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COUNCIL MEETING NOVEMBER 14, 1988
The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes City Council was
called to order by Mayor Benson at 7:04 P.M., October 14,
1988. Council Members present: Neal, Bisel, Bohjanen,
Reinert. Council Members absent: None. City Engineer, Ron
Stahlberg; Attorney, Bill Hawkins; Planner, John Miller;
Building Inspector, Pete Kluegel; Administrator, Randy
Schumacher and Clerk- Treasurer Marilyn Anderson were also
present.
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Ways and Means Committee Meeting, October 24, 1988 - Mr.
Bohjanen moved to approve these minutes as presented. Mr.
Neal seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
Council Meeting, October 24, 1988 - Mr. Bisel moved to
approve these minutes as presented. Mr. Bohjanen seconded
the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
Special Council Meeting, November 3, 1988 - Mr. Bisel moved
to approve these minutes as presented. Mr. Neal seconded
the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF DISBURSEMENTS
October 31, 1988- Mr. Bisel moved to approve these
Disbursements as presented. Mr. Bohjanan seconded the
motion. Mr. Bisel asked if all expenses have now been paid
for the temporary improvement bond for Rice Lake Estates and
now only the permanent improvement bond is in existence.
Mr. Schumacher.said yes. Voting on the motion. Motion
carried unanimously.
November 14, 1988 - Mr. Bisel moved to approve these
Disbursements as presented. Mr. Bohjanen seconded the
motion. Mr. Bisel noted the expense to Lake Office
Equipment in Forest Lake and asked what effort is being made
to purchase in Lino Lakes. Mrs. Anderson' explained that the
price of the material is her major concern, however she
purchases a large portion of her supplies in Lino Lakes
because the local supplier is very competitive. Motion
carried unanimously.
OPEN MIKE
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Mr. Joseph Marshall an attorney and a member of St. Joseph's
Catholic Church appeared before the Council to explain the
position of the Church in regard to the proposed sewer and
water improvement. He noted that he is representing the
Church in this matter and is also a friendly and interested
member of the community.
Mr. Marshall explained that St. Joseph's is an old historic
church and noted that the cemetery has also been there a
long time. He explained the planned expansion of the
current cemetery. Mr. Marshall displayed a plat map and
noted that these plans were long ago decided, however the
Church has never presented a formal application for platting
additional cemetery lots to the City. With the current
sewer and water proposal before the Council, Mr. Marshall
wanted the Council to be aware that the Church was opposed
to the planned route of these utilites through the Church
property. He explained that the Church did not want to stand
in the way of progress but they did not want the utilities
to go through the cemetery. He further noted that the
planned easements for the utilities would prohibit the use
of the land as it was planned.
Mayor Benson pointed out the planned route of the utilities
through the Church property and explained the easements
would be only 40 feet wide. A temporary easement for
construction purposes would also be needed but would be
released when the construction is completed. Mr. Marshall
felt that this would mean that a substantial amount of land
would not be available for its intended purpose and told the
Council that he felt the most logical route for the utilites
would be along Elm Street where it could immediately benefit
the most people.
Mr. Marshall asked who would compensate the Church for their
loses? Mr. Stahlberg explained the legal process and Mr.
Marshall said the Church was not interested in going through
this. Mayor Benson explained to him the process that the
City has already been through and explained that the City
has already met with delegates from the Church and they
suggested this current route. Also, the Council is already
on record saying this the planned route.
Mr. Marshall said that he plans to present a petition to the
Council to dedicate additional lands for cemetery purposes.
Mayor Benson told him that in all fairness the Council may
not be receptive to all of ,the plans because of the current
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utility plan. Mrs. Anderson will send Mr. Marshall the
necessary application forms.
Mayor Benson told Mr. Marshall that the Council does not
take action on any matters presented under Open Mike. Mr.
Marshall said his purpose this evening was to let the
Council know what are the plans of the Church and to ask the
Council to review their plans and try to find another viable
option. He also asked to be kept informed regarding the
process of the utility extension and asked that notices be
sent to his office as well as the Church.
