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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06/11/1974 Council Minutes12 The minutes were approved at the June 24, 1974 meeting. June 10, 1974 Clerk -Tre a ure r June 11, 1974 The special meeting of the Lino Lakes City Council was called to order at 8:05 p.m. on June 11, 1974 by Mayor Bohjanen. Councilmen present; Jaworski, Marier, McLean, Zelinka. Mr. Locher, Mr. Carley and Mr. Gotwald were also present. Mr. Karl Burandt of the Metropolitan Council Staff was here to explain his report dealing with the Lino Lakes - Centerville interceptor. Mr. Ray Payne of the Metro Sewer Board was present. Mayor Prachar, Councilmen Murray, Burgue, Anderson and L'Allier of Centerville and Mrs. Marcello, Centerville Clerk was also present. Mayor Bohjanen explained that this meeting had been scheduled for the purpose of discussing Mr. Burandt's report. He turned the meeting over to Mr. Burandt. Mr. Burandt gave the Mayors copies of Metro Development Framework Interim Policies and a Metro Report. He read from the report which basically says that development should be curtailed in the fringe area and the now sewered areas built up to capacity before sewer lines are extended. These are the lands nearest the core Cities. He read the five points that set the tone of this report; 1) The plan should encourage contiguous development extending outward from the core cities and fully developed suburbs without skipping over large open areas already provided with central sewers. 2) The plan should not require other urban services to be prematurely provided such as roads, schools, local utilities and governmental services. 3) The plan should not open up large areas to development with long expensive sewer lines at an early date. 4) The plan should relieve pollution problems where necessary without inducing development. 5) The plan should provide for meeting local sewer needs where necessary. He went to detail as to why the Lino Lakes portion of the interceptor would be brought to the City limits. He recommends that Centerville be sewered through the Forest Lake interceptor and that this can be done with a full gravity flow system. Mr. Bohjanen asked if he has consulted with the City Engineers and if he had used the City's comprehensive land use plan in formulating this recommendation? Mr. Burandt said that he had used the City's land use plan, the NSSSB report, MSB studies and the North area study. Mr. Bohjanen asked if all these reports had been consulted and studies why did his 1 1 1 June 11, 1974 recommendation differ with all other studies? Mr. Burandt said that in his recommendation he had stayed within the planned growth plan. Mr. Zelinka challenged the fact that in all the maps presented in this report, that all areas on either side of Lino Lakes and to the North of the City are sewered and Lino Lakes is completely ignored as to sewering. He brought out the point of the need for arterials for transportation, noting that with the two interstates crossing Lino Lakes, there would be no need for further highway construction such as would be necessary in the area that would be served by the Rum River interceptor. Mayor Bohjanen pointed out to Mr. Burandt that at the last NSSSB meeting, this body had passed a resolution supporting the full flow gravity system for the Lino Lakes - Centerville interceptor. He also brought out the fact that in the North Area Study conducted by the NSSSB, Lino Lakes and Centerville were not even mentioned. Mr. Payne felt that this was not an oversight, that it was a forgone conclusion that the Lino Lakes - Centerville interceptor would be built and this study had already been completed. Mr. Marier asked if this was a Political report or a comprehensive report? Mr. Burandt said that he had tried to make it a comprehensive report and reminded the Council that he is just a Staff person and does as he is told. Mr. Marier felt that this is strictly a Political report and questioned the paragraph on page 2 that reads: The above Council action was intended to direct the Sewer Board to provide sanitary sewer service for Centerville as a primary reason for the project. Any other service provided by the line was to be regulated by the Metropolitan Council policy of EXTENSIONS OF INTERCEPTORS IN OPEN LAND. Mr. Marier felt that this statement was not on record, and asked Mr. Burandt what he meant by that statement. Mr. Burandt said that this paragraph had been lifted from the minutes. He felt that the purpose of the interceptor was to relieve the pollution problem in Centerville and the fact that the line went through Lino Lakes was incendential. The Council disagreed with Mr. Burandt. No thought was given to the sewering of Centerville until the plan to sewer Lino Lakes and particularly Country Lakes was recommended. The extension of the line to Centerville was an afterthought. Mr. Zelinka asked if the consideration of a second major airport in the North area was the reason for the pushing of the Rum River interceptor? If this is the reason, then he felt that this is bad timing because once the interceptor is installed, construction will follow and the cost to clear this land for an airport could be prohibitive. June 11, 1974 Mr. Burandt said the airport had not been considered. The main purpose is to relieve the Anoka Treatment plant which is only working at 57% capacity. He said the sewage from Anoka is in the Minneapolis water system six hours after leaving Anoka. Mr. Jaworski returned to the paragraph on Page 2 concerning Centerville as the primary area to be sewered. He repeated the earlier statement that the consideration of Centerville only came after the Lino Lakes line had been recommended. He questioned the requirements necessary for an interceptor to be designated as a Metro Line. Mr. Burandt said that servicing more than one community was not required. He pointed out the criteria necessary for the designation of a Metro Line. This refers to 1000 acres of land or all or a major portion of a community. Mr. Zelink a agreed with Mr. Marier in that this is a Political report. He pointed out to Mr. Burandt that the Highways had taken many acres of land for the construct- ion of the two major interstates crossing Lino Lakes and the fact that Anoka County had taken some 3500 acres of land and lakes for open space. It would seem to him, that in view of all