HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/03/1988 Council Minutes048
SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING NOVEMBER 3, 1988
Mayor Benson called to order a special meeting of the Lino
Lakes City Council at 4:12 P.M., Thursday, November 3, 1988.
Council Members present: Neal, Bisel, Bohjanen, Reinert.
Council Members absent: none. Police Chief, Dean Campbell;
Fire Chief, Archie Gay; Fire District Chairman, Bill Bruen;
Public Works Director, Don Volk; Accountant, Paula Romocky;
Administrator, Randy Schumacher and Clerk - Treasurer Marilyn
Anderson were also present.
Mayor Benson explained the purpose of this special meeting
was to consider acquisition of computer hardware for
Administration and Police Departments, Review of the 1989
Operating Budget and the 2nd Avenue Sewer and Water
Improvement Project.
REVIEW OF THE 1989 OPERATING BUDGET
Mr. Schumacher and Mrs. Romocky prepared and sent to the
Council a preliminary 1989 Budget. Mr. Schumacher reviewed
the Budget for the Council:
Administration
- One additional staff member, $19,000
including benefits,
Government Buildings- Police /Fire Station, $28,000 first
year (1989) payment. Mr. Schumacher
has put together a 15 year payment
program for this facility. He ex-
plained that the current Lino Lakes
fire station is a temporary facility
and proposes to purchase the three
lots south of this facility to build
this complex. Schedule B included
with the preliminary budget indicates
what the payment schedule could look
like.
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There was discussion regarding using
the site at City Hall for a new fire/
police complex. Mr. Schumacher ex-
plained that updating the current
buildings will not adequately serve
the needs of the future. Also this
could compromise fire response time
although Mr. Bruen said this was not
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a critical concern. Mayor Benson
asked if separating the Administration
facility from the Police facility
would compromise the computer opera-
tions. Mr. Schumacher explained the
proposed Administration computer
system would be entirely separate
fron the Police system.
There was additional discussion re-
garding the possible construction of a
Public Works building. This would
leave additional space for an expand-
ing Administration Department. There
was discussion regarding selling some
of the property at the City Hall site
to help finance a possible Fire /Police
building.
City Hall Sign - Mr. Schumacher ex-
plained that there is no identify-
ing sign at City Hall and a lighted
changeable sign would cost about
$10,000. There was discussion about a
programmable sign which would cost
approximately $50,000.00.
Blue Print Machine, $1,800.00 - This
is needed to reproduce blueprints and
the sale of blueprints will help pay
for the machine.
Fueling Station - Mr. Volk explained
that one gas pump is leaking and parts
are no longer available. In addition
new legislation regarding underground
dispensing units stipulates that dis-
pensing units cannot be located within
30 feet of an occupied building and
City Hall will be required to abide by
the new law. Mayor Benson asked about
relocating the station if City Hall is
expanded north. Mr. Volk explained
all but the ten foot island can be
moved.
Police Department - One new squad, $13,000, Community
Service Officer (CSO) $5,000, Crime
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Fire Department
Civil Defense
Parks Department
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Prevention Officer, $1,500, Alco
Sensors, $1,000 and maintenance of
the canine unit, $600. Chief
Campbell explained the need for a
CSO for animal control, ordinance
violations and nuisance types of
complaints. He suggested a CSO
program for six months with a review
of the program at that time. At this
time these types of concerns are not
receiving justice. Chief Campbell
explained that he would assign the
duties to one of his current officers.
This person will have to be certified
with the computer system and will
assume responsibilities over and above
the duties outlined in the Police Con-
tract. Alco Sensors (alcohol breath
analyzers) is another item needed by
by the Department. The two units
owned by the Department are over
fifteen years old and at this time
only one is operational. These two
are portable units and cannot be used
for evidence.
- There is a proposed 17% increase in
the proposed Fire Department budget.
The new equipment to be purchased
would cost $92,000 and this amount
would be incorporated into the equip-
ment certificate.
- One siren $13,000. Two sirens have
been delivered and will be installed
soon. The proposeddthird siren will
continue the program of placing sirens
throughout the City.
- $15,000 Park Development Fund, $11,000
brush chipper. There was discussion
regarding contracting chipping ser-
vices. Mr. Volk explained the problem
involved with this process. He also
explained that the County is consider -
ing opening a site near the compost
site, for yard_, waste and pruning waste.
Mr. Volk also noted that a chipper
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would be useful to take care of dis-
ease tree problems. Citizens are re-
questing assistance from the City with
chipping problems. The $15,000 Park
Development Fund is an investment from
the City rather than just using
developer's donations.
Public Works Department - Equipment; loader $80,000 in the
equipment certificate, street sweeper
$85,000. Mr. Volk explained the need
for this equipment. He felt time
would be saved and repair costs nearly
eliminated. There was discussion re-
garding whether this equipment could
be purchased with the state bid. Mr.