REVIEW OF JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT, CENTENNIAL FIRE DISTRICT
Mr. Schumacher explained that he has sent the Council a
memorandum summarizing Mr. Cody's letter regarding his
examination of the Joint Powers Agreement (JPA). Mr. Cody's
letter outlines the history of the Joint Powers Agreement
and the questions that have recently been presented
regarding the Joint Powers Agreement. Mr. Schumacher gave
the Council a flow chart and indicated that this chart could
be followed in determining a decision as to whether the City
should continue with the Joint Powers Agreement. He also
noted that this City may want to amend the JPA with a more
equitable formula.
Mr. Reinert expressed concern that the Council may not have
been properly informed as to the terms of the JPA when it
was adopted and felt the other cities have taken advantage
of Lino Lakes. Mr. Hawkins said he did draft the original
agreement, however there were many meetings to negotiate the
final JPA and he did not attend all of them. Mr. Reinert
felt if we cannot negotiate different terms, this may be the
time to pull out of the JPA. Mr. Schumacher suggested
completing the flow chart to let the other two cities know
where we are. Mr. Bisel asked that cost estimates be
determined for forming a Lino Lakes Fire Department so that
there can be a comparison of costs.
Mayor Benson asked Mr. Schumacher to check to determine the
length of the JPA. One date says 1995 and another says
1999. Mr. Bisel explained that he hoped the Fire District
does not interpret this action as this City is not satisfied
with the service. The City is very happy with the service
but would like to know the point of deminishing returns.
Mayor Benson said he trusted that the other two cities would
be open to discussion regarding this matter since Lino Lakes
has been cooperative with them in the past.
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Mr. Bisel expressed his appreciation to Mr. Cody for his
review of the JPA and said this City should proceed with the
flow chart suggested by Mr. Schumacher. Mr. Reinert moved
to proceed with item No. 1, "yes" on the flow chart and have
the information for the November 28, 1988 Council meeting.
Mr. Bisel seconded the motion. Mr. Bisel also asked that
cost estimates be prepared for the option of the City
implementing its own fire department. These figures may
indicate that this City cannot afford to have their own fire
department. Mr. Reinert explained the purpose of the motion
is to move into the "yes" direction of the flow chart to
seek a consensus to more fully define equitability.
Voting on the motion, motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDERATION OF AUDIT SERVICES FOR 1988
Mr. Schumacher has sent to the Council a proposed three year
Agreement for Auditing /Accounting Services from Voto,
Tautges, Redpath & Company. Mr. Reinert asked what was the
basis for the cost. Mr. Schumacher explained that it is
based on a state formula and adjusted for projected hours
for doing the audit. There was discussion regarding whether
the new computer system would make the audit easier and
faster and Mr. Schumacher said he hoped that this would be
the case for the 1989 audit. However, the 1988 audit will
be on the manual basis. Mayor Benson said he was not
unhappy with the current services but felt he could not go
along with a three year contract but felt with the upcoming
automation, costs for auditing should go down.
After further discussion, Mr. Bisel moved to approve the
agreement with Voto, Tautges, Redpath & Company, LTD on an
annual basis for one year to see what effects the computer
system will have on the audit. Mr. Reinert seconded the
motion. Motion carried unanimously.
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD REPORT - JOHN MILLER
Set Public Hearing for Lakes Addition No: 9 for 7:30 P.M.,
December 12, 1988 - Mr. Bohjanen moved to'set this public
hearing. Mr. Reinert seconded the motion. Motion carried
unanimously.
Set Public Hearing for Woodridge Estates for 7:45 P.M.,
December 12, 1988 - Mr. Reinert moved to set this public
hearing. Mr. Neal seconded the motion. Motion carried
unanimously.
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PUBLIC HEARING - PRELIMINARY PLAT, RESHANAU LAKE ESTATES
SOUTH, THIRD ADDITION - JOHN MILLER
Mayor Benson opened the public hearing at 8:05 P.M. Mr.
