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COUNCIL WORK SESSION
AUGUST 3, 1988
Mayor Benson opened the Work Session August 3, 1988 at 6:08
P.M. Council Members present: Bisel, Neal, Bohjanen,
Reinert. Council Members absent: None. Chief of Police,
Campbell, Roseville Council Member, Robert Mattson and
Clerk- Treasurer, Anderson were also present.
DISCUSSION OF MUNICIPAL GAMBLING ORDINANCE - ROBERT MATTSON,
ROSEVILLE CITY COUNCIL
Mayor Benson explained that Mr. Mattson is here tonight to
discuss with this Council the rules and regulations
regarding gambling and to pass along information regarding
the gambling ordinance in the City of Roseville.
Mr. Mattson gave a brief personal background as well as
detailing his involvement in the City of Roseville's
gambling ordinance creation. He explained how it came to
his attention that there was a great deal of money involved
with charitable gambling and how he helped form the Youth
Football program in Roseville which was funded by proceeds
from charitable gambling. It was apparent within the first
three months of operation that this was a lucrative
operation since it netted more than was needed by the
football program. The North Suburban Youth Association was
formed and in 1987 proceeds from charitable gambling to
support this organization exceeded $120,000.00.
Mr. Mattson explained that it has been very difficult for
the state to regulate this industry. It has become a very
big business attracting unqualified and undersirable people
and has become a wide open ballgame for anyone who wants to
abuse the system. He explained that Minneapolis abolished
all charitable gambling operations until the time that they
could control and re- establish a gambling ordinance. St.
Paul has become very restrictive and is currently at issue
with the state standards. The Roseville ordinance was
established to control and understand what was going on in
the community and probably will be modified from time to
time. There are currently six (6) organizations operating
in Roseville.
Mr. Mattson outlined state requirements for charitable
gambling. He also explained that certain organizations such
as churches can operate up to four (4) games a year but not
earn more than $1,000 per year
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Mayor Benson asked if one organization can operate in more
than one location. Mr. Mattson said yes but Roseville is
looking at limiting the locations to three (3) as well as
limiting licenses to organizations located within the City.
Mayor Benson asked if Roseville requires that the
organization requesting a license donate a specified amount
of the proceeds to the City. Mr. Mattson explained section
125.040 of the Roseville ordinance which outlines the
requirement. He felt this was not too restrictive. Mr.
Bisel expressed concern that the organization may consider
this the top end of their contribution. This City has at
least one organization that is very generous and did not
want to give the impression that they should discontinue
that practice. Mayor Benson asked if more than one
organization can conduct a gambling event at the same
location. Mr. Mattson said yes but on different days.
Mr. Neal asked if Roseville charges for the license
application and the investigation. Mr. Mattson said yes.
It was suggested that Chief Campbell set a budget for
investigation of applicant and training officers for
monitoring games.
Mr. Bisel asked how discrimination laws would affect the
City's ability to deny licenses. Mr. Mattson explained that
the state has some strict rules governing eligibility. He
noted that the City of Roseville denied three groups renewal
of their licenses and were threatened with a law suit.
Nothing materalized. He noted that this City could impose
additional restriction on licenses such as a required number
of years in existence. St. Paul requires that the majority
of funds must be given to youth activities.
There was discussion on what groups in this City could
benefit from conducting gambling operations such as youth
groups, senior programs, mental health organizations and
athletic programs. Mr. Mattson noted that the seniors in
Roseville have not as yet caught on to this method of
obtaining funds.
Mr. Reinert asked how Roseville deals with anti- gambling and
moral issues? Mr. Mattson said this has not been an issue.
He said he did not write the legislation but since it is in
place he felt it should be handled as professionally as
possible.
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Mayor Benson asked if there have been problems other than
investigation regarding gambling. Mr. Mattson said that the
Police Department received two calls in 1987 from family
irembers who expressed concern because a member was spending
too much money gambling. The Police Department went to the
organization and asked them to watch for that particular
person. He explained that the problem for the City will be
to identify problems in management of the games to be sure
they are being operated in an honest and accurate manner.
He felt it was imperative that when problems are noted, they
be corrected immediately.
Mr. Mattson explained that charitable gambling was
established at the Minneapolis /St. Paul International
Airport. Proceeds help fund the USO program, a daycare
center, a beautification program, travelers aid program and
a noise abatement program.
