HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/22/1979 Council MinutesAugust 13, 1979
There was discussion on this matter, with Mayor Karth stating that all
dogs must have license and they must have proof of rabies in order to
obtain those license. This rule would apply to farm dogs as well as all
other dogs. However, Mayor Karth felt that something could be consider-
ed in the area of leasing. Mr. Locher will study the Ordinance and pre-
sent some recommendations at the next Council meeting. In the meantime.
the people were advised to get the rabies shots and obtain their licenses.
Some residents from the Vicky Lane area presented a request to the
Council that North NorthEast Realty be required to install the trees
on their common lot line. There was also some discussion on the drainage
of the parking lot and the conditions at the Tom Thumb Store.
The Clerk was instructed to pull the file on the construction of North
NorthEast building and the requirements imposed by the Planning and Zoning
at that time.
Mr. McLean moved the Clerk be instructed to pull the minutes on North
NorthEast relating to screening on West boundary - a letter be sent to
Mr. Kenneth Rehbein asking to fulfill before the end of October. Seconded
by Mr. Schneider. Motion declared passed.
Mr. McLean moved to approve checks #9866 through and including #9923,
with #9873 being void. Seconded by Mr. Schneider. Motion declared passed.
Mr. Locher had checked on the insurance proposal as presented by the Lions'
Club for liquor liability and felt this is not necessary. He felt the
only insurance needed is a copy of the Lions' International Insurance
that is carried with Globe.
Mr. McLean moved to adjourn at 12 :45 A.M. Seconded by Mr. Kulaszewicz.
Aye.
These minutes were considered and approved at the regular Council meeting
held on August 27, 1979.
Edna L. .darner, Clerk - Treas.
August 2/7, 1979
The special Council meeting was called to order at 8:05 p.m., August 22,
1979 by Mayor Karth for the purpose of resolving the interpretation of
Ordinance No. 56, Sections 6.21 and 5.04, in regard to special use permits,
No. 27 in particular. Members present; Robert Schneider, John McLean,
and Richard Kulaszewicz, arriving late. Members absent; Richard Zelinka.
Also present were Mr. Locher, City Attorney; Mrs. Sarner, City Clerk;
Herman Talle and Mr. Balckbird representatives for the developer; and Mr.
Benson, chairman of the homeowners group. Alos present in the audience
were residents from the area in question.
Mr. Locher had prepared a letter to the Council in reference to the research
he had pursued on the special use permits and the interpretation of Ord.
No. 56. The letter was read by Mr. Locher, and copies were made availabl
to Mr. Benson and Mr. Talle. Mayor Karth asked if there were any ques-
tions from the Council. In answer to a question by Mr. McLean, Mr.
Locher indicated that in order to amend the Ordinance, there must be
publication and a public hearing set. A man from the audience had a
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question as to whether all special use permits issued prior to the adopt-
tion of the ordinance must conform to that ordinance; Mayor Karth said
that special use permits as well as rezoning must comply with section
6.21. He further inquired as to whether the assumption could then follow
that if there was a change in the building code, that existing homes must
change to comply with changes in the building code; if the reasoning could
apply in one sense, why not another? Mr. McLean indicated this had just
dealt with zoning, and Mr. Locher pointed out that the City of Minneapolis
had been going through houses and forcing people to bring them up to code,
and also required a city inspection prior to the sale of a house; however,
this had not yet been tested in the courts. Mr. Benson and Mr. Talle
were asked for their comments, and then the meeting was opened to discussion
from the audience. A man in the audience asked if he was correct in assum-
ing that if the Council saw fit to revoke special use permit #27, then they
must go back through the files and reconsider every special use permit
to see if it conformed to thatparticular ordinance. The Council indicated
that if they took the action advised, this would be the case. Mr. Locher
explained that if, for example, the riding stables were still in existance
and had been under a special use permit, they would be allowed to continue.
Another section of the ordinance might also be considered; it said taht
any non - conforming use of the open land may be continued for a period of
3 years after the effective date of the ordinance whereupon the non -con-
forming use shall cease. Anything in violation could be tagged. Mr. McLean
asked what the City's position on this would be since this had not been
done. Mr. Locher indicated that this situation would be analagous to a
man who speeded for years in a 30 mph zone and had never been caught be-
cause of an inadequate police force; if he was arrested, this would never
stand up on court. Mr. Jaworski brought up a point that had once come
up before the Council; that of small businesses in homes where there were
no special use permits or rezonings involved for that particular use, yet
there had been action taken by the Council to grandfather all those businesses
in so they could continue operation. Mr. McLean felt in that case, they
had not been intentional only but had been in actual physical existance.
