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COUNCIL WORK SESSION MAY 9, 1988
A special work session of the Lino Lakes City Council, the
Planning and Zoning Board and City Engineer, Ron Stahlberg
was opened by Mayor Benson at 5:38 P.M., May 9, 1988.
Council Members present: Neal, Bohjanen, Bisel, Reinert.
Planning and Zoning Members present: Prokop, Crohn, Joyer,
Irwin and Nelson. City Administrator, Randy Schumacher;
Engineer, Ron Stahlberg; Public Works Director, Don Volk;
Fiscal Agent, Dave MacGillivray and Clerk- Treasurer, Marilyn
Anderson were also present.
Mayor Benson explained the purpose of the Work Session was
to review sewer and water extensions in Lino Lakes. Mr.
Schumacher noted that this meeting was in response to the
Council's request that periodic updates of various boards be
held by the Council.
THE ULTIMATE SERVICE AREA FOR THE WEST CENTRAL TRUNK SYSTEM
Mr. Stahlberg explained the proposed route of the west
central sewer and water facilites. (Beginning at the lift
station on 2nd Avenue and Lake Drive, north on 2nd Avenue to
Elm Street, east to a vacant lot adjacent to St. Joseph's
Church property, north on the vacant lot to a new 35W
frontage road, east to 4th Avenue, north on 4th Avenue to
possibly 77th Street, east on 77th street to Lake Drive.
Mr. Stahlberg noted that he and Mr. Miller have met with all
the affected people in the area of the proposed Sunrise
Meadows subdivision. Mayor Benson felt all the people in
Ulcers Addition up to Elm Street should also have been
notified of these meetings. Mr. Stahlberg explained that
the current lots in this area are 150' wide by 300' deep.
Since the City has now adopted new lot standards, each lot
in the Ulmer subdivision will require a variance when the
owner wishes to subdivide. Mr. Stahlberg suggested that the
code be changed to read that previously platted lots will
not require a variance for subdivision.
There was discussion on whether all the lots could be
subdivided. It was noted that subdivision depended upon
where the house was placed on the lot.
There was discussion on whether an existing home would have
to connect to the sewer and water lines within a certain
time after they are installed. It was explained that the
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current code requires that they connect to the sewer within
one year. Mr. Stahlberg said if this requirement is
enforced, there may be opposition to the extention of the
facilities.
Mr. Stahlberg outlined on a map the new service areas. He
noted that there is considerable amount of pressure to
develop in the south between Birch Street and Ash Street.
Mr. Stahlberg asked the Council if the service area should
be reduced.
Mr. Stahlberg referred to Section 5 where considerable
amount of ditch cleaning is needed. He felt the entire area
would be suitable for development once the ditch cleaning
project was completed. Mr. Schumacher told the Council that
the City Attorney is working on a memorandum that will let
the Council know who is responsible for what ditches. Until
this information is available nothing further can be done.
Mr. Reinert felt this would be a priority. Mr. Stahlberg
explained one of the biggest concerns is that the City does
not have easements for the ditches and the City should not
work on private property. There is also the matter of RCWD
and he noted that the people at the consulting engineering
firm for RCWD have become less rigid in recent days on this
matter.
Mr. Stahlberg was told to keep the service areas as he has
outlined on his map.
MANDATORY CONNECTIONS AND ASSESSMENT PROCEDURES FOR THE
EXISTING PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED SEWER SYSTEM
Mr. Stahlberg asked the Council and the Planning and Zoning
Board for comments on this statement. Mayor Benson said he
felt a real concern for residents on Elm Street and Mr.
Stahlberg said 77th Street as well. Mr. Stahlberg was
concerned that if the current residents were forced to
connect to the utilities they would be in a position to stop
the construction of the facilities.
There also was discussion regarding assessments for current
residents. Should current residents be allowed to defer
their assessments? Should current residents not be assessed
unless they hook up to the facilities? It was noted that
currently the City is using a policy that if the current
resident does not hook up he will not be assessed. However,
when he does hook up he will pay the assessment in the fora
of a hook up charge.
