HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/20/1975 Council MinutesAUGUST 20, 1975
The Special Meeting of the Lino Lakes City Council was called to
order at 9:00 P.M. by Mayor Bohjanen. Councilmembers present:
Jaworski and Marier. Absent: McLean and Zelinka. Mr. Locher, Mr.
Gotwald and Mr. Starr were also present.
Mr. Ray Payne, Metropolitan Waste Control Commission, Mr. Jim Barton,
Metropolitan Council Staff and Rep. Nelson were also in the audience.
Mayor Bohjanen announced the purpose of this meeting: the memo on the
sewer problems and their porposed solution as prepared by Metropolitan
Council Staff. Mrs. Peterson and Mr. Burandt had been invited to attend
this meeting but could not due to a prior scheduled meeting. Mr. Boland,
Mr. Dougherty and Rep. Oberstar also had prior committments.
Mayor Bohjanen asked Mr. Gotwald if he had a further report other than this
memo and Mr. Gotwald said, No.
Mr. Jaworski asked Mr. Ray Payne if the Metropolitan Waste Control
Commission had been included in the discussion that was the basis for
this memo? Mr. Payne said they had not. Mr. Jaworski understood the
cha -rge from the Metropolitan Council was that the discussion
should be with the Metropolitan Waste Control Commission staff, Metropolitan
Council staff, and representatives from Lino Lakes.
Mr. Payne said that was true, however, they have prepared their recommenda-
tions based on this memo and had delivered it to Mr. Boland on this date.
Mr. Marier asked Mr. Barton how this one -sided report came about? Why
weren't the other parties included in the discussions?
Mr. Barton said that he was not in on these meetings and he did not
have an answer. He had received a copy of the recommendations from the
Metropolitan Waste Control Commission on this date and did not feel that
he was in a position to discuss those recommendations.
Mr. Jaworski asked why this type of procedure. One staff presents a
proposal, another writes a rebuttal, and the report goes from one staff
to another and back again. If all interested parties were included in one
discussion thisidealy could be avoided.
Mr. Barton said he felt that progress has been made. When Mr. Marier asked
for a conclusion date on this, Mr. Barton said within the next several weeks,
by the end of the month at the latest.
Mr. Jaworski asked the purpose of all the requirements listed in this
memo. He felt that the problem should be solved and then talk about
these other things.
Mr. Barton agreed, however, he felt these are things that the Council
should be aware of and thinking about.
Mr. Jaworski apologized for his use of the word, but he felt these
requirements are a means of blackmail. He thought the Metropolitan
Council was using the interceptor to say 'either you do things our
way or no interceptor.' Mr. Jaworski felt that the Comprehensive Land
Use Plan confirms many of the items listed in this memo and that this plan
is the result of Metropolitan Council's recommendations and not necessarily
that of the City.
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Mr. Barton asked how the City had proposed things differently?
Mr. Marier siad the plans of the City were not definite enough so the
planning stages of development were the decision of the Metropolitan Council.
Mr. Marier felt that working together means the airing of all views and
coming to a decision that both parties can live with.
Mr. Gotwald was asked if he had met with Mr. Burandt. Mr. Gotwald said,
Yes, Mr. Burandt had come to his office for the purpose of acquiring the
correct footage of the interceptor as prepared by Mr. Gotwald's office.
Mr. Burandt had used those measurements and the cost estimates also in
the preparation of the cost figures in his memo.
Mr. Gotwatd was asked if a decision on the type of interceptor has
been made. Mr. Gotwald said, No, the least costly in the overall
picture is the gracity system but this system is in direct conflict
with the Development Framework Guide Plan.
Mr. Barton was asked if he had attended any of the meetings and he said,
No.
Senator Milton arrived.
Mr. DeVries asked if there is a time shcedule. She was told no.
Mr. Payne wanted to clairfy the memo. This was prepared by the Metropolitan
Council Staff. There has been one meeting since this report but since most
of the persons involved with this report were not at that meeting, no attempt
was made to resolve the differences. The Metropolitan Waste Control
Commission had prepared their comments and recommendations and presented
them to Mr. Boland on this date.
Mr. Jaworski asked if he would be out of line if he asked what had
been recommended.
