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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/30/1985 Council Minutes (2)1 1 1 SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING September 30, 1985 A Special Council Meeting of the Lino Lakes City Council was called to order by Mayor Benson at 7:00 P.M., Monday, September 30, 1985. Council members present: Bohjanen, Reinert. Mem- bers absent: Kulaszewicz, Marier. Public Works Director, Don Volk; Building Inspector, Pete Kluegel; Police Chief, Dean Camp- bell; Administrator, Randy Schumacher; Engineers, Bob Toddie and John Davidson; and Clerk- Treasurer, Marilyn Anderson were also present. The Shoreview Assistant City Manager, Planner, and entire City Council and Mayor Wedell were present. Bob Doocy and Jan Klaus, Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board were also present. The purpose of the Special Meeting was to exchange information and ideas especially regarding land development and future plan- ning for growth. Mayor Benson welcomed the Shoreview represen- tatives and asked Mayor Wedell to update the Lino Lakes City Coun- cil as to where Shoreview presently stands. Mayor Wedell explained that his Council tries to meet with their surrounding communities on a regular basis to exchange informa- tion about the communities. He described the recent growth in his community and expects the City to be completely filled up in two to three years. Shoreview has recently completed the north end water system and there is currently surplus capacity in this system. The sewer system is basically completed and the Council is now working on road issues. Some roads are showing stress and overloading. He felt that tonight Lino Lakes development and sewer needs should be discussed as well as upgrading County Road J, (Ash Street) from Lexington Avenue to Highway #49 (Hodgson Road). Mr. Davidson explained the proposed sewer and water extension from Shoreview to Lino Lakes. He had prepared a Sanitary Sewer and Wa- ter Main extension and Service Agreement, Shoreview - Lino Lakes Baldwin Lake Area for both Councils to review and act on at some future date. Public Hearings had been held with the affected Lino Lakes residents and the cost of the utilities was high enough that many of the residents did not pursue the installation. How - ever for those still interested a service agreement will have to be completed by Lino Lakes and Shoreview. Mr. Davidson also ex- plained a proposed water service district area and said it would be redundant for Lino Lakes to construct a water supply system when Shoreview has adequate capacity. Also, he felt it was bene- ficial to both communities to be connected to each others services for emergency purposes. Mayor Wedell explained that the water system in Shoreview was in- stalled for Shoreview use and it was not intended to force it on Lino Lakes. He felt the Lino Lakes residents should .. pay the same assessments as Shoreview residents paid for the service. tfi9 120 SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING September 30, 1985 Page Two Mayor Benson explained some problems Lino Lakes is experiencing regarding splitting Lots and areas of marginal development. Mayor Wedel explained there are some difficult choices to make. There were undevelopable areas that the City had to "eat up" some assess- ment. He also explained how two lots were divided to create a third lot so that each lot owner could sell a portion of his lot to recoup some of the costs of installing utilities. Shoreview also created a Source and Supply Fund to help pay for the water system by charging a water availability charge. Mayor Wedell noted that Lino Lakes will not have much develop- ment in the Baldwin Lake area until sewer is available. He also felt neither Ramsey or Anoka Counties would do much to improve County Road J (Ash Street) until all sewer and water lines were installed. In addition Metro would not consider installing a trunk sewer line until a need is demonstrated. Therefore, a development plan for this area should be completed and forwarded to Metro to let them know when a larger facility will be needed. Mayor Wedell explained a concern Shoreview has regarding next years construction projects. Three railroad overpasses will be under construction next summer. This could cause traffic prob- lems for both Shoreview and Lino Lakes. He said there is an overhead light scheduled for County Road J (Ash Street) and Hodgson Road for 1986. Mayor Benson asked what Shoreview's policy is regarding accepting streets in new developments. Mayor Wedell explained Shoreview re- quires a seven ton road, 32' width roadway and an escrow deposit that will cover such things as seal coating. Mayor Benson asked when does Shoreview require the developer to install the blacktop on a new road, when the majority of new homes are constructed or before any homes are constructed? It was ex- plained from a public safety viewpoint, when the base is completed, sewer and water lines are in place, curb, gutter installed and the first lift of blacktop is in place, new home construction can be- gin. The