Mr. Locher indicated section 6.21 covered home operations as well, and read
the pertaining section. Mayor Karth felt if this was enforced for sepcial
use permit #27, it would have to be enforced everywhere; Mrs. Sarner asked
if public hearings must be set on all of those that would be invalid; Mr.
Locher indicated this would be correct. There was some discussion as to
whether action was necessary based on the section reading, "shall be
void and revert tothe original zoning" and the section stating special use
permits must be treated asministratively as if they were a rezoni; however,
this was felt to be essentially for special use permits that were already
in existance. Mr. Locher felt that if the words "special use permit" were
included in Section 6.21, it would be very clear, butthat a court case to
determine the meaning would be expensive.
The opinions expressed in Mr. Locher's letter were further discussed as to
the probable outcome of a court case. Mr. DeNuccio felt that Mr. Pesker's
opinion, out of the four opinions was more inclined to see the chance of
teh special use permit being upheld in court, but that the majority of the
people contacted by Mr. Locher felt that "special use permit" had been in-
tended in section 6.21: therefore, no action was necessary. However, he
felt the Council needed to make a decision that, in effect, special use
III permits were intended in that section. Mr. Benson pointed out that sy the
last meeting Mr. Locher had particularly wanted to contact Mr. Van Housen,
who had stated that the intention was to control particular land usage
and to force developers to proceed with development of the land rather than
to merely sepculate. Mr. Locher felt that the zoning map should be taken
care of, and also felt that the matter could be litigated for years, and
that everyone he had contacted had suggested a compromise. Mr. Van Housen
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in 1973 had suggested duplexes. Mr. McLean asked whether the existance
of the special use permits should be dealt with by a motion; Mr. Locher
agreed. He further asked if the motion should also deal with all other
special use permits since the effective date of Ordinance No. 56; Mr.
Locher indicated it would also have to cover any issued since that date.
Mr. McLean felt that the interpretation of section 6.21 ahould be on
record. Mr. Locher indicated that a public hearing would be necessary
to amend the ordinance for the inclusion of the words "special use permit"
in section 6.21, but for a decision on this particular permit, a public
hearing hearing was not required, as it was a matter of interpretation.
Mrs. Sarner inquired if the rezones and special use permits that were not
in use, those that would be null and void, would require public hearings
on each one of them. Mr. Locher suggested that one hearing be held on
zoning map and notice be sent to all people affected rather than hold-
ing hearings one at a time. Mayor Karth clarified that this applied
only to properties where the zoning was never used. A man in the audience
asked how the particluar ordinance that dealt with zoning is gotten off
the books; Mr. Locher indicated the only way to do so was by amending or
repealing it, and giving notice of that action. Mrs. Sarner noted that
each time there is a rezoning there is an ordinance written pertaining
to that rezoning. Mayor Karth felt that all that was at issue was
special use permits, which were null and void under section 6.21 after
3 years; as far as the interpretation of this, a public hearing could be
set. However, it was brought up by Mr. Schneider that no special hear-
ing would be required for this interpretation. Mr. McLean moved "that
the Council resolve to accept an interpretation of section 6.21 that will
include both rezone and special use permits as originally intended by
those parties involved in drafting this ordinance. Also, this definition
is effective with the original date of Ordinance No. 56 and all parties
affected by this interpretation must be notified at once by the City
so that we can determine the impact on various parties. In order to
make this motion effective for purposes of clarification Mr. McLean also
moved that an amendment to 6.21 be initiated and a public hearing set."
Mr. Schneider seconded the motion. All were in favor, Motion declared
passed.
Mr. Locher, in reference to the special use permits, said they were now
void, but not revoked, that special use permit #27 and all like it,
including rezones, were void. Mayor Karth felt the next step would be
to get a list of all special use permits that fall in the category. Mrs.
Sarner will research this and have the list ready by the last Council
meeting in September. Mr. Locher will draft the amendment to the ord=
inance. The Public hearing was set for the first meeting in October.
Mr. Locher asked if the Council would consider changing section 5.02E to
comply with State law; it now required that within 350 feet of any
parcel 5 acres or more in area, notification shall be by registered mail;
The State statute did not require registered mail, which was expensive.
Mr. Schneider moved to have Mr. Locher come up with recommended changes
to both sections referred to. Mr. Karth seconded the motion. All were
in favor. Motion declared passed. Mr. Locher will these ready by the
first meeting in September.
