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COUNCIL WORK SESSION MARCH 9, 1987
A Work Session of the Lino Lakes City Council with City Engineer Ron
Stahlberg started at 5:00 PM with dinner in the Senior Center. Mayor
Benson, Council members Marier, Bisel, Reinert, and Bohjanen were
present. Public Works Director, Don Volk and Clerk - Treasurer, Marilyn
Anderson were also present.
Mr. Stahlberg displayed a map showing all the developable areas in
Lino Lakes. He explained the yellow area is the area he is proposing
to be included within the MUSA line for services before the year 2000
and the green area is planned for services after the year 2000. Mr
Stahlberg noted that the City has been allotted an additional seven
hundred acres to be included in the MUSA line and he is determining
what areas should be added to the present boundaries. He has been to
Metro Council and feels he has a good chance of selling them the map
he has outlined but if he has to exclude some areas he is suggesting
excluding the West Shadow Lake Drive area and the area east of
Pheasant Run. Mr. Stahlberg will do his best to get. Metro Council to
accept the map as now drawn.
The first overlay on the map shows potential areas of development and
the number of residential units that could be built in that area. The
second overlay shows a layout of the municipal sewer system. Mr.
Stahlberg's question regarding this map is where will the interceptor
enter Lino Lakes from Shoreview. Mr. Marier asked Mr. Stahlberg to
explain the situation regarding the interceptor on Centerville Road
just south of Lino Lakes. Mr. Stahlberg did not know this situation
and Mr. Marier asked him to check on this as he heard that it will be
brought to the Lino Lakes border.
The third overlay on the map shows the municipal water system. Mr.
Stahlberg is looking at an area near where Tomahawk Trail meets Birch
Street on the Lehman property for a location of the water storage
tower. He noted that Mr. Rehbein has offered a site just north of
Shenandoah Park for a tower but feels the soils may not be suitable.
He is open to suggestions from the Council for a tower location and
feels more than one tower may be needed. Computer calculations will
determine if more than one is needed and the vicinity where they
should be located. There was discussion on the size of the area one
tower serves. Factors to be considered are fire protection and land
use.
Mayor Benson asked if the tower at the prison could be used in the
service of the area north of 35W. Mr. Stahlberg said possibly as a
backup since it is small.
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Mr. Stahlberg suggested looking at a location within the County Park
for a tower location and the County could help pay for the facility
instead of installing a new system of their own. Mayor Benson asked
that he look at this suggestion with the County.
On the matter of financing this facility, Mr. Bisel asked if there
were any outside monies available. Mr. Stahlberg said no. Mr. Marier
said since interest rates are very favorable this may be the best time
to set up service for the entire area since piece meal installations
only drive the costs up. Mr. Stahlberg explained the game plan is to
do all of the planning now and build off of the plan.
On the matter of locating the tower, Mr. Stahlberg said he could feed
information into his computer and determine where the weak spots are
in his plan and find out what happens when you move the tower
locations to different areas. He noted the politics in this matter
such as where do you get the land. The Council asked Mr. Stahlberg to
look at three possible areas for the tower; 1) County Park (Kelling
knoll); 2) Country Lakes Park; 3) area near 12th Avenue and Birch
Street. Mayor Benson suggested that we may want to put the tower in
the County Park even if the County does not want to share the costs.
This location may serve the entire municipal water service area in
Lino Lakes and no other tower will be required. Mr. Stahlberg said
the computer may say it is cheaper to build two towers.
Mr. Stahlberg outlined the new MUSA boundaries and suggested that the
Council may want to update the Planning and Zoning Board regarding the
changes and the reasoning for them.
PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT FINANCING POLICY - LETTER DATED FEBRUARY 18, 1987
Mr. Stahlberg reviewed his letter of February 18, 1987. He noted that
Page Two deals only with developed areas. Page Three deals with new
subdivisions or undeveloped areas. He suggested that when new
proposals are considered, that adjoining property also be looked at to
see what the impact will be on them. He noted that the City Code
should be updated to include these additional requirements: grading
plan, minimum basement floor elevations and soils investigation.
There was discussion of area assessments. Mr. Stahlberg suggested
that since the pipes to Mr. Uhde's development will be oversized to
accomodate future growth, the surrounding area could receive an area
assessment. Mayor Benson said this could be a problem. Mr. Stahlberg
explained that in Andover oversized pipes are financed by trunk sewer
or water connection fees plus inflation factors. In this manner the
surrounding area is not assessed until it develops. Mr. Marier said
he could not go along with assessing anyone who has not petitioned for
services. He noted that developers come into an area and impose a
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situation and then leave and this leaves the bill for the surrounding
property owners. He felt if the surrounding property develops, then
they should share in the costs.
Mr. Stahlberg noted that there are undeveloped lots in Shenandoah and
Lakes Additions and asked if these lots could be assessed for the
proposed tower facility. He explained other communities help finance
this facility with water revenue and connection fees. It would be
possible to also use connection fees for this situation.
Mr. Stahlberg explained Page Seven, Section VI. This would be an
establishment of a "sinking fund ". Mr. Stahlberg also explained the
ENR cost index. He also suggested adding highway crossings to the
first paragraph in Section VI and VII.
Mayor Benson asked Mr. Stahlberg to review the items discussed tonight
and then present his total package to the Council. Mr. Stahlberg said
he will run his proposals nassf?d Pon Lanness. City Fiscal F,,r
his suggestions.
Mr. Reinert asked that Page Four, Section IV be spelled out in more
detail. For instance, what will happen when a developer comes into
the City and develops and area on an established street and the street
breaks up because of the abuse of the developer. Presently the entire
City bears the cost of fixing that street.
I Mr. Stahlberg asked that agenda Items 7 through 10 be placed on a
future agenda possibly in two weeks. Item 11 will be placed on
tonight's regular Council agenda.
The Council adjourned at 7:10 PM.
These minutes were considered and approved at a regular council
meeting on March 23, 1987.
MARILYG. ANDERSON
Clerk- Treasurer
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