HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/24/1972 Council Minutes1
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The Clerk was asked to get the specs for a new police car from the County.
Mr. Bohjanen requested the Clerk to send "Thank you" letters to the Boy Scouts and
the Civil defense for delivering the flyers on the Open Space Meeting and Voter
Registration. Mr. Zelinka moved to do so. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Motion
carried.
Under old business the budget was discussed. Mr. Bohjanen read the following as
the proposed budget for 1973:
General Funds
Civil Defense
Fire Protection
Parks & Playgrounds
Roads & Bridges
Debt. #I
81,225.00
2,000.00
8,660.00
7,901.00
88,500.00
16,400.00
to be levied
to be levied
to be levied
to be levied
2,994.00
8,660.00
78,500.00
16,400.00
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Mr. Zelinka moved to certify the budget to the County Auditors as presented.
Seconded by Mr. Marier. Motion Carried.
A letter from the Metro Counci Iwas read informing the Council that the County
of Anoka has applied for Federal funds to develop the park in Lino Lakes. They
are now talking about 2500 acres of land. Mr. Marier moved to have the Clerk
write a letter to the Metro Council informing them that we are still holding
meetings and so far have not reached an agreement. The Village Council has
rejected the County's proposal on that portion affecting the Village of Lino Lakes.
Thte Council also rejects the Metro Park Board's proposal. We are presently
working on our own plans and feel since this plan directly affects our Village
that our input should have presendence. Seconded by Mr. Zelinka. Motion carried.
Mrs. Sarrner read a letter that Mr. Bohjanen had received rom the Anoka Library asking
for time at one Council meeting to explain their need for a place to house the Anoka
County Library extension that has been housed in the Centennial Senior High School.
The Council agreed to invite Mr. Young to appear at the October 24th meeting. The
Clerk was instructed to write a letter inviting Mr. Young to appear at that time.
The requisitions, 144 thru 148 were approved. Holding #149 for clairification.
Mr. Marier moved to accept the bills #4766 through #4770 and pay as presented.
Seconded by Mr. Zelinka. Carried.
In a discussion on the road bills it was decided to contact Mr. Schifsky on the
Ware Road problem and ask for a reduction since there would be no seal coat and
no rock.
Mr. Jaworski moved to adjorun at 10:00 P. M. Seconded by Mr. Zelinka. Aye.
Minutes approved at the October 24, 1972 meeting,' %'��
Clerk-Treasurer
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The special assessment hearing for U. S. Lakes Development Company was called to
order at 7:20 P. M. by Mayor Bohjanen. Trustees present; Cardinal, Marier, and
Zelinka. Absent: Jaworski. U. S. Lakes was represented by Mr. Dielentheis and Mr.
Busch. Mr. Marier asked the clerk to read the recommendations from the P &Z Board.
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They read as follows:
1. Both applications be revised to provide for R 1 zoning on all lands
covered in the two applications.
2. Delete all open space or park proposals form the two applications.
3. The platting be revised to tuilize those areas that were designated
as open space.
4. Revise East Shadow Lake Drive to suggested layout provided by U. S. Lakes.
5. The development and sale of lots be restricted to 75 -80% of the presently
serviced areas before proceeding to platted areas requiring extension of
services.
Mr. Kelling moved secondly that the P &Z Board recommend to the Council that they
develop an open space or park proposal that will also provide public access to
Reshnau Lake and that this proposal be presented to U. S. Lakes. After negotations,
U. S. Lakes will provide lands in their development to support this proposal in
a quanity related to their 10% requirement under our Ordinance.
Mr. Bohjanen asked how many points of this proposal could U. S. Lakes agree to.
Mr. Busch answered that points 1, 4, and 5 were compatible with the company. The
Company felt that points 2 and 3 should not be followed but that they would abide
by the Council's ruling.
Mr. Bohjanen asked the Council members for their feeling on these points.