Miller explained that this plat is a continuation of the .
concept plan and has been reviewed by the Park Board,
Planning and Zoning Board and the City Engineer. The Park
Board and the P & Z Board have approved the preliminary plat
and the only unresolved question is the future of Fox Road.
When the concept plan was presented, concern was expressed
regarding the impact of traffic in Colonial Woods when Fox
Road is completed. However, the City is concerned about
getting emergency vehicles into Colonial Woods in the event
that entry of exit is cut off at 62nd Street. Mr. Miller
noted that a similar concern came before the P & Z Board
regarding Woodridge Estates. The P & Z rejected the idea of
not providing access from one neighborhood to another
neighborhood.
Mr. Miller explained the question of a trail system has not
been resolved. Where will they be located and how will they
be constructed. Mr. Gregg Kopischke of Westwood Planning
displayed a plot map and outlined a proposed trail system on
the map. He said the trails would be graded and a gravel
base would be installed. The City would install the
bituminous surface. Mr. Kopischke said he has been
discussing buffering with some residents in Colonial Woods
and Mr. Uhde has agreed to do some plantings on common
property lines. Mayor Benson suggested that this agreement
should be in writing.
Mr. Stahlberg explained that eventually Deerwood Lane will
start on Birch Street and end at the Montain property line.
In the near future it will be extended across the Montain
property to the extension of 7th Avenue. He also explained
the plan to extend 7th Avenue south to 62nd Street. Mr.
Stahlberg explained this so that the Colonial Woods
residents will understand that even though Fox Road may be
completed, traffic will have other ways to enter or exit
Deerwood Lane. Mayor Benson noted that the major access to
Deerwood Lane would be Birch Street and said that the
residents of Colonial Woods would use Deerwood Lane rather
than 62nd Street when going to Centerville or 35E.
Mr. Reinert asked Mr. Stahlberg what the paramount reason
would be for completing Fox Road. Mr. Stahlberg explained
for emergency vehicles and'-noted an instance last fall when
Colonial Woods could have been cut off by a fire.
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Mike Pojar, 6255 Red Maple Lane - Mr. Pojar felt that Fox
Road would not be a benefit to the residents of Colonial
Woods.
Steve Slatten, 6283 Red Maple Lane - Mr. Slatten explained
that his lot is at the corner of Red Maple Lane and Fox
Road. He noted he has lived there ten years and moved there
because of the atmosphere, the house was reasonably priced
and the lot was large. He was told the land to the north
would never be developed. He said he wanted to salvage some
of the unique character of his area and this could be done
by eliminating Fox Road. He said he chose to live on Red
Maple Lane knowing the risk regarding safety and he
preferred to keep it this way.
Mr. Slatten also expressed a personal concern regarding
erosion, dust and damage to trees during construction. He
noted that Mr. Uhde has tried to allay some of these fears.
He suggested that Mr. Uhde make some lots largers to make a
gradual transition to Colonial Woods but Mr. Udhe was not
receptive to this idea. He also noted that the Council
represented the citizens as elected officials and felt the
Council should listen to their concerns and want to help
them.
Debra Palmquist, 6216 Red Maple Lane - Mrs. Palmquist noted
that there will be 180 houses in Reshanau Lakes Estates
South and they will all be coming south through Fox Road.
She felt that probably no more than fifteen houses are
likely to go north to Birch Street. Mr. Bisel said he could
not envision this happening and explained why would traffic
exit through Fox Road to 62nd Street. Traffic would have to
stop at Ware Road before it goes to Ash Street. This would
not be convenient.
Mr. Pojar said if the Council is convinced traffic will not
use Fox Road, why put it in. Mr. Bisel explained because of
emergency reasons.
Ron Swenson, 6310 Red Maple Lane - Mr. Swenson noted that
Red Maple Lane is basically a long cul -de -sac and also noted
that Mr. Uhde is also building some cul -de -sacs and asked
how Red Maple Lane was any different from the cul -de -sacs in
Reshanau Lake Estates South. He felt the Red Maple Lane was
not subject to any more risks that any other cul -de -sac.