final lift of blacktop can wait for about a year. Mr. Reinert asked if Shoreview requires a developers agreement and what percent is required. It was explained that there is a develop- ers agreement with the requirement of 125% on all phases of con- struction (street lights, street signs, boulevards, etc.). Mr. Davidson asked what is required where improvements are put in un- der Chapter 429, assessment projects. Mayor Wedell explained Shoreview finances the project 100% with no letter of credit by bonding the project. Mayor Benson asked if the City had problems getting developers to comply with the 125% requirement. Mayor Wedell said no, he believes if the City requirements are large enough it will keep marginal de- velopers out of the City. 121 SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING September 30, 1985 Page Three Ponds were addressed. Shoreview said the lots extend into the pond and are part of the homeowners property. They also have some ponds that are maintained by an homeowners association. Mayor Wedell explained that the ponds were usually drainage areas and under the Rice Creek Watershed District jurisdiction. Mr. Volk asked about Shoreview's policy regarding old roads that need to be brought up to current city standards. Shoreview hired a consultant who put together a multi -year plan to restore or re- construct the old streets. This was accomplished by creating a construction revolving fund from bond defeasance. However, an old street is not reconstructed until water, sewer, concrete curb and storm sewer is also constructed. Shoreview also controlled the areas of development by placing a moratorium on the north end until the southern portion was filled. Also area assessments were used for sewer installations. Mr. Da- vidson said the Lino Lakes City Charters does limit the use of area assessments in Lino Lakes. Chief Campbell told about his concern regarding County Road J (Ash Street) and in particular the Hodgson Road intersection. Mayor Wedell explained the proposed development for the southeast corner of Hodgson Road and Ash Street. It will be a small shopping center. Mr. Kluegel said it seems that there is real quality development in Shoreview, has there been a time when there were problems. Ma- yor Wedell said yes, but the City has become more stringent in their requirements and this has brought quality development. Once there is one quality developer, others follow because their in- vestment will have a measure of protection. Every potential de- veloper has to meet with the City Planner, receives a packet of information explaining the development process, and go through the zoning codes so he understands the process and what is required at each step. Shoreview does not believe in giving variances to stan- dards or minimum requirements. Mayor Benson asked for an explanation of what is in the packet. The Shoreview Planner said he would give Mr. Kluegel a sample and said he also walks them through the sketch plan process, the pre- liminary plat approval process and final plat plan approval to be sure that the developer understands the requirements. It has been their experience that if you let the developer know what all the rules are up front they will go along with you. Also Shoreview will not accept an application for a plat until all requirements are fullfilled. However, their process is in stages so that the developer does not have to put his money up front. Park dedication was discussed. Shoreview requires from 5 -10% of the fair market value depending on density. This usually ends up to be approximately $180.00 per lot. It is based on the value of 122 SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING September 30, 1985 Page Four the land at the time of the final plat. They also require parks to be at least 10 acres in size so that several types of activi- ties can take place that will appeal to all age groups. They do not like the concept of four year old tots walking up the street to a tot lot. Storm water drainage was discussed. Fire coverage was also dis- cussed. Shoreview gets its protection from the Vadnais Volunteer Fire Department. Mayor Wedell explained their Civil Defense Siren Plan. Many years ago sirens were installed in areas of greater population concentration. Several years ago Shoreview hired a consultant to come in and prepare a civil defense warning plan. Since then sirens have been installed according to this plan. Revenue Shar- ing moneys were used for the purchase of stationary horn sirens. It was their opinion that Revenue Sharing funds should not be used as part of the operating budget because Revenue Sharing is unpredictable. Mayor Benson thanked the Shoreview Council and staff for coming this evening. Each City will review the Sanitary Sewer and Water Main Extension and Service Agreement presented this evening by Mr. Davidson and will make comments on it. The meeting adjourned about 8:45 P.M. These minutes were considered, corrected and approved at a regular meeting of the City Council on October 15, 1985. 1, I J 1J tj ( c�� t:� C r. � /') Marilyn G. Anderson, City Clerk son, Mayor 1 1 1