Mr. Marier explained that point 2 was for the protection of both the Village and
the residents. They felt that the open space would create a maintance problem and
an expense that the Village could not absorb and that it would create a traffic
nuisance and a parking problem for the residents. On point #3, the P & Z Board
felt that if this area was not to be used as open space then it should be replatted
into the overall plan.
Mr. Cardinal asked about the area designated as open space or the buffer zone.
Mr. Marier explained the areas using the map on display.
Mr. Bohjanen asked Mr. McLean , P &Z Board Chairman, about the reasoning behing the
recommendations of the Board.
Mr. McLean replied that Mr. Marier had covered all areas. The intent of moving
the park was to eliminate the traffic through a residential area.
Mr. Bohjanen then asked for remarks from the people of the area who were present.
Mr. Gotwald arrived.
Mr. Bohjanen asked Mr. Gotwald if he had anytning to add to this report. Mr. Gotwald
said, No., that his report was the same as before. Basically the area was the same
and there wouldn't be any change in his report.
Mr. Bohjanen said that the concern of the Council was to solve the problem in the
best possible manner and as s -on as possible in order to have the special assessments
certified to the County Auditor's office in time to put on next year's tax rolls.
Mr. Marier asked the Clerk to read both the Planner's and the Engineer's reports.
Mr. Locher arrived.
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Mr. Nelson asked if his understanding that they were recommending the deletion of the
buffer zone was correct.
Mr. Zelinka replied, Yes, that was the recommendation form the P & Z board.
Mr. Nelson thenasked if there was any objections to having the buffer zone
maintanied by the developer.
Mr. Bohjanen replied that the P &Z Board's thoughts on this was that there would be
extensive cost for the upkeep and also for the Policing of the area. Traffic in that
area could create quite a problem for both the residents and our Police.
Mr. Nelson then suggested that this zone be left on the plat, planted in trees and
shrubs and let go back to nature. This would afford some privacy to homes on either
side of the buffer zone.
Mr. Gotwald said it was possible to leave this just as a green area and let it grow
up and return to its original state. It would depend on the type of soil in the
area.
Mr. Marier said that the P &Z Board was concerned that this would become a refuse
collecting area and the Village would have The problem of policing it. They had
thought of turning it over to the people of the area but would run into too many
legal problems as all the deeds would have to be changed. Also, the use of this
area by the public could create a traffic hazard to the residents of the area. The
Board also wondered if this green area would enhance the Park system for the entire
Village.
Mrs. Lombardi said that no one really wanted this buffer zone even though it sounded
better than having houses there. She felt that since originally there was a golf
course hole that would be maintained, that the variances should be refused and the
building continue as originally planned.
Mr. Borovansky said he was willing to wait 5 years for the developer to complete
the original plans in order to have the things that were expected when he bought
in the area.
Mr. Busch said the minutes show fully the compan's presentation. The Townhouses in
the area are non non - conforming due to a minimum square footage Ordinance passed by
the Village this last summer. It is not feasiable for the Company to adjust to meet
the code. The Company believes this is a proper proposal. They agree with Points
1, 4, and 5, and are willing to go along with points 2 and 3 although they do not
agree with the recommendations. If the desire of the Village Council is to leave
the buffer zone grow into a dense area, then this is what they will do.
Mr. Nelson asked about the people who had bought golf course lots.
Mr. Busch said this is a question between the buyer and the company and should not
be answered at a meeting such as this. The Company is willing to sit down with these
people and discuss their differences. Mr. Busch said that the Company had talked
with many people in the area and the majority of them do not feel as the people here
tonight do. With the platting of Lakes #3, the area would have a less dense
population.
Mrs. Lombardi felt that the views expressed here were the views of mots of the
residents. She would like to know if the water and sewer lines were put in to
conform to the original plans, why is now more feasible to re -plat? Who made a
mistake along the line?
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Mr. Busch replied that the initial plans for sewer and water were in 1969. Six
months later there was a feas i ab i I i ty study. These plans were for servicing the
entire area. Mr. Busch then reviewed the history of the sewer interceptor. He
said at the present time there is not enough single family dwellings in the area
to stimulate an interest in multiple homes.