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Mayor Benson asked if Mr. Stahlberg is looking at sewer and
water not getting to the proposed shopping center for a
couple of years. Mr. Stahlberg said financing may cause the
project to be completed in stages and this may take some
time.
THE FINANCIAL CONCERNS OF THE BOND CONSULTANT
Mr. MacGillivray said he is looking at a bond issue for the
construction of the extension of the west central facilites
in the same manner as the 1987 bond issue. That issue did
not involve special assessments as the primary funding
source. The payment of the bonds will be by area fees,
connection fees and some normal assessments. A problem he
sees is that it is not mandatory for current residents to
hook up and he will be guessing as to how any current
residents will hook up. He noted that if there are
insufficient funds to make the bond payments, a city wide
levy will be needed to pay the bonds.
Mr. MacGillivray referred to his letter of May 6, 1988
especially Table 3, Financing Plan Discussion Points. He
pointed out the need for the City to impose restrictions so
that development will occur in the service area and also
provide an incentive for current residents to connect to the
services.
Mr. Stahlberg referred to the eighty acres Mr. Paul Montain
owns next to Reshanau Lake Estates South. He explained a
gravity sewer line is needed to service the area and this
facility will require the help of the rest of the area for
financing.
There was discussion regarding the Sunrise Meadows area and
whether the west central utility project should be
completed in stages. Mr. MacGillivray noted that he is
looking at the prison to help provide the initial financing
for this project making it difficult to develop in stages.
He noted that he needs a better feeling for the total cost
of the project and the expected number of building permits
that will be generated by the project. He will have more
information for the Council when he is provided with these
details. There was discussion on the cost of utilities for
current lot owners. Mr. Stahlberg has established these
costs. Mr. Reinert noted that the residents in Ulmer's
subdivision are looking at a potential assessment of $16,000
to $20,000 and asked if the City could justify that amount
of benefit to each land owner. Mr. Stahlberg explained that
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he has been through the entire program with all the affected
residents in that area. Mrs. Nelson noted that if 2nd
Street is extended there will be a fair number of residents
subdividing their lots. The developer has already provided
purchase agreements to several residents.
Mayor Benson suggested that the City hold a meeting of
affected property owners and explain to them the problems
facing this City. He suggested asking them if they feel
this City should grow and explain that this information is
needed to put together a package and the City needs their
input to make a decision. Mr. Schumacher noted that he, Mr.
Stahlberg and Mr. Miller have already met with nine of the
affected property owners. These owners said they were
willing to accept their fair assessments but are not willing
to put cash up front.
Mr. MacGillivray was concerned for the security of the bonds
that will be issued. He did not want to get into a position
where the City would be required to levy a portion of the
bond payment. He also explained that the City could
establish a housing Tax Increment Financing District.
Mrs. Nelson felt there should be incentives to present home
owners so that they will be encouraged to hook to the new
facilities and possible pass an ordinance that would limit
the permits for repairing or replacing current wells and
septics.
Mr. Bisel said he felt the most important issue is getting
the utilities to the commercial and industrial property near
the freeway.
Mr. Reinert noted that the utility extensions will create
the development of new homes which in turn will create a
greater burden on the school districts. He felt that this
could cause the need for additional schools and an increase
in the school district mill rates.
Mr. Schumacher explained that the Economic Development
Committee feels if this City does not provide the utilities,
the quality of development will not be very good.
Mr. MacGillivray will get figures from Mr. Stahlberg and
provide an overall picture for the Council. Mayor Benson
felt some of the project will be a gamble. He would like to
look at some industrial and shopping development. Mr. Bisel
noted that some people do not look at what is good for the
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City but only what affects their property. Mr. Stahlberg
felt there is a need to update the ordinances to give
residents firm answers.
The meeting adjourned at 7:02 P.M.
Approved this 9th day of May 1988.
MAIL G. ANDERSON
NJAMIN G. BENSON
Clerk- Treasurer Mayor
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