Mr. Mattson explained that he believes that the City should
try to keep out organizations who are in charitable gambling
for the money and to regulate locations so that they do not
charge extortion sized rent. A rental cap could be included
in the ordinance. He felt that the City should endeavor to
license organizations who will keep the money within the
City. Also he noted that the state offers clinics for
gambling managers and suggested that this City require all
managers to provide proof that they have attended this
clinic.
There was discussion regarding the businesses who sell the
gambling games themselves. He noted that some states will
probably be distributing games rather than the dealers.
This is a very competitive business.
Mayor Benson thanked Mr. Mattson for coming this evening and
said that he would like Mr. Mattson to review the
preliminary draft of the Lino Lakes Gambling Ordinance.
Mr. Bisel moved to adjourn at 7:06 P.M. Mr. Neal seconded
the motion. Aye.
REVIEW OF 1988 CITY OF LINO LAKES RESIDENTS SURVEY - LEE
MEHRKENS, MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT
Mayor Benson called this segment of the Work Session to
order at 7 :11 P.M. City Planner, John Miller and Public
Works Director were also in attendance.
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Mr. Miller explained tha the Council authorized Mr. Mehrkens
to prepare a questionnaire to be mailed City wide and then
compile the results of these questionnaires. He introduced
Mr. Mehrkens to the Council.
Mr. Mehrkens thanked the Council for the opportunity to
complete the 1988 Opinion Survey. He said this work is
interesting and enjoyable and this survey showed the same
results and same similarities as other third tier cities.
Mr. Mehrkens briefly gave an overview of the survey. He
noted that the purpose of the survey is to find the
perception of the citizens. Age level of the respondent is
an important factor on how the respondent viewed city
services. Also the age level of the respondent influenced
the demand for certain services. Younger families are
moving into the community changing the needs for services in
the community.
Arnold Kelling noted that people over sixty years of age
have it better today than twenty years ago. He also noted
that people over sixty are used to doing things for
themselves. He suggested this may be a better solution than
spending tax payer money.
Mr. Mehrkens discussed some of the responses to the park
portion of the survey. Some residents felt it was important
to have improved facilities, and then there were residents
who felt a trail system was important. Mr. Mehrkens said
this is one issue that the City will have to deal with.
Pat Smith asked if an overview will be published so that
there will be awareness of what is happening in Lino Lakes.
He noted the community is changing. Mayor Benson explained
no decision has been made as to where we go from here.
Mr. Volk asked if the peopled who want walking /hiking trails
are the silent majority. He has not heard these kinds of
requests at city hall. The organized sports groups are the
most vocal. Mr. Mehrken said that the survey did show that
all age groups want trails. Mr. Karth noted that one reason
there are more groups asking for trails is that younger
people are moving to Lino Lakes from areas that already have
these systems.
Mayor Benson asked for comments from the audience regarding
what they feel was the most negative and positive part of
the survey and where do we go from here.;
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Mr. Kelling said this report is excellent and points out the
need for businessmen for partners. He said the City should
be sitting down with the community businessmen.
John Bauman said Main Street and Lake Drive need cleanup.
He would also like to see a walking trail system. He said
there should be more business and higher valued homes to
help reduce the tax burden.
Bill Nissen said he was suprised that individual sports
rated so high in the survey. He noted in the past group
activities rated higher.
Bob Williams asked if a 31% survey response gives a good
overview of what the citizens needs are. Mr. Mehrkens said
that a 25% response is needed. Mr. Williams suggested that
each part of the survey results be examined and suggested
quarterly meetings of all boards be held to determine what
the City should and should not do.
Ken Johnson suggested that maybe the Park Board should be
encouraging Anoka County to develop services that Lino Lakes
citizens are looking for such as trails within the Chain of
Lakes Regional Park. He noted that the County controls a
great deal of land within Lino Lakes. He was glad to see
support for recreational opportunities.
Candy Toffoli said she thought this was a very good report.
She suggested that Lino Lakes start acting like a big city
by hiring a parks director and providing more community
activities and publicity regarding these activities.
Gary Uhde said he was impressed with the report. He felt
this City was doing its part by working on economic
development. He also felt taxes are a big issue. Mr. Uhde
said this City must face the changing community. Younger
residents are looking for different things such as passive
parks. He noted the first lots to sell usually back up to
passive parks. Mr. Uhde said a water drainage plan is
needed. He said the next challenge should be marketing the
City.