Mrs. Borovansky asked what kind of assurance they had that these new homes will sell.
The ones in the present plat are not selling now, how do they expect to sell the new
ones.
Mr. Busch assured her that the company has a tremendous investment in that area,
about 2 million., and Mr . Jandric i snot about to let that kind of an investment
go down the drain. Also, he will not let the area move forward without proper
guidance. They cannot put up model homes until the assessment is set and there is
a 90 day lapse between permit application and completion of model homes thus putting
their opening off until some time in February. No homes can be sold in the area
until these models are completed.
Someone from the audience asked Mr. Zelinka if the Council would go along with the
shortening of the back 9 on the golf course.
Mr. Zelinka asked Mr. Busch just how much they were shortening the back 9.
Mr. Busch said that holes 14,15 and 16 were readjusted and that the three holes were
split into 4 holes. At the present the front 9 holes are of championship length but
it has been used very little. There has been no advertising or publicity for the area.
It is planned by the company that when the area grows and the need for a championship
length on the back nine becomes apparent, then the course will be expanded the east
of the present platted area. There is no need to do this at the present time since
the club house and other buildings are not even started.
Mr. Bohjanen questioned Mr. Busch; Is their intent to have more home in order to
stabilize the assessments and to proceed with the total package.
Mr. Busch said, Yes, they need this assessment figure in order to make things go.
Mr. Zelinka asked if the land designated as the park area could be used as part of
the lots already platted and not as extra lots/ He noted that some of the lots would
end up extra large and some would be smaller.
Mr. McLean wondered if the land could be left as open space and maintained by U. S.
Lakes as a part of the golf course maintenance.
Mr. Marier asked about the value of the extra depth of the lots. Mrs. Sarner replied
that the extra depth would make some difference in the assessment, but the lots in that
area are assessed per front foot. Mr. Borovansky asked if his lot on the §olf course
would be more valuable than a lot with extra depth? Mrs. Sarner said, No, not
necessarily, that he would not be assessed for the golf course since he didn't own the
golf course and would not pay taxes on it. Mrs. Borovansky asked about the amenities
of being on a golf course. Mrs. Sarner explained that amenities cannot be assessed
on an individual basis, they are reconized in the overall assessment, but that there
are people who wouldn't own a golf course lot.
Someone from the audience said if they couldn't have a golf course, then he would
prefer the buffer zone to the propect of houses in back of his lot.
Mr. Bohjanen asked Mr. Bush if it was possible to work out a plan with the developer
whereby they would maintain the buffer zone as part of the golf course.
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Mr. Busch said that is is impractible for the company to maintain public lands. It
III could be done for a definite period of time but not for an indefinite period. There
could be legal problems encountered.
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Mr. Marier wondered if the area could not be left as a buffer zone as planned and
leave the maintenance to the residents.
Mr. Zelinka felt that non - compliance by some owners would make this unadvisable. He
wondered if the Council and the Developer could not come to some agreement such as
the Company set up the area, plant and maintain for $1.00 per year for a period of
5 years.
Mr. Marier then suggested leaving the buffer zone as is and deleting the park area by
the lake and the one in the lower right of the plat. He also reminded the people
that this is a preliminary plat and not the final.
Mr. Zelinka asked Mr. Busch what shape the Park around the Marina would take.
Mr. Busch said the Marina was planned for the North end of the Lake and the land now
proposed as a public park is on the West side of the lake near the creek. The
Company owns the land on either side of the creek and a certain number of acres can
be set aside if this is the wish of the Council. They haven't really planned the
park because of the delay in development on the west side of the lake. They would
prefer to wait and see how the park will fit into the overall picture of the
development.
It was then suggested that perhaps the area could become a common area and be
maintained by the residents. Mr. Borovansky asked if this meant there would be a
leavy against the ome owners in the area?