Mr. Reinert suggested placing a gravel road at Fox Drive.
It would have to be plowed, in the winter. Mr. Stahlberg
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explained that the City's subdivision regulations require
that access to adjacent property be provided. These
regulations require the access be blacktopped. Mr. Reinert
suggested that Fox Road not be constructed now but several
years in the future when all the other streets will be
completed. Mr. Stahlberg explained that is what happened in
Shenandoah II and caused the problem this summer with an
adjacent land ower. Mr. Reinert explained funds could be
escrowed for future construction. Mr. Stahlberg explained
the problem with this suggestion is determining a proper
escrow including an inflation factor. Mayor Benson said
that this would allow other exits to the west to be
completed. Mr. Reinert said he did not feel that it is
critical that Fox Lane be completed at this point. Mr. Bisel
noted that the emergency problem would still exist.
Mrs. Monica Slatten, 6283 Red Maple Lane - Mrs. Slatten
asked if what she is hearing is going to happen. She said
when the people from Deerwood Lane want to go to the Tom
Thumb, they will exit Deerwood Lane through Fox Road. She
noted that if just the southern portion of Deerwood Lane
would exit through Fox Road, that would mean more people
from Deerwood Lane would be exiting on Fox Road than what
live in Colonial Woods. Mr. Bisel explained the commercial
development planned for the Birch Street and Hodgson Road
area and said he felt this would help the situation. Mrs.
Slatten felt that it is important that these people not get
into the pattern (habit) of going through Fox Road and
suggested that Fox Road not be constructed at this time.
There was discussion regarding a different method of
providing emergency service to Red Maple Lane without
building Fox Road as in the City of Blaine. It was noted
that this method was used in a quad home development and was
not suitable for this situation.
Mr. Bisel suggested that Fox Road be installed to the
property line in Colonial Woods to avoid the problems
recently addressed in Shenandoah II. A barrier could then
be installed and sometime in the future when development of
Deerwood Lane reaches 75 %, the entire length of Fox Road can
be completed.
Mrs. Palmquist said she would like to see that Fox Read not
be developed until the other east /west street is completed
to 62nd Street. Mr. Bisel said this could be a problem if
the Uhde development is completed before the extension of
7th Avenue to 62nd Street is completed.
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Doug Kruse explained that he had lived in an area such as
Fox Road and he had cars in his yard and racing down the
road through the neighborhood. He noted all the children in
the neighborhood and he wanted them to be able to play
without fear of being hurt by a car. He felt the most
convenient way to get out was to go south. Mr. Bisel said
that the people on Deerwood Lane will also have children and
have the same concerns as you are now expressing. Mr. Kruse
said that if the Deerwood Lane residents are allowed to get
into the habit of going south it will be hard to change even
if going north will be shorter.
Mrs. Slatten said she appreciated the concerns of the
Council regarding public safety but her neighborhood has
done well for ten years and said it is not only safer for
children but also prevents vandalism. She felt the kids in
Reshanau Lake Estates would also be safer. There would
probably be a longer response time for ambulance service but
that is something they could deal with. Mrs. Slatten asked
for a compromise by putting in the street to the Colonial
Woods property line only. People who buy the adjacent lots
will then know that sometime in the future there will be a
road there.
Michael Ball, 6291 Red Maple Lane — Mr. Ball noted the
condition of the roads in Colonial Woods and the condition
of 62nd Street. He explained that when there are periods of
high water, 62nd disappears and explained that more traffic
will only cause these streets to deteriorate faster. Mayor
Benson explained that construction traffic will not use 62nd
Street.
Mr. Ball asked if 62nd Street and Red Maple Lane were built
to specifications. Mayor Benson explained that
specifications have changed during the years.
Mrs. Slatten said that on June 13, 1988, the Council
proposed a study of impact of traffic from Birch Street to
Red Maple Lane. Mr. Stahlberg explained that the Council
has directed him to review the traffic flow in the Reshanau
Lake Estates subdivion and he has done this. That is why
the road layout had changed.