Volk will check on this. Radios
($2800) are needed to replace the
current radios which are nine or ten
years old. Repairs and maintenance
are exceeding the cost of replacement.
Mr. Schumacher told the Council that their packets contained
a list of items requested by various departments but not
included in the budget. Also a summary of the equipment
included in the certificate was included in the Council
packet.
The revenue portion of the 1989 preliminary budget was
discussed. Mr. Schumacher explained each item. Mrs.
Romocky gave revenue projections for 1988.
Mayor Benson noted that the 1988 Public Works Department
cash flow is far under budget. Mr. Volk explained that a
major expense, saltsand has just been purchased. He also
noted that the overlay program of $40,000 was not completed
and the seal coat program came in under budget. There was
discussion on the overlay program with Mr. Volk explaining
his concern for overlaying large portions of streets where
there are few residents. It was decided to discuss the
definition of complete new streets verses overlay at the
December 3, 1988 special meeting.
Mr. Volk told the Council that if he were to complete the
overlay program, it would cost approximately $200,000. He
asked if the City should share these costs with the
citizens? Mayor Benson reminded the Council that one
objective was to bring all City streets up to a certain
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standard and then implement a new program of cost sharing.
Mr. Bisel said he still goes along with this idea.
Chief Campbell explained that one item not included in the
1989 budget was an additional officer as recommended by the
Task Force. He noted there are not always two cars on duty
twenty four hours a day. He explained that some of the
problems are becoming more violent and when there is only
one car on duty and if that car must go to the jail, the
City is without any service and must rely on mutual aid.
Chief Campbell noted that it takes ten officers to provide
two car, twenty four hour service.
There was additional discussion regarding the cost of
outfitting a new officer, field training time and the time
of year when incidences of crime are higher.
Mr. Volk explained that one item not included in the 1989
budget was his request for a shared Parks and Recreation
Director. He noted that he has been working on this program
for two years and the Park Board looks at this as a critical
item. The school district is also involved in the program.
Mr. Bruen told the Council that he asked the Fire Department
Officers to come up with an initial operating budget. The
initial budget was $321,612. He then met with the
administrators of all three cities and the budget was
reduced to $296,012. An agreement has been reached with the
City of Circle Pines and Centerville will consider the
budget this week. The Lino Lakes share of the proposed
budget is $176,876. Mr. Bruen asked if the Council would
split the difference between the request and what is in the
1989 budget. Mr. Schumacher explained the proposed Fire
Department budget has a 17% increase. Other departments
were increased minimally in comparison.
There was additional discussion about the proposed Fire
Department budget. Mr. Reinert asked for a line item budget
for this department and Mr. Schumacher said he has received
this and will provide a copy to the Council.
Mr. Bruen told the Council he was concerned about the recent
newspaper articles about dissolution of the Centennial Fire
District. He said he understood that this Council's
decisions should be based on the needs of Lino Lakes but it
is having a negative effect and a decision is needed soon.
Mr. Bisel explained he is concerned as to whether or not
Lino Lakes has the best the Council can do for the citizens
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of Lino Lakes. He is not demeaning the Fire Department but
wants to know the long range effect on Lino Lakes.
Mr. Schumacher explained the 1989 budget contains a request
for one additional staff person. Mrs. Anderson has prepared
a job description and a list of duties for this person and
will give the Council a copy of this presentation.
Consultants Budget - Mr. Bisel asked Mr. Schumacher to
outline what expenditures are required by law and what
expenditures are optional. He asked that this information
be placed on the budget worksheet.
Mr. Reinert asked Mr. Schumacher to provide a total expense
figure for City Attorney and City Engineer. He said he is
wondering with all the fees now being paid to consultants,
how close is this City to having its own attorney or
engineer. He suggested that possibly Lino Lakes and
Centerville could share an attorney or engineer. Mr.
Schumacher will do a survey to see at what level other
cities hired in -house staff. Mayor Benson asked Mr.
Schumacher to include the cost of supporting staff and
equipment needed for the in -house person.
Mr. Bisel asked how another police office would be funded.
Mr. Neal asked how soon the new fire equipment could be
ordered. It was explained not until the 1989 budget is
adopted.
Mr. Reinert suggested that the Police Department could
recoup some costs by charging for some services to get some
payback for the CSO officer.
ACQUISITION OF COMPUTER HARDWARE FOR ADMINISTRATION AND
POLICE DEPARTMENT
Mr. Schumacher explained that he has received bids from
AmeriData and Banyon Systems. AmeriData has the hardware
bid for the State of Minnesota and Mr. Schumacher is
recommending that the City accept their bid of $21,701.00
for Administration and $6,866.00 for the Police Department
for a total of $28,567.00. Mr. Schumacher explained that if
this bid is accepted, he will arrange to have the harware
delivered to Banyon Systems who were previously awarded the
software bid and they will install the system at a cost
savings of $4,000.00 over AmeriData. The 1988 Budget
contains $15,000.00 for the computer system and the balance
of the cost will come from reserves.