Mr. Bohjanen replied, Yes, some sort of a Home Owners Association.
Mr. Bororvansky said he felt that this was no sort of compensation for the loss of
the golf course behind his property.
Mr. Gotwald said he had antoher meeting that he was already 30 minutes late for and
if there were no more questions of him, he would like to leave. Mr. Gotwald left.
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Mr. Kelling then said that this concept of letting the area go back to nature was one
that the P &Z had not discussed. It would not solve the problem of the golf course but
to leave the area as a buffer zone and let go back to nature would certainly solve the
maintenance problem.
Mr. Busch said the idea is not contrary to U. S. Lakes and is it a workable plan.
Mr. Zelinka asked if this area would be dedicated to the Village?
Mr. Busch said Yes, if that was the desire of the Council.
Mr. Bohjanen reviewed the discussion as to mean that the buffer zone is to be left as
III platted with the exception of the two blocked park areas, plant and let return to nature.
This area would be dedicated to the Village but would not be considered as part of the
overall park plan. He then asked for comments from the audience. There was no response.
Mr. Marier said there is much conterversy on this plan and he would move to go back to
the original plan with the golf course. Mr. Locher asked if this meant he would
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include the original assessments? Mr. Marier said Yes. The motion died for lack of
a sec ond.
Mr. Zelinka moved to accept the P &Z recommendations to the Council, with the
following stipulations:
Modify #1 to include the lots by the lake and the lower right by replatting
those areas into RI.
Delete #2 and #3, utilize those blocked areas now designated as parks, Leave #4
and #5 as is.
Add #6, Village accept open space on Lakes Plant #3, but this is not to be
included as part of park development to be dedicated on a percentage basis, also
an indication from U. S. Lakes that they will meet the Council to determine the Park
area of the unplatted area for the mutual benefit of the Village as well as the
residents involved.
Mr. Cardinal seconded. Motion carried with Mr. Marier voting No.
Mr. Busch said they have preliminary figures on the revised assessment from Suburban
Engineering.
Mr. Zelinka moved to have Suburban Engineering and Mr. Gotwald draft the necessary
figures. Mr. Cardinal seconded. Motion carried.
Mr. Cardinal moved to adjourn the special meeting. Mr. Marier seconded. Aye.
Minutes approved at November 13, 1972 meeting ,%
Clerk- Treasurer
There as a 10 minute break and the Council reconvened for the regular meeting of
the Lino Lakes Village Council. The meeting was called to order by Mayor Bohjanen
on October 24, 1972, at 9:00 P. M. Trustees present: Cardinal, Marier, Zelinka.
Absent: Jaworski. Attorney Locher was also present.
Mr. Zelinka moved to accept the minutes of the October 10, 1972, meeting as written.
Mr. Bohjanen seconded. Motion carried with Mr. Cardinal abstaining.
The Clerk reported:
I. She had received the minutes from the Rice Creek Watershed and there was copie
for all members
2. Received one $15.00 refund from Unity Hospital. Mr. Ross had not taken the
first aid course.
3. Received $125.00 in court fines.
4. The $150,000.00 Treasury Bills had matured and on the advice of the ATtorney
had reinvested the money. The cost was $146,146.21 with interest of$$,853.79
1 credited to our accouht,s
5. Received an answer from the St. Paul Water Department requesting a meeting with
our Park Board Chairman to discuss the Baldwin Lake Property.
6. Received notice to appear at the Anoka Auditor's Office on Friday, October 27
1972, to secure ballots for the coming election.
7. REceived a letter from Mr. RIG. Brennan of the State Highway Department in the
petition has been forwarded to the District Engineer. Mr. W. C. Merritt and
stated that we should hear from him soon.
8. A letter from the Hartford Insurance refusing to pay the damage claim on the
pump house. Mr. Locher said he had a statement from Loosen Plumbing that they
will absorb the cost.
9. Mr. Babb of Sun Oil Company had called the office to say that they had definite