that has been taken from the City of Lino Lakes, that the Metropolitan Council should be trying to assist the City to assume a normal growth pattern instead of curtailing all growth with the denial of sewers. Mr. Marier questioned Point 4 at the bottom of Page 6. He recommends not skipping through open lands and then recommends allowing additional capacity in the NSSSB line for Blaine and the sewering of Ham Lake and Columbus by the 2000. How can these two statements mean the same thing? Mr. Burandt explained that the 36 inch at the Circle Pines limits is assigned to certain Communities. The plan is to utilitze this line to capacity in order not to have to install another major interceptor before the year 2000. Mr. Marier questioned the statement "do not go over open lands" an interceptor must go through open lands for the proper survival of Lino Lakes and Centerville. These two communities cannot survive without an interceptor. Mr. Brandt said that he had met with Mr. Carley on Monday and had gone over the comprehensive sewer plans for Lino Lakes and Centerville.' He did not use those plans because it would spread the capacity too far to the East. He felt that this capacity should be reserved. Mr. Marier asked where the Metro Sewer Boards Study and Plans were? Mr. Burandt felt that this study did not cover all the area that it should have. Mr. Bohjanen reminded Mr. Burandt that we have a State facility sitting on a creed that flows directly into the chain of lakes. There was some discussion on the North Road interceptor with Mr. Burandt saying the plan to enter this interceptor at County Road J and Lexington is a good plan because the capacity at that point is greater than on North Road. 1 1 1 1 1 June 11, 1974 Mr. Bohjanen felt that before this recommendation could have been written that the Engineers of both communities should have been consulted. He wondered where the information this report was based on was obtained. Mr. Zelinka asked Mr. Burandt, if by whatever means, the City of Lino Lakes could finance an internal interceptor and the lateral system, and we requested permission to hook on to the interceptor, would this be allowed? Mr. Burandt said, Yes. Mr. Zelinka said that basically what this report is saying is that we can build our own system and the capacity is there but he will not recommend that we get any assistance. Mr. Bohjanen repeated his question as to where the information was obtained for the basis of this report. Mr. Burandt said he looked at the total overall North area. The Rum River interceptor or Brooklyn Park interceptor would serve Grow and Ramsey townships but there was nothing between there and the Forest Lake interceptor. He was merely trying to utilize the present lines to the best advantage and to plan so that another major interceptor would not have to be constructed in this area in the future. Mr. Bohjanen felt that since his report was already written when he consulted with Mr. Carley this report did not reflect the input of the City Engineers. Also, a gravity flow system is less costly to install and maintain that a force main. Mr. Carley design is almost entirely gravity flow. There was discussion as to the lift stations that would be necessary if Centerville is sewered through the Forest Lake interceptor. Mr. Burandt felt that this entire system would be gravity flow with a lift station to service the low area around the lake. Mr. Carley said the system designed to service Centerville through Lino Lakes is a full flow gravity system with a lift station being needed for about 15% of Centerville. This being area around Centerville and Peltier Lakes. Mr. Murray from Centerville felt that Centerville could not be sewered through the Forest Lake interceptor by gravity. He said that a gravity system cannot be built from Centerville to Hugo. Mr. Ray Payne of the Metro Sewer Board wanted to assure the Council that Lino Lakes and Centerville had not been left out of the North Area Study. The areas of study had been defined as planning problems. There had already been a feasibility study done for Lino Lakes and Centerville. He felt that this problem had been taken care of with this study. A gentleman from Centerville asked if the development in Centerville will have to be curtailed or if the building in Forest Lake would be cut back because of the inclusion of Centerville in this interceptor. Mr. Payne said, No, the capacity in this interceptor is adequate for both. Mr. Zelinka asked Mr. Burandt to read paragraphs 2, 3, 4 and 5 on page 10 and explain what he meant. i0 June 11, 1974 Mr. Burandt read the first paragraph and agreed that it was very badly worded but did not give a satisfactory explanation. The remainder of the paragraphs were read and discussed with the Council feeling that these statements are very misleading and capricious. Mr. McLean asked where Mr. Burandt got his figures as to projected population growth? Are they projected as to how they want the area to grow? Mr. Burandt said this was not the case. Mr. McLean replied that this fact is a matter of records of minutes. There was discussion with the Centerville Council. They asked if the City is sewered through Forest Lake interceptor, would Centerville be required to oversize its lines in order to provide service to that portion of Lino Lakes that the lines would run through? Mr. Burandt said, No, that the consideration to sewer the Eastern part of Lino Lakes would not be considered. Maybe a quarter mile or so on either side of County road 14 and 135E but that was all. There was discussion of the problem of crossing under the Freeway, the size of the lines and the number of lift stations necessary. Mr. Burandt said that an interceptor could not be built into Lino Lakes because this community is the end of the line and would only be brought to the City limits. Any construction from there would be the responsibility of the municipality. This would hold true for the North Road interceptor as well as the one from County Road J and Lexington. This is because the portion of the line within Lino Lakes is not considered an interceptor but a collector. The Clerk felt that the Cities of Lino Lakes and Centerville are being penalized because they happen to be the end of the line. Mr. Zelinka moved to adjourn at 10:00 p.m. Seconded by Mr. (Jaworski. Aye. ,' The minutes were approved at the June 24, 1974 meeting. Clerk-Treasurer