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Mr. Reinert asked Chief Campbell how long will it take to
get the computer on line after it is delivered. Chief
Campbell said three to four frustrating months.
Mr. Bisel moved to accept the expenditure of $28,587.00 for
computer hardware and have the Administrator amend the 1988
Budget for the additional expense. Mr. Bohjanen seconded
the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
STATUS REPORT ON 2ND AVENUE SEWER AND WATER IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT
Mr. Stahlberg used the overhead projector and showed five
alternative routes for utilities and the route for 2nd
Avenue. Mr. Schumacher explained that he felt that it is
imperative that the Council keep rolling on this improvement
and this is a good opportunity for the Council to review the
alternatives that were given to them at the last Council
meeting.
Mr. Stahlberg explained that the north end near the St.
Joseph's Catholic Church should not be a problem as it
appears to be a consensus of this Council that 2nd Avenue
will dead end at Elm Street and utilities will be extended
across along side the cemetary to near the freeway. When
land is developed north of Elm Street a cul -de -sac can be
extended from 4th Avenue to serve that area. Mr. Stahlberg
has had contact with some people at the Church and they have
said that they will negotiate an easement for utilities if
the City does not put in the street.
Mayor Benson asked the Council if this is what the Council
is interested in doing. Mr. Bohjanen said he felt this
would relieve several problems. Mr. Stahlberg explained
this would eliminate objections from the Fenno's, Smith's
and Thoney's. Mr. Bisel said that the utilities would be
going by open spaces that can never be hooked up and this
could make the utilities more costly for *the users. Mr.
Stahlberg said he would proceed with this plan.
Mr. Stahlberg outlined each of the alternatives in his
letter dated October 19, 1988. Mr. Stahlberg gave the
Council a letter from Braun Engineering and Testing which
outlines how to build in wetlands. This process requires a
great deal of geotectonic monitoring. Mr. Reinert asked if
the fact that the water is lower than normal is factored
into the process. He asked what happens when the water
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table rises again? Mr. Stahlberg explained that in this
area the water table is still near normal.
There was discussion regarding the third alternative which
is realigning 2nd Avenue as proposed in the feasiblity
study. Discussion of buying the affected property and
installing the street and utilites was held. There was a
suggestion that the property can then be resold to recoup
some of the costs. The current property owner would have the
first option to repurchase the property. The current
property owner can also decide to accept damages rather than
sell his property to the City. Mr. Hawkins has indicated
that appraisals can be completed in the next two or three
weeks.
Mr. Reinert felt that maybe buying and selling back the
property was the best route. Mr. Schumacher said this may
be a good public relations move. Mayor Benson asked if the
property on the opposite side of 2nd Avenue from the homes
is resaleable. Mr. Stahlberg said no and in addition this
property would be needed for storm water storage. Mr. Bisel
said this proposal makes a lot of sense.
There was further discussion regarding the fifth
alternative. Mr. Stahlberg explained the disadvantages of
this alternative and said a lot of time was spent putting
together this package and it still does not get the
facilities to where they should be.
Mr. Bisel said he did not like alternative No. 1 because it
would separate the utilities.
Mr. Stahlberg said that basically what he is hearing is that
the properties should be appraised and then negotiate with
the six or seven landowners. Also allow them the
opportunity to get their own appraisers and if an agreement
cannot be reached then follow the condemnation route. Mr.
Bisel suggested that Mr. Schumacher should first meet with
the homeowners to tell them what the Council is considering.
Mr. Schumacher told the Council that they may not get 100%
participation in this plan from the homeowners. Mr. Reinert
said he hoped that they would go along with the majority.
Mayor Benson asked the Council to direct the City
Administrator to contact each individual homeowner and tell
them that the Council is requesting an appraisal of their
property and when this appraisal is completed the Council
will meet with them to discuss the purchase of their
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property. If they agree with the appraisal, purchase of the
property by the City will proceed. If they feel the
appraisal is not appropriate, they can have another
appraisal and the City will allow up to $300 for this
purpose.
Mr. Bisel moved to take the steps outlined by Mayor Benson
and encourage the homeowners to use their own appraisers and
allow them up to $300 for appraiser services and to check
this procedure with Mr. Hawkins. In addition let the
homeowners know that the intent of the Council is to
purchase their homes. Mr. Bohjanen seconded the motion.
Mr. Neal said he did not like this plan. Mr. Bisel said the
alternatives are not good. There was discussion regarding
damages to adjoining property.
Voting on the motion, motion carried with Mr. Neal voting
no.
Mr. Stahlberg said he would notify the DNR to start
processing the original permit application.
Mr. Bisel moved to adjourn at 7:15 P.M. Mr. Neal seconded
the motion. Aye.
These minutes were considered and approved at a regular
council meeting on November 14th 1988.
MARILY i G. ANDERSON
Clerk- Treasurer
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:EN.AMIN G. :ENSON
Mayor