Pojar explained that when he received a letter regarding
this public hearing, he called Mr. Schumacher and Mr.
Stahlberg about drainage since the road behind him will be
about four feet higher than the present elevation. Mr.
Stahlberg explained that the road will not cause a barrier
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in drainage because of the construction of catch basins and
storm sewers. The water will end up in a pond on the north
side of the street. Mr. Pojar asked about drainage from his
area when Deerwood Lane is extended to the west. Mr.
Stahlberg explained the developers of the Montain property
will also be required to develop holding ponds, and water
will be diverted through the storm sewer to these ponds.
Mr. Miller explained that a developer cannot block drainage
so it would create flooding on adjoining property.
Mr. Bisel moved to close the public hearing at 9:20 P.M.
Mr. Bohjanen seconded the motion. Motion carried
unanimously.
The Council continued discussing Fox Road and completing it
to the Colonial Woods property line. Mrs. Slatten asked who
will pay for the road that is extended into Colonial Woods.
Mr. Schumacher explained that usually the adjoining property
benefits from the road and is assessed. This would be
determined at an assessment hearing.
Mrs. Palmquist asked why the Council is considering
completing Fox Road when a certain percentage of development
is completed in Reshanau Lake Estates. It was explained
that when this occurrs Deerwood Lane will probably be
extended to the 7th Avenue extension.
Mr. Bisel moved to approve Phase III of Reshanau Lake
Estates South as recommended by the Planning and Zoning
Board, City Planner and Engineer with the following
conditions: 1) Fox Road will be stubbed and completed to the
Colonial Woods property line; 2) after 75% of the platted
lots are sold, the people in Colonial Woods be notified
about the possible extension of Fox Road and a hearing to be
set; 3) buffer (screening) be established between Colonial
Woods and Phase III mutually agreed upon by the residents
and City Staff and be specified in writing with complete
plans and time frame noted and all other aspects of the
preliminary plat to be approved by the Staff and City
Planner. Mr. Reinert seconded the motion: Motion carried
unanimously.
Mayor Benson thanked the residents for their input and Mrs.
Slatten thanked the Council for making the compromise.
PUBLIC HEARING - TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PLAN
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Mr. Miller explained that some items remain uncompleted and
the bond attorney has suggested that this item be tabled
until all information is received. Mr. Reinert moved to
table this item and place it on the December 27, 1988 agenda
at 7:30 P.M. Mr. Bohjanen seconded the motion. Motion
carried unanimously.
ENGINEER'S REPORT - RON STAHLBERG
Consideration of Resolution No. 81 - 88, Requesting
Feasibility Study for Reshanau Lake Estates South. Third
Addition. Mr. Reinert moved to approve Resolution No. 81 -
88. Mr. Bohjanen seconded the motion. 'Motion carried
unanimously.
CITY OF LINO LAKES
RESOLUTION NO. 81 - 88
RESOLUTION DECLARING ADEQUACY OF PETITION AND ORDERING
PREPARATION OF REPORT FOR RESHANAU LAKES ESTATES SOUTH,
THIRD ADDITION
BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF LINO LAKES, MINNESOTA:
1. A certain petition requesting the improvement of
Reshanau Lake Estates South, Third Addition, filed
with the Council on November 14, 1988, is hereby
declared to be signed by the required percentage of
owners of the property affected thereby. This de-
claration is made in conformity of Minnesota Statutes,
Section 429.035.
2. The petition is hereby referred to Mr. Ron Stahlberg,
City Engineer and he is instructed to report to the
Council with all convenient speed advising the Council
in a preliminary way as to whether the proposed im-
provement is feasible and as to whether it should best
be made as proposed or in connection with some other
improvement, and the estimated cost-of the improvement
as recommended.
Adopted by the Council this
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in G Benson, Mayor
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Marilyn Anderson, Clerk - Treasurer
ATTORNEY'S REPORT - BILL HAWKINS
Mr. Hawkins did not have a report.
OLD BUSINESS.
Set Meeting with City of Centerville - This meeting will be
set at the November 28, 1988 Council meeting.