Mr. Gourley asked about the situation in reference to special use permits
where the use was in existance, but the parties had never complied fully
with the conditions set forth on the permit. Mr. McLean said that be-
cause of limited manpower, these had not been pursue on a regular basis
unless there was a complaint. Mr. Gourley asked if he understood cor-
rectly that the Council would initiate a program of reviewing all special
use permits on an annual basis. Mayor Karth inidcated this would become
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feasible once there was a City Administrator, and Mr. McLean said the
Council would be initiating a procedure to review all special use permits.
Mrs. Sarner noted that when special use permits are issued through the
year, they should all have acommon expiration date, rather than running
for a year from the date they are issued. Mrs. Sarner will be compiling
a complete list of all special use permits issued, as well as those
affected by the interpretation of the ordinance.
The question of the proposed use of outlots H and K and the opposition to
the proposed use was considered. Mr. Locher felt there should be a com-
promise between the developer and the 'residents, and Mr. Schneider felt
there should be some alternative plans offered by the developer. Mr. Talle,
representing the developer, said they had not come prepared to petition
for a rezoning or to 'institute new plans for development for that area,
and had understood the purpose of this meeting was for an interpretation
of the ordinance. Mayor Karth noted there was an action which had been
presented to the Planning adn Zoning Commission by the developer for a
resoning to R -5; the : &Z motion was a tie vote, and it was now up to the
Council to either send it back or go on with the public hearing. The
meeting to work out a compromise and the subsequest interpretation of the
ordinance had only been inbetween measures. Mr. McLean felt that if the
developer and the homeowners were genuinely interested in looking at
alternatives, the Council should examine that, and if not, go on with the
public hearing. Mr. Schneider felt it was a question of rezoning, and
whether it fell in with the overall pattern of rezoning for the City.
Mayor Karth indicated that the Council had asked the developer to plat
for his rezoning, and the rezoning and the replatting hearing could be
held at the same time. Mr. Schneider raised the question as to whether
this was the proper procedure.
Mr. DeNuccio raised the question of Mr. McLean's motion, made several
meetings ago, the intent of which was to hold off on any major rezoning
or any major changes until the Comprehensive Plan was put together. He
proposed that this matter would be a substantial undertaking and should
not be handled until the Comprehensive Plan was done. Mayor Karth said
that once an application was made, action one way or the other must be
taken, and action had been started on this before Mr. McLean's motion was
made.Mr. DeNuccio felt taht the second action on this development was
separate from the first, and had been initiated after Mr. McLean's
Resolution. It was noted that the Council had 60 days to take action
after referral by the Planning Commission, which could consist of approval,
denial, or reference back to the Planning adn Zoning Commission. Mr.
Schneider felt there was no need to reconsider, and suggested the two
parties get together ?on this, which had not yet been done. Mayor Karth
said that if a public hearing were held on this and the application denied,
the developer would have to wait a year to make another application. A
man in the audience noted that there had already been a public hearing on
this, but it had been held up by a technicality and the vote had not been
valid; Mr. DeNuccioo felt the public hearing had been valid despite the
problems with the vote. There was further discussion on this point, and
Mr. DeNuccio felt the matter should be resolved at this meeting; Mayor
Karth indicated it could not be resolved without a public hearing. A man
in the audience extended to the developer and /or his, agents an invitation
to meet with the residents in the area involved so that there could be a
clear understanding of what was intended, the purposes, and the rationale
behind it. Mayor Karth indicated the Council would be more than willing
to allow the meeting to be held in the Municipal Building, as a common
meeting ground. Mr. Kulaszewicz moved that the public hearing be held on
September 12, at 8:00 p.m. Mr. McLean seconded the motion. All were in
favor. Motion declared passed. This will be published. The homeowners
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and the developer were again asked if they wanted to meet.
In reference to the City Administrator, Mr. Schneider indicated that
Mr. Hodge was mailing the resumes by the following Firday, and a date
for interviews should be set. The interviews would be half -an -hour
long with a 15- minute break. Mr. Schneider moved to set September 6,
1979 as the date for the interviewing. Mr. McLean seconded the motion.
All were in favor. Motion declared passed.
Mr. Locher checked with the Council on a problem with the redrafting
of the Ordinance in regard to dogs.
Mr. Schneider moved to adjourn at 9:10 P.M. Mr. Kulaszewicz seconded
the motion. All were in favor. Motion declared passed.
These minutes were considered and approved at a regular Council
meeting held on September 10, 1979.
Edna L. Sarner, Clerk- Treasurer