Mr. Reinert asked about the image of Lino Lakes. Mr. Uhde
said he feels Lino Lakes has had a bad image but this is
changing. Executive housing will help. He said the City
should look at some cleanup. Mr. Reinert expressed concern
regarding the condition of the entry corridors to Lino
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Lakes. Mr. Bisel felt the City's image starts before you
even get into Lino Lakes.
Jeff Joyer said he feels image is a real sensitive area. He
suggested a drive through the City with a critical eye. He
noted that upgrading Main Street is a dramatic improvement.
He felt that the walking shoulders of the road should be
tied into trails within subdivisions.
Harvey Karth said this City has a real problem financially
in providing trails and park opportunities that are
requested in the survey. Priority must be set and then the
City should look to the County for providing walking trails.
The City may not have the finances for twenty years. He
suggested that all the Boards get together and then sit down
with the County Parks Director.
There was discussion about preparing another survey in a
year as a basis to see if there are any changes. Mr.
Mehrkens recommended that the City prepare surveys no more
frequently than two to three years. The City can select two
hundred to three hundred residents and tell them they are
the sample people. He said the City should attempt to get a
sixty percent response from the sample people.
John Bauman said he felt good about the survey and said he
felt it proved that the Economic Development Committee is
moving in the right direction. He felt the County Park has
taken a lot of land off the tax rolls and this City should
try to get the greatest possible use from it.
Pat Smith felt information received from the report is
fantistic. In the area of City services, he felt the survey
shows most citizens feel the City is doing a good job. He
suggested that "image" starts at home. He suggested
conducting an awareness campaign. His other suggestions
are: 1) give new residents a welcome package from the City,
2) do something for new businesses, bring in quality
development, 3) educate and make the citizens aware of why
we have this tax situation, 4) make citizens aware of the
hiking and park facilities that are available.
Chief Campbell said he was pleased with the results of the
survey as it concerns the Police Department.
Mr. Volk said he felt the most positive aspect of the survey
was an indication that the City is doing a good job. He
suggested using the survey at budget time.
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Mr. Bisel thanked the Park Board for raising the survey
issue. He thanked Mr. Miller for his participation and
noted that almost all of the Park Board and Economic
Development Committee was present tonight and said this is a
good opportunity to get together. Mr. Reinert said we now
know what one third of the City is thinking. He felt the
City should sit down and prioritize its needs. The City
will have to stretch its dollar. The County Park is a
regional park and at some point we must sit down with the
park officials and ask that trails be put in first. He also
suggested meeting with school boards to discuss mutual
concerns.
Mayor Benson suggested that a future agenda address specific
issues as well as general issues. He asked that the Boards
make recommendations to the Council. He felt that within
ninety days a package should be put together with plans on
how we can implement the suggestions.
Mayor Benson thanked everyone for coming this evening.
STATUS REPORT ON GATEWAY FOODS DISTRIBUTION CENTER
Mr. Miller told the Council that Gateway Foods has expressed
interest in locating its distribution center in either
Shoreview, Blaine or Lino Lakes. They are looking for about
one hundred acres. Plans are to build a $800,000 to
$1,100,000 facity in 1989. They will employ about six
hundred and fifty people with an average annual income of
about $30,000.00. Gateway has been shown two sites in Lino
Lakes.
Mr. Miller said that the staff has agreed to give Gateway a
proposal on both properties. They are interested in Tax
Increment Financing and they are also looking at more land
than they need. It is possible that they may 'sell a portion
of the land to make a profit. The proposed tax base for
this facility is $25,000,000. This will help the short term
tax problem and establish the first large industry in Lino
Lakes. Tomorrow he will be meeting with the bond consultant
for Lino Lakes to determine just how good of a deal the City
can offer Gateway. He said getting the first.,big user is a
must to prime the pump and suggested the City should do
anything short of selling their souls to attract Gateway.
He felt that Gateway is a quality firm and would be an
asset.
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Mr. Bisel suggested that Mr. Miller go to Superior,
Wisconsin and view Gateway's facility in that city.
Mr. Reinert said that Gateway is a whole different ball game
in terms of potential. The City would be better off in
terms of spin off potential.
Mr. Reinert noted that a letter dated July 27, 1988 from
Margaret Langfeld indicated that an ordinance entitled
Source Separation is to be mandated. This is going to cost
this City greatly and asked that this item be put on the
August 22, 1988 Council agenda.
Mr. Bisel moved to adjourn at 9:05 P.M. Mr. Bohjanen
seconded the motion. Aye.
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