'League Legislative Conference, November 16, 1988 - Mr.
Schumacher asked if any of the Council Members would be
attending this meeting. There will be several important
issues discussed. All Council Members did have previous
commitments and Mr. Schumacher will attend and bring back
information for the Council.
Set Budget Meeting - Mr. Bisel moved to set this meeting for
6:00 P.M., November 28, 1988. Mr. Neal seconded the motion.
Motion carried unanimously.
Status Report on Conditional Use Permits - Mr. Kluegel has
prepared a list of CUP holders who have not fulfilled the
conditions of their permits. Letters were sent to all the
people on his list and now he does not have a problem with
any of them. Molin Concrete has had a deadline established
for next spring to complete all of their permit, Bob's Auto
Ranch is no longer displaying vehicles on the grass, Paul
Wolters has established a fence across the back of his
property, Mr. Spetzman has changed some of his employee
parking areas, Mr. LaMotte has removed the piles of dirt
from his property, Mr. Houle has removed the wood pile and
has planted some evergreens across the front of his
property, and Mr. Klenck has been warned that there will be
no more 'after of fact' permits allowed on his property.
Mayor Benson asked about the permit request from My Place on
the Lake. Mr. Kluegel explained that he-is in contact with
the CORP and some of the fill may have to be removed. He
will keep the Council updated on this matter.
Mr. Kluegel told the Council that he has already issued more
single family residential permits than all of 1987. The
permits have exceeded 152.
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Mayor Benson asked if Mr. Sikorski has replied to the letter
requesting his presence to explain the Drinking Water Act.
Mr. Schumacher said there has been no response but does
expect that there will be one.
NEW BUSINESS
Affirmative Action Plan - The Council has received a
memorandum from Mr. Tesch regarding this matter. Mr. Tesch
is preparing a draft affirmative action plan as required by
the State. This plan will follow the state general
guidelines. As the City grows larger a more specific plan
may be required.
General Election Update - Mrs. Anderson prepared and sent to
the Council a summary of the 1988 General Election results.
She explained that she has heard a number of complaints
regarding the location of polling places in this City and is
currently looking at recommendations for the City Council on
this matter. There was discussion regarding another polling
place on the east side of the City. Mrs. Anderson will
check with the State Elections division and let the Council
know what the procedures and requirements are for
establishing another polling place.
The Council asked Mrs. Anderson to send a letter to the
Election Judges thanking them for their services. Mrs.
Anderson will include this letter with their pay checks.
Mr. Bisel said he felt the citizens of Lino Lakes should be
complimented for the large turnout for the election.
Gateway Foods - Mr. Schumacher explained that Gateway Foods
has invited the Council to visit their facility in LaCrosse,
Wisconsin on either the 28th or 29th of November or the 1st
of December. Mr. Schumacher will let the Council know the
exact date.
Mr. Bisel asked that a thank you letter be mailed to Mr.
Reinhart.
Mayor Benson has received a request that this City go on
record as supporting Mr. Andy Cardinal for reappointment to
his position on the Rice Creek Watershed District board.
Mr. Reinert moved to support Mr. Cardinal. Mr. Neal
seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
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Mayor Benson has received notice that the Lino Lakes
representatives term on the Circle Pines Utility Commission
is expiring. Mr. Bisel asked that Mr. Ross be reappointed
with the recommendation that he report to the Council on a
regular basis.
Mayor Benson noted that the Chamber of Commerce is having a
social on December 7, 1988 at the Lino Lakes City Hall. The
Lino Lakes Economic Development Committee will be making a
presentation.
Mayor Benson asked Mr. Schumacher to report on the progress
of the Uhde ponds in Lakes Addition No. 3. Mr. Schumacher
told the Council that about 90% of the work is completed.
The sod is in place but not all of the holes have been
filled and graded.
Mr. Bisel moved to adjourn at 10:02 P.M. Mr. Bohjanen
seconded the motion. Aye.
these minutes were considered and approved at a regular
council meeting on November 28th 1988.
MARIL1 . ANDERSON
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