nelson is requested a variance to Ord. #22A - storm sewer installation.
Mr. Kolstad, representing Mr. Nelson, presented the original maps designating
the location of the storm sewer. Mr. Kolstad presented the alternate
location that they are asking to have approved. He reported that he had
AAsLontacted Rice Creek Watershed Board and they found no problems with the
iaaternate location.
Mr. Davidson explain led the problems he had encountered in the inspection
• of this project. The easement in block 1 is between lots 4/5 - 6/7. The
problem is that Lot 7 is full of trees and is sold. Mr. Davidson found no
problem with relocating the storm sewer between lots 5/6 providing the
pipes are the proper size.
Mr. Prokop asked if this relocations has,r1peen approved by Rice Creek Water
Shed District and Mr. Kolstad said that had. Mr. Prokop asked that this
approval be put in writing and forwarded to the City.
Mr. McLean asked Mr. Davidson what the pipe size should be and Mr. Davidson
said he had not computed that as yet, and would suggested that the motion
c,v.ixrg wording to the effect of "proper sizing ".
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Mr. McLean moved to recommend to the Council regarding the Sherwood Green
plat dated 7/19/75, Block 1, Lots 4/5 -6/7 drainage easements - this easement
be relocated on the line of lots 5/6 to drain the area and the Engineer
compute the proper size of the pipes to allow for proper drainage of the
area. Also, the letter from Rice Creek' Watershed Board authorizing the
abandonment of the apparent ease'F� Ton lots 6/7 be received. Seconded by
Mr. Doocy. Motion carried unanimously.
B) STREET STANDARDS VARIATION - SHERWOOD GREEN
This matter is concerned with large trees located within the area of the
boulevard and some on private property that would need to be removed in order
to conform to the current standardsas set by the City.
There was discussion on the Sight line and the possible need for a stop sign
on one or both of the streets. A resident from the audience said he did not
feel there was a sight line problem.
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•Mr. Johnson asked if there was a hardship to the land and Mr. Davidson said
even if the trees were removed, a clear sight line would not be possible.
He felt his concern was the destruction of the fairly large Pine trees.
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Mr. Juleen said he had driven through the pmt and did not have a problem
with sight but felt it would be a sharhe to destroy the trees and he didn't
feet that would make too much difference.
There was discussion on the need for traffic control signs and where they
could be needed.
Mr. Prokop moved to recommend to the Council that the variance requested by
Mr. Charles Neslon be allowed on the boulevard slope per the City Engineer's
recommendations on Lots 16 and 1. Seconded by Mr. McLean.
Mr. Kolstad felt that this had been presented to the Council and the Council
had sent back to the P &Z - since the City has professionals to deal with
such matters, a lot of time could have been saved by heeding their advice.
The motion carried unanimously.
Mrs. Klaus asbout the installation of the traffic control signs - who takes
care of this? This is handled by the Public Works Department and the
Engineer.
Mrs. Klaus moved to recommend to the Council, when this area is completed,
• in the area of Lois Lane and Nottingham Place, this be inspected for the
need of proper signs. Seconded by Mr. Prokop . Motion carried unanimously.
NATHE - OFF STREET PARKING
This matter had been before the Council at a Public Hearing on a Re -zone
request to R -3. The Council had delayed a decision on the rezoning and had
returned the matter to the Planning and Zoning and asked them to consider
the parking that had been proposed and had been deleted by the Planning and
Zoning.
Mr. McLean pointed out that this property has less than the required frontage
on a street. Also this application was for an R -3 zoning.
Mr. Prokop stated his concerns with the possibility of cars using the drive=
way for parking and blocking emergency vehicles.
Mr. McLean read a letter from Chief Myhre noting the problem with the paring
at the 49 Club and stating that he felt the additional parking would be an
asset.
Mr. Prokop suggested that this building be converted to a motel and use the
entire parcel for parking. Someone suggested this would only compound the
problem.
•There was discussion on controlling the parking in the area. Mr. McLean felt
there had been the suggestion that a fence be installed. Mr. McLean read
his motion but it did not include a fence requirement.
Mr. Prokop felt that he could not change his vote on this matter.
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IIIJan Kutzner, J &K Liquors, pointed out the problem she has with patrons of the
49 Club parking by the liquor store. She said many cars park along the
highway creating a traffic hazard. She felt the extra parking is needed.
There was a suggestion that land be acquired across the street for additional
parking, but someone felt crossing the highway could also be dangerous.
Mrs. Klaus said she is aware of the problem, but, if by allowing this park-
ing lot, woud solving one problem create another one. Mr. Prokop agreed.
Mr. Johnson felt the black- topping and landscaping would clean up the area.
Mr. Juleen felt Mr. Nathe had created his own problem. He felt the 4 -Plex
was the problem not the parking lot. Mr. Juleen suggested destroying or
removing the house or turned into a motel.
Mr. Goldade agreed with this idea.
Mr. Johnson%pointed out the intent of the original motion was to recommend
approval of the R -3 zoning, delete the parking lot and provide screening
to separate the commercial from the residential.
Mr. Prokop moved to recommend to the Council that the motion stand with the
exception of amended it to provide scrrening between the 49 C lub property
IIIand 4 -Plex property and if that is not acceptable 2) Recind the recommendation
for the R -3 Zoning for the 4 -Plex, then recommend the 4 -Plex be converted to
a motel and a single parking area for both motel and 49 Clun with necessary
screening. Seconded by Mr. Juleen. Motion carried unanimously.
VARIANCE - BUILDING SIZE - MR. ERNST.
This concerns a house located just North of El Rehbein's warehouse on Lake
Drive. A portion of the house and been removed leaving square footage
below standard. A mistake had been made in computing the square footage.
Mr. Kluegel had presented this problem to Mr. Schumacher. It was felt this
could be handled by an administrative variance.
Mr. Kluegel noted that this was a two part house, the front part was a slab
on grade and quite delapidated. The house had been empty for several years
and had recently been purchased and the old front portion torn away in the
process of remodeling to make house livable.
Mrs. Ernst pointed out that everything in the house is new to include carpet,
cabinets, well, septic system, etc.
Mr. Prokop asked if one -half of the garage could be converted to living
quarters and Mr. Kluegel said there are no footings under the garage - it is
on a slab.
Mr. Doocy asked Mr. Kluegel if this home is livable and Mr. Kluegel said, Yes.
•Mr, Doocy moved to approve the administrative variance to an existing
structure at 7811 Lake Drive. Seconded by Mr. Prokop. Motion carried
unanimously.
Meeting was adjourned.