Mr. Payne said the recommendation was for the full flow gravity system
Mr. Jaworski asked if it was possible for the Metropolitan Waste Control
commission, Metropolitan Council Staff and Lino Lakes to get together
in the next week?
Mr. Barton felt that this could be arranged. Mr. Barton said the type
of interceptor should be decided upon before September or by the early
part of that month.
Mr. Marier asked about the timing for construction once the decision is
made. Mr. Payne said that after the type of interceptor is decided and
approved, his staff will prepare plans and specifications. This includes
soil borings, surveys and deciding the route the interceptor is to take.
Then advertising for bids and accepting a bid for this project. this could
take up to six months to accomplish. construction of the interceptor could
take another six months to one year.
Mrs. Devries asked if anyone had approached Mr. Rehbein about installing
a holding tank in-<he Shenandoah area?
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Mr. Gotwald said that it had been discussed but this cannot be done
until the approval of the interceptor.
Mr. Payne said that they are well aware of the problems of the people in
that area and he felt that this development would get service. He was
asked what constituted a firm committment and Mr. Payne said agreement
on a recommendation for the interceptor.
The subject of the streets in Shenandoah was brought up. These cannot
be finished until the sewers are in. Since this is another subject, it was
dropped.
Mr. Jaworski asked how long it would take to do the surveying? Mr. Payne
felt that this could be completed in about four months depending on the
season. He felt that they are looking at the 1976 construction season.
Mr. Jaworski asked, if once the plans and specs were completed, would
there be a starting date? Mr. Payne said, Yes, once the plans and specs
are completed, they are sent to all agencies concerned for approval.
Once they are approved then a date can be set for bids. Depending on
size and location, Mr. Payne felt that the Waste Control Commission would
strive to have the interceptor operational by next summer.
Mr: Payne was asked if they would consider pumping the sewage from Shenandoah
much in same manner as Country Lakes. Mr. Payne said, Yes, if the developer
installs the collector system and a holding tank is installed, their
Metropolitan Waste Control would participate in the cost of hauling as in
Country Lakes.
Mr. Payne was asked about the limit on the number of homes that 'will be
allowed. Mr. Payne said once the interceptor is approved, the number
of homes is immaterial.. Both Country Lakes and the Shenandoah project
could develop.
Mr. Jaworski felt that the City could see an end to the hauling by the
end of 1976. Mr. Mariers asked "At whose cost ?" Mr. Jaworski said,
"Metropolitan Waste Control."
Mr. Marier said the local collector system must be approved by the
Metropolitan Council.
Mr. Payne said once the committment of an interceptor is made, the
approval of a local collector system should present no problem. This
area is not in conflict with the Comprehensive Sewer Plan or the Land
Use Plan.
Mr. Marier asked what happens if the truck presently being used to haul
sewage breaks down - who supplies a replacement?
Mr. Payne said the Metropolitan Waste Control is paying Lino Lakes to
haul the sewage.
Mr. Marier siad the truck was paid for by Lino Lakes and all tax
payers are sharing the costs.
Mr. Jaworski felt that the Metropolitan Waste Control is picking up a
portion of that cost in the depreciation cost computed into the City's
cost of hauling the sewage.
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One man made note of the fact that Mr. Rehbein had offered to haul the
sewage himself.
Mr. Jaworski asked that a meeting be set as soon as possible after the
recommendation is received.
Mr. Barton felt that that should be within the next week or two at
the most. He will call the offices tomorrow with a definite date.
The special meeting was tentat'i'vely set for September 9, 1975.
Mr. DeVries requested that the Council meet with Mr. Rehbein on the
installation of a holding tank after the committment on the interceptor.
Mr. Barton said there would be ample time for modification of the
Comprehensive Plan during construction of the interceptor.
Sen. Milton felt that progress is being made and he also felt that the
Council should meet with Mr. Rehbein on the holding tank concept. Rep.
Neison asked that he be informed of coming meetings. Mr. Jaworski
moved to adjourn at 10:00 P.M. Seconded by Mr. Marier. AYE.
These minutes were approved at the September 8, 1975 Council Meeting,
unless Legal Opinion otherwese states.
CLERK TREASURER
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